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When Calvin's comments are taken in context, it is clear that while he does not understand this passage to be referring to Christ's "unity in essence" (Greek: homoousias) - a technical term used by the "ancients" (that is, the Nicene church fathers) - Calvin does accept that Jesus is laying claim to God's power and therefore is proclaiming His true Deity:

  • I and my Father are one. He intended to meet the jeers of the wicked; for they might allege that the power of God did not at all belong to him...​
  • And this would be a just definition of blasphemy, if Christ were nothing more than a man. They only err in this, that they do not design to contemplate his Divinity, which was conspicuous in his miracles...​
  • Do you say that I blaspheme? The Arians anciently tortured this passage to prove that Christ is not God by nature, but that he possesses a kind of borrowed Divinity. But this error is easily refuted, for Christ does not now argue what he is in himself, but what we ought to acknowledge him to be, from his miracles in human flesh. For we can never comprehend his eternal Divinity, unless we embrace him as a Redeemer, so far as the Father hath exhibited him to us. Besides, we ought to remember what I have formerly suggested, that Christ does not, in this passage, explain fully and distinctly what he is, as he would have done among his disciples; but that he rather dwells on refuting the slander of his enemies.​
  • And I am in my Father; that is, "I do nothing but by the command of God, so that there is a mutual connection between me and my Father." For this discourse does not relate to the unity of essence, but to the manifestation of Divine power in the person of Christ, from which it was evident that he was sent by God.​


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1. The NWT translates the Greek preposition en ("in") with the paraphrase "in union with" in this and several other verses that speak of Christ being "in" the Father or "in" His disciples. It is possible to interpret en in these verses as more or less meaning "in union with," so long as it is understood to mean an intimate, personal relationship or spiritual union - not merely a general association or unity of goals and purpose. Thayer, for example, says of en in these verses:

Of a person to whom another is wholly joined and to whose power and influence he is subject, so that the former may be likened to the place in which the latter lives and moves. So used in the writings of Paul and of John particularly of intimate relationship with God or with Christ, and for the most part involving contextually the idea of power and blessing resulting from that union.​
Other lexicons similarly stress that en in these verses means more than "in union with" in the sense of mere association:

A marker of close personal association - 'in, one with, in union with, joined closely to' (Louw & Nida)​
 

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The en of religious fellowship, often with einai (Jn 10:38; 1 Jn 2:5b, etc.) or menein (Jn 6:56; 1 Jn 2:6, etc.). Reciprocity is frequently stressed (Jn 6:56; 1 Jn 3:24, etc.). The Father is brought into the relationship, either with Jesus (Jn 10:38) or with us (1 Jn 4:12 - 13). We thus have a triangle (Jn 14:20; 17:21; 1 Jn 2:24). The formulas are neither ecstatic nor eschatological but mystical in a very broad sense with a strong personal and ethical reference (TDNT).​
This fully nuanced meaning is particularly true in John 14:17 - 18, where Jesus specifically equates the Spirit being "in" the disciples with the Spirit being "with" them, and then affirms that this indwelling is the means by which Jesus can affirm His promise not to leave His disciples as orphans. A similar thought permeates Jesus' prayer in John 17:21ff.

2. "One" in this verse is the Greek mian, the feminine form of eis. This form is grammatically required because "one" modifies "flesh," which is also feminine in Greek.

3. D.A. Carson identifies the juxtaposition of texts like these as a "target rich" environment for interpretive errors:

Consider the Arian efforts to link John 10:30...and John 17:20 - 23.... What gives interpreters the right to link certain verses together and not others? The point is that all such linking eventually produces a grid that affects the interpretation of other texts. There may be fallacies connected not only with the way individual verses are interpreted, but also with the way several verses are linked - and then also with the way such a link affects the interpretation of the next verse that is studied! (Carson, Fallacies, p. 139).​
 

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John 10 he is saying one in nature with the Father.
John 17 is one in spirit or agreement.
is a well know word study fallacy.
In John 10 Jesus presents Himself as the Good Shepherd and, in a debate with the Jewish leaders, makes the claim, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30). It was a bold statement—one His audience found quite audacious—and it reveals much about who Jesus is.

Five key observations can be made concerning this passage. First, Jesus claimed to be one with God in the sense of being equal to Him. Jesus did not claim to be merely a messenger or prophet of God, but of equal power with God.

