UK's got problems and let's take a look at the current climate:

[Raccoon1010]

UK PM Starmer condemns 'far-right thuggery' as rioting grips nation

From the story:

Starmer vowed to end the mayhem and said police across the UK would be given more resources and that those taking part would face "the full force of the law".

"I guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder, whether directly or those whipping up this action online and then running away themselves. This is not protest. It is organised, violent thuggery and it has no place on our streets or online," he said.

At least the UK is handling those "thugs". @Pearl I certainly hope you are not affected negatively by that problem happening today in the UK. For the other readers, there is a story behind that problem happening and I don't want to address sensative issues in the UK, but I feel this story is also happening in the USA but in a very different way regarding Palestine supporters wanting to end innocent deaths from wars started by evil ideas against Israel.

I don't want to say that the UK people should not have a say or ability to protect those they love including themselves. And sometimes if that is not happening to their satisfaction they protest. And it may become violent in nature, which is a problem for the enforcing authority of the land. I'm not sure that is the same that is happening in the USA related to Palestine supporters. Thoughts?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

UK PM Starmer condemns 'far-right thuggery' as rioting grips nation

From the story:

Starmer vowed to end the mayhem and said police across the UK would be given more resources and that those taking part would face "the full force of the law".

"I guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder, whether directly or those whipping up this action online and then running away themselves. This is not protest. It is organised, violent thuggery and it has no place on our streets or online," he said.

At least the UK is handling those "thugs". @Pearl I certainly hope you are not affected negatively by that problem happening today in the UK. For the other readers, there is a story behind that problem happening and I don't want to address sensative issues in the UK, but I feel this story is also happening in the USA but in a very different way regarding Palestine supporters wanting to end innocent deaths from wars started by evil ideas against Israel.

I don't want to say that the UK people should not have a say or ability to protect those they love including themselves. And sometimes if that is not happening to their satisfaction they protest. And it may become violent in nature, which is a problem for the enforcing authority of the land. I'm not sure that is the same that is happening in the USA related to Palestine supporters. Thoughts?

From the news i seen on TV i could not make out wat was truly going on in reality of this. Right Wing thugs ? On line issues ?
What is the right wing issues ? what is the on line issues ? The Socialist do not want anyone to have rights ? is that it !

The MSM are totaly full of lies 24/7, i seen on TV of late, making out that Trump is a monster, by taking out snippets of what was said to mean somthing that one thinks Trump is a total fool, i even though what the hell Trumps is outright nuts on this case but one has to go and look at what was truly saying and you can see the TV Media are using out right fraud ! They out right lie so as to play out their war on Trump !
The Socialist and the Media are truly evil, they are at war with what was the foundations our Nations were built on and they work to turn everything up side down.

The ends of the Socialist are all about getting power over everyone in fact ! they have worked to such ends for years now, it's their warfair in fact, the Governments bring in moronic trash from Nations that hate the people who's Nation they come into live in fact and clearly want to undermine our own History and Culture.

So the Government work so as to make laws that target our own Nations people as domestic terrorist ! for they flooded trash into our nation who are terrorist in fact !

Now we have a load of trash people who our moronic Government let in, that clearly get about saying gas the Jews ! Now if an Australian said such a stupid moronic thing, one would be targeted for sure look we found a Nazi ! they would have a field day for months ranting look Australian Nazis, we found one ! but if they are of a known Nation of people who do totaly hate Jews in fact ! such is all sweept under the carpet Noting to be seen here and PM saying They did not say that ! He outright lies ! because we all heard it clearly !

We are clearly being taken for a ride ! and it's not about the right wing or the left wing so much, it's all about Socialism ! and Socialism then becomes Communism.

Hey i can not even mention the Nations of such people who are full on what is called Anti-Semitic ? but if my own countryman was a Anti-Semitic idiot then we see, Look an Australian Anti-Semite ! he is an Australian, so he can be pulled apart like crows would do, but the very same crows could not deal with an imported Anti-Semite in fact for they are protected totaly regardless in fact.

So is that a Two State Solution ? that we are seeing the workings of such here ? you people are under one Law and the others are not ?

Who is dealing theise cards ? We are being undermined by lowlife trash and it's a cancer regarding everything nowadays ! they do not want you to have the right to freedom of speech ! why is that, well you are being dictated to in fact ! by Trash who are clearly undermining our Nations and they are kicking down our Nations past History.
The very backbone of our people who built the Nation up, now we can see the Trash are working full on so as to bring it all down !

