Making Disciples

[Marvelloustime]

too many folks are starting preach THEIR NAME and THEM CRUCIFIED .
Rather than CHRIST and HIM CRUCIFIED .
Too many be trying to teach certain concepts that Christ and later the apostels taught
BUT DO SO under the guise it aint necessary to First BELIEVE ON SAID JESUS THE CHRIST .
That amounts to , Going about to seek ones own righteousness APART from faith . AND that didnt bode
too well for the jews now did it . NOR will it for any other .
ITS an absolute dire NEED that we KEEP the DIRE REMINDER about HOW DIRE IT TRULY IS for folks
to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST and all things HE taught , as well as the apostels
as well as all biblical inspired words .
TOO MANY are now falling for a ruse my friend .
And though its often taught differently
THEY ALL have one thing in common . OH YOU DONT HAVE TO BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
Sounds like the DEVIL has many trapped in a BIG OL LIE .
They rejected the love of the truth whereby they could have been saved , THUS a strong delusion
to believe a lie ..............
AND I SEE that delusion ALL OVER this earth and within a lot of even christendom now
OH its getting sold as love and as loving and as though its of GOD and THE SPIRIT .
BUT THE FATHER TESTIED OF and TESTIFIES OF THE SON , not some beleive as thou wilt but dont forget to love your neighbor stuff .
THE SPIRIT itself , TESTIFIES OF JESUS THE CHRIST .
And he who recieves not , believes not , the testimony that GOD gave of HIS SON
CALLETH GOD A LIAR . Not looking good these days my friend .
ALL liars shall have their part in the lake of fire
AND IF ONE IS CALLING GOD A LIAR , Who you think is the liar , NOT GOD , ITS THEM .
DENYING JESUS THE CHRIST IS A VERY SERIOUS OFFENCE and it is an offence that DAMNS the soul to perditon .
YET i see a lot trying to make a way around THE FACT ONE MUST BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
But do you really THINK GOD WOULD DO THAT
OR THE SPIRIT WOULD DO THAT .

Or is it he who desires to be AS GOD who is working this lie
unto the churches and the world , in order to have them all damned along with it . OH ITS SATAN all right .

 

[Marvelloustime]

 

[Marvelloustime]

You and others here are in a trap already. A two-dimensional religious trap that misuses the bible and misquotes the Lord and His apostles...to create a scheme that is based on a lie. You deny one verse to try supporting another...which you have misunderstood. And this happens because your starting point is your own self-justification...not the truth. Whatever you feel doesn't give you an instant religious self-gratification...you reject. So then you can't be instructed. You can only rail at whatever is reducing you from your own lofty ideas about yourself. No humility...no fear of the Lord. And you will say that these are just words I have cleverly taken from the bible that have SOME truth to them. But you are so far off the mark that the very distant sound of the truth has no effect on your inflated religious ego.

Instead of grandstanding and posturing...why not actually use that mind of yours for something other than self-justification. Engage the text. Engage the words from God.

You troll my threads to muddy the water and to get more attention for yourself. And other pretenders will respond...as they have been conditioned to do by the outer man ego. But all you do is further expose your dire need to be crucified and liberated from the worse condition you find yourself in.

Learn to be honest. Learn humility. Learn righteousness. Learn to read. Learn about grace. Learn to fear the Lord.

You have A LOT to learn. So get at it. I'm here to help you out of the mud when you are ready. And that goes for other wallowers here as well. :)

@amigo de christo Isn’t it funny how they always accuse others of what it is they are actually doing themselves.

 

[Lizbeth]

I'm dealing with unbelief mainly. How did Jesus treat those who thought they could see but were blind? It one thing to sit in a boat and discuss things, but quite another when the boat is tipped so far over to one side that there is no place to sit.

In this you have rightly spoken. You're right that you're dealing with unbelief and blindness as to what God has said and there is no place to sit and discuss things with you here.

 

[amigo de christo]

In this you have rightly spoken. You're right that you're dealing with unbelief and blindness as to what God has said and there is no place to sit and discuss things with you here.

