Trump is dangerous - a Messianic Complex

[Big Boy Johnson]

Our example is Jesus Christ. Did he stand up against it, or do as you advocate— and do nothing?

Show us in the scriptures where Jesus over turned the roman government?

This is one of the reasons the Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah because Jesus did NOT over throw the romans which is what they were expecting their coming Messiah to do.

Had they known God's Word better, they would have known that the first arrival of their Messiah He comes as a suffering servant... then when He returns is when He comes as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah and takes over the entire world and rules with a hand of iron for 1000 Years along with His Saints who reign with Him.

So yeah, Jesus literally did nothing to stop the tyranny of the roman government since His literal Kingdom was not yet... and it's still not yet because He has not yet returned.

Hebrews 2:8
Thou hast put all things in subjection under His feet. for in that
He put all in subjection under Him, He left nothing that is not put
under Him. But now we see not yet all things are put under Him

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

The Catholic Church did a lot of good things

There are some who reject the Lord altogether... that have done some good things, so doing a few good things in and of themselves doesn't mean much.

Correcting and speaking truth to your neighbour isn't condemnation. The spirit of political correctness would not agree though, which is what has taken over Christendom and the hearts and minds of the church.

Anytime I run across liberals (baby killing communist perverts), I warn them ahead of time that I am politically incorrect and I'm working to make carbon foot print larger!

They typically have an expression on their face similar to this...

 

[Mr E]

Show us in the scriptures where Jesus over turned the roman government?

John 18. Read it and weep.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

John 18. Read it and weep.

It's rather odd that... John 18 says nothing about Jesus over throwing the roman government... weird

Did you post the wrong scripture?

Or would you like to try again? That was strike one....

 

[Grailhunter]

OK, so post up some scriptures showing Jesus going out to over turn the roman government or otherwise changing how they operate. Jesus said "My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight" (John 18:36)... so when did He change His mind and say something different? View attachment 41080


And, let's see some scriptures where the Lord is giving Christians a call to action to control or take over the governments of the world so they are all under the control of Christians.

I seemed to have missed those instructions in God's Word so if you could help me out and post those up, I'd appreciate it. View attachment 41079

Some topics are more complicated than others.

Yahweh’s rules of war….and I mean Mosaic Law was kill all that breaths so that there would be no one left to confront the Israelites again. And He generally used champions to do it. It is not like Christ opposed Yahweh's will or thought He did wrong.

Christ seemed to preach non violence….seemed….remember the money changers.

The Bible indicates that there is a negative to having blood on your hands even if it is for a righteous cause…..Maybe Christ did not want Christians to have blood on their hands …..most thought that He would return very soon and deal with the evil….As it turned out Christianity conquered Rome by merging with them.

As it is now the world is full of wolves and the sheep would be eaten if it weren’t for those that would defend them. So those that are pacifist hide behind men and women of Courage….whether it be law enforcement or the military. There families are safe and have freedom of religion because of the military. You notice that pacifists do not move to third world countries….they can say they are pacifist but they want men and women of courage between them and the wolves.

And there are time that a county will turn on its own people that is why the founding fathers knew it was important for the public to be armed….Don’t Tread On Me

In the end violence….Christ will not have an Armageddon brunch or barbeque party…..it will be a slaughter and people will burn in agony in hell’s fires forever. Neither Yahweh or Yeshua are againt violence and killing.....it just has to be for the right reason and the right time.....a Yahweh said....there is a time for peace and a time for war.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Neither Yahweh or Yeshua are against violence and killing.....

Point being... HE will take care of business and under the New Covenant He has not instructed Christians to go out and start whacking people.

If someone is attacking putting our lives at risk, I'm not convinced that using deadly force in self defense is a sin... but that's only in extreme situations where one's life is in danger or others lives are endangered.

But I do know that offensively going out and whacking people (like the murderous reformers and catholics did) is murder. Hopefully this is not what you have in mind and you're going to be the next mass shooter we hear about on the news... is it?

And.. you know there are no special browning points with the Lord for saying Yahweh or Yeshua as this does not make you more righteous before the Lord than those who say God, Father, and Jesus.

 

[Grailhunter]

Point being... HE will take care of business and under the New Covenant He has not instructed Christians to go out and start whacking people.

