The 4 Eternal Destinies of Humankind

[Episkopos]

Understanding the four eternal destinies of humankind will change the way you read and understand the bible. This is an important teaching that puts things in their proper perspective, restoring an understanding of the ancient paths, and shedding light on the gospel and its purpose.The four destinies are laid out in the bible comprehensively from Genesis to Revelation. This teaching has long been obscured by a more popular religion that caters to the fallen nature of mankind. Isn't it time to return to the truth?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Understanding the four eternal destinies of humankind will change the way you read and understand the bible. This is an important teaching that puts things in their proper perspective, restoring an understanding of the ancient paths, and shedding light on the gospel and its purpose.The four destinies are laid out in the bible comprehensively from Genesis to Revelation. This teaching has long been obscured by a more popular religion that caters to the fallen nature of mankind. Isn't it time to return to the truth?

Well I do not have time now to go through a 3/4 hour video of yours. But teh bible clearly shows only two eternal destinies. Colloquially we call them heaven and hell.

But it is the new earth which the new Jerusalem comes down for eternity and the lake of fire where the lost face eternal torment.

Please give a brief synopsis of these other two destines you are postulating.

 

[Episkopos]

Well I do not have time now to go through a 3/4 hour video of yours. But teh bible clearly shows only two eternal destinies. Colloquially we call them heaven and hell.

The bible clearly shows us 4 destinies. And there is no heaven and hell duality in the bible. The way people are indoctrinated one would think the bible says.. In the beginning God created the heavens and hell.

But it is the new earth which the new Jerusalem comes down for eternity and the lake of fire where the lost face eternal torment.

Please give a brief synopsis of these other two destines you are postulating.

There is a holy city...the New Jerusalem, for the saints (holy).

The righteous live among the saved of the nations.

The unclean (filthy) are cast into outer darkness

The wicked are put to death in the lake of fire.


There are two judgments...from two resurrections...one for God's house (Bema seat) and one for the nations (GWT) with both winners and losers in each. 2X2= 4

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The bible clearly shows us 4 destinies. And there is no heaven and hell duality in the bible. The way people are indoctrinated one would think the bible says.. In the beginning God created the heavens and hell.

There is a holy city...the New Jerusalem, for the saints (holy).

The righteous live among the saved of the nations.

The unclean (filthy) are cast into outer darkness

The wicked are put to death in the lake of fire.


There are two judgments...one for God's house (Bema seat) and one for the nations (GWT) with both winners and losers in each. 2X2= 4

The holy city dwells on earth in eternity and all can go in and out from the earth.

Outer darkness, fire, Gehena, lake of fire et. al, are all varying descriptions of the lake of fire.

Teh fact it burns with sulphur insures it is outer darkness!

If one is righteous and saved then they are saints and holy!

Lost is lost and all that remains for eterntiy is the New Earth with New Jerusalem as its capitol and the lake of fire. Rev. 20:13-15

Rev. 21:8

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

and remember that before the lost are cast into the lake of fire these are first cast and destroyed:

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Death and teh grave are destroyed so when one is cast into teh lake of fire- they live their eternally in torment.

 

[Johann]

Understanding the four eternal destinies of humankind will change the way you read and understand the bible. This is an important teaching that puts things in their proper perspective, restoring an understanding of the ancient paths, and shedding light on the gospel and its purpose.The four destinies are laid out in the bible comprehensively from Genesis to Revelation. This teaching has long been obscured by a more popular religion that caters to the fallen nature of mankind. Isn't it time to return to the truth?

There are only two destinies, even as there are only two ways. There is no purgatory or third place. For every individual, it is either eternal glory with Christ and the redeemed, or eternal darkness and despair with those listed in Revelation 21:8—“the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars.”

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The Four Destinies of Mankind (part 2)

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1. THERE ARE ONLY TWO ULTIMATE DESTINATIONS.
You may have heard people say, "There are many different paths to heaven." But you'll notice that, in this passage, Jesus dispels that idea. There really aren't many paths to heaven - or "life". There's only one "gate" to life - not many "gates"; and there's only one "way" to life - not many "ways".

But I believe we can take it from Jesus' words that there is more than one ultimate destination. In fact, there are two - and only two. The first one that Jesus mentions is the destination of "destruction".