They often accuse us of doing exactly what it is they be doing .
Epi wrote , he is dealing with unbelief and blindness as to what GOD has said
The last time i checked GOD testified on HIS SON , not on some other love as thou wilt , believe as thou wilt
just be sure and pick up ya cross .
You see it is epi who teaches UNBELIEF , in the fact HE do as he do
and though he teaches concepts about what JESUS said , HE SURE wont repent
of his gospel , he preaches unbelief . Because JESUS preached on the dire NEED to BELIEVE ON HIM
as well as doing good works and picking up your cross . EPI wont touch the part that says YE MUST FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS the CHRIST .
But its us who supposedly walk in unbelief of what GOD has said .
NO mam , ITS EPI himself . and all the while he uses a blanket statement
to make all of us who wont heed him but rather keep reminding of the dire need to FIRST BELEIVE On JESUS THE CHRIST ,
seem as though we are of that hyper grace crowd , WHO will say things like you must believe
but they WONT FOLLOW or do they beleive THE THINGS JESUS said .
ITS KINDA like joseph smith . For example the man said certain truths about the condition of the said churches
of his own day , BUT HE LED THEM ONLY INTO GREATER DARKNESS himself .
SO too does epi .
Because he can literally rip the false actions of the hyper grace folks to shreds , AS DO I MYSELF
but then , THEN WHO DOES HE POINT TOO . man , to us , that we can do this without havin to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
THUS he aint helping even the hypergrace ones . Its like the man cannot do both .
BOTH . but rather just leads onwards into greater darkness .
GOTTA put HORSE FIRST , but epi puts epi before the cart and the horse and is trying to teach us
HOW TO DO the same .
whereas we say BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST , and HE SHALL BE YOUR GUIDE
HE WILL WORK IN YOU the things pleasingto GOD .
THROUGH OUR FAITH IN HIM and BY HIS POWER WE CAN PICK UP our cross and be crucified . BY HIM
not by us , not by our own works apart from faith , BUT BY OUR WORKS PRODUCED
from THE SPIRIT of HE UPON WHOM WE BELEIVE , that BE JESUS THE CHRIST .
EPI cannot see this at all . Its epi and him crucified . only as you can see
epi is not crucified at all . He is just doing as to what HE thinks he can do to do as he needs to do .
RATHER than submittting TO HE WHO can . he submits himself to his own self , AND BELIEVE YOU ME , SELF CANNOT .
What man cannot attain , GOD CAN ATTAIN . IN JESUS THE CHRIST can we do as we ought to do .
But teaching and hammering folks who do say YE MUST BELIEVE on JESUS the CHRIST
sounds a whole lot like the oppositoin even paul and others faced . FOR THEIR PREACHING ON THE DIRE
NEED TO BELIEVE . epi has no idea who is he against . He thinks we the bad seed , we the ones
full of ego and self righteousness . ONLY the last time i checked
i aint teaching anyone they can DO BY SELF , but rather BELEIVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
who will give the ability and desire TO DO . epi has it all wrong sister . ALL WRONG

 

[amigo de christo]

i have long warned out against the hyper grace ,
as even does epi .
But epi wont remind or tell anyone of the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
Thus the last error be as bad if not worse than even the deadly error within the hyper grace camp .
Cause niether one actually BELIEVES JESUS . the hyper ones might claim to believe IN JESUS the CHRIST
but their works and words prove its lip only , but in name only .
Epi can expose this too , BUT THEN HE makes a super deadly error
by then attacking those who say YE MUST BELIEVE . Not looking good at all .
Putting us all into one camp with one blanket statement . that is what he do .
He puts me into the hypergrace camp as well as others
ALL because we say YE MUST FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
hey epi , You need to learn to preach THE whole rightly divided message pardner
Not some inclusively learned twisted doctrine
by which you think you can help this people .
The error of epi is every bit as wicked as is the very error of the hyper grace lip only folks
in fact ITS WORSE . because JESUS is not even being preached at all . NOT THE NEED TO BELIEVE ON HIM .
NOW that message of YE MUST BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
was CENTER FOCUS of the early church , as they too reminded and taught the church about being crucfied and etc .
Any one sided message that omits either part , IS bad news .
GOTTA do as the original ones did , as JESUS HIMSELF DID .
and YES you bet JESUS did a lot of good works , AND YOU can bet he sure did preach about the
DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON HIM .
As well as he rebuked those who said LORD LORD yet did not do the things which HE commanded .
HERE are and is the commandemnts that sums up and includes all things inspired of GOD .
TO LOVE THE LORD GOD WITH ALL THY HEART SOUL STRENGTH and MIND
and to love your neighbor as yourself .
and now a reminder TO PROVE who has the LOVE OF GOD and who does not .
YE have NOT THE LOVE OF GOD IN YOU , for HE whom GOD did send , YOU BELIEVE NOT .
so there IT IS . IF one beleives not on JESUS THE CHRIST
if one teaches there is no need to believe on HIM . well GUESS WHO THEY JUST CALLED A LIAR .
GOD . He who believes not on the SON of GOD does not have eternal life
but the wrath of GOD abides on HIM . OH YEAH , WE NEED to get real busy preaching JESUS CHRIST and HIM CRUCIFIED again .

