CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

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Ritajanice

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Ok... but throughout life you have occasion to describe your beliefs.

I was with a friend being entered into a hospital for testing and they asked him what his faith was.

They were not looking for Baptist, Lutheran or such they wanted "Christian"...Catholic... Jew or some such as that

You say, and understandably so, "I can’t relate to Christian, I can only relate to be being “ Born Again “"

But are there anyone else other than Christians that are "born again"?
A Christian is not Born Again.

I was told I was a Christian growing up...therefore I went with it.....a Born Again has a Living relationship with God via his Spirit, would you agree with that?

If you do how would we know that we have this Living relationship with God via the Holy Spirit?
You are not going to be born again without Jesus in your life.... or do you disagree with that.
You must accept Him.. do you not? You must accept what His shed blood did you do you not? Has He not generally been referred to as Christ Jesus or Jesus, the Christ?

We are not going to be Born Again without Jesus...I did no accepting...I was drawn to Jesus by God, I was brought to repentance/ Godly sorrow by God, I was brought to believe in Jesus by God,God is the initiator, I was Born Again when I received the gift of Faith a manifestation of the Spirit, I did not choose God he chose me to become Born Again....
Do you disagree with ... Christ is a title that means "the anointed one" or "the chosen one". Christ Jesus or Jesus Christ is the human name and the title of Jesus, the Messiah, who came to save us from sin and deliver us from Satan.
Not sure about the human name, Jesus blood had to be shed in order for us to be reconciled back to God, therefore his death and resurrection is what reconciles us back to God...

Jesus came to deliver us from the first Adams sin...Jesus was the second Adam....who came to deliver us from the law of sin and death.

Romans 8:2
Audio Crossref Comment Greek
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death.

New Living Translation
And because you belong to him, the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you from the power of sin that leads to death.

English Standard Version
For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.

Berean Standard Bible
For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set you free from the law of sin and death.



That’s my take on it.
The term Christian comes from Christ.

You simply should think in terms of being a born again Christian, for if you just say you are born again many will not even know what you are talking about. (Truth be told a lot don't even know what a born again Christian is... Boy, could I tell stories)

You are 100% correct to say you must be born again to see the Kingdom of Heaven, but you cannot discount a simple belief in Christ Jesus like the thief had.

I think it safe to say here that no one thinks you do not need to be born again to see the Kingdom of Heaven... Jesus told that to Nicodemus ...( paraphrased) "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, unless a person is born again [reborn from above—spiritually transformed, renewed, sanctified], he cannot [ever] see and experience the kingdom of God."

Where am I wrong?
God is the one who knows what he is talking about.
I go by his word..I’m Born Again, why would I care what others think?
Or if my being Born Again makes no sense to anyone?

My Sons know I’m Born Again, they don’t think I’m odd...even if they did, that would be their problem.

I would never deny that I’m Born Again..to fit in with others.

I’m a child of God and am used for his purpose and plan..I’m a vessel that he uses in whatever way is pleasing to him...

A Born Again is all about glorifying the Father...and serving God according to his will for our lives.
We have a Living relationship with God via his Spirit...
 
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A true Christian is in fact born again.
Show scripture where God says a true Christian is Born Again?

I was brought up a Christian, I was not Born Again and did not have a Living relationship with God as a Christian.

I had to become Born Again to see the Kingdom of God and have a Living relationship with God via his Holy Spirit.

When I’m admitted into hospital..i sign in as Born Again....and forms that I fill in that ask for my religious belief, I’m Born Again and have a Living relationship with God, via his Spirit.

I am his adopted child and belong to him , I was bought at a price...Jesus/was his name .he shed his blood and died, then was resurrected....without that...there would be no Born Again of the Spirit.
 
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Are you aware that Jesus died for the sins of his Born Again children?
Are you aware that we aren’t under the law we are under grace?

I have the mind of Christ, and have a new heart/ Spirit within...what has that got to do with my thoughts being pure?

I have been forgiven of all sin,past, present and future....washed in the blood of Jesus ,purified from all sin.
You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.

