How do conservative evangelicals reconcile their support for Trump with Trump’s sinful lifestyle?

[TLHKAJ]

We are a Christian Nation,

Nearly 100% of our "founding fathers" were freemasons whose god was lucifer.... that is still the case today. All you have to do is look at the architecture of DC, and every state town square has symbolism that lets each other know who they really serve...

I believe there will be a remnant ......after judgment.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

And this United States of America is Not Israel.

To whom much is given, much is required (Luke 12:48) so this nation will be judged harshly.

Especially since the majority of those in this nation that claim to be Christians... are following a different jesus and espouse a different gospel.

 

[Ziggy]

Nearly 100% of our "founding fathers" were freemasons whose god was lucifer.... that is still the case today. All you have to do is look at the architecture of DC, and every state town square has symbolism that lets each other know who they really serve...

I believe there will be a remnant ......after judgment.

Going to make me go digging again.
You don't know how much I appreciate that. I learn new things everyday.
Philadelphia, PA was the capital of the US until 1800. The Declaration of Independence was written in 1776.
The Constitution was written in 1789. Before the capital moved to DC.
Ok here we go....

The Residence Act of July 16, 1790, put the nation's capital in current-day Washington as part of a plan to appease pro-slavery states who feared a northern capital as being too sympathetic to abolitionists.

The City of Brotherly Love became the ex-capital for several reasons: the machinations of Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson; the compromise over slavery; a concern about public health; and a grudge against the Pennsylvania state government were all factors in the move.

How Philadelphia lost the nation’s capital to Washington | Constitution Center

It’s a sad day for some historically minded Philadelphians: It's the anniversary of the congressional act that moved the nation’s capital from their city to Washington, D.C.

constitutioncenter.org

Founded on July 16, 1790, Washington, DC is unique among American cities because it was established by the Constitution of the United States to serve as the nation’s capital. You can read the actual line at the National Archives. From its beginning, it has been embroiled in political maneuvering, sectional conflicts and issues of race, national identity, compromise and, of course, power.

Like many decisions in American history, the location of the new city was to be a compromise: Alexander Hamilton and northern states wanted the new federal government to assume Revolutionary War debts, and Thomas Jefferson and southern states who wanted the capital placed in a location friendly to slave-holding agricultural interests.

President George Washington chose the exact site along the Potomac and Anacostia Rivers, and the city was officially founded in 1790 after both Maryland and Virginia ceded land to this new “district,” to be distinct and distinguished from the rest of the states. To design the city, he appointed Pierre Charles L’Enfant, who presented a vision for a bold, modern city featuring grand boulevards (now the streets named for states) and ceremonial spaces reminiscent of another great world capital, L’Enfant’s native Paris. He planned a grid system, at which the center would be the Capitol building.

Even before coming of age, DC was nearly completely destroyed. During the War of 1812 against Great Britain, enemy forces invaded the city and burned much of it to the ground, including the newly completed White House, the Capitol and the Library of Congress (including all of its books). Thomas Jefferson later replenished the library’s collection by selling off his entire library for $23,950 in 1815.

In 1901, the city proposed the McMillan Plan, which set out to fully complete L’Enfant’s original designs. This included a redesign and expansion of the National Mall, now the crown jewel of DC. The city continued to expand and develop during the rest of the 20th century, though it suffered riots and civil unrest in the ‘60s and ‘70s, and many residents left inner city areas for the suburbs. Today, these downtown areas are undergoing an urban renaissance, and many people are moving back into Washington itself.

The History of Washington, DC | Washington DC

washington.org

Pierre "Peter" Charles L'Enfant (French: [pjɛʁ ʃɑʁl lɑ̃fɑ̃]; August 2, 1754 – June 14, 1825) was an American-French military engineer who in 1791 designed the basic plan for Washington, D.C., the capital city of the United States. His work is known today as the L'Enfant Plan.[1] He also inspired the street plan for Detroit, Michigan.[A]

While L'Enfant was in New York City, he was initiated into Freemasonry. His initiation took place on April 17, 1789, at Holland Lodge No. 8, F & A M, which the Grand Lodge of New York F & A M had chartered in 1787. L'Enfant took only the first of three degrees offered by the Lodge and did not progress further in Freemasonry.