 

[Lizbeth]

They often accuse us of doing exactly what it is they be doing .
Epi wrote , he is dealing with unbelief and blindness as to what GOD has said
The last time i checked GOD testified on HIS SON , not on some other love as thou wilt , believe as thou wilt
just be sure and pick up ya cross .
You see it is epi who teaches UNBELIEF , in the fact HE do as he do
and though he teaches concepts about what JESUS said , HE SURE wont repent
of his gospel , he preaches unbelief . Because JESUS preached on the dire NEED to BELIEVE ON HIM
as well as doing good works and picking up your cross . EPI wont touch the part that says YE MUST FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS the CHRIST .
But its us who supposedly walk in unbelief of what GOD has said .
NO mam , ITS EPI himself . and all the while he uses a blanket statement
to make all of us who wont heed him but rather keep reminding of the dire need to FIRST BELEIVE On JESUS THE CHRIST ,
seem as though we are of that hyper grace crowd , WHO will say things like you must believe
but they WONT FOLLOW or do they beleive THE THINGS JESUS said .
ITS KINDA like joseph smith . For example the man said certain truths about the condition of the said churches
of his own day , BUT HE LED THEM ONLY INTO GREATER DARKNESS himself .
SO too does epi .
Because he can literally rip the false actions of the hyper grace folks to shreds , AS DO I MYSELF
but then , THEN WHO DOES HE POINT TOO . man , to us , that we can do this without havin to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
THUS he aint helping even the hypergrace ones . Its like the man cannot do both .
BOTH . but rather just leads onwards into greater darkness .
GOTTA put HORSE FIRST , but epi puts epi before the cart and the horse and is trying to teach us
HOW TO DO the same .
whereas we say BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST , and HE SHALL BE YOUR GUIDE
HE WILL WORK IN YOU the things pleasingto GOD .
THROUGH OUR FAITH IN HIM and BY HIS POWER WE CAN PICK UP our cross and be crucified . BY HIM
not by us , not by our own works apart from faith , BUT BY OUR WORKS PRODUCED
from THE SPIRIT of HE UPON WHOM WE BELEIVE , that BE JESUS THE CHRIST .
EPI cannot see this at all . Its epi and him crucified . only as you can see
epi is not crucified at all . He is just doing as to what HE thinks he can do to do as he needs to do .
RATHER than submittting TO HE WHO can . he submits himself to his own self , AND BELIEVE YOU ME , SELF CANNOT .
What man cannot attain , GOD CAN ATTAIN . IN JESUS THE CHRIST can we do as we ought to do .
But teaching and hammering folks who do say YE MUST BELIEVE on JESUS the CHRIST
sounds a whole lot like the oppositoin even paul and others faced . FOR THEIR PREACHING ON THE DIRE
NEED TO BELIEVE . epi has no idea who is he against . He thinks we the bad seed , we the ones
full of ego and self righteousness . ONLY the last time i checked
i aint teaching anyone they can DO BY SELF , but rather BELEIVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
who will give the ability and desire TO DO . epi has it all wrong sister . ALL WRONG

Amen. The scriptures don't teach that man can be saved by his own righteousness.........they teach the exact opposite. The Law was even given for one thing to teach that very lesson and tutor Israel as to their and everyone's need for the Messiah........man's righteousness always falls short.....of the GLORY....and if ye have not the Son ye have not the Father either. There is only one sacrifice and pure fire that is meet for heaven/glory and that is heaven's sacrifice and fire, not of our own. Anything that is of man's own is strange fire. And the lesson of scripture teaching the consequence of offering strange fire.....is death, not Life.