If someone is attacking putting our lives at risk, I'm not convinced that using deadly force in self defense is a sin... but that's only in extreme situations where one's life is in danger or others lives are endangered.

But I do know that offensively going out and whacking people (like the murderous reformers and catholics did) is murder. Hopefully this is not what you have in mind and you're going to be the next mass shooter we hear about on the news... is it? View attachment 41109

And.. you know there are no special browning points with the Lord for saying Yahweh or Yeshua as this does not make you more righteous before the Lord than those who say God, Father, and Jesus.

One, I am use to sheep.
And two, I know that there are people that do not think that God's name is important. The scriptures and I disagree.....only one name can be called upon for salvation and in the end....on Judgment Day tell Christ that you do not think His name is important....see how it works out for ya.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

only one name can be called upon for salvation and in the end

So, if one calls upon the Name of JESUS when getting born again... they are not really born again and will burn in hell just because they did not speak His Hebrew name???

There are many languages around the world... and they all have a way to say JESUS in their own language... so you think these Christians are all doomed to hell for not saying Yeshua

And you believe speaking in Hebrew is a good work that earns yo salvation?

 

[Grailhunter]

So, if one calls upon the Name of JESUS when getting born again... they are not really born again and will burn in hell just because they did not speak His Hebrew name???

There are many languages around the world... and they all have a way to say JESUS in their own language... so you think these Christians are all doomed to hell for not saying Yeshua

And you believe speaking in Hebrew is a good work that earns yo salvation? View attachment 41118

No one knows where the word Jesus came from, it just appeared in the 17th century. Besides that there is no “J’s” in the scriptures. The first time the letter J came out in any language was in the 1400’s and did not get popular until the 1600’s That is why the word Jesus did not appear in the KJB until the mid 1600’s. Which means for 1600 years people did not call Him Jesus.

Why not call Him George? It will have the same effect….George is not related to salvation and Christ knows that people that say Jesus, do so out of ignorance and do not care enough to know His name.

Now will Christ have mercy on the ignorant and those that just do not care? Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you….. Not….just believe any thing you are told. Who knows the extent of Christ’s mercy? In which case George or Jesus would not matter. But I do recommend that you do not tell Christ on Judgment Day that His name is not important.

And as far as different languages….Any human being can say the name Yeshua….and it is not that abnormal for the names of persons and places to be pronounced as the original pronunciation in any language….it just depend on how important you think it is.

And I did not say anything about Hebrew salvation.

 

[Scott Downey]

Have you ever seen a sign on a church that says Calvinist or Calvinism? If you have seen one, send me a picture….Otherwise beware of Calvinism.

Calvinism is in no way the foundation of Protestantism…..no more than the Catholics are the foundation of Christianity. And when someone says the word Calvinism, that does not refer to one religious belief, there is more than one. John Calvin did not believe everything that modern Calvinism believes and as I said there are more than one set of beliefs regarding Calvinism. It is almost like a game of Whack-a-mole.

You might find a First Baptist Church in your town but you are probably not likely to find the First Calvinist Church anywhere, meaning a church that has a sign out front that says Calvinism. I have yet to see any in five countries. Same thing goes if you trying to find the Calvinist Headquarters or central committee. Calvinism has always been an infiltrator of churches and denominations. There are a lot of denominations that are dealing with this now. Now a days you are not going to be able to attend a Calvinist's convention because there are none, but the Southern Baptists do have conventions. And at these conventions many expressed concerns with the infiltration of Calvinists in their congregations.

Why John Calvin Is Shaking Things Up For Southern Baptists.

I was actually invited to debate this with some Calvinists at a Baptist church that was under siege. They get their foot in the door on the premise that God is Almighty and can make anything happen and most would agree with this….but “can make” is the truth. God does have the power in one way or another to make things happen. The difference between the truth and the lie is that God has the power to predestine, as opposed to the Calvinist’s doctrine of predestination that everything is predestined. Not that they just have one doctrine, which is another ploy.

Taking their doctrine to the extremes God decided how everything was going to happen before He created anything….Meaning He decided who was going to Heaven or Hell before He created anything. Meaning that there is no escape for those that were born to go to Hell. The belief is not only false….it is ludicrous. What would be the point? What satisfaction would God take if our faith in Him was forced? What satisfaction would God take if our worship of Him was forced? What satisfaction would God take if our love for Him was forced? The scriptures say there are so many ways we can please the Lord….how could it be pleasing if He forced it?

