The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

[rebuilder 454]

What are you talking about? This does not make sense.

Mat 24

"Before the flood" is the setting for the rapture and is vividly depicted.
It is a deal killer for every doctrine but pretrib rapture

 

[rebuilder 454]

I think you know what we know. Your doctrine is not in God's Book. That is why you present a post like this that does not in any way address the question. Your avoidance, and that of your fellow Pretribbers, confirms what the rest of us already know.

Try to honestly engage.

Stop throwing out such generalities.
Try any verse I posted and let's go.
BTW, if I asked you the same question, you would be Mr cricket as you have never ever had a verse. Not a single verse.
Grab yourself a Bible and let's go.
I can easily debate you.
My verses against your "2".
Try using a bible.

 

[WPM]

Mat 24

"Before the flood" is the setting for the rapture and is vividly depicted.
It is a deal killer for every doctrine but pretrib rapture

How is it? Pretribber have a habit of claiming stuff but are slow to biblically prove. That is telling!

 

[Timtofly]

Not at all. This text does not say what you want it to say. Jesus and the New Testament remove any ambiguity on the subject. He shows that the day Noah went into the ark the flood came and all the wicked were destroyed. That is what is going to happen when Jesus comes.

Jesus said in Luke 17:26-30, “as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.”

Jesus words support my position and damn your doctrine. They show what that "self-same day" was - "the day" of destruction, thus the 7th day. Christ speaks of “the days of Noe” (plural), speaking of the days that preceded the destruction of all the wicked. He then spoke of “the day” (singular), speaking of the actual day when the wicked were wholesale wiped out.

Pretribbers consistently try to explain away the clear and explicit New Testament narrative to support their faulty opinion of the vaguer Old Testament narrative. They invent obscure extra-biblical theories to reinforces their beliefs. They have to!

The reason why Pretribbers insist on such obscure theories is because they do not have any biblical support in either the Old or the New Testament. There is no where in scripture that teaches (1) a rapture of the Church, (2) immediately followed by a literal seven-year tribulation, (3) immediately followed by a further coming of Christ.

Anyway, what has seven days notice anything to do with a supposed future seven-year tribulation? Nothing! That is how nonsensical Pretrib is.

Your verse does not say the Flood came on the day they entered. You are wrong in your grammar.

"They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark."

That stuff stopped on the day they entered.

CONJUNCTION

"The flood came, and destroyed them all."

Since there is a conjunction, there are two distinct thoughts, and you are combining them, thus removing the conjunction from what Jesus said. Obviously, to make an erroneous rebuttal.

How did they stop doing stuff, when the door was shut by God? That is not stated and is as much speculation that you have in ignoring the point the self same day all were in the ark. To you it is not reasonable the people watching, stopped their activity, but you assume it took 7 days to accomplish the task. You add to the Word, because you cannot figure out that when God shut the door, the people seemed to freeze. Perhaps they thought God meant business, but if nothing happened, perhaps God was building up the suspense? Who knows?

Your alleged scenario has Noah working for 6 days, then shuts the door, and says, goodbye, you'all. Then they can't do anything because they are dead. Then you say the OT is too hard for you to accept, and so is the NT for that matter.

You deny the point that the people could have waited, without doing normal stuff that took them away from God to see what God was actually going to do, once the door was shut. That did not mean they totally stopped taking in nourishment. It means life did not consume them. Do you think they actually got married every day of the week over and over again? Eating and drinking is a sign of carousing for the pleasure, not because they needed sustenance. One does not need to get married every day to support the marying and given in marriage aspect.

Besides, how do you think the whole world was in the know about what Noah was doing anyways? No verse states Noah went around preaching in every town about the Flood for a hundred years. It seems that it took Noah that long to build the ark God told him to build. So obviously a ship of that size caused some to take notice, and the task went viral so to speak. Perhaps interest rose and went away many times over the period of a hundred years? But when the animals started to gather around the ark, that would have meant something, no?

 

[WPM]

Try to honestly engage.

Stop throwing out such generalities.
Try any verse I posted and let's go.
BTW, if I asked you the same question, you would be Mr cricket as you have never ever had a verse. Not a single verse.
Grab yourself a Bible and let's go.
I can easily debate you.
My verses against your "2".
Try using a bible.

OK. I will take one text at a time. Please stick to it. Let us see which doctrine is based on the sacred text and which relates to what they have been taught.

