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amigo de christo

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Which has nothing to do with politics... unless it's someone who looks to the state as being their God as many do.




Just curious... you think Christians should have taken up arms to go to war against Hitler?

Were does this end for you... are you advocating Christians take up arms and take over the world for Jesus???

Rather than loving your enemies and witnessing to them ... let's go kill them?




Sounds like you are starting a "christian" militia who will be attacking the government. View attachment 40796View attachment 40797

And those not on board with this idea are living in sin.
the revolutionary nar prophets know not what they do .
soon exploits will be done , ideals of an uprising . THEN will come the JUSTIFICATION that its time to rid planet earth
of all bible believers . AND OF COURSE they will sell out , it will be lambs like me who would never harm a soul
who never hope in men or govts , that will be rounded up . THESE CLOWNS hope in money and this world and this life
BUT THEY WILL SOON SELL OUT when the IRON CURTAIN slams down .
THE blame will then go to lambs like me . YOU SEE , satan knows what he is doing
and he is using the evangelical realm to encourage uprisings
but HE is lumping ALL OF US INTO that same camp . BY MEANS OF USING THE WORD FUNDAMENTAL .
OH WELL . IF I die i die . BUT I refuse to hope in this world , its men , its govts
and i refuse to encourage even self defense either . YET it will be men like me that are soon seen as MOST DANGEROUS
cause as i wrote above , THEY GONNA LABEL us all extremist .
YOU SEE they gonna use the mantra those who stand to the bible and etc , THEY THE CRAZY ONES
and they gonna label the nar prophets as those who stick to the bible . WHEN THEY NEVER DID to begin with .
OH WELL . I AM GONNA STAY GLUED TO BIBLE DOCTRINE and the cards shall fall as they fall .
I GOT A GOOD HOME and it sure aint here . MY HOPE IS IN THAT KINGDOM . AND IT SURE AINT HERE of this world
 
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= Donald Trump?

In a word, no.

Much love!
never said he or biden did .
JUST saying , YA NEVER KNOW what a man is capable of doing .
The germans never saw it coming . all they saw was a man GIVING CHANGE AND PROSPERITY to their nation .
TOO LITTLE TOO LATE did they see .
TRUMP aint saving us , and BIDEN SURE WONT .
BIBLE UP . cause this world is about to reap what it has sown .
 
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amigo de christo

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= Donald Trump?

In a word, no.

Much love!
you can reason better than this . dont be a liberal and acccuse a man of sayingsomething he never said .
BUT , heck both the conservative realm as well as the liberal realm are fast becoming one anyway .
YOU ALL see correction as sin , you all see UNITY UINITY lets find common ground . THE REALMS WILL MERGE as one
UNDER ANTI CHRIST as it already is merging more and more as one under that which is OFANTI CHRIST .
SO GO on , HOLLER UNITY and common ground and put your hopes in men .
AS FOR ME , ITS BIBLE ONLY and MY HOPE IN CHRIST ALONE .
 
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Just curious... you think Christians should have taken up arms to go to war against Hitler?

Were does this end for you... are you advocating Christians take up arms and take over the world for Jesus???

Rather than loving your enemies and witnessing to them ... let's go kill them?

No answer? You know that's a subversive tactic in order to change the topic away from any potential agreement in fact.

However, I will answer in saying Christians did take up arms to fight Hitler, to stop him from his mass murdering, world conquest loving, take over.

I also think the world is a better place for it myself. I can't imagine God thinking it was wrong, since I believe it was God who granted the victory.

As for when should a Christian take up arms? Honestly until we are in the situation we won't know if it is right for that time.

We can't really do a hypothetical outside of saying I do think there's times we are called upon to physically fight evil.

Is this that time? In my view no, it's not. I believe right now, that if we loose the war for hearts and minds Christians should walk away and watch it burn.

I think if God allows us to fail in this regard, (the war for hearts and minds) then it's an actual judgement that we need to walk away from in order for people understand what they have asked for by actually living it for a while.

But that's just what I'm thinking right now. I could change my view if something big were to make me decide differently.
 
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Since DeSantis is out, clearly if you do not want Biden to be elected, you vote for Trump. A non-vote favors Biden, too much election cheating from democrat operatives trying to sway elections their way.
It's not too late for individual believers to repent of any heart issues around this that they need to though. And I believe many do need to.

I just know that if I were American I would find DT to be very problematic....I doubt my conscience before God as a believer would let me vote for someone like that. Or Biden either.

Jesus is coming soon and this world will be going up in smoke, either that or we die first at the end of this short life which is but a vapour anyhow...... in light of these things we don't need to be as invested in what goes on here as the unbelieving and deceived world is.