The Greek word translated "destruction" (apõleia) is one that can mean "waste". When a woman poured an alabaster flask of very expensive perfume on Jesus, His disciples were upset at her for doing so; and they used this word, saying, "Why this waste?" It gives us a picture of pointless loss. But it is also used to describe "ruin" or "destruction" or "annihilation" in an ultimate sense - "perdition" as it is sometimes translated. Paul, for example, used this word to warn about the dangers that come from a sinful love of money; "But those who desire to be rich fall into temptations and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition" (1 Timothy 6:9). The apostle Paul wrote of those upon whom God will show His wrath - "vessels of wrath", he called them, "prepared for destruction" (Rom. 9:22).

Jesus speaks here of an ultimate destiny - "destruction" in a complete sense; a state of complete spiritual loss and eternal ruin. It's a destiny that Jesus once described in horrifying terms as being "cast into hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched - where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched" (Mark 9:45-46; see also Isa. 66:24). No one spoke more in the Bible about the horrors of hell than Jesus; and here, He lets us know that there is a "gate" one may choose to pass through, and a "way" one may choose to follow, that will ultimately lead to that end.

But He also tells us that there is a second destination - the destination of "life". I believe that we should take Him to be referring to "eternal life" - that is, entry into our eternal home in heaven for eternal fellowship with Him in glory.

Throughout His sermon, He gives hints of the ultimate destiny of heaven: saying, "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven" (5:3); or warning that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, "you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven" (5:20). He speaks of taking care how we do things, "Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven" (6:1); and tells us to "lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven" (6:20).

The ultimate destiny of "life", then, is referring to an eternal home in heaven in our Father's house. And Jesus is telling us that there is a "gate" and a "way" that leads to "destruction"; and another "gate" and "way" that leads to "life".

* * * * * * * * * *
These are the only two destinies. There are no others. In another place, Jesus told us this as plainly as a thing could be said! Listen to His words. Do not resist them; because one of the things they do is confirm to us that there really are only two destinies. He said;

"When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on His right hand, 'Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.' Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?' And the King will answer and say to them, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.' Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.' Then they also will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?' Then He will answer them, saying, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me'" (Matthew 25:21-45).
Then, hear carefully what Jesus says:

"And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life" (v. 46).
There are only two destinies: destruction or life. There are no others than these two. That's why there are only two "gates", and two "ways".

 

[Johann]

There are only two destinies, even as there are only two ways. There is no purgatory or third place. For every individual, it is either eternal glory with Christ and the redeemed, or eternal darkness and despair with those listed in Revelation 21:8—“the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars.”

This is where your message comes from--

The Four Destinies of Mankind (part 2)

“He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.…

theomegacourseblog.wordpress.com

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1. THERE ARE ONLY TWO ULTIMATE DESTINATIONS.
You may have heard people say, "There are many different paths to heaven." But you'll notice that, in this passage, Jesus dispels that idea. There really aren't many paths to heaven - or "life". There's only one "gate" to life - not many "gates"; and there's only one "way" to life - not many "ways".

But I believe we can take it from Jesus' words that there is more than one ultimate destination. In fact, there are two - and only two. The first one that Jesus mentions is the destination of "destruction".

The Greek word translated "destruction" (apõleia) is one that can mean "waste". When a woman poured an alabaster flask of very expensive perfume on Jesus, His disciples were upset at her for doing so; and they used this word, saying, "Why this waste?" It gives us a picture of pointless loss. But it is also used to describe "ruin" or "destruction" or "annihilation" in an ultimate sense - "perdition" as it is sometimes translated. Paul, for example, used this word to warn about the dangers that come from a sinful love of money; "But those who desire to be rich fall into temptations and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition" (1 Timothy 6:9). The apostle Paul wrote of those upon whom God will show His wrath - "vessels of wrath", he called them, "prepared for destruction" (Rom. 9:22).

Jesus speaks here of an ultimate destiny - "destruction" in a complete sense; a state of complete spiritual loss and eternal ruin. It's a destiny that Jesus once described in horrifying terms as being "cast into hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched - where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched" (Mark 9:45-46; see also Isa. 66:24). No one spoke more in the Bible about the horrors of hell than Jesus; and here, He lets us know that there is a "gate" one may choose to pass through, and a "way" one may choose to follow, that will ultimately lead to that end.

But He also tells us that there is a second destination - the destination of "life". I believe that we should take Him to be referring to "eternal life" - that is, entry into our eternal home in heaven for eternal fellowship with Him in glory.

