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amigo de christo

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I truly hope and pray that you find the way to rise above this sort of thing. Evil speaking of others is never a good look, particularly for someone who claims to be Christian.

Much love!
Mark i have a real simple question . you rightly said that we ought not to speak evil of one another .
BUT DO YA realize that so many often speak evil of GOD and of HIS CHRIST .
I think folks forget that it was GOD , HIS CHRIST we were to have LOVED ABOVE EVERYONE . that mean ALL FOLKS .
GOD should have , CHRIST should have been loved even above ya wife , ya son , ya daughter .
MANY can say many things that contain part truths my friend .
AND YET they seemeth to have ZERO problem speaking evil of GOD , OF CHRIST , OF THAT DOCTRINE my friend .
DO we really think WE LOVE GOD
WHEN WE HONOR SIN . WHEN WE PUT HUMANITY FIRST . DO WE . DO WE .
not only that but we dont even LOVE our neighbor WHEN WE DO THAT .
I THINK , I KNOW and I KNOW FULL WELL many NOW HATE GOD and their neighbor and YET THINK THEY LOVE GOD AND THEIR NEIGHBOR .
we bess get in a bible very fast too .
 
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lets not forget the part where it say RIGHT after that
that SO TOO can HIS , as in SATAN, ministris appear as minstirs of righteousness .
THAT MEAN THEY IN THE CHURCH yet DO THE WORK OF SATAN HIS SELF .
i see this in a lot of places now and they all thinks its love and of GOD too .
which just goes to show. listenign to someone based on the fact they claim to be visited by God. Should be frowned upon..

we should look to the word.
 

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Must have hit a nerve. Was I talking about you Epi? :IDK:

Fallen/lost humanity are OF the world, as we all once were. Believers are in the world but no longer OF it. (unless we get deceived and wrongly choose to be). But that doesn't mean judging/condemning or isolating ourselves from the lost. On the contrary we are to love our neighbour as ourselves. But it needs to be understood that loving your neighbour does not mean to be UNEQUALLY YOKED with them in spirit/heart. Because WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE SPIRIT OF THE WORLD. Have we got ears to hear this...?

You talk about holiness a lot.....great, I sure do agree with walking holy....
.but are you talking about the same holiness that God talks about in His word? Because HOLY MEANS TO BE SEPARATE...SET APART UNTO GOD.....doesn't it?
Epi is on the war path for the final crusade my sister .
he believes totally he is a solider of GOD sent to bring truth to the lost world and lost christendom .
and yet has no idea he preaches against Christ .
He believes that folks like me , like you , like many
are carnal babes at best and he the warrrior sent from GOD to help unite the world
to give back to christendom what HE beleives it has lost .
NOW make no mistake CHRISTENDOM IN LARGE HAS LOST SOMETHING HUGE
and most are lost . BUT I PROMISE EPI DONT GIVE THE ANSWER on how to restore it .
HE ACTUALLY preaches against the SOLUTION and rather preaches
the solution that COMETH NOT OF GOD at all . My advice , prepare to watch it get much worse and very fast too .
Prepare to weep a lot for souls . understand now matter how much you loved them and desired good for them
THEY will hate you all the more for it . now some will hear but most are gonna reject
and they will only be hardened more and more and so much the more against GOD , CHRIST , and the saints .
THIS will lead to the greatest crusade of all and of all times .
And everyone under the delusion of what they all believe is GOD and love
and sit in the diverse tower they think will reach to heaven , will have zero problems
betraying anyone who did not conform to athuroties .
They will believe they do GODS WILL when saints are put to death .
FOR YOU SEE they wont see us as saints . THEMSELVES they will see as saints
and us only as haters of GOD and of humanity . marvel not either . STuff like this has occured before .
BUT THIS WILL COME ON A SCALE WORLD WIDE and massive in number too .
 
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which just goes to show. listenign to someone based on the fact they claim to be visited by God. Should be frowned upon..

we should look to the word.
We should . ANY GUESSES my friend as to WHERE that WORD MIGHT BE FOUND and that we can TEST all men against that word .
A HINT , THE BIBLE FOLKS . but they been brainwashed my friend .
IF YOU even try and get them back into the bible they accuse you of IDOLATRY itself . TALK about a delusion .
 

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which just goes to show. listenign to someone based on the fact they claim to be visited by God. Should be frowned upon..

we should look to the word.
LOL. I often wonder how people can speak without any thought beforehand. Do you realize that the bible was written by people who claimed to be visited by God? And the bible recounts many such visitations. Of course the bible was written so that people would NOT have that kind of deep intimacy with God...no, now we just kick back and read the bible and CLAIM to have everything from God without ANY CONTACT WHATSOEVER with God. :rolleyes:

Keep up the twisted logic... it's very popular and fills a lot of pews. :ummm:
 

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LOL. I often wonder how people can speak without any thought beforehand. Do you realize that the bible was written by people who claimed to be visited by God? And the bible recounts many such visitations. Of course the bible was written so that people would NOT have that kind of deep intimacy with God...no, now we just kick back and read the bible and CLAIM to have everything from God without ANY CONTACT WHATSOEVER with God. :rolleyes:

Keep up the twisted logic... it's very popular and fills a lot of pews. :ummm:
Epi you aint fooling the sheep my friend .
It bothers you big time when folks are well learned in that bible . cause YOU cannot then decieve them .
Lots of JESUS own words expose ya gospel my friend , lots of what paul and others wrote
expose it too . many a man just loves to sit over men and women who are not well learned in that bible .
Cause them they can decieve and lead astray .
 
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this is why many now come to make those who do stick to the bible
seem as though its BIBILOATRY . you see they cannot overcome them .
and they must make the sheep or goats that sit under them beleive its idolatry .
Ya aint fooling the sheep my friend . only yourself and those who heed ya are being fooled and decieved .
 