Jesus said in Luke 17:24-34: “For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation. And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back. Remember Lot's wife. Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the ‘one shall be taken’, and ‘the other shall be left’. Two women shall be grinding together; the ‘one shall be taken’, and ‘the other left’. Two men shall be in the field; the ‘one shall be taken’, and ‘the other left’. And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.”

The plain focus of this teaching in Luke 17 (reference Noah and Lot’s day) is the nature and degree of the judgment that befell the wicked in these two familiar Old Testament stories and especially the extent of that particular wrath. The key element and major emphasis of this discourse is the fact (speaking of the ungodly) that God “destroyed them all.” The comprehensive destruction of the wicked in both of these examples is the important lesson of the narrative; both the whole world of Noah’s day and the whole individual city of Sodom in Lot’s day saw the immediate and complete rescue of the entire righteous coupled together with the immediate and complete destruction of the entire wicked.

Christ plainly and purposefully advanced these two days, where the righteous were graciously rescued just prior to the full annihilation of the wicked, in order to vividly portray the nature and scope of the day of His wrath at the second coming. He deliberates and graphically connected the happenings of both these former days of judgment to the day of His return. Jesus succinctly said, “Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed” (Luke 17:30).

 

[The Light]

Read what it says, not what you have been taught:

Genesis 7:11-13: "the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

The same day you have highlighted is the day Noah was 600 plus 2 months plus 17 days

Genesis 7
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up,

You conveniently left off what day the text was talking about. That would be the 6ooth year of Noah's life plus 2 months and 17 days.

Then begins a new paragraph. The conclusion is that it rained forty days and forty nights.

In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark."

The paragraph begins by saying Noah, his family and all the animals entered the ark in the self same day. That day was day one, the day they were told to enter. The loading of the animals all happens in a day.

This is further supported by these verses.

Genesis 7
9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.

10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.

All you are doing is fooling yourself. A common theme. 5 wise 5 foolish.

Not only are you foisting something upon the text in Genesis that it does not say, you refuse to acknowledge the words of Jesus Christ on this matter that reinforce what happened. Do you realize that the NT is the fuller revelation? Do you not see that Christ had a full knowledge of what occurred? You have been stepping around His words throughout the course of this thread.

Please. Jesus said they were eating and drinking UNTIL THE DAY NOAH ENTERED THE ARK. Noah entered the ark on day one, the day God told him to.

What is more, what has 7 days in Noah's day to do with 7 years in your so-called future tribulation?
Do you think Noah's world went through a 7-day great tribulation before the flood came?

You never did provide a single verse of scripture supporting your claim of a flat earth. And how does a flood work on a flat earth?

Whatever angle you look at it, your reasoning doesn't add up here. You're going to have to come clean. You're going to have to put your cards on the table. What are you trying to say? Why will you not address the explicit and irrefutable words of Jesus on this subject.

My cards have been on the table. The scripture clearly shows that Noah was told to enter the ark. It clearly says Noah did as he was commanded. It clearly says that Noah entered and it came to pass after 7 days that flood was upon the earth. CUT AND DRIED.

Further the Word says that Noah, his family and all the animals entered the ark in the self same day. That day was day one, the day he was told to enter the ark

You can fool yourself all you want. It won't change the written text.

 

[The Light]

OK. I will take one text at a time. Please stick to it. Let us see which doctrine is based on the sacred text and which relates to what they have been taught.

Jesus said in Luke 17:24-34: “For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation. And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back. Remember Lot's wife. Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the ‘one shall be taken’, and ‘the other shall be left’. Two women shall be grinding together; the ‘one shall be taken’, and ‘the other left’. Two men shall be in the field; the ‘one shall be taken’, and ‘the other left’. And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.”

The plain focus of this teaching in Luke 17 (reference Noah and Lot’s day) is the nature and degree of the judgment that befell the wicked in these two familiar Old Testament stories and especially the extent of that particular wrath. The key element and major emphasis of this discourse is the fact (speaking of the ungodly) that God “destroyed them all.” The comprehensive destruction of the wicked in both of these examples is the important lesson of the narrative; both the whole world of Noah’s day and the whole individual city of Sodom in Lot’s day saw the immediate and complete rescue of the entire righteous coupled together with the immediate and complete destruction of the entire wicked.