Second, His audience understood that Jesus was claiming equality with God the Father. In verse 31, “The Jews picked up stones again to stone him.” Why? Blasphemy was a crime punishable by death according to the Jewish Law. When Jesus asked why they were planning to kill Him, they answered, “For blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God” (John 10:33). If Jesus had been lying or deceived, His statement would have been blasphemous. In fact, the only way His words were not blasphemy is if Jesus was telling the truth about His equality with God.

Third, Jesus referred to Himself as God’s Son and to God as His Father (John 10:36–37). He used Psalm 82:6 to show that the Messiah has the right to claim the title “Son of God.”

Fourth, Jesus claimed that that Father sent Him: “the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world” (John 10:36). In this statement, Jesus claimed preexistence in the Father’s presence. No biblical prophet had ever made such a claim before; yet Jesus claimed to exist before Abraham (John 8:58).

Fifth, Jesus only stated that the Jews did not believe Him; He never said they misunderstood His claim to be God. John 10:38 notes, “Even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” Jesus was not correcting a misunderstanding. They understood what He said perfectly. He was correcting their willful rejection of Him.

Colossians 1:16–17 affirms Jesus’ same teaching: “In him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.” John 1:1 explicitly notes that Jesus was both with God in the beginning and was God.

In summary, Jesus claimed to be one with the Father as part of a larger argument to note that He had existed from eternity past, lived in perfect oneness with the Father, held the same power as God, and was sent by God the Father’s authority. Unfortunately, He was rejected as divine by the Jewish leaders. Jesus’ claim to have equal power as the Father was not blasphemy. It was the plain truth.
 

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One (εν). Neuter, not masculine (εις). Not one person (cf. εις in Galatians 3:28 (NAS)
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
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18 For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.
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19 Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in the same way.20 "For the Father loves the Son and shows Him all things that He Himself is doing; and the Father will show Him greater works than these, so that you will be amazed.21 "For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so the Son also gives life to whom He wishes.22 "For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son,23 so that all will honor the Son just as they honor the Father. The one who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.24 "Truly, truly, I say to you, the one who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.…
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11 "I am no longer going to be in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I am coming to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, so that they may be one just as We are.
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21 that they may all be one; just as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
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3 for you are still fleshly. For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly, and are you not walking like ordinary people?
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11 "I am no longer going to be in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I am coming to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, so that they may be one just as We are.
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23 I in them and You in Me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know that You sent Me, and You loved them, just as You loved Me.
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“I Am Alpha And Omega, The Beginning And The Ending,” saith the Lord, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.

The one who is to come is Jesus.
Jehovah says those words. He is sending Jesus but it is his day of anger. He is the power. It is his will that will be carried out by Jesus.
 

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It seems clear that the unity spoken of cannot fall short of unity of essence. The thought springs from the equality of power (my hand, the Father's hand); but infinite power is an essential attribute of God; and it is impossible to suppose that two beings distinct in essence could be equal in power (Westcott).

The oneness of will and task, in this context, is so transparently a divine will, a divine task (viz. the saving and preserving of men and women for the kingdom) that although the categories are formally functional some deeper union is presupposed (Carson, John).

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I and the Father one are.

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  • To be united most closely (in will, spirit), Jn x. 30 (Thayer).
  • In contrast to the parts, of which the whole is made up ... J 10:30 (BAGD).
  • One (hen). Neuter, not masculine (heis). Not one person (cf. in Gal 3:28), but one essence or nature. By the plural sumus (separate persons) Sabellius is refuted, by unum Arius. So Bengel rightly argues, though Jesus is not referring, of course, to either Sabellius or Arius. The Pharisees had accused Jesus of making himself equal with God as his own special Father (John 5:18). Jesus then admitted and proved this claim (5:19-30). Now he states it tersely in this great saying repeated later (17:11, 21). Note hen used in 1 Cor 3:3 of the oneness in work of the planter and the waterer and in 17:11, 23 of the hoped for unity of Christ’s disciples. This crisp statement is the climax of Christ’s claims concerning the relation between the Father and himself (the Son). They stir the Pharisees to uncontrollable anger (RWP).
ESMEN (2070)
  • First person plural (present indicative active), "we are"
  • The present indicative asserts something which is occurring while the speaker is making the statement.
When Jesus returned to heaven, he sat at the right hand of God( majesty) Heb 1:3--not the same essence.
We are= one in purpose. I and the Father are one= in purpose---That purpose is Jesus lives to do his Fathers will over his own( Luke 22:42) As do the true followers( Matt 7:21) that is how we become one with them.
 

