Eat my flesh, drink my blood, discerning the body and blood of Christ.

[Stewardofthemystery]

Jesus said in John 6:54-56

54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.”

Jesus said in John 6:27 27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.”

So what is the flesh and blood of Jesus that we are to eat?


Jesus said in John 6:32-33 “32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
33 For the bread of God “is he”which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.”

Jesus said in
John 6:48 I am that bread of life.

So what is His flesh, and what is this bread of Life?

We are told in 1John 1:1 1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of “the Word of life;”

In John 1:14 we confirm what Jesus’flesh is when we are told that “the Word was “made flesh”

So it is “the words of God”we must consume like spiritual food for our soul.

But what about the blood of Jesus we are told to drink?

The blood of Jesus speaks….

Hebrews 12:24
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, “that speaketh”better things than that of Abel.

The blood of Jesus represents His Testimony….

Matthew 26:28
For this is “my blood”of the “new testament,” which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

This is how the blood of “His testimony”washes us clean…

John 15:3
Now ye are clean through “the word”which I have spoken unto you.”

Ephesians 5:26
That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water “by the word,”

Both water and blood cleanse and testify ….
1 John 5:6
This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

1 John 5:8
And there are three that “bear witness”in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Both water and blood came out of Jesus’ side when pierced.

Consuming the flesh and blood of Jesus is how we truly “commune”with God by “the Spirit.”

Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.


The flesh and blood of Jesus is both the law and the testimony of God, this law and testimony of Jesus Christ is “sealed in us”by the Holy Spirit.

Isaiah 8:16
Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

Isaiah 8:20
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Peace and God bless.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Jesus said in John 6:54-56

54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.”

Jesus said in John 6:27 27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.”

So what is the flesh and blood of Jesus that we are to eat?


Jesus said in John 6:32-33 “32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
33 For the bread of God “is he”which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.”

Jesus said in
John 6:48 I am that bread of life.

So what is His flesh, and what is this bread of Life?

We are told in 1John 1:1 1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of “the Word of life;”

In John 1:14 we confirm what Jesus’flesh is when we are told that “the Word was “made flesh”

So it is “the words of God”we must consume like spiritual food for our soul.

But what about the blood of Jesus we are told to drink?

The blood of Jesus speaks….

Hebrews 12:24
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, “that speaketh”better things than that of Abel.

The blood of Jesus represents His Testimony….

Matthew 26:28
For this is “my blood”of the “new testament,” which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

This is how the blood of “His testimony”washes us clean…

John 15:3
Now ye are clean through “the word”which I have spoken unto you.”

Ephesians 5:26
That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water “by the word,”

Both water and blood cleanse and testify ….
1 John 5:6
This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

1 John 5:8
And there are three that “bear witness”in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Both water and blood came out of Jesus’ side when pierced.

Consuming the flesh and blood of Jesus is how we truly “commune”with God by “the Spirit.”

Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.


The flesh and blood of Jesus is both the law and the testimony of God, this law and testimony of Jesus Christ is “sealed in us”by the Holy Spirit.

Isaiah 8:16
Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

Isaiah 8:20
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Peace and God bless.

1 Corinthians 11:27-30 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. [28] But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. [29] For he that eats and drinks unworthily, eats and drinks damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. [30] For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

Consider the Lord’s Table. With when He stood there and told them they must eat of His flesh and drink of His blood. What is “not discerning the Lord’s body”? (Imo) it is to not rightly dividing the word of truth. What is discerning the Lord’s body? Is it to rightly divide the word of truth? Consider this with the Lord’s table on not discerning the Lord’s body they eat and drink down damnation: one becoming drunk and another going away hungry. —to divide your bread

Isaiah 58:7 Lexicon: "Is it not to divide your bread with the hungry And bring the homeless poor into the house; When you see the naked, to cover him; And not to hide yourself from your own flesh?

Which right before the Lord’s Table:
1 Corinthians 11:23-24 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: [24] And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.


Proverbs 1:2-7 To know wisdom and instruction, to understand words of insight, [3] to receive instruction in wise dealing, in righteousness, justice, and equity; (does His flesh and blood contain the power of instruction …in wise dealing…consider dealing out to the poor, how even though He possessed all things He became poor that many be made rich…wise dealings, rightly dividing in righteousness, Justice, and equity? He distributed to the poor…2 Corinthians 9:9 as it is written: “He scattered abroad, he distributed to the poor, His righteousness endures forever.”) 4] to give prudence to the simple, knowledge and discretion to the youth- [5] Let the wise hear and increase in learning, and the one who understands obtain guidance, [6] to understand a proverb and a saying, the words of the wise and their riddles. [7] The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.