Christ plainly and purposefully advanced these two days, where the righteous were graciously rescued just prior to the full annihilation of the wicked, in order to vividly portray the nature and scope of the day of His wrath at the second coming. He deliberates and graphically connected the happenings of both these former days of judgment to the day of His return. Jesus succinctly said, “Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed” (Luke 17:30).

You are adding the days of Lot to produce a false narrative.

The coming of Jesus for His Church will be like the days of Noah.
The coming of Jesus for the seed of the woman, the twelve tribes across the earth will be like the days of Lot.

Two comings..........Two harvests means two raptures.

 

[WPM]

The same day you have highlighted is the day Noah was 600 plus 2 months plus 17 days

Genesis 7
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up,

You conveniently left off what day the text was talking about. That would be the 6ooth year of Noah's life plus 2 months and 17 days.

Then begins a new paragraph. The conclusion is that it rained forty days and forty nights.


The paragraph begins by saying Noah, his family and all the animals entered the ark in the self same day. That day was day one, the day they were told to enter. The loading of the animals all happens in a day.

This is further supported by these verses.

Genesis 7
9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.

10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.

All you are doing is fooling yourself. A common theme. 5 wise 5 foolish.



Please. Jesus said they were eating and drinking UNTIL THE DAY NOAH ENTERED THE ARK. Noah entered the ark on day one, the day God told him to.



You never did provide a single verse of scripture supporting your claim of a flat earth. And how does a flood work on a flat earth?


My cards have been on the table. The scripture clearly shows that Noah was told to enter the ark. It clearly says Noah did as he was commanded. It clearly says that Noah entered and it came to pass after 7 days that flood was upon the earth. CUT AND DRIED.

Further the Word says that Noah, his family and all the animals entered the ark in the self same day. That day was day one, the day he was told to enter the ark

You can fool yourself all you want. It won't change the written text.

More avoidance of the obvious and more twisting of the text. My last post refutes everything you have said here. You are ducking around the biblical text in prefernce to what you have been taught. That is Pretrib in a nutshell. It has to be taught. It cannot be gleaned from an impartial study of Scripture. It is based on theories, types and speculations, not explicit Scripture.

Read what it says, not what you have been taught:

Genesis 7:11-13: "the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark."

Not only are you foisting something upon the text in Genesis that it does not say, you refuse to acknowledge the words of Jesus Christ on this matter that reinforce what happened. Do you realize that the NT is the fuller revelation? Do you not see that Christ had a full knowledge of what occurred? You have been stepping around His words throughout the course of this thread.

What is more, what has 7 days in Noah's day to do with 7 years in your so-called future tribulation? Do you think Noah's world went through a 7-day great tribulation before the flood came?

Whatever angle you look at it, your reasoning doesn't add up here. You're going to have to come clean. You're going to have to put your cards on the table. What are you trying to say? Why will you not address the explicit and irrefutable words of Jesus on this subject.

Noah got 7 days notice until the rain comes. God then closed the ark, and the floods immediately came and destroyed all the wicked. Jesus said, “the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all” (Luke 17:27).

It is the Word that damns your argument, not me!

 

[WPM]

You are adding the days of Lot to produce a false narrative.

The coming of Jesus for His Church will be like the days of Noah.
The coming of Jesus for the seed of the woman, the twelve tribes across the earth will be like the days of Lot.

Two comings..........Two harvests means two raptures.

Pretribbers do not typically exegete the text. They cannot. To do so would force then to acknowledge they are wrong. They rather force what they have been taught upon it. This is a classic case. You duck around the counter-arguments because there is no rebuttal for them. The reader can see this for themselves.

You are seeing double everywhere you look because that is what you have swallowed.

 

[Timtofly]

Interpreting different passages differently is not an inconsistency. Each passage must be interpreted based on its own context.

Being seated with Christ is a legal statement by Paul, not indicating we are literally there with Christ, seated in heaven, but rather, being represented by him there in heaven before God. We do not wear crowns until our immortalization, or glorification. Dying does not achieve this. Living for Christ does not achieve this. The crowns come as apart of the glorification event, when we obtain immortal bodies.

No, the scene in heaven compares with the scene in heaven viewed by Isaiah in ch. 6, where God is on His throne accompanied by angels. Nowhere in Rev 4-5 are we told these "elders" represent the glorified, crowned Church! You are the one making that determination, against the evidence I've presented here. The Church is not yet glorified, and is not yet in heaven receiving glorified bodies. When Christ comes again, we will instantly be transformed to return with him in the same instant. The Kingdom of God will be on the earth, and not in heaven.

