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I don't remember reading this. I'm not seeing it either, but I'll stay tuned, maybe someone else knows . . .
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This reminds me of the Ark being passed around, L. Remember the destruction that had followed until they gathered and was like "take that thing back to them least God destroy us completely", or something like that.
I remember reading about the scapegoat but not a curse. It was in the old testament about sacrifices I don't understand. Leviticus 16. I searched the internet and found no other references for scapegoat.
A word search of Leviticus 16 provided these references to the scapegoat: -
Leviticus 16:5-10: - 5 And he shall take from the congregation of the children of Israel two kids of the goats as a sin offering, and one ram as a burnt offering.
6 "Aaron shall offer the bull as a sin offering, which is for himself, and make atonement for himself and for his house. 7 He shall take the two goats and present them before the Lord at the door of the tabernacle of meeting. 8 Then Aaron shall cast lots for the two goats: one lot for the Lord and the other lot for the scapegoat. 9 And Aaron shall bring the goat on which the Lord's lot fell and offer it as a sin offering. 10 But the goat on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat shall be presented alive before the Lord, to make atonement upon it, and to let it go as the scapegoat into the wilderness.
Leviticus 16:20-22: - 20 "And when he has made an end of atoning for the Holy Place, the tabernacle of meeting, and the altar, he shall bring the live goat. 21 Aaron shall lay both his hands on the head of the live goat, confess over it all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions, concerning all their sins, putting them on the head of the goat, and shall send it away into the wilderness by the hand of a suitable man. 22 The goat shall bear on itself all their iniquities to an uninhabited part of the country; and he shall release the goat in the wilderness.
I saw no references to what would happen if a scapegoat found its way back to civilisation and entered a village or settlement.
Hope this helps
Shalom
Leviticus 16:5-10: - 5 And he shall take from the congregation of the children of Israel two kids of the goats as a sin offering, and one ram as a burnt offering.
6 "Aaron shall offer the bull as a sin offering, which is for himself, and make atonement for himself and for his house. 7 He shall take the two goats and present them before the Lord at the door of the tabernacle of meeting. 8 Then Aaron shall cast lots for the two goats: one lot for the Lord and the other lot for the scapegoat. 9 And Aaron shall bring the goat on which the Lord's lot fell and offer it as a sin offering. 10 But the goat on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat shall be presented alive before the Lord, to make atonement upon it, and to let it go as the scapegoat into the wilderness.
Leviticus 16:20-22: - 20 "And when he has made an end of atoning for the Holy Place, the tabernacle of meeting, and the altar, he shall bring the live goat. 21 Aaron shall lay both his hands on the head of the live goat, confess over it all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions, concerning all their sins, putting them on the head of the goat, and shall send it away into the wilderness by the hand of a suitable man. 22 The goat shall bear on itself all their iniquities to an uninhabited part of the country; and he shall release the goat in the wilderness.
I saw no references to what would happen if a scapegoat found its way back to civilisation and entered a village or settlement.
Hope this helps
Shalom
BlessedPeace
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They discussed this at Quora.
If it returned I'd think it would not bring nor be construed as a curse.
What would happen in the ancient Jewish scapegoat ritual (Leviticus 16:5-10) if the goat came back alive from the wilderness? Would it be...
Answer (1 of 9): The word Azazel comes from the word Az which means powerful and forbidding. There is also an understanding that Azazel was a specific well known hill. The goat was pushed off a steep cliff and as it rolled off, the powerful force of its hitting the rocks broke the goat into piece...
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Thank you everyone who researched this. I could have sworn I read at some point about what would happen should the goat wander into a settlement. I'm not sure where I got that idea from. I am of the opinion that the scapegoat represents the devil, which would make for something more ominous. It appears that the scapegoat was thrown off a cliff to its death in practice, however this was not commanded in scripture. It reminds me of how Cain was made to wonder the wilderness and no one was supposed to kill him. Which is also reminiscent of Satan's fall from heaven.
Revelation 12:12
Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.”
Revelation 12:12
Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.”
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Interesting parallel about this. The Hebrew word used for scapegoat is "azazel." This is also the name of the watcher in the Book of Enoch who leads a rebellion that ties in with Genesis 6.
Ronald Nolette
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There is no verse for that. ONly Lev. 16 speaks of the scapegoat and what to do.
It sounds more like a commentary from Jewish writers.
I remember reading somewhere that there was a tradition that after the scapegoat was released, if it was ever seen again, the scarlet cord had turned white.
Much love!
Davy
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Yet, that Rev.12:7-12 Scripture is not about Satan's original fall. It is about the very end of this world when he and his angels are booted out of the heavenly dimension down to this earth, here in our earthy dimension, in person.
Note the subject in the 10-11 verses...
Rev 12:10-12
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Did that happen back when Satan first rebelled? Nope, for Lord Jesus Christ was not born of woman yet back then, to die on the cross in order to offer Salvation.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Did those overcome Satan "by the blood of the Lamb" back when Satan first fell? That idea is actually a link to the subject of the 5th Seal of Rev.6.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
KJV
That time of Satan's wrath is for the end, for the time of "great tribulation". So when Jesus in John 12:31 said, "Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out," by that Jesus was pointing to Satan being cast out at the end of this world, for the coming "great tribulation". That is when some of us will be delivered up to councils and synagogues to give a Testimony by The Holy Spirit (Mark 13). That is what the 5th Seal is about linked to Rev.12:11, those saints at the end executed for the Testimony for Christ they will give during the coming "great tribulation".
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