How to get baptized? In the UK
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it does as the person baptizing you has been ordained as such, what gifts have they received passed down to perform baptisms, corrupted lineage?
I think I learned too much and am now non-denominational for now. But I think any proper baptism is a good idea. The gift of the Holy Ghost is a great experience and brings a very kind and loving God into our lives.
Aunty Jane
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How sad is it that you have to search for a church whose members are actually living and teaching Christianity? Sad but not unanticipated….Jesus warned that this would happen…a complete falling away from the true faith….replaced by the teachings of men.
The church was corrupted by the same entity who corrupted Judaism….satan the devil. They are mirror images of one another….(Matt 15:7-9)
But the “wheat” are there growing along with the “weeds”….we just have to find them by the criterial that the Bible presents as the identifying marks of true Christians….
”By their fruits” Jesus said we would recognize his true disciples…..by the kind of people they turn out to be.
Its not about individual denominational churches, because there were no individual churches in the first century…..just congregations of the same faith…..all had to be of one mind, and all taught one truth. (1 Cor 1:10)
Humans broke Christianity up in to a fragmented and disunited mess. Those who truly follow Jesus are those who emulate him and who obey his teachings…all of them, not just the easy ones…but more especially the difficult things…these test our mettle, so to speak. Anyone can do the easy things, but when it comes to the harder ones, it might be a tad too easy to make excuses for not doing them.
There is no significance in the site or place, such as a church, for baptism. There is no significance in the person doing the baptizing. It is not about this church or that church at all. The only significance is in the one being baptized. It is not about the baptizer; rather it is about the baptizee, i.e., you. It is strictly between you and God. Therefore, just find a location where a total immersion can be accomplished and someone willing to perform the baptism.
Outside of that it is good to find a group of Christians you can fellowship with on a regular basis even if they do not believe as you do in all things. Human beings do not do well in isolation, whether it be in our physical, natural lives or in our spiritual lives. Being alone is not good. Of course, the closer the agreement between you and the others, the better things will be.
ThePuffyBlob
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Why don't you just fetch a member of any church and then ask that person to baptize you in the water? It doesn't really matter who baptizes you. What matters is "you." But if they say you have to pay them, don't do it. Have you seen John the Baptist asking for payment? And when the Holy Spirit lives in you, don't ever let it go, or you'll lose your salvation. Once you offend the Holy Spirit, you're messed up.
A person does not need to be ordained to perform a baptism any Christian can do it. Nobody in the bible was 'ordained'. This is my baptism and these guys hadn't been ordained.
Thank you, I still feel mormon is best tbh, I will be honest the mandatory paying 10% of income puts me off though as I'm struggling in debt, I'm happy to tithe but I can't afford 10%
It isn't mandatory at my church or any church I've been part of. I don't think it is meant to be manatory at all in any church.
If you still want to be a Mormon why do you want to be baptised? That rather changes things.
I was paying a tenth of my income to my church - it wasn't mandatory though - and I was in debt. I prayed about my finances and God told me to increase my giving which I did. And it was amazing how quickly my red balance turned to black. As Christians we are meant to be generous out of the goodness of our hearts.
Aunty Jane
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Can I ask why you think “Mormon is best”?
The 10% tithing is not scriptural. Christians are not under obligation to tithe because contributions to the running of a Christian organization’s works should be voluntary. (2 Cor 9:6-7)
Even Jesus and his apostles relied on others to finance their ministry, yet only those who could afford it, did so out of their generosity and appreciation for their work. On occasion, Paul and his companions worked to earn their own money so as not to place a financial burden on their brothers and sisters…
1 Thess 2:9…..Paul wrote….
”Certainly you bear in mind, brothers, our labor and toil. It was with working night and day, so as not to put an expensive burden upon any one of you, that we preached the good news of God to you.”
Placing financial burdens on your brethren is unchristian, especially when the organization you are forced to donate to is the richest on earth. And that is the point….Mormons are forced to tithe…it is not voluntary at all. Anyone who expects a poor person to fill the coffers of the rich is just greedy.