The departed saints are apparently in heaven already, but that doesn't mean this is the promised Kingdom of God, which I believe will be on earth.

It is you who deny these elders are humans, because even you say they have crowns before you think any one should. No other poster is saying they have had the crowns for thousands of years. And there is no Scripture that states they cannot have already received their reward. The point is, that if you did not deny these are humans, you would have to say they were just rewarded, like most posters here, would admit.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I have posted scripture and you reject it.

No, I reject your interpretations of scripture. I would never reject scripture itself.

Among dozens of other things, I showed you where they were eating and drinking until the day Noah was shut in the ark. That was 6 days before the flood.

Why do you not make the same comparison to the days of Lot? Why do you not compare the rapture to Lot leaving Sodom, which occurred on the same day that Sodom was destroyed? How convenient.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

No. Not at all.


If you think that is my reasoning you probably have not been reading my posts.


I didn't make any rule.


Let's see.

The Lord comes for the dead in Christ. That is the spring barley harvest.

The Lord returns for the alive that remained. That is the summer wheat harvest. These together make up the grain harvest.

After the wheat harvest, the blindness is removed from part of Israel, and they will know what happened.

Jeremiah 8
20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.

Then 144,000 from the 12 tribes are raptured as first fruits of the fall fruit harvest.

Rev 14
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

Then the harvest comes which is the gathering from heaven and earth. The seed of the woman is gathered from the earth seen here.

Rev 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

They are singing the song of Moses seen here.

Revelation 15
2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

Then the two witness are raptured seen here.

Revelation 11
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.


So yeah. 5 more raptures. If you don't see the rapture of the 144,000, the rapture at the harvest itself and the rapture of the two witnesses something is wrong.

LOL! This is too much nonsense to take seriously. Not worth the time. Please ask God for wisdom (James 1:5-7).

 

[WPM]

LOL! This is too much nonsense to take seriously. Not worth the time. Please ask God for wisdom (James 1:5-7).

Exactly! They make it up as they go. Notably, they have not been able to present one single prooftext yet. That is because it does not exist.

They are chasing their tails.

 

[WPM]

No, I reject your interpretations of scripture. I would never reject scripture itself.


Why do you not make the same comparison to the days of Lot? Why do you not compare the rapture to Lot leaving Sodom, which occurred on the same day that Sodom was destroyed? How convenient.

Exactly, they are rewriting history and avoiding teh obvious. To accept the historic reality, and the inspired teaching, would render Pretrib redundant.

 

[The Light]

More avoidance of the obvious and more twisting of the text. My last post refutes everything you have said here. You are ducking around the biblical text in prefernce to what you have been taught. That is Pretrib in a nutshell. It has to be taught. It cannot be gleaned from an impartial study of Scripture. It is based on theories, types and speculations, not explicit Scripture.

Read what it says, not what you have been taught:

Genesis 7:11-13: "the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

Great. The conclusion above is.

and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

NOW NEW PARAGRAPH.

In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark."

Not only are you foisting something upon the text in Genesis that it does not say, you refuse to acknowledge the words of Jesus Christ on this matter that reinforce what happened. Do you realize that the NT is the fuller revelation? Do you not see that Christ had a full knowledge of what occurred? You have been stepping around His words throughout the course of this thread.

Bub. I already showed you many times why what you are saying is incorrect. You see what your doctrine allows you to see.

I was post trib before I realized there are two raptures so that doesn't work on me.

What is more, what has 7 days in Noah's day to do with 7 years in your so-called future tribulation? Do you think Noah's world went through a 7-day great tribulation before the flood came?

Quit running and answer. When are you going to provide scriptural proof of a flat earth?

Whatever angle you look at it, your reasoning doesn't add up here. You're going to have to come clean. You're going to have to put your cards on the table. What are you trying to say? Why will you not address the explicit and irrefutable words of Jesus on this subject.

Noah got 7 days notice until the rain comes. God then closed the ark, and the floods immediately came and destroyed all the wicked. Jesus said, “the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all” (Luke 17:27).

It is the Word that damns your argument, not me!

LOL. Noah told first thing to enter the ark.

