Sick of Low Expectations ...for young people... for everybody

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No one has ever been 'too hard' on me.

Rather, Ive been coddled and praised for doing even small efforts in most areas of my life.

My parents only real expectation of me was that I finish a university degree. Even though it wasn't what I really wanted or in line with what my actual lifestyle would be, I tried to comply.

I think I met them halfway. My husband and I married when I was 20 and he was 19. So I transfered and eked out a two year technical degree in computer science. I supposed it helped me get a couple jobs but I became a housewife within a couple years.

It was hard for me to let go of not meeting their expectation because no one else besides my husband expected me to do anything of value.

Not one person, Christian or not, expected me to abstain from sex until marriage. No one expected me to commit to my first serious boyfriend.

Most people didn't expect me to speak articulately or do well in school because I was black. People seemed blown away that I enjoyed reading and being friendly. If I put a bit of effort into a subject, it also impressed.

People from my generation are expected to be irresponsible and not mature enough to marry at 18. Save the the maturing for the late 20s or early 30s. Everyone expected a string of failed relationships and for me to settle down later while balancing career, marriage, and children.

Without God in my life, I wouldn't have expected any different of myself. This is just the norm of everyone around me.

But I get sick of the norm. Someone challenge me! Even if all you do is hold me to the same standard people had just 100 years ago.

At 18, men fought wars and women ran households with no electricity, washing machines, or microwaves. They did more with six children than a lot of mothers are expected to do with one.

It was normal to maintain a healthy weight, have children within wedlock, and make eye contact with people at a young age. The word "teenager" didn't exist.

Black Americans used to have some of the highest rates of in tact families with fathers in the home. Employment was the norm, not incarceration.

Rarely has anyone told me to give something my best effort. Ive often been told to take it easy, to stop trying to please God with my own efforts, to "try softer".

Im afraid finding anyone who will challenge me...to be an excellent wife, Christian, mother, reader, homemaker, person...is nigh impossible.

We can't risk disappointment or making anyone feel bad so we just don't have standards anymore. And if we do, they all have to do with status, career, and money.

Cults grow from this. They give people standards and purpose. We crave those things, even if those standards are dead wrong. At least they seem to care. Tolerance is so close to apathy, it hurts after awhile.
 

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No one has ever been 'too hard' on me.

Rather, Ive been coddled and praised for doing even small efforts in most areas of my life.

My parents only real expectation of me was that I finish a university degree. Even though it wasn't what I really wanted or in line with what my actual lifestyle would be, I tried to comply.

I think I met them halfway. My husband and I married when I was 20 and he was 19. So I transfered and eked out a two year technical degree in computer science. I supposed it helped me get a couple jobs but I became a housewife within a couple years.

It was hard for me to let go of not meeting their expectation because no one else besides my husband expected me to do anything of value.

Not one person, Christian or not, expected me to abstain from sex until marriage. No one expected me to commit to my first serious boyfriend.

Most people didn't expect me to speak articulately or do well in school because I was black. People seemed blown away that I enjoyed reading and being friendly. If I put a bit of effort into a subject, it also impressed.

People from my generation are expected to be irresponsible and not mature enough to marry at 18. Save the the maturing for the late 20s or early 30s. Everyone expected a string of failed relationships and for me to settle down later while balancing career, marriage, and children.

Without God in my life, I wouldn't have expected any different of myself. This is just the norm of everyone around me.

But I get sick of the norm. Someone challenge me! Even if all you do is hold me to the same standard people had just 100 years ago.

At 18, men fought wars and women ran households with no electricity, washing machines, or microwaves. They did more with six children than a lot of mothers are expected to do with one.

It was normal to maintain a healthy weight, have children within wedlock, and make eye contact with people at a young age. The word "teenager" didn't exist.

Black Americans used to have some of the highest rates of in tact families with fathers in the home. Employment was the norm, not incarceration.

Rarely has anyone told me to give something my best effort. Ive often been told to take it easy, to stop trying to please God with my own efforts, to "try softer".

Im afraid finding anyone who will challenge me...to be an excellent wife, Christian, mother, reader, homemaker, person...is nigh impossible.

We can't risk disappointment or making anyone feel bad so we just don't have standards anymore. And if we do, they all have to do with status, career, and money.

Cults grow from this. They give people standards and purpose. We crave those things, even if those standards are dead wrong. At least they seem to care. Tolerance is so close to apathy, it hurts after awhile.
Your post makes me think of Paul who would encourage with “I expect better things of you.” But most of the time if you tell someone that they’ll take it as a put down.

Hebrews 6:9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.
 
