Prophecy of antichrist

[tailgator]

The false prophet spirit has already arrived, it is the tail of the Red Dragon.

Isaiah 9:15
The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.

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The second beast has not arrived in judea yet.It will not arrive until after Donald Trump is reelected.

After that,the beast is given 42 months to continue.

Revelation 13
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

We are talking about the dragon who can't reach the woman in the wilderness.

Or are you saying revelation is wrong and the dragon can reach the woman in the wilderness?

You say revelation is wrong do you?

Revelation 12:14
The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach.

"out of the serpent’s reach."

That is a bad translation, face means “presence.”

Revelation 12:14

King James Version

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14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Strong’s Definitions
πρόσωπον prósōpon, pros'-o-pon; from G4314 and ὤψ ṓps (the visage, from G3700); the front (as being towards view), i.e. the countenance, aspect, appearance, surface; by implication, presence, person:—(outward) appearance, × before, countenance, face, fashion, (men's) person, presence.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Who is the beast that will be cast alive into the lake of fire at Jesus's Second Coming in Revelation 19:20 ?

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Prophetic beasts are kingdoms, Doug. Why will you not accept this?

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

The beast is obviously symbolic rather than being a literal beast with seven literal heads and ten literal horns. So, anything that it describes as happening to the beast is symbolic as well. Literal things don't happen to symbolic entities. It's not talking about an individual man being cast alive into a literal lake of fire. That's all symbolic. Even death and hell will be cast into the lake of fire (Rev 20:14), so you shouldn't assume that a reference to something being cast into the lake of fire has to refer to a living being.

Who is the man of sin, who will reveal himself as such by committing the act in 2Thessalonians 2:4 ?

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

That is referring to sinful mankind in a general sense just as the reference to "the man of God" in the following passage refers to the people of God in a general sense.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Doug, scripture teaches that we, the church are the temple of God (Eph 2:19-22, 2 Cor 6:16). No future physical temple can be considered the temple of God because He no longer dwells in temples made with hands (Acts 7:48, Acts 17:24).

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

It will not arrive until after Donald Trump is reelected.

After that,the beast is given 42 months to continue.

Revelation 13
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Stay away from the frog flavored Kool Aid of the liberal leftist propaganda machine.

 

[tailgator]

That is a bad translation, face means “presence.”

Revelation 12:14​

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King James Version​

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14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Strong’s Definitions
πρόσωπον prósōpon, pros'-o-pon; from G4314 and ὤψ ṓps (the visage, from G3700); the front (as being towards view), i.e. the countenance, aspect, appearance, surface; by implication, presence, person:—(outward) appearance, × before, countenance, face, fashion, (men's) person, presence.

Ok ,the servants face is not in the wilderness.I have no problem knowing the woman only has to leave the beasts presence and go where he can not.

Just like Jesus being taken to Egypt out of Herods face.Herod can't touch the wan outside his little kingdom.

 

[tailgator]

Stay away from the frog flavored Kool Aid of the liberal leftist propaganda machine.

I've been watching a prophecy concerning the United states that has been ongoing back to the berit bombings.Ive watched the same prophecy the through a couple of administrations.I even read about 45 moving the US embassy to Jerusalem in 2003.I knew long before Trump was elected that he would move it.

It has nothing to do with liberals.It has to do with the word of God.

I'm not saying don't vote for Trump.Im saying Trump will be reelected and why continue to fulfill the chapter I've been watching for decades.

 

[Zao is life]

But I believe what many fail to understand is….the antichrist "spirit" has already come, as was also prophesied in scripture, and is confirmed by both Jesus and the apostles.

The antichrist spirit has already come.

And the beast ascended from the abyss has a name.

And the ten kings that will reign for "one hour" (contemporaeously) with the beast ascended from the abyss that has a name, will go to war against the Lamb, and be overcome by Him.

And the beast that has a name will continue for 42 months.

Does the antichrist spirit have a name?

Does the beast ascended from the abyss that has a name have an antichrist spirit or in other words the spirit of antichrist?

Do you have proof of whatever your answer is? Or will it be based on conjecture, or on personal interpretation, i.e a formula molded to conform with your image of "the antichrist" (o antichristos) that John said is coming even when many antichrists had already come?