I am proud of my forefathers in fact ! and anyone who bags such people are total morons who could not hold a candle to them in fact.

Oh yes we Socialist are creating a new people ! That's what they say in fact, for we are a new generation far more advance than that of your fathers days ? for they were all idiots !
But now we have a new society ! where the Metrosexual is King ! lord of all ?
The little boy man dominates like a mongrel Dog ! for his display of gutless depraved self promoting delusions is what he truly only is.
A Worm a filthy good for nothing grub in fact.
Someone who uses women as the Bible points out is un natural.
Not to mention that the boy man could not hold a family together in fact for anything beyound himself, is that he can not see past his own nose in fact, it's all about himself in fact.
Good old Metro man, the New Age dipstick !

 

[Rita]

Do you know why the riots started - it was as a result one a 17year old going into a dance group of young children and stabbing them, three died and 6 were injured, along with two adults. The far right groups were reacting to the fact that the young mans named meant he was foreign - they presumed he was a Muslim. They used it as an excuse to spark the riots - they have continued every night in different parts of Liverpool and elsewhere.
Asian areas have been impacted - so it’s racially motivated.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Do you know why the riots started - it was as a result one a 17year old going into a dance group of young children and stabbing them, three died and 6 were injured, along with two adults. The far right groups were reacting to the fact that the young mans named meant he was foreign - they presumed he was a Muslim. They used it as an excuse to spark the riots - they have continued every night in different parts of Liverpool and elsewhere.
Asian areas have been impacted - so it’s racially motivated.

I'm not sure about the UK and the current condition in the UK other than what is reported in the UK news. About the generalization that you feel that it was racist motivated conduct. I will state some USA problems I see. And that is mixing cultures and not necessarily mixing races.

I think some people have been indoctrinated with an idea of racist conduct, especially in social media, and what they understand that to be. I grew up on an tribal land area and the raising of people depending on culture certainly plays a role in how they will behave in civilized culture like the United States with USA laws. Christians even fail their children raising them incorrectly.

One does not have to be racist to be against certain what I would call "Dark Values" taught in certain cultures. Hopefully all cultures eliminate those dark teachings by embracing God and his son Jesus the Christ and the commandments of the Bible.

There are head hunter tribes still that exist in some areas of the world that kill man for evil reasons. There are idol worshipers that reject Christianity and murder Christians and that is part of their ungodly dark religion.

A person can see a race, or a person who's heart has been compromised by non-civilized cultural ideas. I certainly can see good and evil in many different races. I think an intelligent person can distinguish between race and evil cultures and use it for good teaching among the none educated.

I remember my readings from the Old Testament about tribes that had daughters that were sold to men for a certain price. Hmm, I think USA laws have evolved quite a bit since then under the direction of the New Testament which stated a Bishop should be a husband of "one wife". God's direction is the solution to problems with the world and the un-educated areas that have not been informed about God and his superior moral and ethics.

 

[Pearl]

UK PM Starmer condemns 'far-right thuggery' as rioting grips nation

From the story:

Starmer vowed to end the mayhem and said police across the UK would be given more resources and that those taking part would face "the full force of the law".

"I guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder, whether directly or those whipping up this action online and then running away themselves. This is not protest. It is organised, violent thuggery and it has no place on our streets or online," he said.

At least the UK is handling those "thugs". @Pearl I certainly hope you are not affected negatively by that problem happening today in the UK. For the other readers, there is a story behind that problem happening and I don't want to address sensative issues in the UK, but I feel this story is also happening in the USA but in a very different way regarding Palestine supporters wanting to end innocent deaths from wars started by evil ideas against Israel.

I don't want to say that the UK people should not have a say or ability to protect those they love including themselves. And sometimes if that is not happening to their satisfaction they protest. And it may become violent in nature, which is a problem for the enforcing authority of the land. I'm not sure that is the same that is happening in the USA related to Palestine supporters. Thoughts?

All this rioting is hate crime against Muslims after false info was put on social media about the lad who killed those three little girls. It is just horrible and so unwanted by the families of the victims. Looting and attacking Mosques and police and putting police in hospital. These are not patriots but as Kier Starmer said they are thugs who will latch on to anything in order to attack those they don't agree with. And it really needs to be stamped out quick.