Throughout His sermon, He gives hints of the ultimate destiny of heaven: saying, "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven" (5:3); or warning that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, "you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven" (5:20). He speaks of taking care how we do things, "Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven" (6:1); and tells us to "lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven" (6:20).

The ultimate destiny of "life", then, is referring to an eternal home in heaven in our Father's house. And Jesus is telling us that there is a "gate" and a "way" that leads to "destruction"; and another "gate" and "way" that leads to "life".

* * * * * * * * * *
These are the only two destinies. There are no others. In another place, Jesus told us this as plainly as a thing could be said! Listen to His words. Do not resist them; because one of the things they do is confirm to us that there really are only two destinies. He said;

"When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on His right hand, 'Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.' Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?' And the King will answer and say to them, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.' Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.' Then they also will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?' Then He will answer them, saying, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me'" (Matthew 25:21-45).
Then, hear carefully what Jesus says:

"And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life" (v. 46).
There are only two destinies: destruction or life. There are no others than these two. That's why there are only two "gates", and two "ways".

May @amadeus see the light as he listen to this "another gospel"

 

[Episkopos]

This is where your message comes from--

The Four Destinies of Mankind (part 2)

“He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.…

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I had forgotten that I did that blog a number of years ago...the omega course! :)

 

[Johann]

The bible clearly shows us 4 destinies. And there is no heaven and hell duality in the bible. The way people are indoctrinated one would think the bible says.. In the beginning God created the heavens and hell.

There is a holy city...the New Jerusalem, for the saints (holy).

The righteous live among the saved of the nations.

The unclean (filthy) are cast into outer darkness

The wicked are put to death in the lake of fire.


There are two judgments...from two resurrections...one for God's house (Bema seat) and one for the nations (GWT) with both winners and losers in each. 2X2= 4

Incorrect--

Eternal Life with God
John 14:6: "Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'"

Jesus clearly states that He is the only way to eternal life with the Father.
Psalm 16:11: "You make known to me the path of life; you will fill me with joy in your presence, with eternal pleasures at your right hand."

God reveals the path that leads to eternal life and joy in His presence.
Matthew 7:13-14: "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

Jesus describes the narrow road that leads to life, contrasting it with the broad road that leads to destruction.
Proverbs 3:5-6: "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight."

Trusting in God leads to a straight path, symbolizing guidance toward eternal life.
John 5:24: "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life."

Belief in Jesus grants eternal life and a transition from death to life.
Eternal Separation from God
Matthew 7:13-14: "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

The broad road leads to destruction, illustrating the path to eternal separation from God.
Proverbs 14:12: "There is a way that appears to be right, but in the end it leads to death."

A way that seems right can ultimately lead to death, signifying eternal separation.
Jeremiah 21:8: "Furthermore, tell the people, 'This is what the LORD says: See, I am setting before you the way of life and the way of death.'"

God presents a clear choice between the way of life and the way of death.
Romans 6:21-22: "What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life."

The contrast between past sins leading to death and present holiness leading to eternal life.
Proverbs 4:18-19: "The path of the righteous is like the morning sun, shining ever brighter till the full light of day. But the way of the wicked is like deep darkness; they do not know what makes them stumble."

The path of the righteous is illuminated and leads to life, while the way of the wicked is dark and leads to destruction.
Conclusion
These scriptures underscore the existence of two distinct paths or destinies for humanity: one leading to eternal life with God and the other to eternal separation from Him. The choices made in this life determine which destiny one will ultimately experience.

 

[Johann]

I had forgotten that I did that blog a number of years ago...the omega course! :)

More like a "conveniently forgetting" but now I know.

 

[Johann]

More like a "conveniently forgetting" but now I know.

I had forgotten that I did that blog a number of years ago...the omega course! :)

 

[Hepzibah]

There were only two types of trees for food in Eden not four. Life or death (spiritual) The saved and the not saved.

@Episkopos John, who else has taught this or are you the first one after 2,000 to know it? Two or three witnesses required.

 

[amadeus]

May @amadeus see the light as he listen to this "another gospel"

Below is a writing of mine from several years ago which mentions three levels of Life [three heavens] and one final death. [I have made several revisions today to hopefully clarify.]

"Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." John 3:10-13

The only one we see [as per above verse] seemingly as a partaker or a resident of all three heavens would be the man Jesus. From heaven [where or what is that? and which one?] to hell [where or what is that?] came Jesus to suffer here as a man and to overcome as a man leading and opening the Way for us to follow.

