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We will be judged not for what Jesus did..

Christ's sacrifice on the Cross, IS receiving JUDGMENT, against OUR SIN... .found as the Sacrifice of Christ.

There is no "judgment for sin" waiting for the Christian, after they die, because "GOD hath made JESUS to be sin for US"..

"US"< = the Born again, specifically.

Saints walk in righteousness BOTH in their own

The reason a "saint" has become a "saint" is because their sin is forgiven, and they have been 'made righteous".. by God.
They have received "the Gift of Righteousness".

They dont "do that'.. ... because they are "become that".... as its a "GIFT of Righteousness".
 

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Blessings John! Is The Holy Spirit righteous? And is The Holy Spirit Holy?
The Holy Spirit IS God. God is Spirit. As such we can impute God's righteousness to the Holy Spirit. And we can impute God's holiness to the Holy Spirit. And we can be correct. To impute God's righteousness to a created being is actually idolatry.
 

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To impute God's righteousness to a created being is actually idolatry.

Its God who "imputes righteousness" as "the Gift of Righteousness".

This is why every CHRISTian, has become "MADE RIGHTEOUS".... AS : "'the Righteousness of GOD, in Christ"..

Welcome to : Salvation.
Its a "Gift".. and Eternal life is a "gift", and being "made righteous" by the "Gift of Righteousness", is a "GIFT"..
 
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The Holy Spirit IS God. God is Spirit. As such we can impute God's righteousness to the Holy Spirit. And we can impute God's holiness to the Holy Spirit. And we can be correct. To impute God's righteousness to a created being is actually idolatry.
Do you speak in tongues John, as in the gifts of tongues?
 

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Reader..

"Maran Ata", is the english translation of some beautiful Hebrew, and it means , in the context of Christianity, that we "walk in the Light".

Now, there is a misunderstanding about "walking in the light" that a deceiver will teach as "'you do that"., as if its some sort of self effort.

Here is how to understand..>>"being in the Light".. as a Believer In Yeshua.

"God exists, in Light",
"Jesus is the Light of the World"
"The KOG, is this Light"
"All the born again, are children of the Light".

See that last one? "all the born again are CHILDREN of THE LIGHT" <

There you are..., if you are born again.
There you are, already...
You dont try to "get there", and "reach for it". and "pray harder and jump higher"...

YOU ARE THERE, already, if you are born again... and the more you understand who you have become as 'IN Christ" and "ONE with GOD" = See that? ...... If you learn more and more about this... you are developing "spiritual warfare" weaponry... and that is because the more you understand who you have ALREADY become as a "New Creation", "IN CHRIST"< then the stronger your spiritual armor becomes and the more capable is the authority of the BELIEVER, regarding your STAND against the "wiles of the devil".. that are his spiritual and literal attacks.
 
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Christ's sacrifice on the Cross, IS receiving JUDGMENT, against OUR SIN... .found as the Sacrifice of Christ.

False. Every person is responsible for their own actions...especially believers. There is a judgment coming on the house of God..and it's gonna get hot.
There is no "judgment for sin" waiting for the Christian, after they die, because "GOD hath made JESUS to be sin for US"..
false again. It was evil men that made Jesus to be sin. God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself.

If you want to understand the context of Jesus and the Father in sacrifice...read the parable of the vineyard. Where it says...I will send them my only son....surely they will listen to him... Does that sound to you like the vineyard owner was angry at a sinful son and wanted to kill him?
"US"< = the Born again, specifically.



The reason a "saint" has become a "saint" is because their sin is forgiven,

False. A saint is one who is sanctified to walk as Jesus walked. God forgives wicked people. God forgives people more than we can imagine...all without taking it out on anyone, including His ow Son.
and they have been 'made righteous".. by God.
God takes a righteous person and MAKES him/her righteous. Two steps. In Is. 53 the Hebrew says it well... To make the righteous righteous. (Yatzdik tsadik). Elsewhere it also says (Hosea)..sow to yourselves in righteousness (human) UNTIL He comes and rains righteousness (divine) on you.

They have received "the Gift of Righteousness".

They dont "do that'.. ... because they are "become that".... as its a "GIFT of Righteousness".
No. A person is only as pure as they walk with God where He is in holiness. A person is only as mature as they have suffered and been shaped into the image of Christ as a HUMAN.
 