 

[Pearl]

Do you know why the riots started - it was as a result one a 17year old going into a dance group of young children and stabbing them, three died and 6 were injured, along with two adults. The far right groups were reacting to the fact that the young mans named meant he was foreign - they presumed he was a Muslim. They used it as an excuse to spark the riots - they have continued every night in different parts of Liverpool and elsewhere.
Asian areas have been impacted - so it’s racially motivated.

It's supposed to be an anti-immigration protest but is more a hate crime than a protest. They were in Bolton yesterday. This is a pic of the main square in front of the Town Hall with the police ready at both ends to deter protestors and counter protestors.

 

[Rita]

In the U.K., at the moment what is happening is a group of people who want ‘ only British people - often white to be here. Within the riots, one black man ( just walking along the street ) was set upon by 20 men. Immigration hostels set alight( with young children and mothers inside ) , Asian communities attacked and then they defend.
On the other side- police cars attack police stations set on fire ( authority ) and they burned down a library
One man was ridiculed by the crowd ( he was a rioter ) he felt humiliated so he went home an beat his wife ( she is now in hospital an he has been arrested )
This was all fueled by mis- in formation and Nigel Farage was part of that n what he relayed.
The young man who did the stabbing came from a Christian family, he is black. He has mental health issues and because of cut backs to those services that support those with mental health issues he was missed and wasnt In his right mind.

 

[Rita]

Have you been affected @Pearl , I know they had planned many riots over the weekend, none were planned for where I am living.

 

[Pearl]

Have you been affected @Pearl , I know they had planned many riots over the weekend, none were planned for where I am living.

Not in our area but they were in the town centre yesterday I posted just before you. It is terrible what hate can lead to. In this case hate against a certain group of people just as the hate in Germans was against the Jewish people. And when haters get together with those with the same mindset it escalates and becomes very dangerous.

 

[Rita]

Not in our area but they were in the town centre yesterday I posted just before you. It is terrible what hate can lead to. In this case hate against a certain group of people just as the hate in Germans was against the Jewish people. And when haters get together with those with the same mindset it escalates and becomes very dangerous.

Not sure it is just against one group - against many groups

 

[Raccoon1010]

It's supposed to be an anti-immigration protest but is more a hate crime than a protest. They were in Bolton yesterday. This is a pic of the main square in front of the Town Hall with the police ready at both ends to deter protestors and counter protestors.
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That is unfortunate. That it is no longer a peaceful protest. And by the imagery I see in UK news that certainly appears to be correct. I think the authorities of the UK will have to determine what crimes happened during such protests. I'm not sure they will attempt to say what a person was feeling at the time of an action such as feelings of hate. Unless the perpetrators confess to that they felt something they would describe as hate during such conduct. They can certainly judge peoples actions but I think only God can judge their soul.

There is the fact stated in the bible:

Matthew 6:24 “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

And I can see two sides during the non-peaceful reported media content in the UK distributed news. I certainly do not support breaking God's laws as directed in the bible and even ethically and morally under God's direction after the bible for modern society.

"Hate Crime" probably has a definition in the UK like it does in the USA and perhaps that fits some of the actions of Mosque attacks and other actions. I am not versed in UK law language.

 

[Raccoon1010]

The young man who did the stabbing came from a Christian family, he is black. He has mental health issues and because of cut backs to those services that support those with mental health issues he was missed and wasnt In his right mind.

Interesting statements in your post. I will point out a discrimination stance against mentally ill people. Some un-educated people have been indoctrinated by influences to believe a mentally ill person would commit horrific crimes from a condition of mental illness. That indoctrination can possibly fuel hate crimes against innocent mentally ill children and adults. There are many different forms of mental illness. Do you feel black people in the news are being discriminated against by the violent protestors?

I do have over 25 years of experience with mental illness. Perhaps people will listen to my witness from God on the matters.

 

[Raccoon1010]

@Rita I have researched the issue regarding mental illness and often wonder myself why the news associates and even states that a person had some form of mental treatment or counseling in their history when I crime is being investigated. I certainly hope the UK authorities investigating the crime that started the UK riots are informed in an intelligent way instead of by the news.

Here is one such statement here in the USA:

"Studies have repeatedly shown that the majority of individuals with mental illness are not violent and that the majority of violent acts are not committed by those with mental illness. Further, research indicates only 3% to 5% of violent acts can be attributed to persons with SMI." ICJIA | Illinois Criminal Justice Information Authority

I certainly would feel more informed after the UK police have investigated the facts of the case that the rioters responded to. And even if assessed by the UK I will follow God on the matter and not be directed by men unless I can verify their assessments under God.

