UK's got problems and let's take a look at the current climate:

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I see similarities to the BLM riots and counter riots in the US. The socialist apparatus of the Democrat party and main stream media held a double standard by ignoring the crimes of the BLM rioters but persecuting the counter protestors to the full extent of the law and beyond. I call them protestors because that is all they were, not violent unless pressured. And they were pressured by useful idiots and paid instigator s.

What we see here are concerned citizens that want justice restored to the streets where gangs are intentionally allowed to run amok. It is social engineering, and the so called far right are appealing for rule of law. But they are appealing to a bunch of lawless socialists who couldn't care less about picketers when they have a wave of immigrants to vote for them.
Thank you for pointing that out @lforrest. That was an issue if I remember the news reports coming out of the Trump blamed Jan. 6th riots. It was wild and inappropriate for the force they used against the capital as a mob of people. We are allowed a peaceful protest to voice our opinions and concerns and whatever it may be they were protesting about. We all had ideas thrown at us about riot instigators with hidden agendas. I'm not sure they weren't anarchists.
 

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Thank you for pointing that out @lforrest. That was an issue if I remember the news reports coming out of the Trump blamed Jan. 6th riots. It was wild and inappropriate for the force they used against the capital as a mob of people. We are allowed a peaceful protest to voice our opinions and concerns and whatever it may be they were protesting about. We all had ideas thrown at us about riot instigators with hidden agendas. I'm not sure they weren't anarchists.
It was the Democrat FDR who said "in politics nothing happens by accident."" Allowing unmarried male immigrants into the country to form Gangs and get away with rape and abuse. It was all intentional.

Do a google search for the "silenced" movie presumed to have instigated this riot. Yep, it's been censored, scrubbed from the search results.
 
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As indicated from my information provided in post #13 "violent" behavior can have a cause. It is not good to assume it is caused from mental illness. A person that wants to help a violent person, no matter what their mental, emotion or physical state is, can have problems addressing the truth that is causing the violent behaviors. Sometimes negative afflictions, such as abuse, against a person or influences in their lives must be assessed, dealt with before the violent behaviors can be relieved. The most effect person to perform that healing is God. I would be more likely to look at the surroundings of your sister's environment and look for mental, emotional and physical abuse afflicted against her. That certainly can result in stress and anger which can lead to violence if not responsible dealt with. I don't believe voices by themselves can cause violence, although I am not a psychiatrist as I'm sure you are aware of. Does what I am saying make sense to you?
Yes, but in my mind anyone that goes into a dance school and stabs children aged between 7-10 years old is not in their right mind , regardless of cause. The children weren’t stabbed just once. The alternative is to believe he is of sound mind and knew exactly what he was doing, which, in all due respects , would be callous and cold. Abuse and trauma can impact the mind, in other words mentally.
Its difficult to tell with my SIL, she was so lovely and it’s been soul destroying watching her with this illness, the voice relay such horrible things to her.
I know this is close to your heart because of your own situation. Of course the situation is complex with this young man, and I truly hope he gets the support he needs. He has to live with what he has done.
 
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It was the Democrat FDR who said "in politics nothing happens by accident."" Allowing unmarried male immigrants into the country to form Gangs and get away with rape and abuse. It was all intentional.

Do a google search for the "silenced" movie presumed to have instigated this riot. Yep, it's been censored, scrubbed from the search results.
I have noticed in my own research that search engines hits seem to be dissapearing and also drown out with massive other "key word" similar content. I noticed I only can find certain articles when they are still recent.
 

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Yes, but in my mind anyone that goes into a dance school and stabs children aged between 7-10 years old is not in their right mind , regardless of cause. The children weren’t stabbed just once. The alternative is to believe he is of sound mind and knew exactly what he was doing, which, in all due respects , would be callous and cold. Abuse and trauma can impact the mind, in other words mentally.
Its difficult to tell with my SIL, she was so lovely and it’s been soul destroying watching her with this illness, the voice relay such horrible things to her.
I know this is close to your heart because of your own situation. Of course the situation is complex with this young man, and I truly hope he gets the support he needs. He has to live with what he has done.
Thank you @Rita for your testimony on those matters. I pray your sister is comforted by God and you as well. I know it is difficult to watch someone who is troubled in any way. Especially someone you love.

I'm not sure anyone who commits horrific crimes which are evil which include murder are of a mental, emotional or spiritual state that we pleasant people can understand mentally or emotionally. We are delivered thru Grace by God and in a loving Fathers arms. We get to know God and his loving nature and desire to emulate that in interaction with others and even ourselves and towards our God.