Ultimately their beliefs serve those that want to edify themselves because they say they are the elect. Oh I am special! Look at me! And none of this means that God does not know what is going to happen….but there is a big difference between clairvoyance and predestination.

The truth is, reality is not an orchestrated play. For the most part we have free-will. We choose faith, faith in Christ…we choose to repent….we choose to be Baptized….we choose to participate in the Bread and Wine Ritual….we choose to follow the morals of the Word of God….we choose to be good and do good the best we can. We are not robots programmed before the beginning of time.

In application it can be very destructive for people and whole families. I have seen it happen. You take a family that is totally devoted to God….Mom and dad and kids are into church functions and do all kinds of activities together and then some thing horrific happen like one of the parents dies….the father dies and the wife is left with nothing and loses everything…..God is against them so the kids go astray…..not by chance but because God made it happen…..killed the father and predestined the children to lose their religion and go astray. Why pray to God for help at that point? Whole families are destroyed by a very false belief.

Your best bet….reject Calvinism in any form.

The Johnny Appleseed of Truth

Calvinism hurts no one. It is simply an explanation for why things happen as they do. And it is always scriptural. All are dead and hell bound, God in his mercy redeems some from the pit. Salvation is entirely the mercy and compassion of God towards some people and not others.
Couple things about God's works. God does the work of salvation and all God's works were completed from the foundation of the world.
The apostles recognized the reason the gentiles were turning to God was because God had done his work in them.

Acts 15
14 Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name. 15 And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written:

16 ‘After this I will return
And will rebuild the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down;
I will rebuild its ruins,
And I will set it up;
17 So that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
Even all the Gentiles who are called by My name,
Says the [d]Lord who does all these things.’

18 [e]“Known to God from eternity are all His works. 19 Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God,

Hebrews 4
3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said:

“So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ”
although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; 5 and again in this place: “They shall not enter My rest.”

Romans 9
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” 16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy.

Titus 3
Remind them to be subject to rulers and authorities, to obey, to be ready for every good work, 2 to speak evil of no one, to be peaceable, gentle, showing all humility to all men. 3 For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another. 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Not going to mention anything else to you about the subject for you seem to be a closed book.

 

[Grailhunter]

Calvinism hurts no one. It is simply an explanation for why things happen as they do. And it is always scriptural. All are dead and hell bound, God in his mercy redeems some from the pit. Salvation is entirely the mercy and compassion of God towards some people and not others.
Couple things about God's works. God does the work of salvation and all God's works were completed from the foundation of the world.
The apostles recognized the reason the gentiles were turning to God was because God had done his work in them.

Acts 15
14 Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name. 15 And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written:

16 ‘After this I will return
And will rebuild the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down;
I will rebuild its ruins,
And I will set it up;
17 So that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
Even all the Gentiles who are called by My name,
Says the [d]Lord who does all these things.’

18 [e]“Known to God from eternity are all His works. 19 Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God,

Hebrews 4
3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said:

“So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ”
although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; 5 and again in this place: “They shall not enter My rest.”

Romans 9
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” 16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy.

Titus 3
Remind them to be subject to rulers and authorities, to obey, to be ready for every good work, 2 to speak evil of no one, to be peaceable, gentle, showing all humility to all men. 3 For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another. 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Not going to mention anything else to you about the subject for you seem to be a closed book.

LOL I have heard all the Calvinist lingo before. And I have seen Calvinism hurt families. When you listen to a Calvinist it is like listening to a cult leader because they are trying to sell you on false beliefs. Beside the fact that it makes no sense or even have a purpose. Beside the fact that Calvinism portrays God as a monstrous puppet master, it is sacrilegious to God just to edify people that think they are the elect. And then you have the whole sci-fi thing that we are all robots under the control of a deity. Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

I think that Satan would like the idea of God determining who is going to Hell before creation…because it guarantees him a quota. Babies born bound to Hell!

In order to promote this belief they had to come up with a whole list of non-biblical beliefs….Tulip.

T - Stands for Total Depravity

U - Stands for Unconditional Election

L - Stands for Limited Atonement

I - Stands for Irresistible Grace

P - Stands for Perseverance of the Saints

If Calvinism was a true religious belief they would not have to infiltrate churches.

