There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

[Stewardofthemystery]

As you can see from my graph, the 'season and a time' is literally Dan 9's 70 weeks. The 'thousand years' is the 'day' / 'year' represented from the 7th week to 62nd week (which is a length of 55 weeks - enough to span a year with an extra intercalary Adar II month).

Nope,

Daniel 7:11-12​

King James Version​

11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.(compare to Rev. 19:20)
12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for “a season and time.”

These verses in Daniel are speaking of this same event here in

Revelation 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone”

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Paul has previously identified "all Israel".

Two Israels.

Romans 9
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

1. Of Israel:
Not all Israel
The children of the flesh
Not the children of God
Not the children of the promise
Not counted for the seed

2. All Israel:
Not of Israel
Not the children of the flesh
The children of God
The children of the promise
Counted for the seed

Only one of these two Israels shall be saved.

Romans 11
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Only the faithful obedient spiritual "all Israel", comprised of the believing elect beloved remnant from Israel (Romans 9:27; Romans 11:1-5,26,28), and believers from among the Gentiles (Romans 11:11), shall be saved.

Paul is talking about the flesh and blood children of Israel in Romans 11….

Romans 11
King James Version
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11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an “Israelite,” of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew

 

[rwb]

The end of this first tribulation period for the Jews is shown in Matthew 24:29 with the words "after the tribulation of those days." If you notice in Matthew 24:29 there is a pause after verse 28. Then Jesus says; "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken." =(6th seal sign)

Can you explain what you mean by a pause between vss. 28-29? After the tribulation of those days "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see" (with eyes wide open) IOW the appearance of Christ is visibly/physically seen. If this is another tribulation for the Jewish nation separated from another tribulation period to come why was Christ not seen physically coming as He says He shall? The end of "those days" written as "great tribulation" began with the first advent of Christ that shall not end before the last trumpet sounds.

Matthew 24:29-31 (KJV) Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Breaking this into smaller bits hoping to make the replies a little more manageable.

 

[rwb]

Paul is talking about the flesh and blood children of Israel in Romans 11….

Romans 11​

King James Version​

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11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an “Israelite,” of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew

If that is true, then Paul is contradicting himself. You're reading this passage in isolation without taking into consideration how Paul has already told us that only "the remnant of Israel shall be saved."

Romans 9:27 (KJV) Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

Paul clearly writes of Israel of the flesh that shall be saved are only the people whom God foreknew. They alone of the seed (Christ) of Abraham, including Paul himself of the tribe of Benjamin, God has not cast away. The rest are cast away by God so long as they remain in unbelief!

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

The 4th beast is not made of the other 3 beasts. It is 'diverse'/ different from them.

When the 4th beast is burned, then the 'other 3 beasts are given an extension of life'.

Dan 7:11 Then I kept watching because of the arrogant words the horn was speaking. As I continued to watch, the beast was slain, and its body was destroyed and thrown into the blazing fire. 12 As for the rest of the beasts, their dominion was removed, but they were granted an extension of life for a season and a time.​

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The 4th beast is slain at the 7th Trumpet. Then the rest of the beasts (the lion, bear, and leopard) have their dominion removed.

It is the 'dragon' in Rev 13 that is giving them a throne - they have no other dominion. They have no dominion because the kingdom of heaven has arrived at the 7th Trumpet to strip them of their dominion.

Look at the body parts of the Rev. 13 beast

Revelation 13:2
And the beast which I saw was like unto a ((leopard,))and his feet were as the feet of a ((bear,))and his mouth as the mouth of ((a lion:))and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Notice the description of the first 3 beasts….

4 The first was like ((a lion,)) and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

5 And behold another beast, a second, like to ((a bear,))and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a ((leopard,)) which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

All these first 3 make up “the body parts”of the 4th beast in Rev. 13

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

If that is true, then Paul is contradicting himself. You're reading this passage in isolation without taking into consideration how Paul has already told us that only "the remnant of Israel shall be saved."

Romans 9:27 (KJV) Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

Paul clearly writes of Israel of the flesh that shall be saved are only the people whom God foreknew. They alone of the seed (Christ) of Abraham, including Paul himself of the tribe of Benjamin, God has not cast away. The rest are cast away by God so long as they remain in unbelief!

This is where Paul is getting the idea that ALL Israel shall be saved….

Ezekiel 37:11
Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are (((the whole house of Israel:)))behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

Romans 11:15
For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, ((but life from the dead?))


Hosea 13:14
I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: ((repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.))

 

[rwb]

This is where Paul is getting the idea that ALL Israel shall be saved….

Ezekiel 37:11
Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are (((the whole house of Israel:)))behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

Romans 11:15
For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, ((but life from the dead?))