But many presume our reward [if any] is to be at some later [after physical death?] time and in some other place. [Who is in hell now but everyone who is dead? Who is not dead now? Only those who have received (Life) and are walking in and with Jesus. Is anyone moving back forth between heaven (1st or 2nd) and hell now?] Who has attained unto 3rd heaven?

What do we have available to us now? What more will we have available to us once someone says those words over us "dust to dust" and throw the dirt over our faces?

Is not now the time? Is not here the place?

What time do we wait for?
"This is the day [Today!] which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it." Psalm 118:24

"Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls." Matt 11:28-29

And just where is Jesus now? Is not Jesus the Word of God? If He is not Alive in our hearts and growing there, why not?

Do we presume that when we eat His flesh and drink His blood it is all going to our stomach? If we are eating only bread made of grain and wine made from grapes then that is where they are going.

When we really eat his flesh and it is really quickened by the Holy Spirit [His blood?] within us, then where would heaven [which one?] be? Would we not be moving UP toward God?

Consider the three levels of the ark of Noah; Consider also the three levels of the Tabernacle in the wilderness (outer court, holy place & most holy place).

If we come to Him as a beast, a very unclean beast, are we not then able to see that first glimpse of Jesus in 1st heaven? Those who did not enter into the ark, would be dead... no heaven at all... unable to see Jesus [as He is] at all, not even through darkened glass.

But how much has our vision improved when the Holy Spirit in us has been allowed [no quenching the Spirit] to clean out the filth so that we might be clean beasts? [2nd heaven]

Ah but then what remains but the beastly nature which would, if allowed to lead, take us into sin again? Those things within this world that we are [not within, but are] that attract us to sin repeatedly?

"For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world" I John 2:16

When, and if, those things in the world of me also are gone, [the beast is dead] then would not I be in 3rd heaven, the place where no sin and no beastly natures can be at any time?

Pr 9:1	Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars:
Pr 9:2	She hath killed her beasts...

Everyone who has really repented even one time has perhaps moved from hell to 1st heaven although probably all like the ancient children of Israel have kept moving in and out [repeated sacrifices instead of only one final sacrifice].
Only by the power of the Holy Spirit in us may we enter 2nd heaven once things have been cleaned up. To enter 3rd heaven, [mentioned in scripture if we can understand them], the beast must be dead, for even those things within us that are attracted toward sinful activities must have been overcome. [See rewards of overcomers in Rev 2:7-3:21]

If all three heavens are here and now, who besides Jesus has already been a resident of all three? Where will our final abode be? What is the second death?

 

[Johann]

There were only two types of trees for food in Eden not four. Life or death (spiritual) The saved and the not saved.

@Episkopos John, who else has taught this or are you the first one after 2,000 to know it? Two or three witnesses required.

Below is a writing of mine from several years ago which mentions three levels of Life [three heavens] and one final death. [I have made several revisions today to hopefully clarify.]

"Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." John 3:10-13

The only one we see [as per above verse] seemingly as a partaker or a resident of all three heavens would be the man Jesus. From heaven [where or what is that? and which one?] to hell [where or what is that?] came Jesus to suffer here as a man and to overcome as a man leading and opening the Way for us to follow.

But many presume our reward [if any] is to be at some later [after physical death?] time and in some other place. [Who is in hell now but everyone who is dead? Who is not dead now? Only those who have received (Life) and are walking in and with Jesus. Is anyone moving back forth between heaven (1st or 2nd) and hell now?] Who has attained unto 3rd heaven?

What do we have available to us now? What more will we have available to us once someone says those words over us "dust to dust" and throw the dirt over our faces?

Is not now the time? Is not here the place?

What time do we wait for?
"This is the day [Today!] which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it." Psalm 118:24

"Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls." Matt 11:28-29

And just where is Jesus now? Is not Jesus the Word of God? If He is not Alive in our hearts and growing there, why not?

Do we presume that when we eat His flesh and drink His blood it is all going to our stomach? If we are eating only bread made of grain and wine made from grapes then that is where they are going.

When we really eat his flesh and it is really quickened by the Holy Spirit [His blood?] within us, then where would heaven [which one?] be? Would we not be moving UP toward God?

Consider the three levels of the ark of Noah; Consider also the three levels of the Tabernacle in the wilderness (outer court, holy place & most holy place).