I agree there is a need to "come up higher" and be in the Spirit and fully consecrated....but can't drink from a well that unfortunately denies so much fundamental truth that it is another gospel altogether.

 

[Episkopos]

I agree there is a need to "come up higher" and be in the Spirit and fully consecrated....but can't drink from a well that unfortunately denies so much fundamental truth that it is another gospel altogether.

The "come up higher" is in the higher walk of the Spirit that Paul testifies of. When we walk at that level of consecration THEN we can experience what Paul speaks of....to be seated in heavenly places in Christ. No naming and claiming is permitted. IF we walk as Jesus walked THEN we can claim to be abiding in Him.

The problem with a dogmatic form of Christianity is that people will read the bible that speaks of the higher walk and claim to be walking there...to see... whereas they are still yet walking as carnal people. God has a heavy judgment against these. Knowing the terror of the Lord...that protects His holy ways...I warn people. Although most have already gone over to the Pharisaical religious certainty that denies the power of the gospel...and makes it about a scheme based on wordings. Having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof..as it is written.

The thing that many are afraid to lose is actually only pride....the pride to say "I'm saved" ...or some other dogmatic statement based on beliefs.

But God gives grace to the humble. He resists the proud.

 

[Hepzibah]

@Episkopos I have 'liked' that post as it is truth, but as Lizbeth says, you have poisoned the well with untruths.

 

[Episkopos]

If someones says that they are a follower of Christ...fine...people can follow Christ from any number of distances. But if someone says that they abide in Christ, then they will be judged by a much harder standard. What we say is important. We will either be justified or condemned by our words.

What are we communicating with our words? The truth? Religion? Do we know of what we speak? Or are we following an indoctrination?

A true disciple speaks very carefully...only saying what is actually known through experience. What is the point of saying that Jesus is the answer if one doesn't know the question? Too many name and claim without any truth. The blind claim to see without seeing. The deaf claim to hear without hearing. And the pews are filled with these.

There is no leadership in the religious system to warn people of the coming judgment on God's house. Anyone with any prophetic sense or spiritual discernment is not tolerated in the franchise system of personal ministries.

People will reap as they have sown. And only the Lord's sheep will hear His voice.

 

[Episkopos]

@Episkopos I have 'liked' that post as it is truth, but as Lizbeth says, you have poisoned the well with untruths.

Such as??? What you call "untruths" are deeper truths you have yet to consider. Don't judge from yourself. You still haven't understood the necessity of being crucified in the outer man...or else one can become more puffed up than ever through the experience of the second blessing.

Paul spent more time glorying in the power of the cross that brought him low...than any anointing that lifted him up. Can you hear wisdom?

So then list those untruths you speak of. Refute any of these by using the bible...correctly! ;)

 

[Hepzibah]

Such as??? What you call "untruths" are deeper truths you have yet to consider. Don't judge from yourself. You still haven't understood the necessity of being crucified in the outer man...or else one can become more puffed up than ever through the experience of the second blessing.

Paul spent more time glorying in the power of the cross that brought him low...than any anointing that lifted him up. Can you hear wisdom?

So then list those untruths you speak of. Refute any of these by using the bible...correctly! ;)

I don't want to bother. Others have done it repeatedly. You bring holiness doctrine into discredit by your additional doctrines.

 

[Episkopos]

Another thing that most people get confused about is the exclusivity of the holiness walk in the Spirit....and the universal inclusivity of God's mercy on the poor, the humble, the meek, the lowly...etc. And this comes down to having a 2 dimensional dogmatic view of salvation and even of God Himself. Such bear a false witness.

But God will have mercy on whoever He wills. When we stand in the way of that mercy..we are ourselves condemned. God HATES that people take away the righteousness from the righteous.

Notice both the goodness and severity of God. On the namers and claimers..severity. On the meek...mercy. God gives grace to the humble.

 

[Episkopos]

I don't want to bother. Others have done it repeatedly. You bring holiness doctrine into discredit by your additional doctrines.

More than one dimension you mean?? I think you hate the idea that there are levels to both salvation AND righteousness. You make God to be a black and white dogmatic judge the way religious people are...like yourself.

But God's ways are BOTH mercy and truth. So you do God a disservice by justifying yourself and condemning those on whom God will have mercy. You are standing in the wrong place...judging from yourself.