 

[Marymog]

Jesus said in John 6:54-56

54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.”

Jesus said in John 6:27 27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.”

So what is the flesh and blood of Jesus that we are to eat?


Jesus said in John 6:32-33 “32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
33 For the bread of God “is he”which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.”

Jesus said in
John 6:48 I am that bread of life.

So what is His flesh, and what is this bread of Life?

We are told in 1John 1:1 1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of “the Word of life;”

In John 1:14 we confirm what Jesus’flesh is when we are told that “the Word was “made flesh”

So it is “the words of God”we must consume like spiritual food for our soul.

But what about the blood of Jesus we are told to drink?

The blood of Jesus speaks….

Hebrews 12:24
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, “that speaketh”better things than that of Abel.

The blood of Jesus represents His Testimony….

Matthew 26:28
For this is “my blood”of the “new testament,” which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

This is how the blood of “His testimony”washes us clean…

John 15:3
Now ye are clean through “the word”which I have spoken unto you.”

Ephesians 5:26
That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water “by the word,”

Both water and blood cleanse and testify ….
1 John 5:6
This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

1 John 5:8
And there are three that “bear witness”in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Both water and blood came out of Jesus’ side when pierced.

Consuming the flesh and blood of Jesus is how we truly “commune”with God by “the Spirit.”

Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.


The flesh and blood of Jesus is both the law and the testimony of God, this law and testimony of Jesus Christ is “sealed in us”by the Holy Spirit.

Isaiah 8:16
Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

Isaiah 8:20
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Peace and God bless.

Hello,

Who taught you or what denomination teaches that it is “the words of God” we must consume like spiritual food for our soul and that the blood of Jesus represents His Testimony?

Your men teach opposite of what Paul teaches on this matter: Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be answerable for the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Examine yourselves, and only then eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For all who eat and drink without discerning the body, eat and drink judgment against themselves.

Mary

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Hello,

Who taught you or what denomination teaches that it is “the words of God” we must consume like spiritual food for our soul and that the blood of Jesus represents His Testimony?

Your men teach opposite of what Paul teaches on this matter: Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be answerable for the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Examine yourselves, and only then eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For all who eat and drink without discerning the body, eat and drink judgment against themselves.

Mary

I wasn’t taught by men, I was taught by Christ.

 

[Marymog]

I wasn’t taught by men, I was taught by Christ.

Thank you. So you believe that Christ came to YOU and taught YOU that it is “the words of God” we must consume like spiritual food for our soul and that His blood represents His Testimony.

Paul was also taught by Christ. As @VictoryinJesus stated in their post For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: [24] And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. Paul also said Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be answerable for the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Examine yourselves, and only then eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For all who eat and drink without discerning the body, eat and drink judgment against themselves.

A student of the Apostle John (Ignatius of Antioch) agreed with Paul.

Why is Christ teaching you something different than what he taught Paul and Ignatius?

Curious Mary

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Thank you. So you believe that Christ came to YOU and taught YOU that it is “the words of God” we must consume like spiritual food for our soul and that His blood represents His Testimony.

Paul was also taught by Christ. As @VictoryinJesus stated in their post For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: [24] And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. Paul also said Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be answerable for the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Examine yourselves, and only then eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For all who eat and drink without discerning the body, eat and drink judgment against themselves.

A student of the Apostle John (Ignatius of Antioch) agreed with Paul.

Why is Christ teaching you something different than what he taught Paul and Ignatius?

Curious Mary

It is what the eating and drinking of the bread and blood of Christ “symbolizes” that is to be “discerned”by the Spirit.

 

[Taken]

Eat my flesh, drink my blood, discerning the body and blood of Christ.

[QUOTE[ So what is the flesh and blood of Jesus that we are to eat?

[/QUOTE]

The FLESH of Jesus is the TRUE Word of God, God sent forth out of His MOUTH in a body God Prepared in the Likeness as a human man.

The BLOOD of Jesus is the untainted pure BLOOD, God prepared to be Offered and Given to Every man Who accepts Jesus’ pure BLOOD as their GIFT of Forgiveness for having HAD been naturally born AGAINST God.

Together…the FLESH and BLOOD accepted by a human man…”IS” that individual human man, having “RECEIVED” Gods OFFERED “Salvation”….(Christ Jesus).

ONCE a human man Accepts Gods Offering OF God’s Word and Jesus’ Blood (according to Gods WAY)…FOR EVER…the Lord God Almighty WILL be WITH that man….and…
FOR EVER that man WILL be WITH the Lord God Almighty….(ie. OSAS).