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We can't risk disappointment or making anyone feel bad so we just don't have standards anymore. And if we do, they all have to do with status, career, and money.
I think the standards we set for ourselves are more important than those society or anybody else may set us. We alone know our own strengths and limitations, we also know what we like doing and what we don't. I always put housework second to my children, which my mother did not.

As a child my mother didn't play with me or read to me, she never taught me to cook or clean, she was too impatient and preferred to do it all herself so it got done 'right' to her standards. As a young wife I was rather lax at housework and my mum said I should be more efficient. At the time my idea of efficient was doing as little as possible in the shortest time.

When I first moved to this house I was so thrilled with it that I kept it perfect and the garden as well. Then as I got more used to my new surroundings my house keeping fell short.

My garden though didn't suffer as I liked gardening more than housework. My standards are higher now, but I have help in having a cleaner to do what I can't or don't want to. As a result my own efforts have stepped up. Sadly the same can't be said for my lovely gardens as I have had to let nature take its course
 
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Well, I must say all the “ CRAP” that I have been through in my life, I Praise God for it..

He has filled my heart / spirit with so much of His Love I’m bursting at the seams....I have NEVER known a Love like it.....to go from being emotionally abused the majority of my life...to being LOVED by the Spirit Of God....blew my mind and completely overwhelmed me.

Gods Love was the first and strongest Love I will ever know!

None can Love me as God does, secure in His arms...sorry...that was on my heart....hope it was ok to share.
 

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I don't try to be something I'm not. I'm happy in my skin. It took a while but here I am and it feels good.
 
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I don't try to be something I'm not. I'm happy in my skin. It took a while but here I am and it feels good.
Me too, Sis...we must be true to ourselves.

Took years to find my own identity...I was to busy being everyone’s else’s and trying to live up to their expectations of me...

Praise God he showed me His way!!!
 
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Me too, Sis...we must be true to ourselves.

Took years to find my own identity...I was to busy being everyone’s else’s and trying to live up to their expectations of me...

Praise God he showed me His way!!!
be true to God to Christ . when the standards of the church fell so too fell the church .
Hit the trenches one and all . the standards Christ set and the aposetls set
let no man try and diminish one bit of them . For the moment
one do the church and its people will begin the fall downwards as leaven picks up
and doctrines more and more get pushed aside for what they believe is love and is of God .
when in truth THE LOVE of GOD dont cast aside his words , his truth .
 

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be true to God to Christ . when the standards of the church fell so too fell the church .
Hit the trenches one and all . the standards Christ set and the aposetls set
let no man try and diminish one bit of them . For the moment
one do the church and its people will begin the fall downwards as leaven picks up
and doctrines more and more get pushed aside for what they believe is love and is of God .
when in truth THE LOVE of GOD dont cast aside his words , his truth .
I Love that you truly Love The Lord.

He knows your heart like no other , Brother.

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I think the standards we set for ourselves are more important than those society or anybody else may set us. We alone know our own strengths and limitations, we also know what we like doing and what we don't. I always put housework second to my children, which my mother did not.

As a child my mother didn't play with me or read to me, she never taught me to cook or clean, she was too impatient and preferred to do it all herself so it got done 'right' to her standards. As a young wife I was rather lax at housework and my mum said I should be more efficient. At the time my idea of efficient was doing as little as possible in the shortest time.

When I first moved to this house I was so thrilled with it that I kept it perfect and the garden as well. Then as I got more used to my new surroundings my house keeping fell short.

My garden though didn't suffer as I liked gardening more than housework. My standards are higher now, but I have help in having a cleaner to do what I can't or don't want to. As a result my own efforts have stepped up. Sadly the same can't be said for my lovely gardens as I have had to let nature take its course
the problem is folks ought to be setting the standard , the mark on the prize , the high calling of GOD .
When the churches began to ever slowly move the mark and set it more upon the standards of men
THEN began the down fall and spiraling down of the church . We dont set our standards upon
man . Our standards come of GOD and are set upon what HE deems good .
Let us always remember that . now hit them trenches rita and do remember , it dont matter what anyone
might say or even says about ya , You know i loves ya . NOW get up , get up and conted for the true faith ,
I didnt hear no bell rita , Get up , cause amigo loves ya . One more round sister . we got another round left in us .
 

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Me too, Sis...we must be true to ourselves.

Took years to find my own identity...I was to busy being everyone’s else’s and trying to live up to their expectations of me...

