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Well as you publicly declared on another thread, if someone sins after supposedly trusting in Jesus, they were never saved to begin with.


Ive never said that on any Forum, or from any Pulpit, or from any commentary, or from any Video.
I dont teach that unscriptural nonsense.

So....Let me show you (again) what i teach, that Paul teaches....

I teach that there is no sin found "In Christ" and all the born again are In Christ.
There is no sin found in God, and all the Born again are "One with God".
There is no sin found in Heaven, and all the born again are "seated in Heavenly Places".. "IN CHRIST".. ."one with God".

I teach that only the LAW defines you as a sinner, and once you are born again, you are "not under the Law, but under Grace".

A.) "where there is no LAW, there is no Sin (No Transgression"..

The Born again are "not under the Law, but Under Grace".

"The Law came by MOSES........but GRACE.. .and TRUTH... came by Jesus The Christ"...

I teach 1 John 3:9, regarding "sin" and the believer, born again.

Read it carefully
 
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Calvin teaches that God's foreknowledge is "pre-destination".

And from that misunderstanding, Calvin's Theology, then predestined what isn't.

= "doctrines of devils"... Hebrews 13:9
Blah Blah Blah--where is your bible support> ?
 

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Ive never said that on any Forum, or from any Pulpit, or from any commentary, or from any Video.
I dont teach that unscriptural nonsense.
Sorry but you lied. After about 4 pages on a thread, I specifically asked you if a person who said they were Christian sinned, were they saved. YOu said no.
 

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Blah Blah Blah--where is your bible support> ?

Here is what Calvin did.

He, purposely misunderstood or truly didnt understand....that God's Foreknowledge, is not "God predestining".

So, based on that "confusion" or "deception" or "purposed deception" he created a false theology that pre-destines, much of what is not pre-destined by God.
 
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Sorry but you lied. After about 4 pages on a thread, I specifically asked you if a person who said they were Christian sinned, were they saved. YOu said no.
What is it about you two seriously, always at each other’s throats...talk about brotherly Love...

It seems to be getting worse just lately...between the two of you “ Again “....
 

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Here is what Calvin did.

He, purposely misunderstood or truly didnt understand....that God's Foreknowledge, is not "God predestining".

So, based on that "confusion" or "deception" or "purposed deception" he create a false theology that pre-destines, much of what is not pre-destined by God.
BLAH BLAH BLAH. Where is the bible verses to support your bloviating?
 

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What is it about you two seriously, always at each other’s throats...talk about brotherly Love...

It seems to be getting worse just lately...between the two of you “ Again “....
All I have asked of him for over seven threads now is to provide the biblical support for his accusations and the accusations he has personally made against me.

He has still refused, so I will still call him on it.

It is a very suspicious thing why he so steadfastly refuses to support his accusations with the bible
 

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Sorry but you lied. After about 4 pages on a thread, I specifically asked you if a person who said they were Christian sinned, were they saved. YOu said no.



I will tell you that you can't stop being born again..

See, the born again, are not in their Sin, because "God hath made JESUS to be sin for US"..

So, as i know that, i would never say that a Christian is "sinning".

You would say that, as you say you "sin and confess.... and repeat".

Im the one who stated many times that Paul wrote most of the NT Epistles and never once did he "confess a sin"..
 
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BLAH BLAH BLAH. Where is the bible verses to support your bloviating?

If you cant understand what im showing you, then bible verses will confuse you more.

Just try to think...

A.) God knowing everything, before it happens NEXT.. (Fore-Knowledge) is not God causing everything (predestining) it.

KNOWING, is not the same as CAUSING.

FORE-KNOWING (Foreknowledge) is not the same as "pre-destining"...

See it?

If you can ever see it, then you'll have taken a first step out of Calvin's "doctrine of devil's".
 

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All I have asked of him for over seven threads now is to provide the biblical support for his accusations and the accusations he has personally made against me.

He has still refused, so I will still call him on it.

It is a very suspicious thing why he so steadfastly refuses to support his accusations with the bible
Well as you well know we were chosen and predestined to be Born Again a child of God.

Which of course is Biblically supported.

Also remember the natural mind wouldn’t understand any of that...imo and belief.

Maybe therein lies the problem.

Personally I just post now and ignore all the trash and accusations .I just post what I believe the word of God to be saying then move on...I don’t have to defend what I believe to be the word of God to anyone.
 