Hosea 13:14
I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: ((repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.))

Scripture affirms that not all who are called Israel in the flesh are indeed Israel of God through Christ's Spirit. When we read of the whole physical house of Israel being dried up bones and without hope, how does that change what Paul has said regarding only a remnant of them being saved? How can we reconcile the prophesy of Ezekiel with the words of Paul so we have NO contradiction of Scripture?

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Can you explain what you mean by a pause between vss. 28-29? After the tribulation of those days "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see" (with eyes wide open) IOW the appearance of Christ is visibly/physically seen. If this is another tribulation for the Jewish nation separated from another tribulation period to come why was Christ not seen physically coming as He says He shall? The end of "those days" written as "great tribulation" began with the first advent of Christ that shall not end before the last trumpet sounds.

Matthew 24:29-31 (KJV) Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Breaking this into smaller bits hoping to make the replies a little more manageable.

When I originally wrote this study I was using a old KJV of the Bible, and between those verses there was a icon between the verses, like a pause. You don’t see it in new versions or in online versions, but my old KJV Bible written on paper had them.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Scripture affirms that not all who are called Israel in the flesh are indeed Israel of God through Christ's Spirit. When we read of the whole physical house of Israel being dried up bones and without hope, how does that change what Paul has said regarding only a remnant of them being saved? How can we reconcile the prophesy of Ezekiel with the words of Paul so we have NO contradiction of Scripture?

There has always been a remnant of Israel that has been gathered over time, but I believe Paul is saying in the end ALL Israel is going to be saved.

That is why Paul is so excited when he says…

32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon ALL.

33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

 

[covenantee]

Paul is talking about the flesh and blood children of Israel in Romans 11….

Romans 11​

King James Version​

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11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an “Israelite,” of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew

You're not accounting for Paul's identification of "all Israel" in Romans 9, wherein he declares that the children of the flesh are not the children of God, and not part of "all Israel".

Paul further confirms the identity of "His People" in Romans 11:5:
They are those in Christ, the "remnant according to the election of grace."

It is they who are not cast away.

Paul further identifies them as "His People which He foreknew".

Peter confirms Paul in identifying "His People which He foreknew" as the elect, those in Christ.

1 Peter 1:2
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

You're not accounting for Paul's identification of "all Israel" in Romans 9, wherein he declares that the children of the flesh are not the children of God, and not part of "all Israel".

Paul immediately further confirms the identity of "His People" in Romans 11:5:
They are those in Christ, the "remnant according to the election of grace."

It is they who are not cast away.

Paul further identifies them as "His People which He foreknew".

Peter confirms Paul in identifying "His People which He foreknew" as the elect, those in Christ.

1 Peter 1:2
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

I understand that not all Israel is of Israel, just as the Gentile converts who are born again of the Spirit are made fellow citizens of God ‘s true Israel.

But if God decides to pour out His Spirit upon the flesh and blood Israel after the fulness of the Gentiles comes in, then they are grafted back into the good Olive tree of Israel.

Paul said they are “beloved”of the Father and are of the “election.”

Romans 11:28
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching ((the election,))they are “beloved”for the father's sakes.

So if God has “elected”them before hand to salvation, who is to argue?

 

[dismas]

Nope,

Daniel 7:11-12​

King James Version​

11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.(compare to Rev. 19:20)
12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for “a season and time.”

These verses in Daniel are speaking of this same event here in

Revelation 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone”

The Dan 7 4th Beast is in existence before it gets slain... then it is killed, then we have the prolonged lion, bear, leopard.

Rev 19 is the killing of the beast from the sea which is the leopard, bear, lion, + a resurrected head = 7 heads.

Rev 13's beast from the sea is that Dan 7:12 lion, bear, leopard extension - after the 4th beast has been killed.

It goes 4th Beast, 4th Beast killed, then Rev 13's Beast from the Sea (which is the Lion Bear Leopard given an extension).

Please show me anywhere else that there is a beast slain (which is most definitely the 4th Beast) which results in the 'rest of the beasts' being given an extension.

After the 'thousand years' it is Satan that is released in Rev 20. This is not the 'rest of the beasts' (which is most certainly talking about the lion, bear, and leopard) - not 'Satan'. 'Satan' can be the dragon (per Rev 12:9). It is the dragon that gives the lion, bear, leopard + resurrected head a throne. Not the same entity.

 

[dismas]

Look at the body parts of the Rev. 13 beast

Revelation 13:2
And the beast which I saw was like unto a ((leopard,))and his feet were as the feet of a ((bear,))and his mouth as the mouth of ((a lion:))and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Notice the description of the first 3 beasts….