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I guess you are saying you won't believe Jesus and yet you think you will be saved. You can't accomplish this-John 4:22-24 unless you believe Jesus' truth.
Get a grip of your 'self', you're acting weird, and stop with the gibberish babbling manifestation.

What makes you think you're able to judge, that i am not saved ?
 
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Jehovah says those words. He is sending Jesus but it is his day of anger. He is the power. It is his will that will be carried out by Jesus.
The passage is about Jesus, thus he is Almighty God.
 

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When Jesus returned to heaven, he sat at the right hand of God( majesty) Heb 1:3--not the same essence.
We are= one in purpose. I and the Father are one= in purpose---That purpose is Jesus lives to do his Fathers will over his own( Luke 22:42) As do the true followers( Matt 7:21) that is how we become one with them.
I clearly showed from Greek Grammar that "are one" is nature, not purpose.

Hebrews 1

Easy-to-Read Version

God Has Spoken Through His Son​

1 In the past God spoke to our people through the prophets. He spoke to them many times and in many different ways. 2 And now in these last days, God has spoken to us again through his Son. He made the whole world through his Son. And he has chosen his Son to have all things. 3 The Son shows the glory of God. He is a perfect copy of God’s nature, and he holds everything together by his powerful command. The Son made people clean from their sins. Then he sat down at the right side[a] of God, the Great One in heaven. 4 The Son became much greater than the angels, and God gave him a name that is much greater than any of their names.
5 God never said this to any of the angels:
“You are my Son.
Today I have become your Father.”
God also never said about an angel,
“I will be his Father,
and he will be my son.”
6 And then, when God presents his firstborn Son to the world, he says,
“Let all God’s angels worship him.”[c]
7 This is what God said about the angels:
“He changes his angels into winds[d]
and his servants into flaming fire.”
8 But this is what he said about his Son:
“God, your kingdom will last forever and ever.
You use your authority for justice.
9 You love what is right and hate what is wrong.
So God, your God, has chosen you,
giving you more honor and joy than anyone like you.”
10 God also said,
“O Lord, in the beginning you made the earth,
and your hands made the sky.
11 These things will disappear, but you will stay.
They will all wear out like old clothes.
12 You will fold them up like a coat,
and they will be changed like clothes.
But you never change,
and your life will never end.”
13 And God never said this to an angel:
“Sit at my right side
until I put your enemies under your power.[e]”
14 All the angels are spirits who serve God and are sent to help those who will receive salvation.

Footnotes​

  1. Hebrews 1:3 right side The place of honor and authority (power).
  2. Hebrews 1:6 world This may mean the world into which Jesus was born (see Lk. 2:1-14), or it may have the same meaning as in Heb. 2:5—the world to come, to which the risen Christ is presented as king (see Php. 2:9-11).
  3. Hebrews 1:6 “Let … him” These words are found in Deut. 32:43 in the ancient Greek version and in a Hebrew scroll from Qumran.
  4. Hebrews 1:7 winds This can also mean “spirits.”
  5. Hebrews 1:13 until I put … power Literally, “until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.”
 

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A "form" of Cherokee?
You are claiming that a Christian woman was cursing God in tongues because
you say you understood what she was saying as a form of Cherokee?

If you are mistaken, would it be bearing false witness against her?
What power source would be behind someone cursing God in tongues?
Jesus indicated that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is attributing the work of God to Satan.
(the supposed unforgivable sin)

Do you speak in tongues?
Would you allow the Holy Spirit to manifest himself that way in you?

What say you?

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I am not mistaken on what I read and heard on my cell phone.
 

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The little flock=144,000 bought from the earth( Rev 14:3) = the anointed bride of Christ-To rule as kings and priests alongside of Jesus on thrones( Rev 1:6, Rev 20:6)
All are single, virgin, male, Jewish.
 

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I guess you are saying you won't believe Jesus and yet you think you will be saved. You can't accomplish this-John 4:22-24 unless you believe Jesus' truth.
He believes Jesus, not the watchtower.
 

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Get a grip of your 'self', you're acting weird, and stop with the gibberish babbling manifestation.

What makes you think you're able to judge, that i am not saved ?
Only those who obey Jesus remain in his love and are his friend-John 15:10-14---Thus if one refuses to believe Jesus how can they obey him? If one refuses to believe Jesus that one is standing in opposition. I didn't judge, the bible has already judged.
 
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