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What is it about you two seriously, always at each other’s throats...talk about brotherly Love...

It seems to be getting worse just lately...between the two of you “ Again “....

You are referring to yourself and Eternally Grateful? @Ritajanice ?

What, you left that brawl to come and post your "opinion", and your .... "predestined to be born again before you are forgiven your sin"... Calvinism?
This is interesting as i was just telling @Wynona , recently that you keep posting this same thing, over and over all over the forum, all over my Threads, as she was wondering why i asked you to STOP DOING THAT ON MY THREADS...
 

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I never said that...

Now, 1stcenturylady, would tell you that, but i never will.

I will tell you that you can't stop being born again..

See, the born again, are not in their Sin, because "God hath made JESUS to be sin for US"..

So, as i know that, i would never say that a Christian is "sinning".

You would say that, as you say you "sin and confess.... and repeat".

Im the one who stated many times that Paul wrote most of the NT Epistles and never once did he "confess a sin"..

So, you have confused me with someone else.
Nothing more and nothing less.

You are often confused.
(Just like now).
I stand amazed in the presence
Of Jesus the Nazarene,
And wonder how He could love me,
A sinner condemned, unclean.

We used to sing this quite frequently in our gatherings but I was never comfortable saying that last line. I am no longer condemned. I am no longer unclean. I am no longer a sinner.

 
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I stand amazed in the presence
Of Jesus the Nazarene,
And wonder how He could love me,
A sinner condemned, unclean.

We used to sing this quite frequently in our gatherings but I was never comfortable saying that last line. I am no longer condemned. I am no longer unclean. I am no longer a sinner.

Beautiful.

and... "Oh precious is the flow, that makes me white as snow"..... "No other FOUNT i know.....nothing but the BLOOD of Jesus""
 
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To know the Love Of God in our spirit when he makes our spirit Born Again via His Spirit.

Mind Blowing!!! And utterly Overwhelmed by His Powerful Love..there is Nothing on the planet like the Love Of God!!
 
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It’s because of Jesus blood that we can become Born Again by His Spirit.

His Blood doesn’t make our spirit Born Again it’s because “ Of Jesus Blood” ...those who teach that the blood of Jesus makes our spirit Born Again, is an un-truth.

It’s the Holy Spirit Gods Living witness, only He can make our spirit Born Again...we are Born Of The Spirit we are Not Born Of Jesus blood.

God gifts us the faith to believe in our spirit...that is where we know Jesus ..in our spirit.

Praise God for the precious gift of Faith....human faith is no faith at all.

God given faith is Alive and Active in us...mind Blowing!!!

www.gotquestions.org › ... › Christ’s Gifts
28 Oct 2022· God gives faith because of His grace and mercy, because He loves us (Ephesians 4—5). Faith comes from God in the form of a gift (Ephesians 2:8).

John 6:29​


“Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.”

Only God can bring us to believe in the Name Of Jesus.....His Spirit does all the drawing etc.

The human intellect/ nature wouldn’t know how to believe in Jesus as it’s alienated from God.
 
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..those who teach that the blood of Jesus makes our spirit Born Again, is an un-truth.

No one teaches that Jesus Blood "make you born again".

Why do you make up such false ideas?

Now, there are cults that teach that you are "born again BY WATER"..

So, why dont you focus on those, as that is denying that the Holy Spirit causes the New Birth.

There is the issue.....its with those who demand that WATER is required for Salvation....
 

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Well as you well know we were chosen and predestined to be Born Again a child of God.

Which of course is Biblically supported.

Also remember the natural mind wouldn’t understand any of that...imo and belief.

Maybe therein lies the problem.

Personally I just post now and ignore all the trash and accusations .I just post what I believe the word of God to be saying then move on...I don’t have to defend what I believe to be the word of God to anyone.
I agree with you on your first line.

I do not mind the debate and disagreement. I also do not mind holding one accountable to defend a position they hold biblically.
 
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I will tell you that you can't stop being born again..

See, the born again, are not in their Sin, because "God hath made JESUS to be sin for US"..

So, as i know that, i would never say that a Christian is "sinning".

You would say that, as you say you "sin and confess.... and repeat".

Im the one who stated many times that Paul wrote most of the NT Epistles and never once did he "confess a sin"..
Blah BLah Blah. Still no bible verses defending you rascebic accusations against what is called the five points of calvinism.