My warnings can only been seen as a discredit to God by those who are standing in a place that is itself a discredit to God.

Take just one aspect of what you are reviling in the truth I speak...just one. Utilize honesty and reading skills (if not spiritual discernment) to discover what you have yet to learn. Are you fully knowledgeable in Christ? You might think so...but there is a lot more than what you are presently surmising...and that could put you in a place of disservice.

Take a shot...

Need to go shopping now...our youngest daughter is getting married soon. :)

 

[Lizbeth]

Another thing that most people get confused about is the exclusivity of the holiness walk in the Spirit....and the universal inclusivity of God's mercy on the poor, the humble, the meek, the lowly...etc. And this comes down to having a 2 dimensional dogmatic view of salvation and even of God Himself. Such bear a false witness.

But God will have mercy on whoever He wills. When we stand in the way of that mercy..we are ourselves condemned. God HATES that people take away the righteousness from the righteous.

Notice both the goodness and severity of God. On the namers and claimers..severity. On the meek...mercy. God gives grace to the humble.

Yes He has mercy on some of them by not hardening them but granting them repentance and faith in Christ instead. Hmm, wait a minute....that is many of us who you are now beating up with sweeping generalities, and thinking you will not have to answer to God for how you treat HIS flock.

 

[Episkopos]

Yes He has mercy on some of them by not hardening them but granting them repentance and faith in Christ instead. Hmm, wait a minute....that is many of us who you are now beating up with sweeping generalities, and thinking you will not have to answer to God for how you treat HIS flock.

In a two-dimensional world you would have a point. For you it is...believer good, unbeliever bad. But that kind of reasoning comes from the knowledge of good and evil....2 dimensional. The Pharisees had the very same outlook. Good and bad. They of course identifying themselves with the good. Do you identify yourself with the good in your dualistic good/bad judgment? If so...you are a classic Pharisee.

But the truth goes much deeper than that. There is the good/bad distinction... and there is the life/death distinction. The tree of life is a third option. So already we are in three dimensions. Yet, there is another.

How many will understand the 4 dimensional paths we are offered in this life. Obviously the dogmatic believers won't see it. But any true follower of Christ will get it over time, I believe. Just maybe 714 more times going over the same thing will cause a few to back up out of a bad turn into an indoctrination that caused them to go to a dead end.

Just a little honesty and reading skills is all that is required to get the ball rolling. :)

 

[Lizbeth]

In a two-dimensional world you would have a point. For you it is...believer good, unbeliever bad. But that kind of reasoning comes from the knowledge of good and evil....2 dimensional. The Pharisees had the very same outlook. Good and bad. They of course identifying themselves with the good. Do you identify yourself with the good in your dualistic good/bad judgment? If so...you are a classic Pharisee.

But the truth goes much deeper than that. There is the good/bad distinction... and there is the life/death distinction. The tree of life is a third option. So already we are in three dimensions. Yet, there is another.

How many will understand the 4 dimensional paths we are offered in this life. Obviously the dogmatic believers won't see it. But any true follower of Christ will get it over time, I believe. Just maybe 714 more times going over the same thing will cause a few to back up out of a bad turn into an indoctrination that caused them to go to a dead end.

Just a little honesty and reading skills is all that is required to get the ball rolling. :)

I believe that there is no one good but God, Epi. And I identify myself as having no righteousness of my own but being in need of Christ the same as every living soul on the planet.

 

[Episkopos]

I believe that there is no one good but God, Epi.

God is on a level all His own. Good catch!

And I identify myself as having no righteousness of my own but being in need of Christ the same as every living soul on the planet.

But you claim to have God's own righteousness for yourself...based on an introspective bible reading??? Is that from humility? Or that all bible enthusists have that level of righteousness?

A clever mimicking of Paul's words doesn't equal being an apostle or a saint.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

You only see one aspect of the church's fall. On the liberal side the church is moving towards liberalism...permissiveness, compromise and carnality. But what conservatives don't see is even worse. The Pharisees were NOT liberal, they were conservative. And just like so many modern believers, they judged the slack liberal elements (that Jesus went easier on) in a bid to justify themselves. And a conservative cannot see this. They are blind.