Praise and Glory to our Great Lord God Almighty.

God bless you.

Taken

 

[Marymog]

It is what the eating and drinking of the bread and blood of Christ “symbolizes” that is to be “discerned”by the Spirit.

Let me address your theory and then we can get back to your main point.

Jesus said this IS my body/blood. He didn't say it symbolizes my body and blood. You may feel comfortable adding words to Scripture; I don't. Then, about 30 years later, Paul asked the aforementioned rhetorical question: Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? What is your answer to Paul?

Now, back to your main point. You believe that we must consume “the words of God” like spiritual food for our soul and that His blood represents His Testimony. You used a very small portion of Jesus bread of life discourse to back up that claim. Your connection of the two don't make sense. Here is what makes sense. Jesus TOLD us we must eat his body and drink his blood. He then SHOWED us how to do that at the last supper when he held up the bread/wine saying this IS my body/blood. About 30 years later Paul reaffirmed what Jesus told us and showed us to do; eat His body, drink His blood in the form of bread/wine.

In summary Jesus TOLD us what we must do. He then SHOWED us how to do it. He is a great teacher......And what he showed us and told us has NOTHING to do with consuming His word by reading Scripture.

Mary

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Thank you. So you believe that Christ came to YOU and taught YOU that it is “the words of God” we must consume like spiritual food for our soul and that His blood represents His Testimony.

Paul was also taught by Christ. As @VictoryinJesus stated in their post For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: [24] And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. Paul also said Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be answerable for the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Examine yourselves, and only then eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For all who eat and drink without discerning the body, eat and drink judgment against themselves.

A student of the Apostle John (Ignatius of Antioch) agreed with Paul.

Why is Christ teaching you something different than what he taught Paul and Ignatius?

Curious Mary

Mary please read Numbers 5 and put Christ in the center of it. I recommend reading it over and over concerning the law of jealousies. Ask what
Vessel? Numbers 5:17 And the priest shall take holy water(if you had asked, I would give unto you Living Water) in an earthen vessel; and of the dust that is in the floor of the tabernacle the priest shall take, and put it into the water….Matthew 3:13-17 Then comes Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him(put into the water). [14] But John forbid him, saying, I have need to be baptized of You, and come You to me? [15] And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becomes us to fulfill all righteousness. Then he suffered him. [16] And Jesus, when he was baptized(put in the water), went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: [17] And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Who is the woman in
Numbers 5:28 And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.

To me Numbers 5 is key to what Paul taught in
Romans 7:2-4 For the woman which has an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he lives; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed (free) from the law (of jealousies) of her husband. [3] So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. [4] Wherefore, my brethren, you also are become dead to the law (of jealousies) by the body of Christ; that you should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

You may say why or what does any of that have to do with the Lords table or the bread? Or …you must eat of My flesh and drink of My blood. To me it has everything to do with it…starting way back in “the law of jealousies” and what He has freed us from by the Body which He said you must eat and drink of.

 

[APAK]

Jesus said in John 6:54-56

54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.”

Jesus said in John 6:27 27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.”

So what is the flesh and blood of Jesus that we are to eat?


Jesus said in John 6:32-33 “32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
33 For the bread of God “is he”which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.”

Jesus said in
John 6:48 I am that bread of life.

So what is His flesh, and what is this bread of Life?

We are told in 1John 1:1 1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of “the Word of life;”

In John 1:14 we confirm what Jesus’flesh is when we are told that “the Word was “made flesh”

So it is “the words of God”we must consume like spiritual food for our soul.

But what about the blood of Jesus we are told to drink?

The blood of Jesus speaks….

Hebrews 12:24
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, “that speaketh”better things than that of Abel.

The blood of Jesus represents His Testimony….

Matthew 26:28
For this is “my blood”of the “new testament,” which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

This is how the blood of “His testimony”washes us clean…

John 15:3
Now ye are clean through “the word”which I have spoken unto you.”

Ephesians 5:26
That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water “by the word,”

Both water and blood cleanse and testify ….
1 John 5:6
This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

1 John 5:8
And there are three that “bear witness”in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Both water and blood came out of Jesus’ side when pierced.

Consuming the flesh and blood of Jesus is how we truly “commune”with God by “the Spirit.”

Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.


The flesh and blood of Jesus is both the law and the testimony of God, this law and testimony of Jesus Christ is “sealed in us”by the Holy Spirit.

Isaiah 8:16
Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

Isaiah 8:20
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Peace and God bless.

I believe you have wandered off into an unnecessary classroom session with this subject and gone into a more intellectual track rather than a personal spiritual one.