Pierre Charles L'Enfant - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Ziggy]

To whom much is given, much is required (Luke 12:48) so this nation will be judged harshly.

Especially since the majority of those in this nation that claim to be Christians... are following a different jesus and espouse a different gospel.

How many other nations have more christians than this one?
Just curious
Hugs

 

[TLHKAJ]

How many other nations have more christians than this one?
Just curious
Hugs

America likely has the most professing Christians, but nations where there is actual persecution, like China ....those would be true Christians, willing to serve God in the face of persecution and threat of death. (Survivors of MK/SRA who choose God can relate very much.) Most American Christians have no clue what persecution is. I believe that will change. That's why I say there will be a remnant ...persecution will reveal a lot.

 

[Ziggy]

How I became a conspiracy theorist.

I'm not exactly sure, but I believe I was in my early 20's and I was doing some home bible correspondence courses.
I believe it was through The Church of God.
I was also getting a lot of those little bible tracts at the time.
I was reading about Sunday and the Mark of the Beast, and Rome and the Papacy....
My first marriage wasn't great, and I worked a lot. I had a little one who my mom and I would share in the raising and babysitting of.
So the weekends, living in the city, not much happening, I decided to start looking into prophecy from a lot of different places.
The construction of DC and the Washington monument you know that big looking penis sticking up in the air, which is identical to the one in front of the Vatican? Yeah, so I think that's when I began to follow conspiracy theories.

Not much has changed in the last almost 40 years, except now I rely more on the bible and it's own interpretation, than I do with all these other assumptions and imaginations of men.
Are some of them right? Probably, could be. But I want to know for myself, not because someone said it is so.
So like above, I love to research stuff. And I fell for that design in DC where the capital is located in the center of the devils square with the streets running in directions to create that design.

National Treasure with Nicholas Cage, now that's another one of those movies I can watch 100 times.

I'm looking at the plans of this L'enfant who was the architect of the original plan. And it don't look anything like those designs I've seen in books that are filled with all kinds of omens, if you know what I mean.

So somewhere in the 1900's they decided to rebuild what had been destroyed and I don't know what this McMillan Plan looks like, I haven't gotten that far yet. So I don't believe it was the founding father's who designed the final structure of L'enfant's plan.
It's been being modified and even now is since it's inception.

All I'm saying is, sometimes rabbit holes son't lead anywhere, no matter how hard you search.
And other times those tunnels go so deep, they'll bend your mind.
I believe the original design of Washington DC, is nothing like what we accuse the founding father's of building.

But that's my opinion. And I think I'm going to put at least this conspiracy theory to rest in my mind.
Until new earth is uncovered and more bones are found.

I will say, Something wicked this way comes from DC. I don't think it's the structures though, I think it's the people that inhabit it, and what goes on in them there halls.

I love diggin
Hugs

 

[TLHKAJ]

How I became a conspiracy theorist.

And when you dig in the right places, you discover conspiracy "theories" are conspiracy facts. ;)

 

[TLHKAJ]

 

[Ziggy]

Read the scriptures. Babylon won't come down by our hands. God said to come out because judgment is coming. It will fall, though. That system will never hold the solution. We can't fight Babylon with Babylon.

Sister, we aren't in Babylon if we are in Christ.
You can't be in 2 places at the same time.

The babylon world I lived in before I knew Jesus doesn't exist in me anymore.
But the babylon that is in the world tries to overcome us through deception, lies, and enticements.
I can not give myself to babylon, because I am not my own self to do with as I would.
I gave my life to Jesus and even thoug I live in babylon, I am not of babylon.
I have come out of her my people.
And We the People need to come out of her as well.
That's why I say we need a Revival.
I see people turning more and more to the Lord the darker the days are getting.
I also see more people turning towards and running to babylon.
We are witnessing the seperating of the wheat and the tares.
The harvest is not far behind.


