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So everyone that wear jeans and Trainers is messy.
My son’s car is messy because he is working hard as a carpenter and taking care of his children. His house is tidy. My sons house is tidy , he wears trainers and jeans but his garden is messy because he works long hours to pay the bills.
It’s sometimes about priorities what’s the old saying ‘ you shouldn’t judge a book by its cover ‘ !!
I've worked as a carpenter before, and my car and truck were very organized. I've also done maintenance and plumbing work and my truck was organized and clean. I've raised my children at the same time and my house was clean and organized. It's not a magic pill, it's in the mindset of being organized. Do not say, "I'm too tired" to clean it up. Just do it and don't think about it.
 

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I've worked as a carpenter before, and my car and truck were very organized. I've also done maintenance and plumbing work and my truck was organized and clean. I've raised my children at the same time and my house was clean and organized. It's not a magic pill, it's in the mindset of being organized. Do not say, "I'm too tired" to clean it up. Just do it and don't think about it.
Good for you - you can place yourself above my son , earn a brownie point.
 

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When I see a messy yard, I know the inside of the house is messy too. It is all a reflection of you. If your car Is messy inside of it, then your life is messy too. How you dress reflects what's on the inside of you.
My outside space is very messy these days as I can no longer do the gardening but inside my house is clean and tidy. Also a person can be clean and tidy whilst wearing jeans and and a jumper.
 
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My outside space is very messy these days as I can no longer do the gardening but inside my house is clean and tidy. Also a person can be clean and tidy whilst wearing jeans and and a jumper.
Hmm. But your outside space is an extension of the inside space. So if its clean and tidy inside, can't you clean up the outside too? If that were me, and I can't, then I'd find a kid that needs some money to clean it up for me.
 

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Hmm. But your outside space is an extension of the inside space. So if its clean and tidy inside, can't you clean up the outside too? If that were me, and I can't, then I'd find a kid that needs some money to clean it up for me.
Isn't that a bit judgemental, specially without know my full circumstances? I have paid gardeners to tidy it up with the promise that they will come once a month to maintain it. But they never do and then the garden get overgrown and weedy again and that money I spent is just wasted so I wont do it any more. my gardens are heavily planted and most 'kids' don't know a plant from a weed. I used to look after both of them but can only do so much these days as I am 82. I can still prune the shrubs in the back to keep the path clear but then need help binning all the waste. My front garden is a different matter. It is on a number of levels with twenty steps from the road up to the front door, so sadly my lovely garden has to be neglected. My son comes and keeps the steps clear every now and then.
 
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Isn't that a bit judgemental, specially without know my full circumstances? I have paid gardeners to tidy it up with the promise that they will come once a month to maintain it. But they never do and then the garden get overgrown and weedy again and that money I spent is just wasted so I wont do it any more. my gardens are heavily planted and most 'kids' don't know a plant from a weed. I used to look after both of them but can only do so much these days as I am 82. I can still prune the shrubs in the back to keep the path clear but then need help binning all the waste. My front garden is a different matter. It is on a number of levels with twenty steps from the road up to the front door, so sadly my lovely garden has to be neglected. My son comes and keeps the steps clear every now and then.
Perhaps Rockerduck should provide you with the help to keep something up to the standard he has chosen to place on everyone. I know for a fact you use to keep your garden in good order and that if you could do that now you would , would suspect it bothers you that you can’t do it xxxxx
 

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Isn't that a bit judgemental, specially without know my full circumstances? I have paid gardeners to tidy it up with the promise that they will come once a month to maintain it. But they never do and then the garden get overgrown and weedy again and that money I spent is just wasted so I wont do it any more. my gardens are heavily planted and most 'kids' don't know a plant from a weed. I used to look after both of them but can only do so much these days as I am 82. I can still prune the shrubs in the back to keep the path clear but then need help binning all the waste. My front garden is a different matter. It is on a number of levels with twenty steps from the road up to the front door, so sadly my lovely garden has to be neglected. My son comes and keeps the steps clear every now and then.
Well its tough for me to cut the grass. I hire these landscape guys to cut my grass. They are reliable. I hire a grass chemical company that takes care of fertilizing and weeds. They show up regularly. When I can't do something, I have to hire it done. I can't do concrete work anymore, but I hired a concrete company to pour me a new sidewalk. Getting old is fun, but the work isn't. My yard looks fantastic and Glorifies God.
 

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No one ever said the outside of the cup is all that matters. Doubtful that Jesus had a "Sunday best" outfit. And that's the point. Choice.

What does it say when you choose to dress down at a serious event?
I think that depends on who is taking the notes on the clothing another. I don't think that God cares, as He is looking soley at our hearts.
 