My concern for the riots is the terrorist nature of what that man allegedly did to those children. People sometimes react in negative ways as the authority of the land might see it and apparently do see it in the UK related to that whole problem they have to deal with.
 
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I have noticed in my own research that search engines hits seem to be dissapearing and also drown out with massive other "key word" similar content. I noticed I only can find certain articles when they are still recent.
They are scrubbing the results for the purposes of censorship so their propaganda is all you can hear. Just like they did with the assassination attempt against Donald Trump Senator Marshall Leads Investigation into Google’s Censorship of President Trump Assassination Search Results - Senator Roger Marshall
 
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@Pearl just found out that there is a March planned for Brighton on Wednesday evening - I believe they are dealing with unrest in Plymouth tonight. I am away Wednesday evening but travelling back to the town centre on Thursday x
 

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@Pearl just found out that there is a March planned for Brighton on Wednesday evening - I believe they are dealing with unrest in Plymouth tonight. I am away Wednesday evening but travelling back to the town centre on Thursday x
It's so wrong to hang all this crime and destruction and violence on the back of the Southport stabbings, but seems like they could hang their actions on almost anything.
 

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It's so wrong to hang all this crime and destruction and violence on the back of the Southport stabbings, but seems like they could hang their actions on almost anything.
They are saying that it’s all about immigration now - at least that’s what the Brighton March is supposedly about ……..
 
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They are saying that it’s all about immigration now - at least that’s what the Brighton March is supposedly about ……..
I think there are the core/leaders of these riots/protests and then the followers and then all and sundry who just want a good excuse to run riot, and loot shops.
 

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I think there are the core/leaders of these riots/protests and then the followers and then all and sundry who just want a good excuse to run riot, and loot shops.
Yes, I agree.
Don‘t these people realise that it’s the people that have to pay when they cause so much damage !?
 
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What we are seeing at the moment are Satan's flash mobs doing his dances and singing his songs.

Shalom
 

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Yes, but in my mind anyone that goes into a dance school and stabs children aged between 7-10 years old is not in their right mind , regardless of cause. The children weren’t stabbed just once. The alternative is to believe he is of sound mind and knew exactly what he was doing, which, in all due respects , would be callous and cold. Abuse and trauma can impact the mind, in other words mentally.
Its difficult to tell with my SIL, she was so lovely and it’s been soul destroying watching her with this illness, the voice relay such horrible things to her.
I know this is close to your heart because of your own situation. Of course the situation is complex with this young man, and I truly hope he gets the support he needs. He has to live with what he has done.
He should of been shot by police before he harmed anyone's kids ! No excuse ! do you want Children used as bate ! think of the people who love them Children, why did they have to suffer somthing like that ! let alone the poor children, what their lives are to be now !

I do not truly know the whole deal that went down, but i think people are so sick of such, for they live in fear nowadays and emotions run high ! because they may feel forced to endure so much nowadays.

Stupid gangs do get about tho regardless, so who knows what their agenda is coming from.
 

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Not in our area but they were in the town centre yesterday I posted just before you. It is terrible what hate can lead to. In this case hate against a certain group of people just as the hate in Germans was against the Jewish people. And when haters get together with those with the same mindset it escalates and becomes very dangerous.
The Jews in Germany and the world were not seen as nice in fact, the UK was no more anti-Jewish than Germany was or any place in the world. all people hated the Jews in fact ! why well Jewish Bankers have a real bad history in fact of undermining people ! that's the number one issue of such hatred over 100's of years in fact !

I have nearly every educated professional people say to me when they first meet me say. Oh your Jewish ! because of my sirname.
I have to state that i am a Christian.
Then it goes from their on to anything, like you were lucky ! I say my forefathers were in Australia before well before Hitler was even born. and some take no account of that i informed them of that ? with one indian toff i thought why did this so wealthy Indian peddle such a line the way that he did to me ? he is a racial prejudice moron, that's why and wound up in falsehood ! a typical blind prejudice fool.
Others are much more open and do not have such blinders on.

I feel why some people they have fitted blikers like you put on a Horse ? for they feel they were subjected against ? but they think it's because of a issue ? and that issue to them is not factual in fact, but a claim ? that has been drummed up in their head or promoted !
So when one makes a claim that he had been done wrong say, it's because of X ? but the real reason is X Y and Z ? Just as it is with a white person is being views from other whites for a job or whatever ? you will be judged in fact ! number one issue is, will this person be a problem to me or us ? for no one wants trouble makers in fact. no one has time for that. 2ed are you a thief ? 3rd are you to be trusted. 4th and it goes on and on and rightfully so !