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Do you speak in tongues John, as in the gifts of tongues?
No. I have operated in many of the gifts..including interpretation of tongues...only once, in the assembly where I stood up and was speaking at the same time as the one speaking in a tongue. Everyone KNEW it was not from men.

But I am more prophetic in my gifting.

How about yourself?
 

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Romans 8
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Walking by the Spirit
(Ezekiel 36:16–38; Galatians 5:16–26)
1Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.a2For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set youb free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man, as an offering for sin.c He thus condemned sin in the flesh, 4so that the righteous standard of the law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit
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5Those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. 6The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace,7because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8Those controlled by the fleshd cannot please God.
9You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. 10But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alivee because of righteousness. 11And if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the deadf will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit, who lives in you.
Heirs with Christ
12Therefore, brothers, we have an obligation, but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. 13For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.
15For you did not receive a spirit of slavery that returns you to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” 16The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17And if we are children, then we are heirs: heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ—if indeed we suffer with Him, so that we may also be glorified with Him.
 

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Reader..

"Maran Ata", is the english translation of some beautiful Hebrew, and it means , in the context of Christianity, that we "walk in the Light".

Reader please. This man knows not much. First...Maran atha is ARAMAIC and it means the Lord is coming...or has come. Semitic languages use the past tense at times to denote the future. As in a done deal.
Now, there is a misunderstanding about "walking in the light" that a heretic will teach as 'you do that"., as if its some sort of self effort.

Here is how to understand..>>"being in the Light".. as a Believer In Yeshua.

"God exists, in Light",
"Jesus is the Light of the World"
"The KOG, is this Light"
"All the born again, are children of the Light".

See that last one? "all the born again are CHILDREN of THE LIGHT" <

There you are..., if you are born again.
There you are, already...
You dont try to "get there", and "reach for it". and "pray harder and jump higher"...

YOU ARE THERE, already, if you are born again... and the more you understand who you have become as 'IN Christ" and "ONE with GOD" = See that? ...... If you learn more and more about this... you are developing "spiritual warfare" weaponry... and that is because the more you understand who you have ALREADY become as a "New Creation", "IN CHRIST"< then the stronger your armor becomes and the more capable is the authority of the BELIEVER, regarding your STAND against the "wiles of the devil".. that are his spiritual and literal attacks.
No you are not. :) Remember...casting down imaginations...the first step in spiritual warfare.

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No. I have operated in many of the gifts..including interpretation of tongues...only once, in the assembly where I stood up and was speaking at the same time as the one speaking in a tongue. Everyone KNEW it was not from men.

But I am more prophetic in my gifting.

How about yourself?
And when you say prophetic do you mean to help members of The Body or what is coming on the world?
 