Praise God he showed me His way!!!
have you noticed something dear sister .
WITH WHOM are we to INDENTIFY WITH . CHRIST or man .
WHO lives and dwells in us . exactly .
and yet i seem to see many who even claim to be christain
and they rather identify with SIN . wanna an example . OH i am a GAY christain one might say .
NOW SINCE WHEN ARE WE TO INDENTIFY WITH SIN AND NOT RATHER WITH CHRIST .
 

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i HEAR this a lot . oh we are a black church , or a white church
or a etc etc etc .
Now since when is the church black , white , heck gentile or even jew for that matter .
IS IT NOT CHRIST in all . we ought not to identify with our race
but rather WITH CHRIST , with that which is SPIRITUAL .
Now hit them trenches people , IT BE LORD PRAISING and THANKING TIME YET AGAIN in the building
and round the world .
 

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No one has ever been 'too hard' on me.

Rather, Ive been coddled and praised for doing even small efforts in most areas of my life.

My parents only real expectation of me was that I finish a university degree. Even though it wasn't what I really wanted or in line with what my actual lifestyle would be, I tried to comply.

I think I met them halfway. My husband and I married when I was 20 and he was 19. So I transfered and eked out a two year technical degree in computer science. I supposed it helped me get a couple jobs but I became a housewife within a couple years.

It was hard for me to let go of not meeting their expectation because no one else besides my husband expected me to do anything of value.

Not one person, Christian or not, expected me to abstain from sex until marriage. No one expected me to commit to my first serious boyfriend.

Most people didn't expect me to speak articulately or do well in school because I was black. People seemed blown away that I enjoyed reading and being friendly. If I put a bit of effort into a subject, it also impressed.

People from my generation are expected to be irresponsible and not mature enough to marry at 18. Save the the maturing for the late 20s or early 30s. Everyone expected a string of failed relationships and for me to settle down later while balancing career, marriage, and children.

Without God in my life, I wouldn't have expected any different of myself. This is just the norm of everyone around me.

But I get sick of the norm. Someone challenge me! Even if all you do is hold me to the same standard people had just 100 years ago.

At 18, men fought wars and women ran households with no electricity, washing machines, or microwaves. They did more with six children than a lot of mothers are expected to do with one.

It was normal to maintain a healthy weight, have children within wedlock, and make eye contact with people at a young age. The word "teenager" didn't exist.

Black Americans used to have some of the highest rates of in tact families with fathers in the home. Employment was the norm, not incarceration.

Rarely has anyone told me to give something my best effort. Ive often been told to take it easy, to stop trying to please God with my own efforts, to "try softer".

Im afraid finding anyone who will challenge me...to be an excellent wife, Christian, mother, reader, homemaker, person...is nigh impossible.

We can't risk disappointment or making anyone feel bad so we just don't have standards anymore. And if we do, they all have to do with status, career, and money.

Cults grow from this. They give people standards and purpose. We crave those things, even if those standards are dead wrong. At least they seem to care. Tolerance is so close to apathy, it hurts after awhile.
Consider what this has also led too .
The churches began to drop the standards and DROP THEM they did more and more and more .
Now about the only ones they are HARD ON are those WHO DO CORRECT . see where its led and see who its LED
them AGAINST as well .
For we are now witnessing a church age where i think i hear the word love more than ever
and yet upon visiting them churches you gonna see exactly what they love and what they accuse and hate .
Would you like an example . GO to and enter into a church of your choosing that hollers diversity
inclusivity , tolerance and love non stop .
You will find two common themes . A , they wont correct sins and errors , in fact you might even see them
honoring certain sins and errors and using the banner of love and tolerance TO DO SO .
BUT , this next part is where the hugs and love talks WILL STOP ABRUPTLY .
PICK UP a BIBLE and start to read GODS OWN WORDS about certain sins and etc
THEN SEE HOW FAST THEY HUG you , THEN SEE HOW TOLERANT they are to YOU and or to them words .
THEN YOU GONNA understand real clearly
MY GOODNESS their version of GOD , of CHRIST and of love has TURNED THEM AGAINST THE GOD HIS CHRIST
now do remember satan can say GOD is love but do beware him and his verions of love . IT GONNA LEAD ONE
INTO TOTAL REBELLION against GOD and his lambs .
 
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Satan is very wise indeed and he can decieve anyone by means of the flesh and carnal wisdom .
beware him , beware his ministirs . for they are many now .
Ye shall know them by their love .
DO THEIR LOVE HONOR GOD , CHRIST FIRST AND FOREMOST ABOVE ALL
or does and has their love led them into rebellion against GOD , HIS TRUTH , HIS CHRIST .
The love of the world is enmity with GOD . IT WILL NOT LOVE HIM , IT WLL NOT PUT HIM OR CHRIST FIRST .
it will exhonorate and honor MAN above GOD . it will honor even certain sins
it will honor many paths , the love of the world WILL DENY JESUS THE CHRIST .
but it will have a form of godliness , a form of love , a form of good works and etc
BUT BELIEVE YOU ME its father was all about SELF and boy do it LOVE IT SOME SELF FIRST AND FOREMOST .
it will pick a god that honors whatever sin it desires too . watch out . satan fell
so too do man . Let us learn JESUS THE CHRIST and all sound doctrine very well .
JESUS has the sheep , they wont sit under these hirelings either .
 
