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Dead—-God’s power works mightily towards you.
To me that long line is outside of ourselves(crucified with Christ— the power of God working —toward another. I personally don’t think we can fake or make up that long line outside of ourself, having nothing to do with that which is dead…but the outwards working (not meaning the outer man flesh) but Spiritual power beyond what is dead. To me we “wait” and have “patience” for but where that long line is of God work outside of what is dead is His giving the increase. Does that make sense? How can someone control or claim what transforms beyond that which is dead?
I think I understand now. We cannot fake the increase that comes from God, and that takes us beyond our own natural bounderies. We can't fake it, we can't say we did it, and that means also that we are waiting on Him to bring us along. Is this what you are saying?

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I hope those who 'like' John/epi took note of this between us:

John: Even Billy Graham taught that. (ref to the unsaved being accepted by God)

Me: "An unsaved sinner’s destiny is separation from God, a place that Jesus has called hell." Billy Graham. Billy Graham: The Hope of Eternal Life - The Billy Graham Evangelistic Association of Canada

John: Maybe you are looking for men to follow. I follow Christ.

I hope you have not missed this. I proved him wrong and see his response.

I would like to agree with those who are thinking that there must be something wrong with John and pray for him. I no longer think that way and feel that he has an agenda here. He is certainly causing confusion.
 
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I think I understand now. We cannot fake the increase that comes from God, and that takes us beyond our own natural bounderies. We can't fake it, we can't say we did it, and that means also that we are waiting on Him to bring us along. Is this what you are saying?

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Yes. It even scares me because I can’t fake it. I can ask. But it’s God who gives the increase. It reminds me when they grew tired of waiting they started to beat the servants.saying our master is delayed in coming.
 

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Lie # 11,478 God only judges by one standard.

There are two resurrections to come. The first judgment is the Bema seat judgment for a face to face encounter with Christ with HIS people. Judgment begins at the house of God. This is where people either get a "well done good and faithful servant" or else..a "go away I never knew you". This is where the works are evaluated to see if they are eternal or temporal. If they are spiritual or carnal. If they are dead works or works prepared in advance. This is not about whether a person is saved but whether they are to be vessels of honour and glory... or dishonour and shame. It's about the quality of the salvation they receive from the Lord based on whether they were faithful and righteous, or else faithless and unrighteous.

The second judgment comes with the general resurrection of all people at the GWT (Great White throne) judgment. This is not a face to face encounter with God or Jesus but a sorting by the angels who look for names written in the Book of Life. Whoever is not written in the book of life is thrown int o the lake of fire...to perish there. The saved of the nations will be populated with the righteous on whom God showed mercy. Their names will be present in the Book of Life. God has had mercy on them.
 
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This is where people either get a "well done good and faithful servant" or else..a "go away I never knew you".


Jesus does not send anyone out of Heaven.

Also, only the Born again, go to the Bema Seat, and they are already "In Christ"...so, they wont be going anywhere, except to heaven to stay.
 

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.a "go away I never knew you".

Jesus would never say to the "born again" that He didnt know them, as all the Born again are "The Temple of the Holy Spirit"

All the born again are "In Christ"..

All the born again are "one with God".

And Jesus is IN all the born again, as "Christ IN YOU, the hope of Glory"..

So, Jesus certainly KNOWS the : CHRISTian.
 

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Yes. It even scares me because I can’t fake it. I can ask. But it’s God who gives the increase. It reminds me when they grew tired of waiting they started to beat the servants.saying our master is delayed in coming.
Knowing I can't fake it gives me a release from responsibility for making it happen. Beating the servants, I like that analogy! It fits!

We have to be patient like the farmer is patient, the seed is in the ground, it's growing, look, there's a shoot! Soon there will be a plant, and fruit, and we just have to wait.

And in the meantime we walk where He's taught us to walk.

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Jesus does not send anyone out of Heaven.

Also, only the Born again, go to the Bema Seat, and they are already "In Christ"...so, they wont be going anywhere, except to heaven to stay.
You have to read the bible. Jesus does not engage people personally at the Great White throne judgment. These are judged out of a book, whether their name is written in it or not.

But God's house is personal. Therefore when Jesus says to many who say, Lord Lord...we did this and that in You Name...only to be rejected by Him...that is at the Bema seat judgment for God's people. If you can read Hebrew I could show you how that works...but alas, let's get you to comprehend some English first! ;)
 

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I hope those who 'like' John/epi took note of this between us:

John: Even Billy Graham taught that. (ref to the unsaved being accepted by God)

Me: "An unsaved sinner’s destiny is separation from God, a place that Jesus has called hell." Billy Graham. Billy Graham: The Hope of Eternal Life - The Billy Graham Evangelistic Association of Canada

John: Maybe you are looking for men to follow. I follow Christ.

I hope you have not missed this. I proved him wrong and see his response.

I would like to agree with those who are thinking that there must be something wrong with John and pray for him. I no longer think that way and feel that he has an agenda here. He is certainly causing confusion.
I think both things are true. There is a heart issue, and there is a spiritual issue, and the heart issue red-flags the spiritual issue.