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You are confusing righteousness and holiness...again and again. The bible doesn't call Abraham a holy prophet. Yes, there were holy prophets...anointed by God to speak His words. But that was also based on the law. Remember the kind of mercy that Elijah (a holy prophet) showed to the 50 men that came to take him to the king. Maybe you can't discern the difference, but in the NT the prophets didn't call down fire from heaven. In fact, when John suggested that Jesus call down fire on a Samaritan village just like Elijah did....what did He say??? Of what spirit are you?
Its you confusing it epi .
You are making something so simple into something so complex .
the question is of what spirit are you epi . EVERYONE needs to go ahead
and examine and see for themselves what spirit they truly are of indeed .
I mean we all , both sides can say TEST the spirits
the question now is , Test the Spirits against what .
I mean for decades and for centuries , for even since the time of the garden
What was it that man should have done in the first place , BUT failed of course .
HEEDED WHAT GOD SAID pardner .
Not what another voice , another spirit , another etc said , BUT WHAT GOD SAID .
THANK GOD what HE said GOT RECORDED BY MEN in THE BIBLE .
AKA , TIME TO TEST ALL who do speak , all who do say , against WHAT GOD INSPIRED in the FIRST PLACE .
TO DO SO , I INVITE YA and everyone else to return to a BOOK I KNOW WAS INSPIRED BY GOD and a BOOK
that contains HIS WORDS .
OH but wait , it seems so many had either rather see that book as inspired of men
or maybe sit under some man that twists crap to them .
YA WANNA really KNOW if that voice in our head , them feelings we have
the doctrine men preach to us , IS REALLY OF GOD
GUESS WHAT EPI . OPEN BIBLE and everyone else OPEN BIBLE for yourselves .
But i bet you probably might even think already its bibolarty or etc TO DO SO .
I dont have to twist or to omit ONE THING that bible says .
IS epi right , is the pope right , are the mormons right , is the JW right
is the baptist right , is the methodist right
And how will one know if the LOVE they think IS LOVE is really OF GOD , or is it of the world .
BIBLE TIME EPI . BIBLE TIME .
and before you quaote me anything from the bible , REMEMBER WHAT BOOK you quoated it from .
For example when i often say WE NEED TO READ the bible for ourselves
many will say , WE NEED To pray , we need to etc . GUESS what EPI , that is already IN THE BIBLE
I KNOW IT . IT IS BIBLE TIME EPI . but go ahead quoat whatever you like
to try and prove me to be in error . Tell me and accuse me of trusting in a book and not GOD .
BUT I WILL SHOW YOU I DO TRUST IN GOD , cause ITS HIS INSPIRED WORDS in that book
GO ahead epi , tell me i worship and love a book and NOT GOD .
BUT I WILL SHOW YOU a simple truth . WHO YA THINK INSPIRED THEM WORDS
thus why WOULD WE NOT LOVE THOSE WORDS . and go ahead and tell me all day
whatever you like . call it legalism , call it INTO , call it whatever you like .
But know this , satan can say and quoate anything , the world has its version too .
WE BETTER KNOW whether its the worlds version , or is it truly of GOD .
AND FEELINGS DONT COUNT . cause even you know many can feel or think something to be true
and yet its not true . SO , HOW YA GONNA TEST . by what you feel , but what some man says is true
OR WHAT GOD SAID was TRUE . And believe you me , HIS INSPIRED WORDS are in that bible .
Your move epi .
 

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Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

To whom can we attribute the making of oneself ready? That is our responsibility.
 

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Its you confusing it epi .
You are making something so simple into something so complex .
the question is of what spirit are you epi . EVERYONE needs to go ahead
and examine and see for themselves what spirit they truly are of indeed .
I mean we all , both sides can say TEST the spirits
the question now is , Test the Spirits against what .
I mean for decades and for centuries , for even since the time of the garden
What was it that man should have done in the first place , BUT failed of course .
HEEDED WHAT GOD SAID pardner .
Not what another voice , another spirit , another etc said , BUT WHAT GOD SAID .
THANK GOD what HE said GOT RECORDED BY MEN in THE BIBLE .
AKA , TIME TO TEST ALL who do speak , all who do say , against WHAT GOD INSPIRED in the FIRST PLACE .
TO DO SO , I INVITE YA and everyone else to return to a BOOK I KNOW WAS INSPIRED BY GOD and a BOOK
that contains HIS WORDS .
OH but wait , it seems so many had either rather see that book as inspired of men
or maybe sit under some man that twists crap to them .
YA WANNA really KNOW if that voice in our head , them feelings we have
the doctrine men preach to us , IS REALLY OF GOD
GUESS WHAT EPI . OPEN BIBLE and everyone else OPEN BIBLE for yourselves .
But i bet you probably might even think already its bibolarty or etc TO DO SO .
I dont have to twist or to omit ONE THING that bible says .
IS epi right , is the pope right , are the mormons right , is the JW right
is the baptist right , is the methodist right
And how will one know if the LOVE they think IS LOVE is really OF GOD , or is it of the world .
BIBLE TIME EPI . BIBLE TIME .
and before you quaote me anything from the bible , REMEMBER WHAT BOOK you quoated it from .
For example when i often say WE NEED TO READ the bible for ourselves
many will say , WE NEED To pray , we need to etc . GUESS what EPI , that is already IN THE BIBLE
I KNOW IT . IT IS BIBLE TIME EPI . but go ahead quoat whatever you like
to try and prove me to be in error . Tell me and accuse me of trusting in a book and not GOD .
BUT I WILL SHOW YOU I DO TRUST IN GOD , cause ITS HIS INSPIRED WORDS in that book
GO ahead epi , tell me i worship and love a book and NOT GOD .
BUT I WILL SHOW YOU a simple truth . WHO YA THINK INSPIRED THEM WORDS
thus why WOULD WE NOT LOVE THOSE WORDS . and go ahead and tell me all day
whatever you like . call it legalism , call it INTO , call it whatever you like .
But know this , satan can say and quoate anything , the world has its version too .
WE BETTER KNOW whether its the worlds version , or is it truly of GOD .
AND FEELINGS DONT COUNT . cause even you know many can feel or think something to be true
and yet its not true . SO , HOW YA GONNA TEST . by what you feel , but what some man says is true
OR WHAT GOD SAID was TRUE . And believe you me , HIS INSPIRED WORDS are in that bible .
Your move epi .
My move OK. I take your bible and I raise you an actual reading comprehension of it. Go and read that bible. :) Your move.
 