Hebrews 10:22-24 ERV​

Sprinkled with the blood of Christ, our hearts have been made free from a guilty conscience, and our bodies have been washed with pure water. So come near to God with a sincere heart, full of confidence because of our faith in Christ. We must hold on to the hope we have, never hesitating to tell people about it. We can trust God to do what he promised. We should think about each other to see how we can encourage each other to show love and do good works.

Romans 8​

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8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
If you believe that we are perfect and complete "In Christ" then why are you so concerned about sin?
 

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If you believe that we are perfect and complete "In Christ" then why are you so concerned about sin?
Spiritually we are perfect in Christ. But we still live with the flesh. Our own sin and the sins of others still effect our lives here on earth, though our eternal life is secure. The Bible instructs us to not sin and to be loving and kind. Are we always loving? No. The simple choice to love or not to love someone in need is an example of obedience and disobedience to His commandment. We pass the homeless and say no. "Can you help us to move? Sorry, I made previous plans or my back is out of whack." We are selfish at times. Are we always salt and light? No, I've been a jerk at times and not too generous when I should be. But we confess our sins and failures and practice to do better.
 
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Spiritually we are perfect in Christ. But we still live with the flesh. Our own sin and the sins of others still effect our lives here on earth, though our eternal life is secure. The Bible instructs us to not sin and to be loving and kind. Are we always loving? No. The simple choice to love or not to love someone in need is an example of obedience and disobedience to His commandment. We pass homeless and say no. "Can you help is to move? Sorry, I made previous plans or my back out of whack." We are selfish at times. Are we always salt and light? No, I've been a jerk at times and not too generous when I should be. But we confess our sins and failures and practice to do better.
Yes we are perfected in Christ, our relationship as we are joined as one spirit with God, in an embrace that cannot be severed.
Christ tells us he gives us eternal life and we will never perish in hell

Our body though is dead in sin, as it is not saved. We get a new body at the resurrection. But through His mercy he keeps it breathing for a while longer.

1 Cor 3
9 For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, you are God’s building. 10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. 11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone [b]defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.
 
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Hebrews 10:14
For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.

What is perfected forever? Our spirits, not our body of flesh we still have. My body definitely is not perfect, I have issues!
 
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A Christian is not Born Again.

I was told I was a Christian growing up...therefore I went with it.....a Born Again has a Living relationship with God via his Spirit, would you agree with that?

If you do how would we know that we have this Living relationship with God via the Holy Spirit?


We are not going to be Born Again without Jesus...I did no accepting...I was drawn to Jesus by God, I was brought to repentance/ Godly sorrow by God, I was brought to believe in Jesus by God,God is the initiator, I was Born Again when I received the gift of Faith a manifestation of the Spirit, I did not choose God he chose me to become Born Again....

Not sure about the human name, Jesus blood had to be shed in order for us to be reconciled back to God, therefore his death and resurrection is what reconciles us back to God...

Jesus came to deliver us from the first Adams sin...Jesus was the second Adam....who came to deliver us from the law of sin and death.

Romans 8:2
Audio Crossref Comment Greek
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death.

New Living Translation
And because you belong to him, the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you from the power of sin that leads to death.

English Standard Version
For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.

Berean Standard Bible
For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set you free from the law of sin and death.



That’s my take on it.

God is the one who knows what he is talking about.
I go by his word..I’m Born Again, why would I care what others think?
Or if my being Born Again makes no sense to anyone?

My Sons know I’m Born Again, they don’t think I’m odd...even if they did, that would be their problem.

I would never deny that I’m Born Again..to fit in with others.

I’m a child of God and am used for his purpose and plan..I’m a vessel that he uses in whatever way is pleasing to him...

A Born Again is all about glorifying the Father...and serving God according to his will for our lives.
We have a Living relationship with God via his Spirit...
I know what your saying. My sister-in-law calls herself a Christian, goes to an Episcopal church, is a fierce supporter of LGBTQ lifestyles. I shared some verses like John 3 18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

However she says that is a LIE, those words are purported to Christ and He never said them. That God saves people who don't believe in Christ if they are good people. I found it very sad, and she was mad I told her. And she is not born again yet.
 
