The absurdity of Pretrib logic

[Spiritual Israelite]

Yeah, keep everyone confoosed
I had no idea you were amil.
No wonder your eschatology is off.

You discernment level of what others say about what they believe matches your discernment level of scripture.

If my eschatology is off then prove it. Put your money where your mouth is for once and do something to actually show what you believe. I have done that extensively and you have not. No one knows how or why you believe what you do because you refuse to show that.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Tribulations and Wrath FROM Heaven UPON the all the living “inhabitants” upon the face of the Earth is a 7 year period of time.

Absolutely God protects Christians those IN Christ…
The same way God protected Noah and his family…raising them UP off the Face of the Earth…BeFORE the Earth is Destroyed…!!



Your own merit is faulty. You are what you accuse. Gaslighter.

SI has gone total ghetto mode.

It is comical imagining him at a podium and cussing and screaming when someone challenges his error.
" OK ladies and gentlemen, we will go to a commercial, as we sort this out"
...all the time he is screaming in the background...

 

[rebuilder 454]

You discernment level of what others say about what they believe matches your discernment level of scripture.

If my eschatology is off then prove it. Put your money where your mouth is for once and do something to actually show what you believe. I have done that extensively and you have not. No one knows how or why you believe what you do because you refuse to show that.

Can you talk like a man,?
If so let's debate.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

SI has gone total ghetto mode.

It is comical imagining him at a podium and cussing and screaming when someone challenges his error.
" OK ladies and gentlemen, we will go to a commercial, as we sort this out"
...all the time he is screaming in the background...

LOL. Look at your own posts. Just a bunch of ranting and raving about nothing. Are you purposely trying to distract attention away from the fact that you are apparently unable to exegete scripture and clearly show how and why you believe what you do? How about you stop rambling and start exegeting some scripture. Deal? I'll stop and listen if you would actually do that for once.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Can you talk like a man,?
If so let's debate.

I always do. Can you? Exegete some scripture for me, please. Show me why and how you believe what you do. Please.

 

[MA2444]

I always do. Can you? Exegete some scripture for me, please. Show me why and how you believe what you do. Please.

No you don't.

 

[rebuilder 454]

I am not pre-trib rapture timing view, but anytime rapture timing view. You are not post-trib rapture timing view as you claim, but Amil rapture timing view. The Amil rapture timing view adherents do not incorporate any of the end times time frames found in the bible. Post-trib timing view adherents do.

Since you are Amil. Why don't you put forth what the Amil rapture timing view is - in your post, instead of confusing it with the widely known and widely defined post-trib rapture timing view. I am saying this as a positive suggestion, so others can understand what Amils believe.

There is the....

Amil rapture timing view - ??????????

pre-trib rapture timing view - before the 7 year 70th week begins.

post-trib rapture timing view - after the 7 year 70th week ends

anytime rapture timing view - before the ToD act by the Antichrist.

@ WPM, make the distinction of the Amil rapture timing view is - in place of the ?????????? above.

imo, I think you should say, "at Jesus's Second Coming". But don't call it the "post-trib" view.

Thank you for bringing clarity.
They lead people down a hamster wheel of opposition not being clear of their erroneous position.
Amil deserves its own thread.
Without knowing their position, and them being stealth about it, it is a glorified troll dynamic, as once someone adopts amil, or preterest, they take the actual debate into lala land.

 

[MA2444]

You discernment level of what others say about what they believe matches your discernment level of scripture.

If my eschatology is off then prove it. Put your money where your mouth is for once and do something to actually show what you believe. I have done that extensively and you have not. No one knows how or why you believe what you do because you refuse to show that.

And the lie detector said, that is not the truth.

 

[WPM]

A carnal mind thinks the gathering before the flood has Jesus depicting half of a group taken is actually Jesus mistaken about it

I do not know what you're trying to say here.

 

[WPM]

Thank you for bringing clarity.
They lead people down a hamster wheel of opposition not being clear of their erroneous position.
Amil deserves its own thread.
Without knowing their position, and them being stealth about it, it is a glorified troll dynamic, as once someone adopts amil, or preterest, they take the actual debate into lala land.