If we come to Him as a beast, a very unclean beast, are we not then able to see that first glimpse of Jesus in 1st heaven? Those who did not enter into the ark, would be dead... no heaven at all... unable to see Jesus [as He is] at all, not even through darkened glass.

But how much has our vision improved when the Holy Spirit in us has been allowed [no quenching the Spirit] to clean out the filth so that we might be clean beasts? [2nd heaven]

Ah but then what remains but the beastly nature which would, if allowed to lead, take us into sin again? Those things within this world that we are [not within, but are] that attract us to sin repeatedly?

"For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world" I John 2:16

When, and if, those things in the world of me also are gone, [the beast is dead] then would not I be in 3rd heaven, the place where no sin and no beastly natures can be at any time?

Pr 9:1	Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars:
Pr 9:2	She hath killed her beasts...

Everyone who has really repented even one time has perhaps moved from hell to 1st heaven although probably all like the ancient children of Israel have kept moving in and out [repeated sacrifices instead of only one final sacrifice].
Only by the power of the Holy Spirit in us may we enter 2nd heaven once things have been cleaned up. To enter 3rd heaven, [mentioned in scripture if we can understand them], the beast must be dead, for even those things within us that are attracted toward sinful activities must have been overcome. [See rewards of overcomers in Rev 2:7-3:21]

If all three heavens are here and now, who besides Jesus has already been a resident of all three? Where will our final abode be? What is the second death?

There are NO 4 destinations but 2 brother--


Eternal Life with God
John 14:6: "Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'"

Jesus clearly states that He is the only way to eternal life with the Father.
Psalm 16:11: "You make known to me the path of life; you will fill me with joy in your presence, with eternal pleasures at your right hand."

God reveals the path that leads to eternal life and joy in His presence.
Matthew 7:13-14: "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

Jesus describes the narrow road that leads to life, contrasting it with the broad road that leads to destruction.
Proverbs 3:5-6: "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight."

Trusting in God leads to a straight path, symbolizing guidance toward eternal life.
John 5:24: "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life."

Belief in Jesus grants eternal life and a transition from death to life.
Eternal Separation from God
Matthew 7:13-14: "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

The broad road leads to destruction, illustrating the path to eternal separation from God.
Proverbs 14:12: "There is a way that appears to be right, but in the end it leads to death."

A way that seems right can ultimately lead to death, signifying eternal separation.
Jeremiah 21:8: "Furthermore, tell the people, 'This is what the LORD says: See, I am setting before you the way of life and the way of death.'"

God presents a clear choice between the way of life and the way of death.
Romans 6:21-22: "What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life."

The contrast between past sins leading to death and present holiness leading to eternal life.
Proverbs 4:18-19: "The path of the righteous is like the morning sun, shining ever brighter till the full light of day. But the way of the wicked is like deep darkness; they do not know what makes them stumble."

The path of the righteous is illuminated and leads to life, while the way of the wicked is dark and leads to destruction.
Conclusion
These scriptures underscore the existence of two distinct paths or destinies for humanity: one leading to eternal life with God and the other to eternal separation from Him. The choices made in this life determine which destiny one will ultimately experience.



The fact that one way leads to destruction shows the ultimate outcome of those who live lives independent of God. Often they seem very religious (cf. Isa. 29:13; Matt. 7:21-23; Col. 2:23)!

“Broad is the road that leads to death,
And thousands walk together there;
But wisdom shows a narrower path,
With here and there a traveler.”

I won't comment on what you have posted for now @amadeus

 

[Johann]

There were only two types of trees for food in Eden not four. Life or death (spiritual) The saved and the not saved.

@Episkopos John, who else has taught this or are you the first one after 2,000 to know it? Two or three witnesses required.

First-century Jewish rabbis, including those in the Pharisaic and Rabbinic traditions, explored the concepts of the two paths or destinies of humanity, often relating them to the notions of righteousness versus wickedness and the reward versus punishment that awaited individuals based on their actions. While their writings are not always explicitly framed in terms of "two paths," they do address related themes.

Key Concepts from First-Century Jewish Writings:
Righteousness and Wickedness: The general concept of two paths in life—righteousness leading to reward and wickedness leading to punishment—was prevalent among Jewish rabbis. The Talmud and other rabbinic literature discuss these themes in various ways.