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

The antichrist spirit has already come.

And the beast ascended from the abyss has a name.

And the ten kings that will reign for "one hour" (contemporaeously) with the beast ascended from the abyss that has a name, will go to war against the Lamb, and be overcome by Him.

And the beast that has a name will continue for 42 months.

Does the antichrist spirit have a name?

Does the beast ascended from the abyss that has a name have an antichrist spirit or in other words the spirit of antichrist?

Do you have proof of whatever your answer is? Or will it be based on conjecture, or on personal interpretation, i.e a formula molded to conform with your image of "the antichrist" (o antichristos) that John said is coming even when many antichrists had already come?

The name of the beast is Death, and the mark of the beast is sin. I wrote a study on the mark of the man/ beast if you care to read it and study it.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

I've been watching a prophecy concerning the United states that has been ongoing back to the berit bombings.Ive watched the same prophecy the through a couple of administrations.I even read about 45 moving the US embassy to Jerusalem in 2003.I knew long before Trump was elected that he would move it.

It has nothing to do with liberals.It has to do with the word of God.

I'm not saying don't vote for Trump.Im saying Trump will be reelected and why continue to fulfill the chapter I've been watching for decades.

Where do you find the United States in prophecy, and where is Donald Trump mentioned in prophecy?

 

[Zao is life]

The name of the beast is Death, and the mark of the beast is sin. I wrote a study on the mark of the man/ beast if you care to read it and study it.

Do you have proof of this? Or is it based on conjecture, and on personal interpretation, i.e a formula molded to conform with your image of "the mark of the beast and the number of his name"?

@Stewardofthemystery Which ten kings reign with death?

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Ok ,the servants face is not in the wilderness.I have no problem knowing the woman only has to leave the beasts presence and go where he can not.

Just like Jesus being taken to Egypt out of Herods face.Herod can't touch the wan outside his little kingdom.

Prophecy shows that many of the saints would be overcome and carried away by the flood that proceeded out of the Serpents mouth.
Revelation 12:15
And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

This is why later on you see the harlot church being carried by the scarlet colored beast.

Revelation 17:3
So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Do you have proof of this? Or is it based on conjecture, and on personal interpretation, i.e a formula molded to conform with your image of "the mark of the beast and the number of his name"?

@Stewardofthemystery Which ten kings reign with death?

Yes, I provide scriptural proof in that study called the mark of the man/beast. I also wrote a thread on the ten kings which is called “The feet of the Bear Kingdom”.

 

[Zao is life]

Yes, I provide scriptural proof in that study called the mark of the man/beast. I also wrote a thread on the ten kings which is called “The feet of the Bear Kingdom”.

Would be nice of you to provide the link to that study, and rather conveniently inefficient no to, knowing that only once I've read it, only then can I come back and ask you if the "scriptural proof" is your conjecture or a formula molded to conform with your image of "the mark of the beast and the number of his name"

I did try to search for it. Too many topics in these boards with similar names regarding the mark of the beast.

So until you provide the link, the "scriptural proof" is your conjecture or a formula molded to conform with your image of "the mark of the beast and the number of his name".

 

[Douggg]

Prophetic beasts are kingdoms, Doug. Why will you not accept this?

Because "beast" in the bible do not universally mean "kingdoms".

Was the serpent beast in the garden of Eden - a kingdom ?

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Would be nice of you to provide the link to that study, and rather conveniently inefficient no to, knowing that only once I've read it, only then can I come back and ask you if the "scriptural proof" is your conjecture or a formula molded to conform with your image of "the mark of the beast and the number of his name"

I did try to search for it. Too many topics in these boards with similar names regarding the mark of the beast.

So until you provide the link, the "scriptural proof" is your conjecture or a formula molded to conform with your image of "the mark of the beast and the number of his name".

Both studies are in this forum, on this page.

 

[Zao is life]

Both studies are in this forum, on this page.

After finding it I tried to take in most of what is written in those posts (a very long OP) by speed-reading.

Again, it looks like conjecture to me, a case of putting things together and using those things to explain the meaning of other things that are only related in your OP posts in that thread by a thing called sin, and nothing more.

I asked if you have any proof of the things you assert about this subject and the mark of the beast or the number of his name, but so far you have provided only an analysis of all the conjecturing you have done, but no proof.