We are discussion the absurdity of Pretrib here. Your failure to bring clear biblical evidence to the table has reinforced the Op.

 

[rebuilder 454]

I always do. Can you? Exegete some scripture for me, please. Show me why and how you believe what you do. Please.

My position is based on pre-trib Rapture verses.
And that position is based on the gathering of the bride to heaven
So I am Bride / groom centered.
The gathering of the bride.
The Bible ends with the bride calling on the groom to come fetch her.
That is my overview.
Your turn.

 

[rebuilder 454]

We are discussion the absurdity of Pretrib here. Your failure to bring clear biblical evidence to the table has reinforced the Op.

Yes you are

No I am not.
Try again.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Please go here...

Amil, Premil, poster list

I am starting this thread for everyone's benefit. Please add your name to list of what you are - whether, Amil or Premil. Copy and paste the list from the previous post, so that the list grows as each person adds their name. Premil @Douggg @MA2444 @th1b.taylor @ewq1938 @rebuilder 454 Amil...

www.christianityboard.com

Yes if someone is amil or preterest, I need a heads up.
Otherwise I am at a disadvantage thinking I am on board with their position. When in actuality I tend to leave those two categories to their own discussion.
( grand canyon leaps are a waste of time, and most have such a huge investment in their deal, nobody, or the Bible is going to make a sliver of difference to their investment)

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

My position is based on pre-trib Rapture verses.
And that position is based on the gathering of the bride to heaven
So I am Bride / groom centered.
The gathering of the bride.
The Bible ends with the bride calling on the groom to come fetch her.
That is my overview.
Your turn.

LOL. Please show how and why you believe this. I'm not interested in just exchanging opinions back and forth without doing anything to back them up. If that's all you're interested in doing, then you can debate someone else.

 

[rebuilder 454]

If you have nothing of any profit or our unable to address the Op can you please excuse yourself from this thread? Name calling is no welcome QUOTE]

Then you are excused.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Yes if someone is amil or preterest, I need a heads up.
Otherwise I am at a disadvantage thinking I am on board with their position. When in actuality I tend to leave those two categories to their own discussion.
( grand canyon leaps are a waste of time, and most have such a huge investment in their deal, nobody, or the Bible is going to make a sliver of difference to their investment)

Amils are also post-trib, so we have every reason to take part in post-trib vs. pretrib debates as post-trib premils do.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I do not know what you're trying to say here.

And that illustrates the problem. He gives opinions with vague explanations and thinks that's enough to prove his case. It's completely ridiculous.

 

[WPM]

My position is based on pre-trib Rapture verses.
And that position is based on the gathering of the bride to heaven
So I am Bride / groom centered.
The gathering of the bride.
The Bible ends with the bride calling on the groom to come fetch her.
That is my overview.
Your turn.

You have been taught wrong. The bride is not gathered until Revelation 19, at the one and only future climatic return of Christ, thus demolishing your thesis. Revelation 19:7-10 tells us, “Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”

His “wife” is said to have “made herself ready.”

Ready, “for the marriage of the Lamb.” Whilst we (the Church) have been betrothed to Christ in salvation, the marriage will not be finally consummated until the bridegroom comes.

The marriage union is the glorification feat where we are eternally changed in order to enjoy God forever – this is the final act of redemption. This is the marriage of the Lamb. In short, a prepared bride is made ready to unite with a prepared bridegroom. For this climactic event she is arrayed in the righteousness of Christ. This is her worthiness for marriage.

 

[rebuilder 454]

LOL. Please show how and why you believe this. I'm not interested in just exchanging opinions back and forth without doing anything to back them up. If that's all you're interested in doing, then you can debate someone else.

Ok thanks.
Just letting you know my overall position.
...which obviously you trample and don't care about.
I am not really interested in talking to you either.

 

[rebuilder 454]

And that illustrates the problem. He gives opinions with vague explanations and thinks that's enough to prove his case. It's completely ridiculous.

Nope

Pure lies and you know it.
Stop lying