Genesis 7
And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.

That shoot down your unscriptural comment.

 

[The Light]

Exactly! They make it up as they go. Notably, they have not been able to present one single prooftext yet. That is because it does not exist.

They are chasing their tails.

I go by the text. Many of you go by what you think it should be in your eyes.

You can claim the 144,000 is the Church but the text says different.

 

[The Light]

How is it? Pretribber have a habit of claiming stuff but are slow to biblically prove. That is telling!

You mean like the 144,000 are from the 12 tribes and is NOT THE CHURCH.
You give yourself a trump card for every scripture. It doesn't mean what it says. It means what I want it to say. The strange thing is you don't even know you are doing it.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Noah is told to enter the ark, told in 7 days the flood will come. Noah loads the animals on the first day and the door is shut. The flood comes at the end of the 7 days.

Genesis 7
9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.

10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.

This does not say that the flood didn't start until 7 days after Noah went into the ark. It may very well have started raining immediately after he went into the ark, but the water didn't actually cover the earth until after the first 7 days went by. How else can we make sense of what Jesus said here:

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

Jesus indicated that the flood came the same day that Noah entered the ark. Are you going to just ignore that? Was He mistaken? Was He somehow not familiar with Genesis 7:10? No, of course not. He would not say something to contradict scripture. So, we should take Him at His word and interpret Genesis 7:10 in such a way that doesn't contradict what Jesus said. But, instead of doing that, you are trying to change what Jesus said to fit your understanding of Genesis 7:10.

Beyond that, you ignore what Jesus said about Lot. The very day that Lot left Sodom, the city was destroyed. Jesus said "Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.". Why would you not compare Lot leaving Sodom with the church being raptured the way you compare Noah entering the ark to the church being raptured? There's no reason why not except for doctrinal bias.

And beyond all that, even if you were correct that Noah entered the ark 7 days before the flood came, how does that equate to the rapture occurring 7 years before Jesus comes again? It's so clear that you are manipulating the text to make it say what you want in order to make it fit your doctrine. You should not do that.

Your view has people eating and drinking and marrying up until Noah enters the ark and then, for some insane reason, they stop eating and drinking 6 or 7 days before the flood even starts? What nonsense! Do you not understand that many people wouldn't even survive that long without eating or drinking? LOL! You're not even thinking here. You are making up stories of what you want to happen instead of letting scripture tell you what is going to happen.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Your verse does not say the Flood came on the day they entered. You are wrong in your grammar.

"They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark."

That stuff stopped on the day they entered.

CONJUNCTION

"The flood came, and destroyed them all."

Since there is a conjunction, there are two distinct thoughts, and you are combining them, thus removing the conjunction from what Jesus said. Obviously, to make an erroneous rebuttal.

How did they stop doing stuff, when the door was shut by God? That is not stated and is as much speculation that you have in ignoring the point the self same day all were in the ark. To you it is not reasonable the people watching, stopped their activity, but you assume it took 7 days to accomplish the task. You add to the Word, because you cannot figure out that when God shut the door, the people seemed to freeze. Perhaps they thought God meant business, but if nothing happened, perhaps God was building up the suspense? Who knows?

Your alleged scenario has Noah working for 6 days, then shuts the door, and says, goodbye, you'all. Then they can't do anything because they are dead. Then you say the OT is too hard for you to accept, and so is the NT for that matter.

You deny the point that the people could have waited, without doing normal stuff that took them away from God to see what God was actually going to do, once the door was shut. That did not mean they totally stopped taking in nourishment.

LOL!!!!!!!! You also want to manipulate the text to make it say what you want it to say. If you want to claim that they were eating and drinking and marrying only until Noah entered the ark and claim that this happened 6 days before the flood came, then you have no choice but to conclude that they stopped eating and drinking 6 days before the flood even started! LOL!!!! That is lunacy. Why would they stop eating and drinking for 6 days just because they saw Noah go into the ark without seeing any rain or proof that they flood was arriving yet? They wouldn't have. But, far be it from you to care about logic and reason.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I go by the text. Many of you go by what you think it should be in your eyes.

LOL!!! This causes you to come to conclusions like thinking people stopped eating and drinking for 6 days before the flood came. As if seeing Noah go onto the ark (as if that alone) would make them stop eating and drinking. LOL! You say you "go by the text", but don't care if you defy all logic and reason by doing so.