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Paul calls some false brethren. Yes it can be dangerous if you find yourself among false brethren.

25 Three times I was beaten with rods; once I was stoned; three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I have been in the deep; 26 in journeys often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils of my own countrymen, in perils of the Gentiles, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; 27 in weariness and toil, in sleeplessness often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness—


Galatians 2:3-5

3 Yet not even Titus who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised. 4 And this occurred because of false brethren secretly brought in (who came in by stealth to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage), 5 to whom we did not yield submission even for an hour, that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
 

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1 Corinthians 5

Immorality Must Be Judged​

9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to [f]keep company with sexually immoral people. 10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? 13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”
 

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Our body though is dead in sin, as it is not saved
It’s our spirit that is Born Again and saved from eternal damnation.

We will be resurrected like Jesus with a new heavenly body.

This body that we live in, will go back into the ground from whence it came...

2 Corinthians 5:1-6 NLT​

For we know that when this earthly tent we live in is taken down (that is, when we die and leave this earthly body), we will have a house in heaven, an eternal body made for us by God himself and not by human hands. We grow weary in our present bodies, and we long to put on our heavenly bodies like new clothing. For we will put on heavenly bodies; we will not be spirits without bodies. While we live in these earthly bodies, we groan and sigh, but it’s not that we want to die and get rid of these bodies that clothe us. Rather, we want to put on our new bodies so that these dying bodies will be swallowed up by life. God himself has prepared us for this, and as a guarantee he has given us his Holy Spirit. So we are always confident, even though we know that as long as we live in these bodies we are not at home with the Lord.
 
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It’s our spirit that is Born Again and saved from eternal damnation.

We will be resurrected like Jesus with a new heavenly body.

This body that we live in, will go back into the ground from whence it came...

2 Corinthians 5:1-6 NLT​

For we know that when this earthly tent we live in is taken down (that is, when we die and leave this earthly body), we will have a house in heaven, an eternal body made for us by God himself and not by human hands. We grow weary in our present bodies, and we long to put on our heavenly bodies like new clothing. For we will put on heavenly bodies; we will not be spirits without bodies. While we live in these earthly bodies, we groan and sigh, but it’s not that we want to die and get rid of these bodies that clothe us. Rather, we want to put on our new bodies so that these dying bodies will be swallowed up by life. God himself has prepared us for this, and as a guarantee he has given us his Holy Spirit. So we are always confident, even though we know that as long as we live in these bodies we are not at home with the Lord.
Yes, good riddance. People may not feel that in their bones like when they are young and healthy, but when they are sickly or old they understand this better.
 
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Are you accusing me of being sickly and old?..LOL.

Hehehe.
Just a general observation. While the promise of eternal life is for the believers who do not fear death, unbelievers are of another mind, try to prolong their earthly life as long as possible. I had a friend that seriously thought someday doctors would transplant people's heads onto younger cloned bodies, to keep living indefinitely, image that.
 
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I have found that many who profess Christ as their savior are trying to do in their flesh what God has already done in Jesus Christ. We have ALREADY been reconciled unto God. We have ALREADY been justified, sanctified and redeemed. God ALREADY sees us as perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10. I think that it is called "Entering into his rest" Hebrews 4:9-10.
 

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A Christian is not Born Again.
Let us consider this a little more, and see if we can convince you of your unscriptural saying that a Christian is not born again.

I could understand this statement coming from certain groups who hold to the Jews religion, and others cults as well, but not from a person who confesses the NT and Jesus Christ and salvation through him which you do base on your words even in this post I'm quoting.

Please consider the following:

Acts 11:26~“And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.”
Do you know the meaning of the word Christian? Christian is a name of Latin origin that means "follower of Christ."

So, I ask you are you a follower of Jesus Christ, yes or not? Again, please consider....Acts 11:26~“And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.”

We know by reading the scriptures they were called among themselves, the disciples, brethren, believers, the church and by others the Nazarenes, and Galilaeans: whether this name of Christians, "which comes from Christ, and signifies anointed ones", was given by their enemies, or their friends, by others, or themselves, is not certain, though it is most likely the latter.