John 6:54-52 simply is referring to a serious personal commitment and life style, living with Christ. His spirit with the Spirit of God feeds us everyday if we are willing to be fed for the rest of our lives.

As you already know, Jesus’ flesh and blood are not meant to be understood literally, but rather as a metaphor for spiritual nourishment and union with Him. Those who partake in Him through faith and obedience will experience eternal life and be raised up at the last day. This passage underscores the importance of believing in Jesus as the Son of God and the source of salvation. We are living this everyday.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Now, back to your main point. You believe that we must consume “the words of God” like spiritual food for our soul and that His blood represents His Testimony. You used a very small portion of Jesus bread of life discourse to back up that claim. Your connection of the two don't make sense. Here is what makes sense. Jesus TOLD us we must eat his body and drink his blood. He then SHOWED us how to do that at the last supper when he held up the bread/wine saying this IS my body/blood. About 30 years later Paul reaffirmed what Jesus told us and showed us to do; eat His body, drink His blood in the form of bread/wine.

In summary Jesus TOLD us what we must do. He then SHOWED us how to do it. He is a great teacher......And what he showed us and told us has NOTHING to do with consuming His word by reading Scripture.

Mary

Jesus taught using parables and similitudes. So Jesus “likened” His body “like” the bread of Life and His Testimony “like” wine/ blood.

If Christ is truly “in” someone then the Word and Testimony of Jesus Christ is also “in” them by the Holy Spirit. This is the Word of Life that if a man eats he shall never hunger and thirst again.

This Living Word and Testimony that dwells in us, sanctifies us and cleanses us. This is how the blood/Testimony of Jesus Christ purges our hearts and minds….

Hebrews 9:11-23

King James Version

​

11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.”

That is how the Living waters and blood of Christ cleanses our hearts and minds.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Let me address your theory and then we can get back to your main point.

Jesus said this IS my body/blood. He didn't say it symbolizes my body and blood. You may feel comfortable adding words to Scripture; I don't. Then, about 30 years later, Paul asked the aforementioned rhetorical question: Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? What is your answer to Paul?

Now, back to your main point. You believe that we must consume “the words of God” like spiritual food for our soul and that His blood represents His Testimony. You used a very small portion of Jesus bread of life discourse to back up that claim. Your connection of the two don't make sense. Here is what makes sense. Jesus TOLD us we must eat his body and drink his blood. He then SHOWED us how to do that at the last supper when he held up the bread/wine saying this IS my body/blood. About 30 years later Paul reaffirmed what Jesus told us and showed us to do; eat His body, drink His blood in the form of bread/wine.

In summary Jesus TOLD us what we must do. He then SHOWED us how to do it. He is a great teacher......And what he showed us and told us has NOTHING to do with consuming His word by reading Scripture.

Mary

Mary…I don’t mean to bombard you with thoughts. Consider why He has no pleasure in animal sacrifices, or repetitive posturing or long speeches and burnt offerings? To me there is a reason He has no pleasure in what is not able to set any free from their high-minded delusions and deceptions.

 

[Jude Thaddeus]

It is what the eating and drinking of the bread and blood of Christ “symbolizes” that is to be “discerned”by the Spirit.

WHERE, in anywhere in all of Scripture, do "symbols" give eternal life?
Chapter and verse(s) please.
Please draw me a picture of a symbol of such infinite power so I can explain it to a 7 year old in terms he can understand.
How does one eat a symbol?
Does any 7 year old have a highly developed gift of discernment to know the difference between The Real Thing and a counterfeit? Do a Coke challenge test???
Why do you think First Holy Communion is, generally, available to 7 year old's children of Catholic parents?
Why do Satanists steal only Catholic consecrated hosts for their diabolical rituals? Maybe because Satan knows the difference between That and a counterfeit???

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

WHERE, in anywhere in all of Scripture, do "symbols" give eternal life?
Chapter and verse(s) please.
Please draw me a picture of a symbol of such infinite power so I can explain it to a 7 year old in terms he can understand.
How does one eat a symbol?
Does any 7 year old have a highly developed gift of discernment to know the difference between The Real Thing and a counterfeit? Do a Coke challenge test???
Why do you think First Holy Communion is, generally, available to 7 year old's children of Catholic parents?
Why do Satanists steal only Catholic consecrated hosts for their diabolical rituals? Maybe because Satan knows the difference between That and a counterfeit???

Eating a wafer and drinking grape juice does not give someone eternal life. Eating from the Tree of Life does.

 

[Marymog]

Mary…I don’t mean to bombard you with thoughts. Consider why He has no pleasure in animal sacrifices, or repetitive posturing or long speeches and burnt offerings? To me there is a reason He has no pleasure in what is not able to set any free from their high-minded delusions and deceptions.