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Epi you aint fooling the sheep my friend .
It bothers you big time when folks are well learned in that bible . cause YOU cannot then decieve them .

Where are such learned ones? I think you mean indoctrinated ones! ;) And these refuse correction and instructions...as it is written in the bible. People tend to follow other people...not God. The sheep you claim are sheep are following other sheep ...NOT the shepherd.
Lots of JESUS own words expose ya gospel my friend , lots of what paul and others wrote

except that's not true otherwise you would post actual verses instead of grandstanding to virtue signal and get kudos from other similarly indoctrinated people.
expose it too . many a man just loves to sit over men and women who are not well learned in that bible .
Cause them they can decieve and lead astray .
It's I before E except after C. All you do is expose your own ignorance over and over and over and over...in much more confused ways than just in your communication style.

Nobody is being forced to respond to my posts, listen to my videos or read my book. But those who consider what is written plainly in the bible do find an understanding that awakens them from a deep spiritual slumber. I just do it without all the twisting that many think is truth.
 

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Of course the bible was written so that people would NOT have that kind of deep intimacy with God...no, now we just kick back and read the bible and CLAIM to have everything from God without ANY CONTACT WHATSOEVER with God. :rolleyes:

Your logic here is, "Either acknowledge that I've been visited and approved or else you have no contact with God", which is fallacious.

It's foolish to judge what you do not know.

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I think you mean indoctrinated ones! ;) And these refuse correction and instructions
All you do is expose your own ignorance over and over and over and over...

And it's foolish to continually respond in evil speaking of others.

Do you suppose you are the exception to those who reveal . . . themselves . . . in their words?

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Your logic here is, "Either acknowledge that I've been visited and approved or else you have no contact with God", which is fallacious.

It's foolish to judge what you do not know.

Much love!
Completely false and an obvious obfuscation. Reading comprehension skill absence ALERT. What the poster wrote was that we are NOT to trust anyone with actual visitation experience from God because all we need is the bible.

Are you trying to slander whatever I say as you usually do or do you really have trouble reading the posts?
 

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And it's foolish to continually respond in evil speaking of others.

You mean it's wrong to respond to those who speak evil of me for speaking the truth. You slander and wipe your mouth and say...I have done nothing wrong. I see you for what you are....
Do you suppose you are the exception to those who reveal . . . themselves . . . in their words?

Much love!
The exception is that I can discern it when people reveal themselves. Religious certainties that cater to the self-preservation embedded in the sin nature are NOT what the bible is meant to promote. Does that offend your sense of self?
 

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Are you trying to slander whatever I say as you usually do or do you really have trouble reading the posts?
False dichotomy. Not to mention misrepresentation. You're on a roll! And more maligning others. Maybe you'd benefit by rereading your posts before posting, looking for these kinds of things? Unless that's just what you want to say.

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And the bible recounts many such visitations. Of course the bible was written so that people would NOT have that kind of deep intimacy with God...no, now we just kick back and read the bible and CLAIM to have everything from God without ANY CONTACT WHATSOEVER with God. :rolleyes:
Amen!!

Some don’t understand that Gods Living witness the Holy Spirit backs up the written word, they lead themselves through scripture.

The actually believe that “ their” faith is valid in believing in God....they don’t understand that you can’t believe anything about Jesus or understand anything about Jesus, without being Born Of The Spirit...our spirit is Born Again...pointless going over it with them, when they actually believe that when they look to the cross then they are saved...if you look to cross and believe all about the cross, then one is already Born Again.
 
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You mean it's wrong to respond to those who speak evil of me for speaking the truth. You slander and wipe your mouth and say...I have done nothing wrong. I see you for what you are....
No, I'm saying your evil speaking of others isn't what we are supposed to be doing. Deny, agree, whatever, but it's healthier if you can own your behavior, and then go on to improve it.

Being able to see one's self with honest is an important thing towards living with integrity.

Much love!
 

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Epi,many are in spiritual ignorance, anyone can see that by what they post.

That’s why I never engage with them anymore...their understanding of spiritual matters are zilch.

They actually believe that the written word is the Living word, seriously....

That’s why God says, “ Spirit gives birth to spirit “ they think you can read that and boom your Born Again.
 
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False dichotomy. Not to mention misrepresentation. You're on a roll! And more maligning others. Maybe you'd benefit by rereading your posts before posting, looking for these kinds of things? Unless that's just what you want to say.

Much love!
It's easy to be the bully with other bullies...and then claim I'm the one being physical...just because you come up short in your vain ideas.

If you had any honesty you would not come to my threads to slander, accuse and do whatever was required to get people's focus off of the Spirit....and onto your love of self. Of course many love their selves...so you have some cohorts in this. But all you can do is avoid what I actually say...and lie and misrepresent what I say to please the bent you have embraced. No honesty at all.
 
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It's easy to be the bully with other bullies...and then claim I'm the one being physical...just because you come up short in your vain ideas.

If you had any honesty you would not come to my threads to slander, accuse and do whatever was required to get people's focus off of the Spirit....and onto your love of self. Of course many love their selves...so you have some cohorts in this. But all you can do is avoid what I actually say...and lie and misrepresent what I say to please the bent you have embraced. No honesty at all.
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It's easy to be the bully with other bullies...and then claim I'm the one being physical...just because you come up short in your vain ideas.

If you had any honesty you would not come to my threads to slander, accuse and do whatever was required to get people's focus off of the Spirit....and onto your love of self. Of course many love their selves...so you have some cohorts in this. But all you can do is avoid what I actually say...and lie and misrepresent what I say to please the bent you have embraced. No honesty at all.
Foolishness and projection as before.

Much love!
 
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