Rev 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Rev 18:5
For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Rev 18:6
Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
Rev 18:7
How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
Rev 18:8
Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Reward her even as she rewarded you... who is doing the rewarding? My People.
Do you know what the greatest sorrow and torment you can reward evil with is? A cup of cold water... or Love.
It is Babylon that falls, not God's people.
We will burn her with the word of God and his righteousness.

Rev 18:11
And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
Rev 18:12
The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
Rev 18:13
And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
Rev 18:14
And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

No more Pay for Play, no more backroom deals, no more human trafficking, no more drug overdoses and addictions.
No more corporations robbing us blind, no more injustice and hatred in our land.

It is not us who weep and mourn, it is the world that weeps for Babylon. Because we will cleanse her, by the power of God in us.

God created the earth for man, and he will set it on fire with His Love and His justice, and His mercy.
And the world will have Peace for awhile.
And someday, the temptation to make war, and create famines, and to rob and steal, will have to be overcome again.
Because Satan will be loosed upon the earth for a short time.

It could be that that short time is now. And his time began in AD 70 when the temple in Jerusalem was torn down.
And this could be the final battle.
If we fall, the world falls too.

I don't believe God is going to let that happen.
But if we don't stand together as one man, as was done in the old days:
Jdg 6:16
And the LORD said unto him, Surely I will be with thee, and thou shalt smite the Midianites as one man.

And now:
Rev 12:7
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

And our war is not with flesh and blood,
Eph 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

If we don't put on the armor of God:
Eph 6:13
Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

We will overcome. And we will watch Babylon fall. And when it does. We will still be standing with the Lord.

God Bless the USA and his people Abraham's seed.

Can you see this? I can.
You can't fight hate with hate.
It is Love that will win the day. And hate will fall and be no more.
And we will prevail.

Have faith.
Trust God.
Hugs

 

[BlessedPeace]

It's funny you say that. I been having a very verbal argument with the committee while I been watching.
I am reminding them that it is We the People that gave them those seats to serve us. And this is what we want.
#1 Close the border.
#2 Close the ports of entry and no commerce will commence between US Mexico and Canad until the cartels are removed.
If mexico wants to trade or Canada wants to trade, they have to clean up their side.
#3. Finish the wall. No more get aways.
etc, etc,
And if they don't enforce the laws of the land, then they all will find themselves searching for other jobs.
And if the lobbyists are trying to persuade them through positions or money, we will find out who those lobbyists are and we will boycott their businesses until they have no job.
The domino effect.
We the People aren't taking this crap anymore. Either you serve us or you're FIRED!
No more debate, no more arguments. Just DO YOUR JOB!

LOL
Good thing I live in the woods, my neighbors would probably think I'm crazy. lol
Hugs

While others think you'd serve well as Trump's VP. ;) :)

 

[Ziggy]

If the cornerstone was laid in 1923, how is it they say Wahington laid the cornerstone if he died in 1799?

Interesting video. I'm not very educated with the freemasons. I know here in New England, and in Maine, there are a lot of Lodges around.
And there were many in Boston where I grew up. I never had any interaction with them or knew anyone affiliated with them.
I did have my first sip of a Heineken Beer at a Knights of Columbus pub around the age of 17. I don't like beer or any alcohol.
But someone ordered it and I didn't want to be rude. One sip was enough.

I don't know any history of either of them.
I did notice in the video in one of the paintings, the all seeing eye and the checkerboard floor.
Symbolism will be their downfall. And a lot of idolatry.
Not surprised they hang the flag of the UK, but the American flag was not among them. That I found odd.

To me it sounds like another religion with rituals and symbolism. I need more shovels lol

The religious views of George Washington have long been debated. While some of the other Founding Fathers of the United States, such as Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and Patrick Henry, were noted for writing about religion, Washington rarely discussed his religious and philosophical views.