Talmudic References: The Talmud, a central text in Rabbinic Judaism, discusses the destinies of the righteous and the wicked. While not always explicitly stating "two paths," it does reflect the idea of different outcomes based on one's life choices.

Talmud Bavli, Berakhot 28a: "The righteous are rewarded in this world and the next, while the wicked are punished in this world and the next." This highlights the belief in different destinies based on one’s righteousness or wickedness.
Talmud Bavli, Sanhedrin 90a: "All Israel has a share in the world to come, as it is said, 'And your people are all righteous; they shall inherit the land forever.'" This indicates a belief in a shared destiny of righteousness for Israel, contrasted with the idea that those not righteous face a different fate.
The Dead Sea Scrolls: Although not strictly rabbinic, the Dead Sea Scrolls from the Essenes reflect a dualistic view of the world, including the paths of light and darkness.

1QS (Rule of the Community): The text contrasts the "way of light" and the "way of darkness," depicting a dualistic framework where the righteous follow the way of light and the wicked follow the way of darkness, leading to different outcomes.
Pharisaic Views: The Pharisees, who were influential during the Second Temple period, held beliefs about the resurrection and the afterlife. Their views were often rooted in the idea that a person's actions in this life would determine their fate in the world to come.

Mishnah, Sanhedrin 10:1: The Pharisaic teachings include beliefs about the resurrection and the judgment of the righteous and the wicked, showing an understanding of different ultimate destinies.
Second Temple Literature: Writings from the period reflect similar themes:

The Book of Enoch: This apocryphal text describes the destinies of the righteous and the wicked, showing a belief in distinct outcomes based on one's actions.
Conclusion
First-century Jewish thought on the two destinies of humanity often revolved around the concepts of righteousness versus wickedness and their corresponding rewards or punishments. While not always framed in terms of "two paths," these writings reflect a clear understanding of different outcomes based on one's moral and spiritual choices. Rabbinic literature, the Talmud, and other Jewish texts from the period address these themes, indicating that the notion of divergent destinies based on one's life choices was an integral part of Jewish eschatological thought.

Second witness, from rabbinic sources.

 

[Episkopos]

There were only two types of trees for food in Eden not four. Life or death (spiritual) The saved and the not saved.

Eden doesn't represent the world but God's house. Very similar to the day of atonement where there are two goats...or the people choosing Barabbas or Jesus.

God's house is not the world. But His people are called out from the world. The world has its own judgment. The GWT judgment.

@Episkopos John, who else has taught this or are you the first one after 2,000 to know it? Two or three witnesses required.

Obviously Jesus. Although His teachings are NOT respected any longer....He should still be seen as reliable in stating how He Himself will judge the world. Jesus is Lord after all...in spite of His fall in popularity.

If you watch the video I read straight from the bible...

Of course I can't make people think...or read. But if people go through the evidence for themselves, apart from a previous indoctrination...then there is something to ponder and wonder at. Understanding the 4 destinies brings a great liberation...the truth sets us free...and puts us in a position to do something about the place we find ourselves in.

 

[Episkopos]

May @amadeus see the light as he listen to this "another gospel"

What part of Jesus's words do you find so offensive?

 

[Johann]

Eden doesn't represent the world but God's house. Very similar to the day of atonement where there are two goats...or the people choosing Barabbas or Jesus.

God's house is not the world. But His people are called out from the world. The world has its own judgment. The GWT judgment.


Obviously Jesus. Although His teachings are NOT respected any longer....He should still be seen as reliable in stating how He Himself will judge the world. Jesus is Lord after all...in spite of His fall in popularity.

If you watch the video I read straight from the bible...

Of course I can't make people think...or read. But if people go through the evidence for themselves, apart from a previous indoctrination...then there is something to ponder and wonder at. Understanding the 4 destinies brings a great liberation...the truth sets us free...and puts us in a position to do something about the place we find ourselves in.

Those who seek to discern truth and are guided by the Scriptures can observe how far you have strayed from the path of sound doctrine. The Bible advises that teachers should be careful and grounded in truth to avoid leading others astray (James 3:1: 'Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly'). As it is written, 'See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy' (Colossians 2:8). If your teachings do not align with the truth of Scripture, it would be wise to reconsider your role and the impact of your ministry (1 Timothy 4:16: 'Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers').