Knowing this, I ask why are you so opposed to the name Christian (s), and being so much opposed, you even reject them being born of God, which, which shows your misconception of the very meaning of the word?

I will add this: A born again person is a Christian, yet not as professing Christians are born of God~only those who are doers of the word and not hearers only are of God.

a Born Again has a Living relationship with God via his Spirit, would you agree with that?
Yes

If you do how would we know that we have this Living relationship with God via the Holy Spirit?
By reading the scriptures alone and believing what they are saying, is the only means we can have assurance that we are of God, or not. God does not speak to our spirits apart from his written word, no such thing as one hearing God speaking to them apart from his written word. The Pentecostals are living under a strong delusion since they mainly push an extra biblical revelation from God, that comes apart from his written word.

We are not going to be Born Again without Jesus...I did no accepting...I was drawn to Jesus by God, I was brought to repentance/ Godly sorrow by God, I was brought to believe in Jesus by God,God is the initiator, I was Born Again when I received the gift of Faith a manifestation of the Spirit, I did not choose God he chose me to become Born Again....
Almost a perfect confession~we were born again while we were dead in sins and trespassess apart from even knowing that we had the power to believe, or as you said it~when I received the gift of Faith~but what a person receives at regeneration is the power to believe from that point forward, but not until then. John 1:12

But that power lies within the new man that God creates within those he regenerates by his power, the same power that brought again the Lord Jesus Christ from the dead. Ephesians 1:18-20.

Not sure about the human name,
Rita, then you need to do your homework and consider why folks who have faith in Jesus are called Christians~and not be overly concern that there are multitudes of professing Christians that do not truly believe in the scriptures, yet desire to have a hope of eternal life by being religious and going by that worthy, sacred, holy name~CHRISTian.

Jesus' blood had to be shed in order for us to be reconciled back to God, therefore his death and resurrection is what reconciles us back to God...

Jesus came to deliver us from the first Adams sin...Jesus was the second Adam....who came to deliver us from the law of sin and death.
Amen! A very solid confession.

God is the one who knows what he is talking about.
I go by his word..I’m Born Again, why would I care what others think?
Or if my being Born Again makes no sense to anyone?

My Sons know I’m Born Again, they don’t think I’m odd...even if they did, that would be their problem.

I would never deny that I’m Born Again..to fit in with others.

I’m a child of God and am used for his purpose and plan..I’m a vessel that he uses in whatever way is pleasing to him...

A Born Again is all about glorifying the Father...and serving God according to his will for our lives.
We have a Living relationship with God via his Spirit...
Mainly through the written word of God by his Spirit guiding, empowering us according to his word.
 

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Paul calls some false brethren. Yes it can be dangerous if you find yourself among false brethren.

25 Three times I was beaten with rods; once I was stoned; three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I have been in the deep; 26 in journeys often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils of my own countrymen, in perils of the Gentiles, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; 27 in weariness and toil, in sleeplessness often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness—


Galatians 2:3-5

3 Yet not even Titus who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised. 4 And this occurred because of false brethren secretly brought in (who came in by stealth to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage), 5 to whom we did not yield submission even for an hour, that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
Those were not "false" Christians. They were Jews, his kinsmen according to the flesh, Judaizers.
 

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Lets explore a little how God gifts to us our faith.

Romans 10:17
So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

More context

16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?” 17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

18 But I say, have they not heard? Yes indeed:

“Their sound has gone out to all the earth,
And their words to the ends of the world.
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They however still did not believe the report even though they heard the preaching, so it is MORE than just people preaching the message for how we get faith.

They had no ears to hear the message, having ears to hear is something God must gift to us.
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Matthew 11:15 He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

Deuteronomy 29
2 Now Moses called all Israel and said to them: “You have seen all that the Lord did before your eyes in the land of Egypt, to Pharaoh and to all his servants and to all his land— 3 the great trials which your eyes have seen, the signs, and those great wonders. 4 Yet the Lord has not given you a heart to [a]perceive and eyes to see and ears to hear, to this very day.

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Still they did not believe and Moses tell us why.
Now back to this
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Romans 10:17
So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

The Greek word for word is RHEMA, which means the spoken word. The other Greek word is LOGOS as in written word.

