Psalm 139:15

[Nancy]

Psalm 139:15
"My frame was not hidden from you,
when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth."

When reading the last line it brings to mind that Adam was formed from the dirt of the ground, Eve from Adam's rib.

Cain and Abel were given in natural, physical birth. As opposed to how Adam and Eve came into existence in very differing ways. I digress!


16 "Your eyes saw my unformed substance; <--- kind of like in the beginning where the world was without form, and void. :)

"in your book were written, every one of them", <---Foreknowledge of God knowing what every single day of David's life is already known by Him (I think that is exactly why David was a man "after" God's own heart)
God knew us as human beings long before we were being created. His Omniscient character already knew our outcome before we were born.

He searches us, Jeremiah 17:10, God says, "I, the Lord, search the heart, I test the mind". The Bible suggests that God's purpose in searching our hearts is redemptive, not vindictive. He wants to prepare us to come into his presence as pure vessels, not to catch us in sin or condemn us. "
If God already predestined everybody then, why does He search hearts and minds to test us" If it is an already done deal, that is. I digress again! Sry.



Ecclesiastes 11:5
"As you do not know the path of the wind, or how the bones are formed in a mother's womb, so you cannot understand the work of God, the Maker of all things."

Jeremiah 1:5
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I set you apart and appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

My question is what does being formed in the depths of the earth mean in terms of the other ways (Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel) humans were "born into existence"?

 

[Lambano]

The Hebrew word אֶרֶץ ("earth") evokes images of Genesis 1:1 ("In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth"), so the echo reminds that we are created out of the stuff that that makes up THIS world.

But more likely, David is just waxing poetic. The "depths of the earth" is a place of mystery, echoing the first half of the verse. It is characteristic of Hebrew poetry to come in couplets that either reinforce each other or contrast with one another. This is good for us (and shows God's providence) because the forms we use in poetry like rhyme schemes and meter wouldn't make it through translation. God meant it to be translated into any language.

 

[Nancy]

The Hebrew word אֶרֶץ ("earth") evokes images of Genesis 1:1 ("In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth"), so the echo reminds that we are created out of the stuff that that makes up THIS world.

But more likely, David is just waxing poetic. The "depths of the earth" is a place of mystery, echoing the first half of the verse. It is characteristic of Hebrew poetry to come in couplets that either reinforce each other or contrast with one another. This is good for us (and shows God's providence) because the forms we use in poetry like rhyme schemes and meter wouldn't make it through translation. God meant it to be translated into any language.

Thanks Lamb.
I don't make for interesting threads so, thanks for the feedback :)

 

[Behold]

If God already predestined everybody then, why does He search hearts and minds to test us"

God would not requires the UNBELIEVER..... to BELIEVE IN JESUS, .....if God was going to cause it to happen, anyway... no matter what.

God would not send people to Hell for NOT BELIEVING In Jesus, if God was not allowing them to CHOSE to Believe.


Calvinism is not CHRISTianity.

God makes : CHRISTians
Calvin make : CALVINISTs

They are not the same.

 

[Lambano]

Thanks Lamb.
I don't make for interesting threads so, thanks for the feedback :)

Actually, I enjoyed this one, because when interpreting poetry, it doesn't matter if the images it invokes in my mind aren't what the author intended. There is no wrong answer.

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Psalm 139:15
"My frame was not hidden from you,
when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth."

When reading the last line it brings to mind that Adam was formed from the dirt of the ground, Eve from Adam's rib.

Cain and Abel were given in natural, physical birth. As opposed to how Adam and Eve came into existence in very differing ways. I digress!


16 "Your eyes saw my unformed substance; <--- kind of like in the beginning where the world was without form, and void. :)

"in your book were written, every one of them", <---Foreknowledge of God knowing what every single day of David's life is already known by Him (I think that is exactly why David was a man "after" God's own heart)
God knew us as human beings long before we were being created. His Omniscient character already knew our outcome before we were born.

He searches us, Jeremiah 17:10, God says, "I, the Lord, search the heart, I test the mind". The Bible suggests that God's purpose in searching our hearts is redemptive, not vindictive. He wants to prepare us to come into his presence as pure vessels, not to catch us in sin or condemn us. "
If God already predestined everybody then, why does He search hearts and minds to test us" If it is an already done deal, that is. I digress again! Sry.



Ecclesiastes 11:5
"As you do not know the path of the wind, or how the bones are formed in a mother's womb, so you cannot understand the work of God, the Maker of all things."

Jeremiah 1:5
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I set you apart and appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

My question is what does being formed in the depths of the earth mean in terms of the other ways (Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel) humans were "born into existence"?

Interesting Nancy, Great post.

Love, Walter