Consider carefully whether continuing in this capacity is in accordance with God’s call and the integrity of His Word

 

[Episkopos]

“He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.” Rev. 22:11

Notice the above words of Jesus. Now I have a rule of 4 whereby a four year old can count how many kinds of people there are. According to Jesus there are 4. Now, indoctrinated people will say they only count 2. So then a four year old has more reading skills than they. :)

 

[amadeus]

There are NO 4 destinations but 2 brother--

I won't comment on what you have posted for now @amadeus

No need to comment on what I posted at any time.

 

[Johann]

Notice the above words of Jesus. Now I have a rule of 4 whereby a four year old can count how many kinds of people there are. Now, indoctrinated people will say they only count 2. So then a four year old has more reading skills than they. :)

You are not qualified to teach brother--maybe your gifting is somewhere else--

Hebrew Terms for Two Paths--1+1=2
Psalm 1:6: "For the LORD watches over the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked leads to destruction."

Hebrew:
Way of the righteous: דֶּרֶךְ הַצַּדִּיקִים (Derekh Ha-Tzaddikim)
Way of the wicked: דֶּרֶךְ הָרְשָׁעִים (Derekh Ha-R'sha'im)
דֶּרֶךְ (Derekh) means "way" or "path," and it denotes a manner of living or conduct.
Jeremiah 21:8: "Furthermore, tell the people, 'This is what the LORD says: See, I am setting before you the way of life and the way of death.'"

Hebrew:
Way of life: דֶּרֶךְ הַחַיִּים (Derekh Ha-Chayim)
Way of death: דֶּרֶךְ הַמָּוֶת (Derekh Ha-Mavet)
דֶּרֶךְ (Derekh) here also means "way" or "path," with חַיִּים (Chayim) meaning "life" and מָּוֶת (Mavet) meaning "death."
Proverbs 14:12: "There is a way that appears to be right, but in the end it leads to death."

Hebrew:
Way: דֶּרֶךְ (Derekh)
Death: מָּוֶת (Mavet)
This verse speaks of a path that seems right but ultimately leads to death, emphasizing the importance of true wisdom.
Greek Terms for Two Paths
Matthew 7:13-14: "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

Greek:
Narrow gate: πυλὴ στενὴ (Pylē Stenē)
Broad road: ὁδὸς πλατύς (Hodos Platys)
Narrow road: ὁδὸς στενὴ (Hodos Stenē)
Destruction: ἀπώλεια (Apōleia)
Life: ζωή (Zōē)
Ὁδὸς (Hodos) means "way" or "road," indicating a manner or direction of life.
Proverbs 4:18-19: "The path of the righteous is like the morning sun, shining ever brighter till the full light of day. But the way of the wicked is like deep darkness; they do not know what makes them stumble."

Greek:
Path of the righteous: ὁδὸς δικαίων (Hodos Dikaion)
Way of the wicked: ὁδὸς πονηρῶν (Hodos Ponērōn)
Ὁδὸς (Hodos) denotes the path or way of life, with δικαίων (Dikaion) meaning "righteous" and πονηρῶν (Ponērōn) meaning "wicked."
John 14:6: "Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'"

Greek:
The way: ὁ ὁδὸς (Ho Hodos)
The truth: ἡ ἀλήθεια (Hē Alētheia)
The life: ἡ ζωή (Hē Zōē)
Here, Ὁδὸς (Hodos) refers to the way or path to God through Jesus.
Conclusion
In both Hebrew and Greek, the terms for "way" or "path" are used to describe the moral and spiritual paths that lead to two different destinies. דֶּרֶךְ (Derekh) in Hebrew and Ὁδὸς (Hodos) in Greek both convey the idea of a journey or way of life, reflecting the choices and consequences described in Scripture.

Hebrew Terms and Scriptures
Everlasting Life

Hebrew Term: חַיֵּי עוֹלָם (Chayyei Olam)
חַיֵּי (Chayyei) means "life" or "living."
עוֹלָם (Olam) means "eternal" or "everlasting."
Scripture:
Daniel 12:2: "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."
Hebrew: "רַבִּים מִיֵּשְׁנֵי עָפָר יִקָּצוּ אֵלֶּה לְחַיֵּי עוֹלָם וְאֵלֶּה לְחֵרְפַּת עוֹלָם" (Rabbim Miyeshnei Apha'r Yikatsu Eleh Lechayyei Olam Ve'eleh Lecherpat Olam)
John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
Greek: "ὅτι οὕτως ἠγάπησεν ὁ Θεὸς τὸν κόσμον, ὥστε τὸν Υἱὸν αὐτοῦ τὸν μονογενῆ ἔδωκεν, ἵνα πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων εἰς αὐτὸν μὴ ἀπόληται ἀλλὰ ἔχῃ ζωήν αἰώνιον" (Hoti houtōs ēgapēsen ho Theos ton kosmon, hōste ton Huion autou ton monogenē edōken, hina pas ho pisteuōn eis auton mē apōlētai alla echē zōēn aiōnion)
Everlasting Death