 

[Rockerduck]

George Soros is funding many riots across the world. It seems nobody investigates the source. I've seen nice tour buses dropping people off to protest. I believe some are paid anarchists, that is, people who are good at inciting a crowd, in person, and social media. The aim is to make Gov't unstable.

 

[Rita]

Interesting statements in your post. I will point out a discrimination stance against mentally ill people. Some un-educated people have been indoctrinated by influences to believe a mentally ill person would commit horrific crimes from a condition of mental illness. That indoctrination can possibly fuel hate crimes against innocent mentally ill children and adults. There are many different forms of mental illness. Do you feel black people in the news are being discriminated against by the violent protestors?

I do have over 25 years of experience with mental illness. Perhaps people will listen to my witness from God on the matters.

My sister in law has had schizophrenia for over 30years , but I also know what she is like if she doesn’t take her meds - she has been violent at times and the reality is that some ( not all ) have been known to act on what the voices within tell them
The mental health system in the U.K. is really struggling and there are long waiting lists to get the help and support you need. We don’t know at this stage what prompted him to go into that dance club.
He was black, so by mere association the other black guy was attacked. As I said earlier Asian people , Muslim and asylum seekers were targeted , not aware that the mentally ill are being discriminated against. The fact that he was mentally ill kind of gives some understanding and actually if the mental health system failed him in some way then he is as much a victim as the children.

 

[Rita]

George Soros is funding many riots across the world. It seems nobody investigates the source. I've seen nice tour buses dropping people off to protest. I believe some are paid anarchists, that is, people who are good at inciting a crowd, in person, and social media. The aim is to make Gov't unstable.

The BNP party has been around for years and years, don’t think they need any help from anyone to start riots- I don’t doubt there are hidden agendas at work

 

[lforrest]

If I hear the term far-right used against a group I don't believe it. It is a dog whistle, and they want us to believe the people they are painting far-right are basically Nazis. But you won't hear what they actually stand for because the media will only lie.

 

[Rita]

If I hear the term far-right used against a group I don't believe it. It is a dog whistle, and they want us to believe the people they are painting far-right are basically Nazis. But you won't hear what they actually stand for because the media will only lie.

so what would you call them , to be honest even if they didn’t affiliate with a certain group they are still trouble makers just inciting violence, and stupid people just team up with them because they are dont put their brains into gear !

 

[lforrest]

so what would you call them , to be honest even if they didn’t affiliate with a certain group they are still trouble makers just inciting violence, and stupid people just team up with them because they are dont put their brains into gear !

I see similarities to the BLM riots and counter riots in the US. The socialist apparatus of the Democrat party and main stream media held a double standard by ignoring the crimes of the BLM rioters but persecuting the counter protestors to the full extent of the law and beyond. I call them protestors because that is all they were, not violent unless pressured. And they were pressured by useful idiots and paid instigator s.

What we see here are concerned citizens that want justice restored to the streets where gangs are intentionally allowed to run amok. It is social engineering, and the so called far right are appealing for rule of law. But they are appealing to a bunch of lawless socialists who couldn't care less about picketers when they have a wave of immigrants to vote for them.

 

[Raccoon1010]

My sister in law has had schizophrenia for over 30years , but I also know what she is like if she doesn’t take her meds - she has been violent at times and the reality is that some ( not all ) have been known to act on what the voices within tell them
The mental health system in the U.K. is really struggling and there are long waiting lists to get the help and support you need. We don’t know at this stage what prompted him to go into that dance club.
He was black, so by mere association the other black guy was attacked. As I said earlier Asian people , Muslim and asylum seekers were targeted , not aware that the mentally ill are being discriminated against. The fact that he was mentally ill kind of gives some understanding and actually if the mental health system failed him in some way then he is as much a victim as the children.

As indicated from my information provided in post #13 "violent" behavior can have a cause. It is not good to assume it is caused from mental illness. A person that wants to help a violent person, no matter what their mental, emotion or physical state is, can have problems addressing the truth that is causing the violent behaviors. Sometimes negative afflictions, such as abuse, against a person or influences in their lives must be assessed, dealt with before the violent behaviors can be relieved. The most effect person to perform that healing is God. I would be more likely to look at the surroundings of your sister's environment and look for mental, emotional and physical abuse afflicted against her. That certainly can result in stress and anger which can lead to violence if not responsible dealt with. I don't believe voices by themselves can cause violence, although I am not a psychiatrist as I'm sure you are aware of. Does what I am saying make sense to you?