Rhema​

Despite the fact that Rhema was translated as “Word” in the Bible just like logos, it has a very different meaning. While logos is the written Word spoken in the past, rhema is the Word that God is speaking to us personally; it is the word burning in our hearts. Let us look at a few passages in the New Testament where the word rhema is used.

Jesus answered: It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word (rhema) that comes from the mouth of God.’ (Matthew 4:4)
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In essence
Faith comes by hearing God speak to you.
You cannot hear God speak to you unless God gives you ears to hear God speak
Our faith then comes directly from God.
God speaks our faith into us by His word to us, from His spirit to our spirits, this is an active word of power into our very being. He communicates to us spiritually the message from His Spirit to our regenerated spirits the deep things of God
 

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Let us consider this a little more, and see if we can convince you of your unscriptural saying that a Christian is not born again.

Show me where it is scriptural that a Christian is Born Again.

You saying a Christian is a Born Again is unscriptural.that is your word and void of Gods truth.
I could understand this statement coming from certain groups who hold to the Jews religion, and others cults as well, but not from a person who confesses the NT and Jesus Christ and salvation through him which you do base on your words even in this post I'm quoting.

Please consider the following:


Do you know the meaning of the word Christian? Christian is a name of Latin origin that means "follower of Christ."

So, I ask you are you a follower of Jesus Christ, yes or not? Again, please consider....Acts 11:26~“And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.”

I ask you, show me where God says we must be a Christian to see the Kingdom of God?
We know by reading the scriptures they were called among themselves, the disciples, brethren, believers, the church and by others the Nazarenes, and Galilaeans: whether this name of Christians, "which comes from Christ, and signifies anointed ones", was given by their enemies, or their friends, by others, or themselves, is not certain, though it is most likely the latter.

Knowing this, I ask why are you so opposed to the name Christian (s), and being so much opposed, you even reject them being born of God, which, which shows your misconception of the very meaning of the word?
Because a “ Christian “ is “ NOT” Born Again!...

Born of God is scriptural....being a Christian is not ...my question is, why aren’t “ you” understanding what Born Again means?
Clearly you don’t, from my own observations of your posts.

We are talking about the now, those on earth now!!...we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom of God, you argue with Gods word and you won’t win over the word of God.
I will add this: A born again person is a Christian, yet not as professing Christians are born of God~only those who are doers of the word and not hearers only are of God.
Show it in the word of God?..a Christian is not Born Again.
Yes


By reading the scriptures alone and believing what they are saying, is the only means we can have assurance that we are of God, or not. God does not speak to our spirits apart from his written word, no such thing as one hearing God speaking to them apart from his written word. The Pentecostals are living under a strong delusion since they mainly push an extra biblical revelation from God, that comes apart from his written word.
By becoming Born Again by the Holy Spirit is how we know we are Born Again, scripture reading does not make you Born Again.

We must receive the Spiritual rebirth...you do not read scripture for that to happen.

Your faith is dead without the Spirit, Gods word says, without the Spirit we are none of His.

Which means what exactly?
Almost a perfect confession~we were born again while we were dead in sins and trespassess apart from even knowing that we had the power to believe, or as you said it~when I received the gift of Faith~but what a person receives at regeneration is the power to believe from that point forward, but not until then. John 1:12

But that power lies within the new man that God creates within those he regenerates by his power, the same power that brought again the Lord Jesus Christ from the dead. Ephesians 1:18-20.
You do not confess to being Born Again...that is an act that only God can do.
Rita, then you need to do your homework and consider why folks who have faith in Jesus are called Christians~and not be overly concern that there are multitudes of professing Christians that do not truly believe in the scriptures, yet desire to have a hope of eternal life by being religious and going by that worthy, sacred, holy name~CHRISTian.
There is no faith in God without God given faith, a manifestation of the Spirit.

Manifests where?

Human faith is dead...
Amen! A very solid confession.


Mainly through the written word of God by his Spirit guiding, empowering us according to his word.
Nonsense.

What would happen to you if you were unable to read Gods word?
 
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