Hebrew Term: מָוֶת עוֹלָם (Mavet Olam)
מָוֶת (Mavet) means "death."
עוֹלָם (Olam) means "eternal" or "everlasting."
Scripture:
Revelation 21:8: "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
Greek: "ὁ δὲ δειλὸς καὶ ἀπίστονος καὶ βδέλυγμα καὶ φονεύς καὶ πόρνος καὶ μαγεὺς καὶ εἰδωλολάτρης καὶ πάντες οἱ ψεύσται, ἡ μερίς αὐτῶν ἐν τῷ λίμνῃ τῆς πυρᾶς καὶ θείου, ἥτις ἐστὶν ὁ δεύτερος θάνατος" (Ho de deilos kai apistos kai bdelygma kai phoneus kai pornos kai mageus kai eidōlolatrēs kai pantes hoi pseustai, hē meris autōn en tō limnē tēs puras kai theiou, hētis estin ho deuteros thanatos)
Greek Terms and Scriptures
Everlasting Life

Greek Term: ζωὴ αἰώνιος (Zōē Aiōnios)
ζωὴ (Zōē) means "life."
αἰώνιος (Aiōnios) means "eternal" or "everlasting."
Scripture:
John 3:16: As noted above.
Greek: "ὅτι οὕτως ἠγάπησεν ὁ Θεὸς τὸν κόσμον, ὥστε τὸν Υἱὸν αὐτοῦ τὸν μονογενῆ ἔδωκεν, ἵνα πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων εἰς αὐτὸν μὴ ἀπόληται ἀλλὰ ἔχῃ ζωήν αἰώνιον" (Hoti houtōs ēgapēsen ho Theos ton kosmon, hōste ton Huion autou ton monogenē edōken, hina pas ho pisteuōn eis auton mē apōlētai alla echē zōēn aiōnion)
Romans 6:23: "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
Greek: "τὸ γὰρ ὀψώνιον τῆς ἁμαρτίας θάνατος, ἡ δὲ χάρις τοῦ Θεοῦ ζωή αἰώνιος ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ τῷ Κυρίῳ ἡμῶν" (To gar opsōnion tēs hamartias thanatos, hē de charis tou Theou zōē aiōnios en Christō Iēsou tō Kyriō hēmōn)
Everlasting Death

Greek Term: θάνατος αἰώνιος (Thanatos Aiōnios)
θάνατος (Thanatos) means "death."
αἰώνιος (Aiōnios) means "eternal" or "everlasting."
Scripture:
Revelation 21:8: As noted above.
Greek: "ὁ δὲ δειλὸς καὶ ἀπίστονος καὶ βδέλυγμα καὶ φονεύς καὶ πόρνος καὶ μαγεὺς καὶ εἰδωλολάτρης καὶ πάντες οἱ ψεύσται, ἡ μερίς αὐτῶν ἐν τῷ λίμνῃ τῆς πυρᾶς καὶ θείου, ἥτις ἐστὶν ὁ δεύτερος θάνατος" (Ho de deilos kai apistos kai bdelygma kai phoneus kai pornos kai mageus kai eidōlolatrēs kai pantes hoi pseustai, hē meris autōn en tō limnē tēs puras kai theiou, hētis estin ho deuteros thanatos)
Conclusion
In both Hebrew and Greek, the terms for "everlasting life" and "everlasting death" capture the profound theological concepts of eternal outcomes based on one's choices and relationship with God. Chayyei Olam and Mavet Olam reflect these ideas in the Old Testament, while Zōē Aiōnios and Thanatos Aiōnios articulate them in the New Testament. The grammar of these terms underscores their significance in describing eternal destinies, highlighting the permanence of one's ultimate state.

I can give you many more examples from Scriptures but it would be a waste of my time.
Maybe you should delete your blog on Omega whatever? Start afresh?