What is the purpose of infant baptism?

[Marymog]

When I go to Mass I keep hearing about how we should be loving to all persons and how much Jesus loves us.

Me exposing your false narrative about The Church and Scripture has nothing to do with how much Jesus loves us.

It is NOT loving to allow a person to bear false witness without calling them out on it.

 

[GodsGrace]

I haven't. I have always challenged false information on this forum....no matter who posted it.

As I said:
KEEP doing this....
As I said:
Protect your church and it's dogma/doctrine/disciplines
by obnoxious behavior...

INSTEAD OF
Spreading the love of Jesus the way He meant you to
in order to attract others to the Christian faith.

See, you don't even read my posts
or
You don't understand them.

In either case, posting to you is a waste of time.

 

[Marymog]

My dear Mary....
You should watch the news more.

MANY BISHOPS deny the authority of THIS POPE.....
I NEVER argued the authority of any other Pope...although some others deserved not having any.

See. It's IMPOSSIBLE to speak to you.
Rather dangerous.

Hey GG....We are not talking about "MANY BISHOPS". We are talking about YOU and the definition of Protestant. And it appears you are playing a word game which makes it difficult to have an honest conversation with you.

It appears you are saying that the Pope does have authority over Catholics. Soooooo that begs the question so I can better understand the word game you are playing: Do YOU accept the Popes authority over you?

Curious Mary

 

[Marymog]

As I said:
KEEP doing this....
As I said:
Protect your church and it's dogma/doctrine/disciplines
by obnoxious behavior...

INSTEAD OF
Spreading the love of Jesus the way He meant you to
in order to attract others to the Christian faith.

See, you don't even read my posts
or
You don't understand them.

In either case, posting to you is a waste of time.

Lol GG.....if telling the TRUTH by saying that I have always challenged false information on this forum....no matter who posted it is obnoxious behavior, then I am going to be obnoxious in every post.

I don't need to attract you to the Christian faith. You are already a Christian. Now, from one Christian to another, it is my and your duty to point out when our brother has sinned against us. I have done that by exposing your false information about me and The Church. You disagree with me.

According to Scripture, here is how we are supposed to handle this GG: Matthew 18:15-17

According to you @BreadOfLife I are just supposed to ignore what you have said and just show love toward you. Tough decision here. Do I follow Scriptures advise OR your advice?

Soooooo since we are in disagreement lets fullfil the instructions from Scripture. Which church would you like to take this difference to and fulfill Matthew 18:17?

Patient Mary

 

[Marymog]

Protect your church and it's dogma/doctrine/disciplines
by obnoxious behavior.

Yes, I will protect the teachings of The Church just like you protect your Protestant teachings.

Point out my obnoxious behavior or apologize.

Definition of OBNOXIOUS

odiously or disgustingly objectionable : highly offensive; exposed to something unpleasant or harmful —used with to; deserving of censure… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

I highly suspect you will not post any obnoxious things I have said or apologize.....Hopefully you will do one or the other.

 

[Truther]

Pagans and cultists like yourself are the only people I've ever known who pervert the nature of God . . .

All I am doing is obeying and propagating Acts 2:38.
You are right about one thing, they are calling those that obey Peter per Pentecost, cultists etc.
What a mess

 

[Truther]

Nope – I’m saying that YOU don’t seem to be able to grasp a simple idiom.

Here’s a question for you, sparky: “Stop, in the name of the law!!”
What is the “law’s” personal name??
OR, are you intelligent enough too understand that it simply means “as per the law”???

As per Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38) . . .

So you think it could’ve also been worded like this… Then Peter said to them repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of the son…?
Jesus name could’ve easily been omitted to satisfy the Roman Catholic Church of the future?

 

[GodsGrace]

Hey GG....We are not talking about "MANY BISHOPS". We are talking about YOU and the definition of Protestant. And it appears you are playing a word game which makes it difficult to have an honest conversation with you.

It appears you are saying that the Pope does have authority over Catholics. Soooooo that begs the question so I can better understand the word game you are playing: Do YOU accept the Popes authority over you?