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The first. I know what is coming on the church...but not the world. But then, what happens to the church has an effect on the world.
This thread is called Spiritual Warfare. You have seen the words I have spoken here on Christianity Board. Do you consider me your enemy?
 

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False. Every person is responsible for their own actions...especially believers.

The sin of every born again believer, has "fallen" upon Jesus, who is their sin bearer... because.."God hath made Jesus to be sin for (the born again) US"..

Now, down here, you, the CITIZEN..... will be held accountable for your behavior.. as you chose it.

What governs that, spiritually speaking ????

= A spiritual law that didnt end with the Law of Moses... regarding the Born again.

Its this spiritual law..>" you will Reap what you have sown"... "sowing and reaping".. "seedtime and Harvest"..

So, what you DO with you mouth, and what you do with yourself, is "sowing and reaping", and you WILL REAP a harvest, down here.

Whereas, the sin of the REDEEMED by the Blood of Jesus, will never find them judged..... and that is because the born again, are "not under the law, but under Grace"., and Jesus to them, is their "one time Eternal Sacrifice for Sin".

false again. It was evil men that made Jesus to be sin.

"God hath made Jesus to be sin for us"...

You just posted that God is "evil men".

You have issues, and they are your words and theology, and the commentaries and books you have studied for too long.
What you post... so often, is really really offensive to God's Grace and Christ's Blood,

If you want to understand the context of Jesus and the Father in sacrifice...read the parable of the vineyard. Where it says...I will send them my only son....surely they will listen to him... Does that sound to you like the vineyard owner was angry at a sinful son and wanted to kill him?

Never try to deny New Testament Salvation, with symbolic OT verses written to JEWS...

False. A saint is one who is sanctified to walk as Jesus walked.

A "Saint" is one who has been born again as a "new Creation in Christ".

They didnt walk as Jesus walked to become one.. they TRUSTED IN CHRIST, and their "faith was counted by God, as (Christ's Righteousness"., and GOD caused them to become a "SAINT".

Every "born again " CHRISTian, is a "SAINT, a "Heir of God.. .a "Joint Heir with Jesus", and has become the "temple of the Holy Spirit".

God takes a righteous person and MAKES him/her righteous.

God saves a sinner, by forgiving all their SIN, and then gives them HIS OWN Righteousness, as "the Gift of Righteousness".. and that establishes them as "made Righteous".. on DAY 1, of their Salvation, and for ETERNITY.

You can't become more "righteous" then "God's Righteousness", and the CHRISTian, has become ..."THE Righteousness OF GOD.. in Christ".

= Salvation 101, fella, ,....... and you are have no understanding of this at all @Episkopos .. .and you just keep posting to prove it more.
 