Washington attended the Anglican Church through all of his life, and was baptized as an infant. He was a member of several churches which he attended, and served as an Anglican vestryman and warden for more than fifteen years, when Virginia had an established church. As a young man he also joined the Freemasons, which also promoted spiritual and moral values for society. His personal letters and public speeches sometimes referred to "Providence", a term for God used by both Christians and deists.

Religious views of George Washington - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thank you for sharing

Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

While others think you'd serve well as Trump's VP. ;) :)

I rather be here with you guys.

Hugs

 

[Writer]

Regarding Trumps sins: "Let one of you without sin cast the first stone". If Trump was perfect, his name would be Jesus. Pick one of your hero's of faith and ask him/her if they're sinless. One of the greatest sinners approved by God was Rahab the harlot, a Gentile, a child of the enemies of God and His people, yet God used her in the bloodline of Jesus. Are you going to judge God now? Grow up!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

One of the greatest sinners approved by God was Rahab the harlot

Yeah, and she turned from her sin and quit... living in sin!

 

[Ziggy]

Yeah, and she turned from her sin and quit... living in sin!

You been following these lawsuit court cases against Trump.
These judges in these cases are worse than the high priests that brought false accusations against Jesus.
Melania's Mother passed away and the funeral was yesterday. So Trump had petitioned the Judge to rescedule yesterdays trial day for one day, so that he could attend the funeral with his wife. And the judge said, no. Either you come to the trial or you go to the funeral.
Here check this out. These people aren't worthy to wear a judges robe.
So we judge Trump but not his accusers. Interesting.

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You should follow along with this scam lawsuit E.Jean Carroll is bringing.
The underhanded tactics of Jack Smith. And the media attacks.
And this Fanni with her boyfriend Wade conspiring with the WH to bring Trump down in a fraud case where there was no fraud.
It's incredible.
Anyone with an ounce of righteous justice in their heart, knows that what their doing is wrong.
All these cases are simply lawfare, like warfare, except they use the law unrightously.
But I suppose you would have to have an ounce of righteous knowledge in yourself to hear it.
You would have to have some sense of righteous justice in yourself to see it.

But like the Pharisees and Saducees and Priests in Jesus day's, most people today are deaf and blind.
And they don't care how many laws they break to go after someone they consider a threat to themselves.

And then there was the 2nd Impeachment hearing yesterday for Mayorkas and the border crisis.
He has broken laws of the Constitution, and the Democrats want to cry about policies.
It's not policies, Mayorkas has broken the laws of the land and they don't want to hold him accountable, even though thousands of people are dying from overdoses and being attacked by MS-13 gang members.

Yeah, our justice system is totally broken.

There are measures and balances. And the punishment should fit the crime.
But Trump has not been charged with any crimes and they are persecuting him.
And others who are charged with crimes, recieve gifts and freedom.

And they wonder why we defend Trump?
It's not because Trump is sinless and a saint. It's because the justice system and the media in this country is abominable.

Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

Decent conversations on both sides this morning on Washington Journal, open forum.
Feeling the pulse of America. We're not that divided. In my opinion.
Enjoy
Hugs

Washington Journal: News Headlines and Viewer Calls

Viewers commented on news of the day.

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[Big Boy Johnson]

It's not because Trump is sinless and a saint. It's because the justice system and the media in this country is abominable.

And... this is part of God's judgement on a nation that has turned it's back on God!

To whom much is given, much is required. (Luke 12:48)

The vast majority for what is claimed to be Christianity in this nation is walking in darkness.

And so, we get bad leaders and bad government as a result.

This nation is reaping what it has sown... when darkness is sown, darkness is reaped.

 

[BlessedPeace]

You been following these lawsuit court cases against Trump.
These judges in these cases are worse than the high priests that brought false accusations against Jesus.
Melania's Mother passed away and the funeral was yesterday. So Trump had petitioned the Judge to rescedule yesterdays trial day for one day, so that he could attend the funeral with his wife. And the judge said, no. Either you come to the trial or you go to the funeral.
Here check this out. These people aren't worthy to wear a judges robe.
So we judge Trump but not his accusers. Interesting.