4 The first was like ((a lion,)) and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

5 And behold another beast, a second, like to ((a bear,))and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a ((leopard,)) which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

All these first 3 make up “the body parts”of the 4th beast in Rev. 13

I am well aware that these are the same beasts.

It is your job to tell me where the Dan 7 4th Beast is located in Rev 13, especially when Dan 7:11 says that the 4th Beast is killed, and THEN these 'rest of the Beasts' are given an extension.

What are the rest of the beasts? Are they not the 'lion, bear, leopard'?

So I ask again, where is the Dan 7 4th Beast in Revelation 13??

 

[covenantee]

I understand that not all Israel is of Israel, just as the Gentile converts who are born again of the Spirit are made fellow citizens of God ‘s true Israel.

But if God decides to pour out His Spirit upon the flesh and blood Israel after the fulness of the Gentiles comes in, then they are grafted back into the good Olive tree of Israel.

Paul said they are “beloved”of the Father and are of the “election.”

Romans 11:28
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching ((the election,))they are “beloved”for the father's sakes.

So if God has “elected”them before hand to salvation, who is to argue?

There are two different "they's" in Romans 11:28.

Never and nowhere in Scripture are enemies of the gospel ever numbered with the election.

Never and nowhere in Scripture do the twain meet unless and until the former as individuals accept Christ, and are then numbered with the latter.

Paul further declares:
Romans 11
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

The gifts and the calling are terms associated exclusively with those who have put their faith in Christ: His Beloved Election, His true Holy Chosen People: His Church.

Upon whom does God bestow His gifts?

Romans 12:6
Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;

1 Corinthians 12:1
Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.

1 Corinthians 12:28
And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

1 Corinthians 14:12
Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.

God's gifts are bestowed exclusively upon His Beloved Election, His Holy Chosen People: His Church.

To them, and to no others, His gifts are without repentance.


To whom is God's calling directed?

1 Corinthians 1:26
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

Ephesians 1:18
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

Ephesians 4:4
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

2 Thessalonians 1:11
Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:

2 Timothy 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Hebrews 3:1
Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

2 Peter 1:10
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:


God's calling is directed exclusively to His Beloved Election, His Holy Chosen People: His Church.

To them, and to no others, His calling is without repentance.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

I am well aware that these are the same beasts.

It is your job to tell me where the Dan 7 4th Beast is located in Rev 13, especially when Dan 7:11 says that the 4th Beast is killed, and THEN these 'rest of the Beasts' are given an extension.

What are the rest of the beasts? Are they not the 'lion, bear, leopard'?

So I ask again, where is the Dan 7 4th Beast in Revelation 13??

It is the 7 headed beast with 10 horns that goes into destruction ….

Revelation 17:8
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and “go into perdition”

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

There are two different "they's" in Romans 11:28.

Never and nowhere in Scripture are enemies of the gospel ever numbered with the election.

Never and nowhere in Scripture do the twain meet unless and until the former as individuals accept Christ, and are then numbered with the latter.

Paul further declares:
Romans 11
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

The gifts and the calling are terms associated exclusively with those who have put their faith in Christ: His Beloved Election, His true Holy Chosen People: His Church.

Upon whom does God bestow His gifts?

Romans 12:6
Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;

1 Corinthians 12:1
Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.

1 Corinthians 12:28
And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

1 Corinthians 14:12
Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.

God's gifts are bestowed exclusively upon His Beloved Election, His Holy Chosen People: His Church.

To them, and to no others, His gifts are without repentance.


To whom is God's calling directed?

1 Corinthians 1:26
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

Ephesians 1:18
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

Ephesians 4:4
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

2 Thessalonians 1:11
Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:

2 Timothy 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Hebrews 3:1
Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

2 Peter 1:10
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:


God's calling is directed exclusively to His Beloved Election, His Holy Chosen People: His Church.

To them, and to no others, His calling is without repentance.

Do you see the word “election” and “beloved”
Romans 11:28
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching ((the election,))they are “beloved”for the father's sakes.

So if God loves them and has “elected”them before hand to salvation, who is to argue?

 

[covenantee]

Do you see the word “election” and “beloved”
Romans 11:28
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching ((the election,))they are “beloved”for the father's sakes.

So if God loves them and has “elected”them before hand to salvation, who is to argue?

Do you see the word "enemies"?

Enemies of the gospel are never beloved and elected.

God's gifts and calling are never for enemies of the gospel.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Do you see the word "enemies"?

Enemies of the gospel are never beloved and elected.

God's gifts and calling are never for enemies of the gospel.

We were all at one time “enemies” until God showed us mercy and grace.