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Even demons believe in Jesus, and they tremble. Do you tremble or are you religiously smug? You demean what faith is. You have to come out of your indoctrination and actually seek the Lord. For real.
Even devils do believe and tremble , very true epi .
Many claim to BELIEVE in JESUS , but dont seem to BELIEVE HIM .
OOPSY . know what i mean epi .
MANY religoins even claim to believe in GOD .
but sure dont seem to BELEIVE IN or TO BELIEVE what HIS CHRIST SAID .
BINGO dude . IT IS BIBLE TIME EPI .
you really want to know who one follows .
You do realize how many different religoins and denominations we now have .
AND by golly they cant all be right .
IF we want to KNOW who is right , or perhaps are we right
I SUGGEST YOU OPEN UP THE BIBLE AGAIN .
Go ahead epi show me my error . bring your thoughts and watch and behold my friend .
HOW many , so very many in this world , its religoins , even the denominations of christendom
believe THEY ARE RIGHT , their version of JESUS is right
or what they believe to be GOD is the right one .
MANY DO EPI and yet wow i cant believe all the contraditions i see .
AND WORSE i cannot even now believe this verision of love i am seeing
that has been sent to UNIFY THEM . cause that version of love
SEEMS TO BIG TIME CONTRADICT the LOVE OF GOD . the only thing
that it has within it that seems compatible is its mention of doing good .
BUT HEY EPI , THE UNBELIEVING JEWS sought for righteousness too
but they forget to seek it BY FAITH .
BIBLE TIME EPI . many have faith in themselves epi
and in their false version of what they believe GOD is
and for christains many seem to have faith in , another version of JESUS . BOY DO WE GOT PROBLEMS .
BIBLE time epi .
 
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This thread is called Spiritual Warfare. You have seen the words I have spoken here on Christianity Board. Do you consider me your enemy?
I have no idea who you are? You ask questions...are you a reporter? If you are more than just a poster on a forum...why hide your identity? Are you undercover at the moment? ;)
 
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Thank you for your contribution. You actually address the OP...which is kind of rare these days.

I think we all have to do our due diligence where it comes to being responsible to God for our spiritual direction. To each his own.

I rely not so much on what other people have found to be true...I rely on God and the word. It's about depth in both cases. There is A LOT of superficial fluff these days. People want temporal successes...or just what makes them feel good about themselves.

The proof for me is in the pudding, so to speak. ;)

What are our doctrines doing for us and to us? Am I filled with love, joy and peace? Am I meditating on God's word day and night so that vain thoughts have no place? For me the Hebrew gave me an extra weapon to fuel my meditations. The word of God is very deep. And the experiences of God in the Spirit are eternal in scale.

What I have found is that just living by the Spirit, even if one is not IN the Spirit...brings spiritual warfare to one's door. The enemy will try appealing to what is natural to the flesh. But we are to cast down imaginations, and everything that exalts itself above the knowledge of God. And we are to take captive every thought to the obedience of Christ. Listening back to my podcast I realize I didn't spend as much time on that last aspect. To me, taking thoughts captive has to do with meditating on the word. Do I allow any thought to take over my mind before getting back to my meditation? Well I find that my mind goes back to meditating automatically. The battle is the Lord's.

Peace to you bro! <><
I believe we, and me too, tend to become combative in these threads. I'm trying to arrange my thinking on these threads as to be more positive, stating why I believe a certain doctrine, rather than spending time fighting those who believe differently.

If one reads my various posts and my signature, they'd see I would be quite similar to some of the Primitive Baptists, who truly do practice "the regulative principle of worship" of the Westminster Confession, no musical instruments, no Sunday School, very plain and simple worship.

Yet I have spent a considerable amount of time in both conservative Anglican and Lutheran churches whose worship is liturgical. Even as a 'strict' Baptist, I felt I was among the brethren in Christ, and felt no desire to straighten them out on a proper way to worship as I understand it. In fact, I experienced a sense of dignity in those liturgical churches that is sadly missing in too many evangelical churches.

I find many in Bible study approach it cafeteria style, choosing what appeals to us, but not bothering to study and understand other verses that seem to contradict the verses we embrace. I admit I have the Orthodox Church Study Bible, the Roman Catholic Study Bible and the LCMS (Lutheran) Study Bible, and I need to do more consulting the Orthodox and Catholic Study Bibles.

Probably 95% of my study research is into the Protestant Reformation Church theology and commentaries, and possibly need to broaden my perspective. I do believe in moderation and balance both in my Christian beliefs, and my life.
 

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LOL. I have a sense of humour...but come on. ;) Not of WORKS lest a man boast. You want to destroy faith as well? See, you are twisting the bible into a pretzel here.

Oh my. What do you drink with your pretzels? :beermug:

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