The devil has a one-two punch strategy that never fails, except among the true "vetted" disciples who are actually crucified with Christ and no longer have any confidence (or certainty) in the flesh.

My hope is to save a few among the conservatives, as these pose the greatest challenge to the truth of the gospel, resisting God by the strength of a religious ego.

The more certain one becomes on the conservative bent, the more lost one becomes. The more lost one becomes in that bent the more certain he/she becomes...into a downward spiral.

The liberals take love and acceptance too far. But the conservatives take judgment too far. Which did Jesus warn against the most? Judge not lest you be judged. The humble hear the words of the Lord and depart from evil.

It was conservatives that put Jesus on the cross...then...and now. A conservative can only point to a cross that has Jesus on it...not themselves on it. These see no point in sacrificing themselves for others. That would be too liberal.

Of course when a conservative is told the truth about their bent, he/she will claim the person warning them can only be a liberal. As in...if you are not a drug addict then you must be an alcoholic. The carnal mind sees no divine alternative because it doesn't know God.

Conservatives ? in relation to nowadays and 2000 years ago are not on the same page.
What the USA calles Conservative is not what Australia of my era would call Conservative ?

In Australia the major right wing party is called the Liberal Party in fact ! and by that, it ment liberal conservative ? meaning broard conservative values one may say ?
But within that Party were the very wealthy who truly ran the ship ! for they were the power in their own right ! tho they needed or had conservitive values be it how they like ?
If it was not for the conservative values within then the far Right of wealthy would dominate totaly ! so big diffrence ! with in one Party ! They call it a broad church and pride themselves on it ? for such need to be broad, or broader in it's values, so as to win Power in a Nation that valued being Democratic.

In regards the Pharisees they were just like Socialist in fact that were controled by the very wealthy, for they dominated over the people and said No ! you can not have any regard Salvation ! it's forbidden ! so they dominated over the people, that was their Bag in fact ! it's Socialism in fact ! and not freedom of your own, for you were owned in fact, for Christ Jesus had not come yet so as to give one Grace ! so as to manage ones own mind on things and not be a slave to a mans works system ?
So no, the true Conservative Foundations are not based on the Pharasees at all in fact !

Not to mention back before the 1970 here the what one would call the Left were very much founded on Conservative values in fact but during the 70's the Left was becoming undermined by the Socialist in fact and this caused a big Split in the major Left Party in fact. So that the Left became dominated by the Socialist as they won power from within the Party ! Stole it ! The same Dog one may think but it had changed it's Spots ! They claimed not to be Socialist at all for they feered that fact being exposed, for they would of had no hope of winning Power if the people knew that to be a fact ! but then about 1990's they said that they were Socialist !

But many of the Left abandoned ship in the 70's and they did not like the major Right Wing of our Liberal Party because they were to far for the wealthy Mob who are not working class ? so they look down on the working class, even tho one who ownes Farming etc and had in todays millions of dollars tyed up in a Farm but they had to work for their living and were smart enought to know that both major Partys did not serve their intrest truly at all. So they formed the Country Party and then it became the National Party.

National Party was broader than what was the Country Party. But they Partys were Conservative period ! as in no BS ! and it put the Nations intrest first and such was all about going from strength to strength as a Nation and a People with real honest foundations and values, no BS like the far Left or Right play games with 24/7 only in order to undermine all the People under them. for they would never bring the majority up wards truly ! they do not want that ! for they want to dominate over the majority in fact and so they are the Pharisees !
Jesus came to give all as to become Man ! Human ! not a mongrel Dog fed crumbs ? for that is of this world ! But we honner people and strive to empower all upward and onward in the name of Christ Jesus ! for we gladly serve to that ends for everyone.
If it was done to Christ Jesus ends, then we would be living in the Kingdom of God ! and the power of corruption would be under wraps.

So in a nut shell it's Socialism that makes one a dog slave and stupid Godless lost pathetic dupe ! for you are clearly not empowered regarding God in fact under a mans works system !
Socialism says look we will help you all ! for you can not help yourself and do not even try !
The school system is bastardised so as to create dupes, they do not educate truly at all in fact ! for they work only to endoctrinate period !

 

[Episkopos]

Worldly people will never find the balance between Liberalism and Conservatism...unless it is forced upon them. A Christian is to be neither liberal or conservative but rather be spiritual in Christ.