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I hope those who 'like' John/epi took note of this between us:

John: Even Billy Graham taught that. (ref to the unsaved being accepted by God)

Me: "An unsaved sinner’s destiny is separation from God, a place that Jesus has called hell." Billy Graham. Billy Graham: The Hope of Eternal Life - The Billy Graham Evangelistic Association of Canada

John: Maybe you are looking for men to follow. I follow Christ.

I hope you have not missed this. I proved him wrong and see his response.

I would like to agree with those who are thinking that there must be something wrong with John and pray for him. I no longer think that way and feel that he has an agenda here. He is certainly causing confusion.
So superficial!

Billy Graham's position is very similar to my own. The title does not reflect the position. It's there as click-bait...because the truth can't be grasped by religious ideologues.

 

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Knowing I can't fake it gives me a release from responsibility for making it happen. Beating the servants, I like that analogy! It fits!

We have to be patient like the farmer is patient, the seed is in the ground, it's growing, look, there's a shoot! Soon there will be a plant, and fruit, and we just have to wait.

And in the meantime we walk where He's taught us to walk.

Much love!
I like the …as a farmer is patient. It’s weird for decades I wasn’t even aware I was sowing seed and nothing was seen that was growing until it started to spring up as you said …i was warned but I didn’t believe or never paid any attention to “reaping what you sow”. Until it was unmistakable I had panted and tended to bad fruit. I say this because I can relate to what Paul says here: Romans 6:20-21 For when you were the servants of sin, you were free from righteousness. [21] What fruit had you then in those things whereof you are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

My husband talked about this one night. About sowing and reaping and what fruit had you then in those things you are now ashamed of?

BUT I sure hope better things are being sowed. That is the difference now. Expecting better Fruit than that of the first.
 
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So superficial!

Billy Graham's position is very similar to my own.

And you could have responded by posting this video, but you chose to be personally derogatory instead. Now you want to retake the high ground, as it were. But your determination to put others down got ahead of you, and once again you reveal yourself in your words.

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I like the …as a farmer is patient. It’s weird for decades I wasn’t even aware I was sowing seed and nothing was seen that was growing until it started to spring up as you said …i was warned but I didn’t believe or never paid any attention to “reaping what you sow”. Until it was unmistakable I had panted and tended to bad fruit. I say this because I can relate to what Paul says here: Romans 6:20-21 For when you were the servants of sin, you were free from righteousness. [21] What fruit had you then in those things whereof you are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

My husband talked about this one night. About sowing and reaping and what fruit had you then in those things you are now ashamed of?

BUT I sure hope better things are being sowed. That is the difference now. Expecting better Fruit than that of the first.
Same here! I've sown much into my life that I regret now. Like you, I had no idea what I was doing. I too relate to that passage very well!

And there is another,

1 Peter 1:13-16 KJV
13) Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14) As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
15) But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16) Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

I'll say again that I can see the fruit of good seed sown into you, may God give you an abundant increase!!

Much love!
 

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So superficial!

Billy Graham's position is very similar to my own. The title does not reflect the position. It's there as click-bait...because the truth can't be grasped by religious ideologues.

Billy Graham only said that it is not his calling to denounce those who do not accept Christ. So maybe he changed his mind somewhat - more proof needed as he is not backing you up at all. You will have to produce something clearer.
 

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And you could have responded by posting this video, but you chose to be personally derogatory instead.

The opposite is true. I made a simple statement and was attacked for it. It's not my fault that I have a bunch of religious lawyers to contend with. AND...I don't see any video evidence to any of your claim. Mark you are SO disingenuous.
Now you want to retake the high ground, as it were. But your determination to put others down got ahead of you, and once again you reveal yourself in your words.

Much love!
False. There's nothing to retake. I speak in simple forthright terms to people who are a dishonest as any politician..and who lack basic reading skills.
 

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Billy Graham only said that it is not his calling to denounce those who do not accept Christ. So maybe he changed his mind somewhat - more proof needed as he is not backing you up at all. You will have to produce something clearer.
False again. Your pride is far too great to learn anything.

All I said was that even Billy Graham came to understand God's mercy after MANY years in His service. I have seen religious ideologues condemn him as being reprobate because of that. Much like my own treatment by the religious ideologues here.

It just takes one ounce of honesty to realize that the false hubris displayed here falls like a house of cards if one allows love and mercy for others in. So judge away! :)
 

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I hope those who 'like' John/epi took note of this between us:

John: Even Billy Graham taught that. (ref to the unsaved being accepted by God)

Me: "An unsaved sinner’s destiny is separation from God, a place that Jesus has called hell." Billy Graham. Billy Graham: The Hope of Eternal Life - The Billy Graham Evangelistic Association of Canada

John: Maybe you are looking for men to follow. I follow Christ.

I hope you have not missed this. I proved him wrong and see his response.

I would like to agree with those who are thinking that there must be something wrong with John and pray for him. I no longer think that way and feel that he has an agenda here. He is certainly causing confusion.
See how you are quick to judge and condemn...like others here who also hate God's mercy and the truth. You expose yourselves.