These are very troubling times for the church in general brother, I'm very sad and troubled by it all. All I can say and pray is, Lord, have mercy.
 
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Not sure about this "fever", but I'm a very enthusiastic supporter of President Trump, very enthusiastic, and with very good reason. I'm not sensing anything ungodly in my support for him, I simply believe very strongly that this is the man we need fix our political landscape, and many of the problems in this nation, not to mention other nations.

There's no idolatry, just an awareness of facts, and a strongly held opinion. And I know many people just like that.

Much love!
Emotions is what the devil appeals to, that is his tromping ground. It's not righteousness. We need to nail our passions to the cross...die to them. The Lord has been doing that in my life the past year.....I don't like the uncomfortable circumstances I am living in, but i finally realize how it is working for my good. What feels like some kind of punishment is His mercy. And it is His work in me, not that I am deliberately doing anything. I've been praying to change and He has been answering all along in a way that I completely didn't foresee or ask for or imagine, lol. Thank you Lord.

How is Trump or any politician going to fix the political landscape when we live in a democracy if the majority of younger voters coming up are not born again believers who want the same kind of political landscape that believers do? Politics isn't going to solve that problem. The very best we can potentially get with politics is just 4 or 8 years of good policies...just a temporary fix. What would really fix things is if Christians were to repent and become soldiers of the cross again....then we could appeal to the One who raises and lowers kings and kingdoms, and who knows, He might relent and give us better political choices than a rock and hard place.
 
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How is Trump or any politician going to fix the political landscape when we live in a democracy if the majority of younger voters coming up are not born again believers who want the same kind of political landscape that believers do?
Ever hear of the Tytler Circle of Freedom? Western Civilization is between Apathy and Dependence now. Texas is back in bondage.

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Emotions is what the devil appeals to, that is his tromping ground.
Just to say, this isn't really an emotional issue for me. And I'm not in some sort of personal rebellion against my circumstances. But if your house has it's walls falling down, don't you want a good carpenter?

Much love!
 

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It's not too late for individual believers to repent of any heart issues around this that they need to though. And I believe many do need to.
Do you see the politics in the US as a judgment/punishment of Christians?

Much love!
 

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Ever hear of the Tytler Circle of Freedom? Western Civilization is between Apathy and Dependence now. Texas is back in bondage.

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No never heard of it. What I have heard of is the ensample of Israel who always forgot God when she began to prosper because of being blessed. That was kind of cyclical. And it is very relevant to the western world....we are not learning and being admonished by Israel's example, which were written for our admonition. It looks like this diagram is showing something similar if I'm not mistaken...?
 

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Strong people make for good times.
Good times make for weak people.
Weak people make for hard times.
Hard times make for strong people.

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Do you see the politics in the US as a judgment/punishment of Christians?

Much love!
Judgment/chastisement of the church in general because she is largely apostate now, yes, and this might even be the beginning of the strong delusion, which God sends to all who received not a love of the truth. (If not, it's at least the same pattern......due to the same sin basically.)
 

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Just to say, this isn't really an emotional issue for me. And I'm not in some sort of personal rebellion against my circumstances. But if your house has it's walls falling down, don't you want a good carpenter?

Much love!
Yes and Jesus is a carpenter, so let's vote for Him. ;)
 

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Judgment/chastisement of the church in general because she is largely apostate now, yes, and this might even be the beginning of the strong delusion, which God sends to all who received not a love of the truth. (If not, it's at least the same pattern......due to the same sin basically.)
When you say "The church is apostate", are you talking about the regenerate? Or those who just call themselves "Christian"?

Much love!
 

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the revolutionary nar prophets know not what they do .

That's what I was wondering if Hazelelponi is a part of the NAR cult


No answer?

Your question was faulty and did not require an answer.


I will answer in saying Christians did take up arms to fight Hitler

Actually it was secular governments that did that and a lot of Christians joined up to serve their country.

It was not something Christians themselves did as the Lord is not leading His true believers to do what the catholics and the calvinists have done which is to form "christian" armies to go kill people in His Name.


I do think there's times we are called upon to physically fight evil.

You have no scripture showing where the Lord is commanding His people to go out and kill people.

Only in an extreme self defense situation in one's home or in defense of their family would this not be a sin. The Kingdom of God is not of this world . . . Jesus said if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight (John 18:36)


Ever hear of the Tytler Circle of Freedom? Western Civilization is between Apathy and Dependence now. Texas is back in bondage.

That's something you got out of the Book of Speculations

And, it's the blue states that are in bondage and going downhill fast.
 
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