Curious Mary

THIS is what you said in post 1520:

Because you were wrong on #3:

Merriam Webster dictionary (common definition of words) Protestant: a member of any of several church denominations denying the universal authority of the Pope (which you do)....

To which I replied:

My dear Mary....
You should watch the news more.

MANY BISHOPS deny the authority of THIS POPE.....
I NEVER argued the authority of any other Pope...although some others deserved not having any.



So you see, you do NOT understand persons.
My POINT is that you DO NOT have to be Protestant to disagree with the Pope.
MANY BISHOPS DISAGREE WITH THIS POPE.

Is that more understandable?

And, let's see where would I take a sinner?
Not to my CC because my priest there could care less.
Although he's a very nice person.

Let's see: I don't belong to a Protestant church.

So....
I think I might, if the situation warrants it, just point it out.

Not too many situations warrant pointing out a person's sins UNLESS THEY CARE ABOUT IT.

You see Mary, YOU are not going to save anyone - especially at the rate YOU'RE going on the Forum...
It's up to the HOLY SPIRIT....who knows much better than you do how to attract persons to the Christian faith.

 

[Truther]

Time for an English Lesson - AND a Bible Lesson . . .

The prefix "Re" implies that something is being repeated.

Acts 19:1-7
It happened that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the upper country and came to Ephesus, and found some disciples. He said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said to him, “No, we have not even heard whether there is a Holy Spirit.” And he said, “Into what then were you baptized?” And they said, “Into John’s baptism.

Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

They were Baptized ONCE in the name of (per) the Lord Jesus and received the Holy Spirit.

This was NOT a “repeat” of John’s Baptism.
There ends the Lesson, son . .

Let Professor Truther teach you an English lesson. Re per our discussion means to redo. Baptism that was not in the name of Jesus Christ needs to be redone.
Paul did this to the 12 in Acts chapter 19. All Catholics are not baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
You and your Catholic constituents need to be rebaptized because whatever you called baptism when you were a baby does not count.
Your baptism is worse than John’s baptism.

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes, I will protect the teachings of The Church just like you protect your Protestant teachings.

Point out my obnoxious behavior or apologize.

Definition of OBNOXIOUS

odiously or disgustingly objectionable : highly offensive; exposed to something unpleasant or harmful —used with to; deserving of censure… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

I highly suspect you will not post any obnoxious things I have said or apologize.....Hopefully you will do one or the other.

You are OBNOXIOUS in every post of yours...
nearly every post.

And you KNOW IT....that's the kicker.

And,
AGAIN.....I know you don't understand sentences well....

I am NOT PROTESTANT.

 

[GodsGrace]

@Marymog


For those who are reading along and may not know the meaning of
OBNOXIOUS:

---

hateful, odious, obnoxious, heinous, hideous, detestable

---

detestable, obnoxious, accursed

---

repugnant, repulsive, disgusting, abhorrent, loathsome, obnoxious

Yeah.
That sound like you and Bread.

 

[Marymog]

You are OBNOXIOUS in every post of yours...
nearly every post.

And you KNOW IT....that's the kicker.

And,
AGAIN.....I know you don't understand sentences well....

I am NOT PROTESTANT.

Same accusation with no evidence. Where is the apology?

You fit the dictionary definition of Protestant. If you are not Protestant, then what are you?

Curious Mary

 

[GodsGrace]

Same accusation with no evidence. Where is the apology?

You fit the dictionary definition of Protestant. If you are not Protestant, then what are you?

Curious Mary

Wouldn't you like to know?

And, as Michael Jackson once said:

TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR...
AND MAKE THAT CHANGE....

 

[Marymog]

@Marymog


For those who are reading along and may not know the meaning of
OBNOXIOUS:

---

hateful, odious, obnoxious, heinous, hideous, detestable

---

detestable, obnoxious, accursed

---

repugnant, repulsive, disgusting, abhorrent, loathsome, obnoxious

Yeah.
That sound like you and Bread.

Lol....The definition you provided, which are synonyms for obnoxious, says 3 times that obnoxious is defined as being obnoxious. Thats funny....

It's pretty simple GG. Give the evidence or apologize!