I don't claim to know what the mark of the beast is though, nor do I claim to be a steward of any mysteries, therefore I can bear what you say in mind, though you have provided no proof except your own conjecturing that has produced what appears to be your own personal interpretation, i.e a created formula produced by your own conjecturing, molded to conform with your image of "the mark of the beast and the number of his name", as well as to whether or not "o antichristos" (the antichrist) is still coming, as opposed to the antichrist spirit and the many antichrists that have already come.

Respectfully, nothing you have said so far is very convincing.

I'm just thankful to my Savior Jesus that I do not pretend to myself to know what the mark of the beast and the number of his name is, nor do I know what his name is.

I only know that a "beast" in Daniel refers to a kingdom, that Revelation's beast is likened to a leopard, a bear and a lion - the same symbols used by Daniel to describe the Middle Eastern Empires of Alexander the Great, and Persia, and Babylon. I know that that beast had existed before John received the Revelation, did not exist when John received the Revelation, and that John was told that it will ascend from the abyss and go to perdition,

and that the ten kings whom John was told will reign contemporaneously with it, had not yet come.

- and I know the above things mentioned in the above two paragraphs because it is written, and I did not need to use conjecture to mold my interpretation of it in such a way as to make it conform to anything that is not written, or anything that I wrote myself into my own mind.

Your interpretations of these things, on the other hand,

are not written.​

 

[tailgator]

Where do you find the United States in prophecy, and where is Donald Trump mentioned in prophecy?

I'm not going to show you.
I like keeping some things to myself ,to people who often say I'm wrong .

 

[tailgator]

Prophecy shows that many of the saints would be overcome and carried away by the flood that proceeded out of the Serpents mouth.
Revelation 12:15
And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

This is why later on you see the harlot church being carried by the scarlet colored beast.

Revelation 17:3
So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns

The saints im talking about being imprisoned and killed are the ones who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 12
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


Jesus actually commands these saints to remain in Israel and to not go into the way of the gentiles in the gospel.
He tells them how they will not buy anything with money and how they will be persecuted throughout all the cities of Israel up to the day he comes.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

After finding it I tried to take in most of what is written in those posts (a very long OP) by speed-reading.

Again, it looks like conjecture to me, a case of putting things together and using those things to explain the meaning of other things that are only related in your OP posts in that thread by a thing called sin, and nothing more.

I asked if you have any proof of the things you assert about this subject and the mark of the beast or the number of his name, but so far you have provided only an analysis of all the conjecturing you have done, but no proof.

I don't claim to know what the mark of the beast is though, nor do I claim to be a steward of any mysteries, therefore I can bear what you say in mind, though you have provided no proof except your own conjecturing that has produced what appears to be your own personal interpretation, i.e a created formula produced by your own conjecturing, molded to conform with your image of "the mark of the beast and the number of his name", as well as to whether or not "o antichristos" (the antichrist) is still coming, as opposed to the antichrist spirit and the many antichrists that have already come.

Respectfully, nothing you have said so far is very convincing.

I'm just thankful to my Savior Jesus that I do not pretend to myself to know what the mark of the beast and the number of his name is, nor do I know what his name is.

I only know that a "beast" in Daniel refers to a kingdom, that Revelation's beast is likened to a leopard, a bear and a lion - the same symbols used by Daniel to describe the Middle Eastern Empires of Alexander the Great, and Persia, and Babylon. I know that that beast had existed before John received the Revelation, did not exist when John received the Revelation, and that John was told that it will ascend from the abyss and go to perdition,

and that the ten kings whom John was told will reign contemporaneously with it, had not yet come.

- and I know the above things mentioned in the above two paragraphs because it is written, and I did not need to use conjecture to mold my interpretation of it in such a way as to make it conform to anything that is not written, or anything that I wrote myself into my own mind.

Your interpretations of these things, on the other hand,

are not written.​

Think of it what you will, but I received it from the Lord. That study if full of scriptural proof to confirm the message. The problem is now as it has always been, the natural man cannot receive the Testimony of the Spirit.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

I'm not going to show you.
I like keeping some things to myself ,to people who often say I'm wrong .

That’s what I thought. Lol