And again….What would be the point? What satisfaction would God take if our faith in Him was forced? What satisfaction would God take if our worship of Him was forced? What satisfaction would God take if our love for Him was forced? The scriptures say there are so many ways we can please the Lord….how could it be pleasing if He forced it?

Satan is a schemer and I suspect it is a ploy of Satan to distract Christians from the truth….to a religion that edifies people and is sacrilegious to God.

 

[Hazelelponi]

What Is TULIP?

What do tulips, the love of God, and a centuries-old understanding of salvation have in common? They are all reflected in what has come to be known as the five

www.ligonier.org

No one takes anyone's church over. Some reformed denominations might join into larger groups of churches for the purposes of supporting missions, and others don't (at some churches supporting missions is individual responsibility rather than collective) , but reformed churches aren't subversive and don't hide what the church believes, in fact, they quite openly display it.

If you don't know what something means, like "particular" or "1689" or even "freewill" when looking at Baptist churches you can always ask if what someone teaches in their church concerns you that greatly prior to visiting.

It's fairly easy to understand when you ask.

 

[Scott Downey]

LOL I have heard all the Calvinist lingo before. And I have seen Calvinism hurt families. When you listen to a Calvinist it is like listening to a cult leader because they are trying to sell you on false beliefs. Beside the fact that it makes no sense or even have a purpose. Beside the fact that Calvinism portrays God as a monstrous puppet master, it is sacrilegious to God just to edify people that think they are the elect. And then you have the whole sci-fi thing that we are all robots under the control of a deity. Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

I think that Satan would like the idea of God determining who is going to Hell before creation…because it guarantees him a quota. Babies born bound to Hell!

In order to promote this belief they had to come up with a whole list of non-biblical beliefs….Tulip.

T - Stands for Total Depravity

U - Stands for Unconditional Election

L - Stands for Limited Atonement

I - Stands for Irresistible Grace

P - Stands for Perseverance of the Saints

If Calvinism was a true religious belief they would not have to infiltrate churches.

And again….What would be the point? What satisfaction would God take if our faith in Him was forced? What satisfaction would God take if our worship of Him was forced? What satisfaction would God take if our love for Him was forced? The scriptures say there are so many ways we can please the Lord….how could it be pleasing if He forced it?

Satan is a schemer and I suspect it is a ploy of Satan to distract Christians from the truth….to a religion that edifies people and is sacrilegious to God.

Guess I am responding as you engaged, so here.

It cannot possible hurt people as people are saved or not saved by the mercies of God.
And you know people are not spiritually neutral with an unencumbered free will to believe as their minds are blinded by Satan against the gospel, unbelievers have enmity against Christ. notice v3 and v4

v6 are those God has chosen to show mercy and save them.

2 Cor 4
Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor [a]handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God. 3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Enmity is a word not heard often from people like yourself to describe the unbelieving.
It is real important issue though in why people are not interested in getting saved.
Once God regenerates a soul, the enmity against God they had is gone.
Regeneration comes before believing in Christ as your savior. It prepares a person to be taught by God and led to Christ.
Otherwise the enmity - hostility remains.

Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity hostility Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel.”

James 4:4
Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity hostility with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Romans 8
6 For to be [a]carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the [b]carnal mind is enmity hostility against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

 

[Lizbeth]

You. Are. Dismissed.


We have far too many people 'preaching' Jesus already.

Be Jesus.

Be Jesus. ok, what was Jesus like? Was He the teddy bear image you have been taught by your churches and ministers? He went around doing good yes, and He was kind and merciful.....but He also admonished and warned and corrected and rebuked when it was needed. As did the apostles in their writings, especially Paul...didnt' you notice? And it was needed a whole lot in His day and that is why He corrected and rebuked a lot......read your bible bro.......as it is needed in our day too for the same reasons.

Living on a diet of milk for too long means you remain as an infant instead of growing/maturing....it leaves you weak and sleepy and vulnerable to all sort of winds of doctrines and deceptions. Your churches have been ignoring the meat of the word and discipline and fear of the Lord that helps you to grow strong. At a time when a mother of a delusion is forming.....it's alarming.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Your post is Bingo and bullseye brother. Amen!