Romans 5:10
For if, when ((we were enemies,))we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Colossians 1:21
And you, that were sometime alienated and ((enemies))in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

 

[covenantee]

We were all at one time “enemies” until God showed us mercy and grace.

Romans 5:10
For if, when ((we were enemies,))we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Colossians 1:21
And you, that were sometime alienated and ((enemies))in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

Acts 16
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Acts 3
19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

Romans 10
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I read what you wrote but you are ignoring the “timing” of WHEN the Deliverer/Redeemer comes out of Sion to remove ungodliness from flesh and blood Israel. Per the words of Paul this event does not happen until AFTER the fulness of the Gentiles comes in.

Let's stop using words like "ignoring", shall we? I am not ignoring anything. I am going into great detail about how I understand all these things. Surely, you can see that? So, don't tell me I'm ignoring anything because I'm not.

You say that what Paul said in Romans 11:26-27 occurs after the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, but that is NOT what Paul said.

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

You are acting as if verse 26 says "and THEN...." or "and AFTER THAT...", but it says "and SO....". In other translations like the NIV it says "And in this way....". So, in verses 26 and 27 Paul was not talking about what would happen after the fullness of the Gentiles comes in as you are claiming. Instead, he was summarizing what he had previously said by indicating how all Israel would be saved.

Now, here is something I believe you need to address. What Paul describes in verses 26 and 27 is a covenant God made that involves taking away people's sins. What other covenant can that be than the new covenant?

Matthew 26:28 This is my blood of the new covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

The new covenant was established and put into effect by the blood of Christ long ago already.

Hebrews 8:6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises. 7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.

I'm sure you would agree that we need to interpret any given verse or passage in such a way that does not contradict any other verse or passage of scripture. So, with that in mind, why would you not want to interpret Romans 11:26-27 in such a way that agrees with the rest of scripture which says that the new covenant is the covenant under which people's sins are taken away. You are making the covenant of Romans 11:26-27 some other covenant than the new covenant which cannot be true.

I fully understand what has taken place with Israel over the past 2,000 years, no need to go there.

Apparently, I need to go there until you understand what Romans 11:25-27 is really saying, which is that the process or plan by which God would use to bring people to salvation, which started in Paul's day, as Paul described in Romans 11:5-14, would continue until the fullness of the Gentiles came in. And then Paul explained that the way all Israel (spiritual Israel - see Romans 9:6-8) would be saved would be by way of the covenant God made long ago (as prophesied about in passages like Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Isaiah 59:20-21) by which people's sins would be taken away and that can be no other covenant than the new covenant that was put into effect by the blood of Christ long ago.

Yes a “remnant” of Israel has been saved during that time, but that is not what Paul is talking about when he said the Deliverer comes out of Zion.

Yes, he is talking about that. He said that the Deliverer would come to turn ungodliness away from Jacob. Scripture says that He already came to do that, as we can see here:

Acts 3:24 “Indeed, beginning with Samuel, all the prophets who have spoken have foretold these days. 25 And you are heirs of the prophets and of the covenant God made with your fathers. He said to Abraham, ‘Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.’ 26 When God raised up his servant, he sent him first to you to bless you by turning each of you from your wicked ways.”

Peter said that Jesus already came to turn ungodliness from Jacob and we should believe that. What more can He do to turn them away from ungodliness than sacrifice Himself for their sins? Nothing. He said "It is finished".

A futurist interpretation of Romans 11, rather than an ongoing historical interpretation starting with the 1st coming of Christ until the 2nd coming of Christ, just does not work. It contradicts other scripture.

Here is more prophecy that confirms the “timing” of when the Lord/Deliverer comes out of Zion ( verse 16)…

Joel 3:9-16​

King James Version​

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9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O Lord.
12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.(notice the timing)
13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.
14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision.(notice the 6th seal signs)

15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.(notice when the Deliverer comes out of Zion)
16 The Lord also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the Lord will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.”

All the scriptures agree to the timing…

You are trying to relate unrelated scriptures. What does the scripture above have to do with salvation and taking away sins? Jesus isn't coming back to save people and turn them away from their sins, He is coming to bring His people to Himself and then destroy His enemies (1 Thess 4:13-5:11, 2 Thess 1:7-10, 2 Thess 2:1-12).

Revelation 1:7
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, (((and they also which pierced him:))) and all kindreds of the earth shall wail (mourn) because of him. Even so, Amen.

Paul said ALL Israel shall be saved…

Which Israel are you talking about? Please specify of which Israel in the following passage will all be saved:

Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” 8 In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.

Romans 11:26-32

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26 And so ALL Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: (((but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.)))
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them ALL in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon ALL.

You quote this without commentary? What do you think this passage is saying?