Not to mention if History was the other way around and China dominated the world what then ? or the Blacks ? who would of been the best for all and most advanced up to this point in History ? Now where do the Jews come into it all ? well if it was not for the Jews regardless be they bastards or whatever. i think that the Jews did have a hand in the worlds progress good and the bad mind yo ? not to mention in all nations their is the good and the bad. as every race has the same issues in fact regardless.
But now we have all come to a point that things get way better and we put all that behind us all and get on with living and the only thing we need do now is look within us and clean ourselves up, that is what should be promoted by Governments, but it's not at all !
Sure the real clean up is only in Christ Jesus that can do that for us ! but sadly the Socialist want what they would claim is a clean up ? but it's more about demanding and dominating over the people to swallow the lowest denominator ? that's a big diffrence ! people want to change or be changed ? to be changed will not work for the good of Man. as every idiot in History Hitler Stalin etc only cause hell in fact !

So i believe that we should own it ? say yes i openly agree to my faults, true faults ? That's who i was ! or that's who i am ?
So a queer says look this is me and they are open about them selfs, like my Gay mate, i respect that he has his faults as everyone i know has some fault, that you may not look up to but you still get along just fine ! That's him ! i may not incorrage things that i do not look up to in one. like one bloke i know who is a skirt chaser for example ! for such is not good, it's stupid in fact ! he is 62yo now and still as stupid ! not to mention mates who were 17yo like that but they grew out of it.

But everything that is directed by Governments is all half baked BS in fact and the most pathetic in reality in dealing with anything worthy, like would you invest in a Government to get a job done ? the cost for a government to do anything is like 10 times the cost of what it could be and a 3rd rate job done of it. bodgy wastful half baked no responsability for such comes back on the Government. for they can be a compleat goose ! a billion doller project can easy become 2 billion and no worries all is good ! it's only Tax payers money ! so who cares ? 80% of the nation would not have a clue or care less in fact ! untill the day comes and they all trip over the debt and be smashed that hard that they will regret being such a total outright fool.
 

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I think there are the core/leaders of these riots/protests and then the followers and then all and sundry who just want a good excuse to run riot, and loot shops.
I've heard the term here used for that type of person and I believe the proper term for that behavior is anarchist. I believe they also did damage here during protests on behalf of Trump. They tend to ruin what people are doing. And I'm not sure it isn't intentional.
 

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What we are seeing at the moment are Satan's flash mobs doing his dances and singing his songs.

Shalom
I'm not sure blaming "Satan" is helpful to the investigation of "whom" are behind the criminal actions during those "protests" or "riots". I don't think the UK authorities will look for Satan to apprehend. (A little bit of humor for @Jay Ross). Apparently there is now post #36.
 

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I'm not sure blaming "Satan" is helpful to the investigation of "whom" are behind the criminal actions during those "protests" or "riots". I don't think the UK authorities will look for Satan to apprehend. (A little bit of humor for @Jay Ross). Apparently there is now post #36.
If you think about it dev, it’s a reminder of the spiritual battle - for sure most of the world, and some Christians, have forgotten who the real enemy is and where the real battle is taking place.
We all do it at times, and often through the things we convey and concentrate on, often give Satan the centre stage and he must gladly rub his hands at his achievements.
 
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If you think about it dev, it’s a reminder of the spiritual battle - for sure most of the world, and some Christians, have forgotten who the real enemy is and where the real battle is taking place.
We all do it at times, and often through the things we convey and concentrate on, often give Satan the centre stage and he must gladly rub his hands at his achievements.
@Rita I'm not sure what you are referring to in those statement. I have addressed some serious issues that I felt God wanted me to address. Not everyone would see things that way perhaps. God distributes to everyone differently according to their needs.

If you find yourself focusing on evil and feel it is affecting you negatively I would direct you to seek God in prayer for help.
 

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@Rita I'm not sure what you are referring to in those statement. I have addressed some serious issues that I felt God wanted me to address. Not everyone would see things that way perhaps. God distributes to everyone differently according to their needs.

If you find yourself focusing on evil and feel it is affecting you negatively I would direct you to seek God in prayer for help.
It wasn’t a critism of what you post , you took something personal. I was talking ‘ in general ‘ and Just adding to what you and Jay had posted.