Sitting home for the election and giving america over to communism is a bingo????
SMH

 

[Mr E]

Be Jesus. ok, what was Jesus like? Was He the teddy bear image you have been taught by your churches and ministers? He went around doing good yes, and He was kind and merciful.....but He also admonished and warned and corrected and rebuked when it was needed. As did the apostles in their writings, especially Paul...didnt' you notice? And it was needed a whole lot in His day and that is why He corrected and rebuked a lot......read your bible bro.......as it is needed in our day too for the same reasons.

Living on a diet of milk for too long means you remain as an infant instead of growing/maturing....it leaves you weak and sleepy and vulnerable to all sort of winds of doctrines and deceptions. Your churches have been ignoring the meat of the word and discipline and fear of the Lord that helps you to grow strong. At a time when a mother of a delusion is forming.....it's alarming.

Missing the point is one thing, but you've missed the point by a mile.

Jesus was entirely political. He stood up against the system-- and it was 'the church people' who rejected him. You get that don't you? If you don't, I can't help you see. Someone could spit in the dirt and rub mud in your eye and you still wouldn't see.

He became a political prisoner, and such a political hot potato that they shuttled him back and forth from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and released another political prisoner in his place.

But good try. Rather desperate attempt honestly-- to try to paint an imaginary picture of 'my church' -which you obviously know nothing about.

 

[Grailhunter]

What Is TULIP?

What do tulips, the love of God, and a centuries-old understanding of salvation have in common? They are all reflected in what has come to be known as the five

www.ligonier.org

No one takes anyone's church over. Some reformed denominations might join into larger groups of churches for the purposes of supporting missions, and others don't (at some churches supporting missions is individual responsibility rather than collective) , but reformed churches aren't subversive and don't hide what the church believes, in fact, they quite openly display it.

If you don't know what something means, like "particular" or "1689" or even "freewill" when looking at Baptist churches you can always ask if what someone teaches in their church concerns you that greatly prior to visiting.

It's fairly easy to understand when you ask.

Like I said you Calvinism does not have

What Is TULIP?

What do tulips, the love of God, and a centuries-old understanding of salvation have in common? They are all reflected in what has come to be known as the five

www.ligonier.org

No one takes anyone's church over. Some reformed denominations might join into larger groups of churches for the purposes of supporting missions, and others don't (at some churches supporting missions is individual responsibility rather than collective) , but reformed churches aren't subversive and don't hide what the church believes, in fact, they quite openly display it.

If you don't know what something means, like "particular" or "1689" or even "freewill" when looking at Baptist churches you can always ask if what someone teaches in their church concerns you that greatly prior to visiting.

It's fairly easy to understand when you ask.

Like I said your not going to find a church with a sign out front that says Calvin church…which makes sense because Calvinism is not a registered denomination…which makes sense because they infiltrate and take over churches….mainly Baptists and Presbyterians and non-denominational. This is something that can be easily verified by people reading this….for example…..from Google….

Is Calvinism a denomination?
Calvinism is a theological orientation, not a denomination or organization. The Puritans were Calvinist. Presbyterians descend from Scottish Calvinists. Many early Baptists were Calvinist.

What is the difference between Calvinism and Baptists?
Calvinists call this the doctrine of “predestination” — the idea that a person's salvation already has been determined. More traditional Baptists say if Jesus died only for the elect, then Baptists' trademark evangelism becomes pointless.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-calvinism-is-dividing-the-southern-baptist-convention_n_3399504#:~:text=Calvinists%20call%20this%20the%20doctrine,Baptists'%20trademark%20evangelism%20becomes%20pointless.

Again there is a big difference between God having the power of predestination and the belief that God made all of reality into a preorchestrated play where every action is controlled by God.

And there is a big difference between God’s power of predestination which is biblical and the Calvin doctrine of predestination which is false.

Again there is a big difference between predestination and clairvoyance.

One of the ramifications of Calvinist beliefs is that, since God determined who is going to Heaven and who is going Hell before creation…it move Judgment Day to before creation.