Thanks for joining the conversation VIJ. However, I don't have a clue how what you wrote has anything to do with the topic at hand. Would you care to try again and be clearer this time?

Mary

 

[Marymog]

Jesus taught using parables and similitudes. So Jesus “likened” His body “like” the bread of Life and His Testimony “like” wine/ blood.

If Christ is truly “in” someone then the Word and Testimony of Jesus Christ is also “in” them by the Holy Spirit. This is the Word of Life that if a man eats he shall never hunger and thirst again.

This Living Word and Testimony that dwells in us, sanctifies us and cleanses us. This is how the blood/Testimony of Jesus Christ purges our hearts and minds….

Hebrews 9:11-23​

King James Version​

11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.”

That is how the Living waters and blood of Christ cleanses our hearts and minds.

Yup, Jesus "taught using parables". What did Jesus do AFTER he taught using a parable? He took the Apostles to the side and explained it to them (Mark 4:33-34). Did He take the Apostles to the side and explain his bread of life discourse (you must eat my body and drink my blood) to His Apostles? Nope, he didn't. WHY you ask? Well, thanks for asking; I will tell you. BECAUSE IT WASN'T A PARABLE! Notice how at the end of the bread of life discourse (John 6) he turned to the Apostles and said, “Do you also wish to go away?” He didn't explain anything to them. His bread of life discourse is NOTHING like the parables he told. They don't equate AT ALL. The FACT is he gave the 12 the opportunity to walk away just like some of the other Jews did. They didn't. Good thing they didn't because a short time later, at the Last Supper, He SHOWED them how to eat/drink his body/blood. He TOLD them what they need to do and then he SHOWED them how to do it. No parable there Stewardofthemystery. Sorry....

Now, with that fact out of the way you "accidently" cut off the first part of my post which included Pauls question of which I asked you to answer. Maybe you don't want to answer it because you 'feel' like the question is from me and not Paul? Or if you answer it I have trapped you somehow? Not sure WHY you dodged it but Paul still wants to know: Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?

Patient Mary

 

[Marymog]

Eating a wafer and drinking grape juice does not give someone eternal life. Eating from the Tree of Life does.

You believe it is a wafer and grape juice. We believe what He said: This IS my body and blood.

Why don't you believe Him? Why don't you believe Paul?

BTW....Christians don't drink grape juice for communion. We drink wine. There are some Protestant denominations that use grape juice which is not in accordance with Scripture.....but that is their problem to figure out.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Yup, Jesus "taught using parables". What did Jesus do AFTER he taught using a parable? He took the Apostles to the side and explained it to them (Mark 4:33-34). Did He take the Apostles to the side and explain his bread of life discourse (you must eat my body and drink my blood) to His Apostles? Nope, he didn't. WHY you ask? Well, thanks for asking; I will tell you. BECAUSE IT WASN'T A PARABLE! Notice how at the end of the bread of life discourse (John 6) he turned to the Apostles and said, “Do you also wish to go away?” He didn't explain anything to them. His bread of life discourse is NOTHING like the parables he told. They don't equate AT ALL. The FACT is he gave the 12 the opportunity to walk away just like some of the other Jews did. They didn't. Good thing they didn't because a short time later, at the Last Supper, He SHOWED them how to eat/drink his body/blood. He TOLD them what they need to do and then he SHOWED them how to do it. No parable there Stewardofthemystery. Sorry....

Now, with that fact out of the way you "accidently" cut off the first part of my post which included Pauls question of which I asked you to answer. Maybe you don't want to answer it because you 'feel' like the question is from me and not Paul? Or if you answer it I have trapped you somehow? Not sure WHY you dodged it but Paul still wants to know: Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?

Patient Mary

Mark 4:11
And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

You believe it is a wafer and grape juice. We believe what He said: This IS my body and blood.

Why don't you believe Him? Why don't you believe Paul?

BTW....Christians don't drink grape juice for communion. We drink wine. There are some Protestant denominations that use grape juice which is not in accordance with Scripture.....but that is their problem to figure out.

1 Corinthians 11:29
For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

 

[Marymog]

Eating a wafer and drinking grape juice does not give someone eternal life. Eating from the Tree of Life does.

Well @Jude Thaddeus, you asked a very simple question of Steward: back up what you believe using Scripture. I for one was looking forward to a legitimate answer so that maybe I could learn something I didn't know. Looks like you and me are not going to get one

Steward: Your 'answer' leaves me more questions. How does one eat from the tree of life?