Who is this God that calls Himself US and OUR?

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Spyder

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I've read MANY English Bible translations and the all demand the Jesus is God the Creator! Even the JW bible!
That's right, you probably did. And that is why - translations. As I have found, those who don't see the other evidence are typically those who only see the verses pointed out to them in Sunday School. They are never shown those who prove otherwise.
 

Spyder

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It's really amazing that they all agree that Jesus is God and Hell is everlasting.
Not really, all the translators held on doctrine that was forced upon them at a very young age. If you go back before the Geneva bible, you will probably note some differences. Along the way, differences appeared. The real issue, however, is that very few ever truly examine all of scripture before creating a doctrine.
 

Jack

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Not really, all the translators held on doctrine that was forced upon them at a very young age. If you go back before the Geneva bible, you will probably note some differences. Along the way, differences appeared. The real issue, however, is that very few ever truly examine all of scripture before creating a doctrine.
Our Bibles are all wrong??? Does that mean we don't have salvation?
 

Jack

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So funny that you cannot answer questions.
How ironic. Who is US and OUR the Creator in Gen 1? Don't know? And yes, God sends Himself. He sent Himself in the flesh, Jesus, "Mighty God" and "Everlasting Father".
 

Jack

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No. Your turn. Why does Jesus say in John 17:1-3 that his father, YHWH, is the only true God if that is not true?
Colossians 1:16-17
16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.


You said it loud and clear, Jesus is God!
 
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Colossians 1:16-17
No answer to John 17:1-3.

Jack, do you realize your non-responsive posts indicate an obsessive lack of intellectual integrity? Imagine what people would say of you being a judge but only allowing one side to present evidence?
 

Jack

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No answer to John 17:1-3.

Jack, do you realize your non-responsive posts indicate an obsessive lack of intellectual integrity? Imagine what people would say of you being a judge but only allowing one side to present evidence?
I quoted YOU. That means a lack of intellectual integrity?
 

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Agreed, but how is Jesus and the Holy Spirit made unto "Our likeness?" The answer is a banned topic.

We (man) were made in our Triune God's image by being given a soul which is spirit, because God is Spirit (Gen. 1:26, Jn. 4:24). It is an unquestionable sign of His Most Holy Paternity that shows signs of the qualities characteristic of Him Who creates it. It is therefore intelligent, spiritual, free, immortal, like the Father Who created it.
 
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