The Johnny Appleseed of Truth
Be good and do good

 

[Grailhunter]

It cannot possible hurt people as people are saved or not saved by the mercies of God.
And you know people are not spiritually neutral with an unencumbered free will to believe as their minds are blinded by Satan against the gospel, unbelievers have enmity against Christ. notice v3 and v4

Like I explained Calvinism can cause people to lose faith in Christ because if bad things happen they believe God made it happen. And I have seen it happen to families more than once.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

No one knows where the word Jesus came from

It's the english version of His Hebrew Name. There are many translations of His Name in many other languages as well.
The Lord does not teach in His Word that one can only be saved if they use His hebrew Name...

You are way off base claiming people can only be saved by using His hebrew name.. that's false doctrine and is the spirit of anti-christ representing the pharisees and sadducees of old adding things to God's Word that are NOT of God.... you need to get out of the ditch before it's too late for you homie!

Like I explained Calvinism can cause people to lose faith in Christ because if bad things happen they believe God made it happen. And I have seen it happen to families more than once.

Yep, the calvinists teach if it happens... it happened because God wanted it to happen... and trhe same thing is taught in islam.

 

[amigo de christo]

Be Jesus. ok, what was Jesus like? Was He the teddy bear image you have been taught by your churches and ministers? He went around doing good yes, and He was kind and merciful.....but He also admonished and warned and corrected and rebuked when it was needed. As did the apostles in their writings, especially Paul...didnt' you notice? And it was needed a whole lot in His day and that is why He corrected and rebuked a lot......read your bible bro.......as it is needed in our day too for the same reasons.

Living on a diet of milk for too long means you remain as an infant instead of growing/maturing....it leaves you weak and sleepy and vulnerable to all sort of winds of doctrines and deceptions. Your churches have been ignoring the meat of the word and discipline and fear of the Lord that helps you to grow strong. At a time when a mother of a delusion is forming.....it's alarming.

the diet of milk that most live on today , however , aint even the diet of the word to begin with .
It aint even milk sister . its whore squeezed death juice . as is the love they think is love or the liberty they claim as liberty
The problem is most folks aint even suckled from the pure milk of THE WORD to begin with .
Rather they suckled from the words of men , of another jesus , of an image of what they thought was Christ and of the apostels
but rather was twisted doctrines of men who passed it off as the word .
Most folks would even kick the JESUS who talked to the lady in adultery to the curb .
OH sure they might use the examples of judge not condmen not , but EVEN THAT SAME JESUS
said NOW GO and SIN NO MORE . and HE said that a few times with a warning LEST SOMETHING far worse come upon you .
YOU SEE most sit under a jesus that uses some of the words OF JESUS but takes them words to support
both a love and a judge not attitude that wont correct errors and sins but rather overlooks them .
IN fact if you look real closely at the heart of these folks
about the ONLY THING they do is accuse US of what THEY THEMSELVES are guilty of .
THEY JUDGE and CONDMEN us as , and yet all we do is simply warn and correct .
IF you look at the heart of their message of love and etc
YOU WILL SEE IT DOES LOVE ALL RIGHT . a love that cometh of the WORLD , ITS FAST to overlook and even accept error
ITS VERY FAST TO REBUKE and GO AFTER those who do correct . IT EVEN shuns BIBLICAL DOCTRINE
specially if that doctrine exposes certain sins . BUT allow me some parting words .
DID JESUS ever overlook and not correct error and rather focus on trying to g et along and have common ground .
DID GOD ever overlook the sins and errors of JERUSALEM .
WHEN the prophets cried unto the leaders and unto the peoples
was the message , HEY STOP JUDGING , GOD IS LOVE , ALL IS WELL , we just need to come together as one
and love . OR
OR was the message , REPENT FOR WHY WILL YE DIE . GOD NEVER HAS BEEN or ever will be
the minstir of sin . HE warns , the prophets warned , CHRIST warned , the apostels warned .
AND YET just as did the rebellious jews , so to does christendom
THEY OVERLOOK sins and errors , they promise preace , they promise the evil life and none does repent
and they ACCUSE The heck out of .....................................AINT A NOHTING NEW under the sun , IF YA ASK ME .
PLUS check this out . EVERY TIME they correct me its always BASED ON what they see as my approach
and yet the doctrine i bring , THEY CANNOT correct .
THUS it becomes , WELL HE IS THE ACCUSER , HE IS A JUDGER and yet not a word can they speak
against the ACTUAL DOCTRINE i bring . CHRISTENDOM has been well trained and brought up
into a total disaster that is EMOTION led , NOT TRUTH LED .