Jesus said…”you received free, give free”….meaning that no service performed (wedding, funeral, baptism) should ever have a fee attached to it. No minister should ever be paid a ‘salary’ for doing God’s work. Food and lodging were what Jesus and his apostles were offered, along with what was necessary to maintain their ministry. We know that because Judas was the treasurer of the group and greed got the better of him as he was stealing money from the group’s finances.
Christendom is not, and never has been “Christian” in its beliefs or practices…..the true faith is devoid of false doctrines and adopted celebrations that are simply rebranded pagan festivals. (2 Cor 6:14-18)
Find out the origins of what is taught in Christendom, and you will see nothing of value in it…which is why it is so divided….God’s spirit is not active there. God’s spirit unites his worshippers…it does not divide them.
When Christ comes to judge the world, what will he say to the majotrity who have not bothered to investigate the source of their beliefs?…too lazy to study God’s word unlike the Jews in Beroe’a who were commended for verifying all that Paul taught from the scriptures, to prove to themselves that what he said was true? (At a time when Jewish hatred for the Christians was ever increasing. Acts 17:10-13)
Matt 7:21-23…Jesus said….
”Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’”
The excuses they offer their “Lord” will not be accepted, and the “Christianity” they practiced will be rejected….Christ has NEVER known them. “Never” means “not ever”.
It is the “few” not the “many” who will be accepted by the judge of all of us at that crucial time in our history…..now, very near at hand. (Matt 7:13-14)
Well, it's up to you but it's a great idea to get baptized. I don't think you have to pay for Mormons to be rich off your 10% though, what are they going to do with that 10%? Help the homeless and such? Probably not. It probably goes to making bigger temples and such?
Pathfinder7
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FYI, Aunty Jane is a Jehovah's Witness and only views other JW as "True Christians" and worthy of respect. Anyone else is viewed as a weed to be literally incinerated when Christ comes, extremely fear-based. JW faith forbids friends of other faiths, and all contact is motivated to have you likewise join that faith.
Some of them have. The man who was vicar at my local church when I was first born again was filled with the Spirit as are all true Christians. I don't know what you mean about going through a formal spiritual ceremony.
As people who are born again the bible tells us we are part of a Royal priesthood so that give us the right and authority to baptise people. My own church fellowship recognises that.
Just getting baptised without first being born again means nothing. So are you born again @jessicaleks93 , do you have the Holy Spirit within you?
Also a lot - most even - of the answers you are getting are from Americans who seem to do things differently from here in England.
Ronald David Bruno
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“I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire." Matt. 3:11
John baptized with water, to prepare people for Jesus, Who baptized with the Holy Spirit. Water baptism is symbolic for the spiritual cleansing of sins that Jesus does when you believe and ask for forgiveness. Baptism means immersion into. We are immersed into a relationship with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. It sounds like you are already immersed into a relationship with God.God knows your heart and will lead you.
When I first became a believer, I used to drive an hour to attend my first church that a friend invited me to; but after awhile, I wanted something closer. But anything within an hour is reasonable if you love the church. I sought to find a church nearby and just looked in the phone book and visited a bunch and found one, 10 minutes from home.
Pray and then go ... you'll know when it feels like home.
>> I was looking at some of the churches in your area. I came across Life Church in Bradford. Sounds good, like the church I went to, spirit filled.
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I'm a nerd who's studied many many faiths, Christian and non. Feel free to ask me anything :).
Within the Christian umbrella, there's the universal core of Jesus Christ is the Son of God, salvation comes through faith in Him. Day to day encouragements of being an ethical person, loving your neighbor, and of course loving God. Surface things look very similar. When it comes to actual theology, there's a very large variety of view points. Including of course, folks having different opinions on how much that variety actually matters :).
Using the topic of baptism as an example, "why get baptized?" has different answers in different denominations. Some denominations believe it's to was away the stain of Adam and belief doesn't matter. Some believe that baptism should be done by a believer and is a transformative. Some believe baptism doesn't actually do anything, it's simply an outward dressing the change that already happened & is totally finished. Some believe that baptism is completely unnecessary and just skip it. Etc.
What is the correct way to be baptized likewise has a huge variety of answers.
My practical advice: do some studying yourself of what YOU believe. Then let Christ guide you from there. It's a single-step at a time approach that is frequently most practical.
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