Reader Poll - Where did the Bible come from?

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Where did the Bible come from?

  • God wrote it Himself

    Votes: 2 6.5%
  • God wrote it through infallible human authors

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • God wrote it through fallible human authors

    Votes: 12 38.7%
  • The Bible was written by inspired human authors

    Votes: 19 61.3%
  • Some parts of the Bible were written by inspired human authors

    Votes: 5 16.1%
  • The Church chose from available writings to form the Bible

    Votes: 8 25.8%
  • Other - please comment

    Votes: 4 12.9%

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Carl Emerson

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Sure. But after reading the bible for 50 years I haven't come across this revelation before. Nor has anyone I've shared it with. But if you want to know more than I'm more than happy to share it with you.

Why not share it openly with everyone ?
 

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Thanks,

That explains why there is no agreement in the church, - LOL

And why the anti-tongues people call it babble.

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And why, in most cases the gifts don't freely operate...

And why the 'Mega model' is flawed.

And why you have a closed bracket at the end of all your posts :laughing:
 
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Why not share it openly with everyone ?
The Spirit of God revealed the mass repenting of all those outside His kingdom. The one who led the turning back to their Creators was Satan.

As I observed this scene, the Creators accepted them, reconciling every one of them to Themselves.

God the Father went further than that. While engaging with Satan, He reached behind Him and produced a throne to His left. This prodigal angel was shown mercy and grace of the highest order.

Now isn't that something amazing, that not only the angels in heaven will rejoice over, but we the firstfuits also, as we join them in worshipping our Creators. What a reunion party this will be! To be reunited with those we were separated from, be it us humans or angels. This is so exciting! My heart can't help but be filled with joy right now. Oh the love of God for Their creation is absolutely astounding.
 
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An absolute triumph of grace.

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Isn't this fantastic brother. They may have other events that surpass this one but at this stage I haven't seen or heard of any. I hope there are more triumphs of grace in the never ending life ahead of us.

This revelation has transformed my thinking, what I believe and how I view people, angels and our Creators. The hope I have now is light years away from what i had previous to this revelation.

My story of the Creators dealings with the majority of humans and many angelic beings ended with them burning in the lake of fire, being tormented constantly without end.

I had developed a sense of sadness, feeling sorry for satan, the devil. I began to see that he was fulfilling a role as a defeated leader who could never defeat his Divine Opponents, his sovereign Creators. I found mercy starting to grow in my heart, a compassion for those who opposed our God. To the point I started to pray for my enemies, my enemies I fought with each day. I don't know if receiving this revelation was my Creators response to my requests.

I can truly say now that I have a love for all these angels, including Satan while still being very opposed to them and the role that they are currently carry out. Love is a beautiful character to possess. Aren't we super blessed to be able to love our family, friends, neighbours and enemies. Most of all to have the capacity to see, know and love our Creators. And not to forget that They first loved us, even Satan whom They Created for Their pleasure and glory.

The Creators story is only in its infancy stage. The best is yet to come! Glory to God Who sits on His throne with the Lamb to His right and Satan to His left in His coming Kingdom.
 
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This revelation has transformed my thinking, what I believe and how I view people, angels and our Creators. The hope I have now is light years away from what i had previous to this revelation.
Have you created a topic where you explain your revelation? (or launch one)
You'll get a lot of abuse for it. But perhaps some would understand.
I'm in your corner for now.

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Why is the 'Mega model' flawed?
Do you mean mega churches?

How big was the church in Acts? (5,000+)

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In Acts 2 - they broke bread from house to house, and had communal meals.

They didn't operate like a 'Mega church''.


Consider the Megachurch parallels to Babel...

Gathering all in one place and building a monument to themselves.

Agreement but not unity.

Pride a driver.

Building material for their kingdom man made.

Overconfidence.


and the result...

The ratio of Budget to Convert... out the roof.

The least not heard.

Prosperity lauded rather than equality.

Leaders fall.

The Faith is misrepresented.

Jesus as King riding into Jerusalem on a donkey long forgotten.
 
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Have you created a topic where you explain your revelation? (or launch one)
You'll get a lot of abuse for it. But perhaps some would understand.
I'm in your corner for now.

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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll see where the Spirit leads.

I have already received some questions. I was expecting that. Those who know me have suspended judgement while others who don't, rightfully aren't sure what to make of it and have reservations.