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Well, I must say all the “ CRAP” that I have been through in my life, I Praise God for it..

He has filled my heart / spirit with so much of His Love I’m bursting at the seams....I have NEVER known a Love like it.....to go from being emotionally abused the majority of my life...to being LOVED by the Spirit Of God....blew my mind and completely overwhelmed me.

Gods Love was the first and strongest Love I will ever know!

None can Love me as God does, secure in His arms...sorry...that was on my heart....hope it was ok to share.
dance that jig of praise to the glorious LORD sister . None can LOVE like GOD can
but do beware cause under guise satan is through another love acting as though HE can .
WHen in truth the love he and his minstirs do preach IS BUT Desruction and ends in perditon .
Satan aint looking to save souls but rather to GRAVE SOULS . SO he gonna do all he can
to decieve WHILE HE CAN , anyone HE can . The lambs shall not heed him
for they heed the voice of the SHEPARD of the sheep
and they warn and do remind one another to avoid these so called ministirs and their so called love gospel
which is not saving but IS ENSLAVING many souls captive to a lie that simply put , WILL Damn them .
 
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No one has ever been 'too hard' on me.

Rather, Ive been coddled and praised for doing even small efforts in most areas of my life.

My parents only real expectation of me was that I finish a university degree. Even though it wasn't what I really wanted or in line with what my actual lifestyle would be, I tried to comply.

I think I met them halfway. My husband and I married when I was 20 and he was 19. So I transfered and eked out a two year technical degree in computer science. I supposed it helped me get a couple jobs but I became a housewife within a couple years.

It was hard for me to let go of not meeting their expectation because no one else besides my husband expected me to do anything of value.

Not one person, Christian or not, expected me to abstain from sex until marriage. No one expected me to commit to my first serious boyfriend.

Most people didn't expect me to speak articulately or do well in school because I was black. People seemed blown away that I enjoyed reading and being friendly. If I put a bit of effort into a subject, it also impressed.

People from my generation are expected to be irresponsible and not mature enough to marry at 18. Save the the maturing for the late 20s or early 30s. Everyone expected a string of failed relationships and for me to settle down later while balancing career, marriage, and children.

Without God in my life, I wouldn't have expected any different of myself. This is just the norm of everyone around me.

But I get sick of the norm. Someone challenge me! Even if all you do is hold me to the same standard people had just 100 years ago.

At 18, men fought wars and women ran households with no electricity, washing machines, or microwaves. They did more with six children than a lot of mothers are expected to do with one.

It was normal to maintain a healthy weight, have children within wedlock, and make eye contact with people at a young age. The word "teenager" didn't exist.

Black Americans used to have some of the highest rates of in tact families with fathers in the home. Employment was the norm, not incarceration.

Rarely has anyone told me to give something my best effort. Ive often been told to take it easy, to stop trying to please God with my own efforts, to "try softer".

Im afraid finding anyone who will challenge me...to be an excellent wife, Christian, mother, reader, homemaker, person...is nigh impossible.

We can't risk disappointment or making anyone feel bad so we just don't have standards anymore. And if we do, they all have to do with status, career, and money.

Cults grow from this. They give people standards and purpose. We crave those things, even if those standards are dead wrong. At least they seem to care. Tolerance is so close to apathy, it hurts after awhile.
Is it is assumed that what goes on in one's head is going on in the heads of others?
 

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Is it is assumed that what goes on in one's head is going on in the heads of others?
That would depend . For not all have faith . the heart and thus the mind of man is corrupt
and has long corrupted his way upon earth . THERE be only one Solution
Only one answer
Only one hope .
JESUS the CHRIST OF GOD .
I have come a light into this world that whosever BELIEVES in me shall not abide in darkness .
Children of darkness
Children of light
and these two are contrary the one to the other .
The old man loveth and embraces sins and things displeasing to GOD
the new creature whose faith BE IN JESUS THE CHRIST
has the SPIRIT and by THAT SPIRIT would do the things pleasing to GOD .
If any man or anyone cometh and tries to put LIGHT for darkness
tries to preach a jesus who be a ministir of SIN , that man
is full of darkness .
And if the light which be in one be but darkness , HOW great that darkness be ........
Time we do as did the true church . Time we got far more serious about sin and error within the church
and its HIGH time we preach , teach , accept NO OTHER GOSPEL , CEPT THE ONE the CHRIST and later
the apostels preached . TIME to BELIEVE AGAIN that it truly is NECESSARY for folks to REPENT and BELEIVE
IN JESUS the CHRIST .
Now let us remember HE IS no ministir of sin . no , not in any way .
So Let us test all who do speak and do so against the holy scriptures , WHOM I KNOW GOD INSPIRED .
 