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Perhaps Rockerduck should provide you with the help to keep something up to the standard he has chosen to place on everyone. I know for a fact you use to keep your garden in good order and that if you could do that now you would , would suspect it bothers you that you can’t do it xxxxx
It does bother me @Rita - before we came here we lived in a two up two down on a main road with nothing between our front door and the pavement. When we made the decision to move I prayed and ask God for somewhere with a garden. And I have two forty foot gardens - that's lot of garden for anybody but I always loved them. i look out at at them now think , 'well they are still green and the birds come.;
 

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I think that depends on who is taking the notes on the clothing another. I don't think that God cares, as He is looking soley at our hearts.
Yes, He looks at the heart and intent. For example, you can say I love the Lord, but I don't feel like dressing up today. OR, you can say I love the Lord, this is the best I have for Your Glory today. Your best can be a clean pair of old jeans and it's your best.
 

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Well its tough for me to cut the grass. I hire these landscape guys to cut my grass. They are reliable. I hire a grass chemical company that takes care of fertilizing and weeds. They show up regularly. When I can't do something, I have to hire it done. I can't do concrete work anymore, but I hired a concrete company to pour me a new sidewalk. Getting old is fun, but the work isn't. My yard looks fantastic and Glorifies God.
Well good for you @Rockerduck As I said I have hired a gardener, in fact I have hired more than one, but they have not been reliable and I don't have a limitless bank balance.

The first picture is of my back garden. When I came her it was nothing but a scruffy 40' lawn with a tarmac path. What the pic shows is what we have done to it. No help, no gardeners - all the planting and the crazy paved path are what we have done.

The small pic is of the front as it was when we arrived. the LH pic is the top terrace of the front garden which again was just moss covered grass. My husband laid twenty new steps to our fron door, so as you can see we have not had to rely on gardeners. We did it ourselves. So somebody being so judgemental doesn't sit well with me.
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Yes, He looks at the heart and intent. For example, you can say I love the Lord, but I don't feel like dressing up today. OR, you can say I love the Lord, this is the best I have for Your Glory today. Your best can be a clean pair of old jeans and it's your best.
The what we wear topic is nonsense to me. I know plenty of men who own one suit & it's for funerals, blue collar guys who labor hard. They might have a few polos. For the most part they are in jeans and work shirts. That's who they are. These guys have the biggest hearts for Christ.
------------------------------WHATEVER WE DO WE DO IT UNTO THE LORD.----------------------------------------
Whether they are at work, in a store, at the ball field, visiting the prisons, helping the poor, or at a church meeting, they are serving the Lord.

Who are any of these people to decide their intent/hearts based on their attire??
 
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Yes, He looks at the heart and intent. For example, you can say I love the Lord, but I don't feel like dressing up today. OR, you can say I love the Lord, this is the best I have for Your Glory today. Your best can be a clean pair of old jeans and it's your best.
The Lord is with me every minute of every day. He sees me in my pyjamas. He sees me in the shower. He sees me when I AM dressed up to go to a wedding of for a special meal. He knows I love him and respect him. When we 'go to church' we need to remember that there may be people there who don't have nice clothes so we don't need to set ourselves apart by our dress we need to be approachable.
 
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The what we wear topic is nonsense to me. I know plenty of men who own one suit & it's for funerals, blue collar guys who labor hard. They might have a few polos. For the most part they are in jeans and work shirts. That's who they are. These guys have the biggest hearts for Christ.
------------------------------WHATEVER WE DO WE DO IT UNTO THE LORD.----------------------------------------
Whether they are at work, in a store, at the ball field, visiting the prisons, helping the poor, or at a church meeting, they are serving the Lord.

Who are any of these people to decide their intent/hearts based on their attire??
My son is a truck driver and has never own a suit, so he comes to church in decent casual clothes. I suspect not many men have suits today.
 
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Your best can be a clean pair of old jeans and it's your best.
For some it may be their best. If I wore my 'best' to a church gathering I would look over-dressed. And I don't want to call attention to myself in that way. People would think I was showing off.
 
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Honor God with your best linen!!!

Revelation 19:6-9​

English Standard Version​

The Marriage Supper of the Lamb​

6 Then I heard what seemed to be the voice of a great multitude, like the roar of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder, crying out,
“Hallelujah!
For the Lord our God
the Almighty reigns.
7 Let us rejoice and """exult
and give him the glory,"""
for the marriage of the Lamb has come,
and his Bride has made herself ready;
8 it was granted her to """clothe herself
with fine linen, bright and pure”""—
for the """fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints."""
9 And the angel said[a] to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.” And he said to me, “These are the true words of God.”

If you are there will you be wearing blue genes and a tee shirt?? Why not??
 

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In the NT people came to God as they were. Gods house was the temple. it was destroyed in 70 AD. He lives in houses made without hands..To judge or attack anyone because of what they wear is just more of the legalistic mindset that has killed the church
 
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In the NT people came to God as they were. Gods house was the temple. it was destroyed in 70 AD. He lives in houses made without hands..To judge or attack anyone because of what they wear is just more of the legalistic mindset that has killed the church
The early Christians dressed modestly and ate house to house often. As the dispora brought them to cities the dress changed as it always does. All through the decades it was modesty. Up until these last days, in the last 20 years, and only now, some women, and I've seen it, want to wear their most revealing top and tightest jeans imagined. Is that ok to you. I've also seen short dresses for women to show their legs. I have been in ministry for 40 yrs and this is the worst I've seen it, in the last few years.
 
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