The great thing is that the Spirit led me into this truth so He can easily do the same to others. I have no burden to carry here. No concern about the outcome of sharing this revelation that lies outside of the bible. I'm guessing either the contributors of the books of the bible didn't receive it or weren't allowed to share it.
 
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I have already received some questions. I was expecting that. Those who know me have suspended judgement while others who don't, rightfully aren't sure what to make of it and have reservations.
I can empathize.

The great thing is that the Spirit led me into this truth so He can easily do the same to others. I have no burden to carry here. No concern about the outcome of sharing this revelation that lies outside of the bible. I'm guessing either the contributors of the books of the bible didn't receive it or weren't allowed to share it.
I suppose you should try to support it biblically as best you can?

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The Spirit of God revealed the mass repenting of all those outside His kingdom. The one who led the turning back to their Creators was Satan.

As I observed this scene, the Creators accepted them, reconciling every one of them to Themselves.

God the Father went further than that. While engaging with Satan, He reached behind Him and produced a throne to His left. This prodigal angel was shown mercy and grace of the highest order.

Now isn't that something amazing, that not only the angels in heaven will rejoice over, but we the firstfuits also, as we join them in worshipping our Creators. What a reunion party this will be! To be reunited with those we were separated from, be it us humans or angels. This is so exciting! My heart can't help but be filled with joy right now. Oh the love of God for Their creation is absolutely astounding.
I prefer the Bible version, Lake of Fire and all.
 
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I can empathize.


I suppose you should try to support it biblically as best you can?

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Thanks again, but why would I need to do that? I would be going against what the Spirit has communicated and convicted me.

Don't fear humans. Trust in the Spirit. The bible is extremely limited in that it only contains such a small collection of truth. I don't need to mix in the old with the new as the old will impact the fresh new supply. Why would we get a mouldy piece of bread from our neighbour and add it to our fresh loaf of bread?

It's wonderful to receive and have the freedom to share new revelations with others. Then seeing it build confidence and boldness in us.

You would've read the stories of those led by the Spirit in the past and in our day. This too is available to us who are led by the same Spirit who are willing to be rejected, hated, despised, being called heretics, children of the Devil for the sake of Jesus and the Spirit of Truth Who now lives in us.
 
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St. SteVen said:
I suppose you should try to support it biblically as best you can?
Thanks again, but why would I need to do that? I would be going against what the Spirit has communicated and convicted me.
Two reasons:
1) Convincing evidence to others that your views are biblical.
2) To confirm to yourself that your views are biblical.

Don't fear humans. Trust in the Spirit. The bible is extremely limited in that it only contains such a small collection of truth. I don't need to mix in the old with the new as the old will contaminate the fresh new supply. Why would we get a mouldy piece of bread from our neighbour and add it to our fresh loaf of bread?
How have you confirmed that your views are valid?
The new should not contradict the old.

Matthew 13:52 NIV
He said to them, “Therefore every teacher of the law who has become
a disciple in the kingdom of heaven is like the owner of a house who brings
out of his storeroom new treasures as well as old.”

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Two reasons:
1) Convincing evidence to others that your views are biblical.
2) To confirm to yourself that your views are biblical.

Again, that ship had sailed years ago. I don't need to convince others and especially not myself that I hear my Creators communicating with me without confirmation from others directly or a book others have written.

My confidence is in the relationship we've developed over the past 40 years. If one cannot recognise the voice communicating with them over this time I would question the relationship, if they have one now or ever had one.

The Spirit is real, alive and more than capable of communicating with His creation.
 
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How have you confirmed that your views are valid?
The new should not contradict the old.

Matthew 13:52 NIV
He said to them, “Therefore every teacher of the law who has become
a disciple in the kingdom of heaven is like the owner of a house who brings
out of his storeroom new treasures as well as old.”
I'm certainly not a teacher of the law. I'm a non Jew, a Gentile.

I hear my Creators communicating with me and that is more than enough. This is new and I have no desire to salvage things from the past for the sake of it. If the Spirit reminds of things of old then I accept it from Him but again I don't go looking for it.

What do you mean when you said, The new should not contradict the old?

And out of curiosity, who told you that? Did the Spirit tell you this?
 
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I have found that while trusting the spirit of God to teach me, He validates scripture passages so that there is no conflict with "the oldest existing manuscripts" and reveals flaws in translations. This kind of study requires time, effort, and diligence. I have not seen any case of trusting God and conflicting passages when closely examined. That certainly does NOT means that there will not be people attacking posts that reveal when I have learned. On the contrary, the insults and accusations are common.
 
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