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What GOD has done let no man put asunder .
The marriage contract of the new covenant in JESUS CHRIST .
let not a harlot take and seduce thee by means of her subtile ways and false love .
Remember , GOD SENT THE SON
so that all who do BELIEVE in HIM would not perish but have everlasting life .
Remember the brasen serpent that MOSES once held high .
WHY was HE told to do this and what was the effect for those WHO LOOKED UPON IT .
The plague of destruction by which the peoples would perish
had set in amongst them . THERE was only one way , at that time , for the plague to be stayed
Each one had to LOOK upon the brasen serpent in the wilderdness so as they would not perish .
And now a HUGE REMINDER , for many have quickly gone out of the way and are now embracing a lie .
As MOSES LIFTED Up the serpent in the wilderness
SO TOO MUST the SON OF MAN BE LIFTED UP
that WHO SO EVER BELEIVES on HIM shall NOT PERISH
but have everlasting life . PREACH THAT FOLKS , cause this inclusive love serpent that men now hold up
and claim will save the peoples , IT WILL ONLY USHER DOWN THE WRATH OF GOD UPON THEM .
KISS THE SON Folks and preach NO OTHER NAME , NO OTHER HOPE .
For there simply is NO OTHER NAME under heaven GIVEN whereby one may be saved .
PREACH THAT NAME , REMIND of the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON HIM .
 
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What GOD has done let no man put asunder .
The marriage contract of the new covenant in JESUS CHRIST .
let not a harlot take and seduce thee by means of her subtile ways and false love .
Remember , GOD SENT THE SON
so that all who do BELIEVE in HIM would not perish but have everlasting life .
Remember the brasen serpent that MOSES once held high .
WHY was HE told to do this and what was the effect for those WHO LOOKED UPON IT .
The plague of destruction by which the peoples would perish
had set in amongst them . THERE was only one way , at that time , for the plague to be stayed
Each one had to LOOK upon the brasen serpent in the wilderdness so as they would not perish .
And now a HUGE REMINDER , for many have quickly gone out of the way and are now embracing a lie .
As MOSES LIFTED Up the serpent in the wilderness
SO TOO MUST the SON OF MAN BE LIFTED UP
that WHO SO EVER BELEIVES on HIM shall NOT PERISH
but have everlasting life . PREACH THAT FOLKS , cause this inclusive love serpent that men now hold up
and claim will save the peoples , IT WILL ONLY USHER DOWN THE WRATH OF GOD UPON THEM .
KISS THE SON Folks and preach NO OTHER NAME , NO OTHER HOPE .
For there simply is NO OTHER NAME under heaven GIVEN whereby one may be saved .
PREACH THAT NAME , REMIND of the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON HIM .
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That would depend . For not all have faith . the heart and thus the mind of man is corrupt
and has long corrupted his way upon earth . THERE be only one Solution
Only one answer
Only one hope .
JESUS the CHRIST OF GOD .
I have come a light into this world that whosever BELIEVES in me shall not abide in darkness .
Children of darkness
Children of light
and these two are contrary the one to the other .
The old man loveth and embraces sins and things displeasing to GOD
the new creature whose faith BE IN JESUS THE CHRIST
has the SPIRIT and by THAT SPIRIT would do the things pleasing to GOD .
If any man or anyone cometh and tries to put LIGHT for darkness
tries to preach a jesus who be a ministir of SIN , that man
is full of darkness .
And if the light which be in one be but darkness , HOW great that darkness be ........
Time we do as did the true church . Time we got far more serious about sin and error within the church
and its HIGH time we preach , teach , accept NO OTHER GOSPEL , CEPT THE ONE the CHRIST and later
the apostels preached . TIME to BELIEVE AGAIN that it truly is NECESSARY for folks to REPENT and BELEIVE
IN JESUS the CHRIST .
Now let us remember HE IS no ministir of sin . no , not in any way .
So Let us test all who do speak and do so against the holy scriptures , WHOM I KNOW GOD INSPIRED .
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