 

[Marymog]

Wouldn't you like to know?

And, as Michael Jackson once said:

TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR...
AND MAKE THAT CHANGE....

Yes, I would like to know how YOU are not a Protestant when you are not a Catholic. But since you are, once again, refusing to answer, I will never know

I agree. We should both change.

You should provide evidence of an allegation. If you don't, it is a lie.

I should follow Scripture: Titus 3:10

Michal Jackson

 

[Marymog]

1. I brought up the question of baptism BEFORE and AFTER Augustine to both you and Bread.
Neither one has been able to reply.

2. I NEVER said infants were not always baptized. You both could stop with that lie.
I find it rather dangerous to speak to you.....I can't spend my time correcting what you THINK I said.

3. I'm not Protestant.

GG....In a previous post you said: Infant baptism became common practice after Augustine,.....even original sin came from him (Augustine) and thus, infant baptism.

What did you mean by that statement? I have given evidence that it was common practice BEFORE Augustine.

It appears you ARE saying that infants were not always baptized BEFORE Augustine.

Curious Mary

edited

 

[Taken]

My dear Mary....
You should watch the news more.

MANY BISHOPS deny the authority of THIS POPE.....
I NEVER argued the authority of any other Pope...although some others deserved not having any.

See. It's IMPOSSIBLE to speak to you.
Rather dangerous.

This current Catholic Pope has raised some eyebrows….reminds me of some mega Protestant Churches….preaching what the people WANT to hear, feeling good about themselves, rather than the Truth.


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Marymog]

THIS is what you said in post 1520:

Because you were wrong on #3:

Merriam Webster dictionary (common definition of words) Protestant: a member of any of several church denominations denying the universal authority of the Pope (which you do)....

To which I replied:

My dear Mary....
You should watch the news more.

MANY BISHOPS deny the authority of THIS POPE.....
I NEVER argued the authority of any other Pope...although some others deserved not having any.



So you see, you do NOT understand persons.
My POINT is that you DO NOT have to be Protestant to disagree with the Pope.
MANY BISHOPS DISAGREE WITH THIS POPE.

Is that more understandable?

And, let's see where would I take a sinner?
Not to my CC because my priest there could care less.
Although he's a very nice person.

Let's see: I don't belong to a Protestant church.

So....
I think I might, if the situation warrants it, just point it out.

Not too many situations warrant pointing out a person's sins UNLESS THEY CARE ABOUT IT.

You see Mary, YOU are not going to save anyone - especially at the rate YOU'RE going on the Forum...
It's up to the HOLY SPIRIT....who knows much better than you do how to attract persons to the Christian faith.

GG.....Your POINT has nothing to do with what we are talking about. YOU say that you are not Protestant even though you meet the dictionary definition of a Protestant. THAT is what we are talking about. Not the billions of other Christians who don't accept the authority of the Pope. WE are talking about YOU and what YOU accept and/or reject.

You ATTEND a Catholic church and have your own doctrine/beliefs. That does NOT make you catholic. It makes you a Protestant that attends a Catholic church.

I am not trying to save anyone. And in our case I am only revealing your false allegations about the Church and me. It is up to the individual to save themselves. Accept or reject the teachings of the Church, which is the pillar and foundation of truth. Accept or reject the decisions of The Church when you have a disagreement with your brother. If you reject the decision of The Church you are kicked out of The Church.....just like Scripture says.

Mary

 

[Marymog]

This current Catholic Pope has raised some eyebrows….reminds me of some mega Protestant Churches….preaching what the people WANT to hear, feeling good about themselves, rather than the Truth.


Glory to God,
Taken

Hey Taken,

He is not my fav Pope. What has he preached that people WANT to hear that was opposite of the Truth?

Curious Mary

 

[GodsGrace]

GG....In a previous post you said: Infant baptism became common practice after Augustine,.....even original sin came from him (Augustine) and thus, infant baptism.

What did you mean by that statement? I have given evidence that it was common practice BEFORE Augustine.

It appears you ARE saying that infants were not always baptized BEFORE Augustine.

Curious Mary

edited

Could you please copy and paste that post onto here.
Thanks