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You should follow along with this scam lawsuit E.Jean Carroll is bringing.
The underhanded tactics of Jack Smith. And the media attacks.
And this Fanni with her boyfriend Wade conspiring with the WH to bring Trump down in a fraud case where there was no fraud.
It's incredible.
Anyone with an ounce of righteous justice in their heart, knows that what their doing is wrong.
All these cases are simply lawfare, like warfare, except they use the law unrightously.
But I suppose you would have to have an ounce of righteous knowledge in yourself to hear it.
You would have to have some sense of righteous justice in yourself to see it.

But like the Pharisees and Saducees and Priests in Jesus day's, most people today are deaf and blind.
And they don't care how many laws they break to go after someone they consider a threat to themselves.

And then there was the 2nd Impeachment hearing yesterday for Mayorkas and the border crisis.
He has broken laws of the Constitution, and the Democrats want to cry about policies.
It's not policies, Mayorkas has broken the laws of the land and they don't want to hold him accountable, even though thousands of people are dying from overdoses and being attacked by MS-13 gang members.

Yeah, our justice system is totally broken.

There are measures and balances. And the punishment should fit the crime.
But Trump has not been charged with any crimes and they are persecuting him.
And others who are charged with crimes, recieve gifts and freedom.

And they wonder why we defend Trump?
It's not because Trump is sinless and a saint. It's because the justice system and the media in this country is abominable.

Hugs

New York judges,HRC territory, in a Blue State. Noooo, they're perfect honorable. No corruption at all.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

You been following these lawsuit court cases against Trump.
These judges in these cases are worse than the high priests that brought false accusations against Jesus.
Melania's Mother passed away and the funeral was yesterday. So Trump had petitioned the Judge to rescedule yesterdays trial day for one day, so that he could attend the funeral with his wife. And the judge said, no. Either you come to the trial or you go to the funeral.
Here check this out. These people aren't worthy to wear a judges robe.
So we judge Trump but not his accusers. Interesting.

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You should follow along with this scam lawsuit E.Jean Carroll is bringing.
The underhanded tactics of Jack Smith. And the media attacks.
And this Fanni with her boyfriend Wade conspiring with the WH to bring Trump down in a fraud case where there was no fraud.
It's incredible.
Anyone with an ounce of righteous justice in their heart, knows that what their doing is wrong.
All these cases are simply lawfare, like warfare, except they use the law unrightously.
But I suppose you would have to have an ounce of righteous knowledge in yourself to hear it.
You would have to have some sense of righteous justice in yourself to see it.

But like the Pharisees and Saducees and Priests in Jesus day's, most people today are deaf and blind.
And they don't care how many laws they break to go after someone they consider a threat to themselves.

And then there was the 2nd Impeachment hearing yesterday for Mayorkas and the border crisis.
He has broken laws of the Constitution, and the Democrats want to cry about policies.
It's not policies, Mayorkas has broken the laws of the land and they don't want to hold him accountable, even though thousands of people are dying from overdoses and being attacked by MS-13 gang members.

Yeah, our justice system is totally broken.

There are measures and balances. And the punishment should fit the crime.
But Trump has not been charged with any crimes and they are persecuting him.
And others who are charged with crimes, recieve gifts and freedom.

And they wonder why we defend Trump?
It's not because Trump is sinless and a saint. It's because the justice system and the media in this country is abominable.

Hugs

Trump is a threat to Socialism, Communism.
Trump is all about what built the USA up to become the best Nation in the world by far in fact !
But the Socialist are undermining what made the USA great !

You are right dear Ziggy, it's just like Jesus was hounded by the Pharisees etc spinning deceptions about him, trying to undermine Trump 24/7 For they are truly rotten to the core in fact ! a blight to all and a curse to all ! for they are a curse in fact for they are not worthy of God in fact !
They hate God ! that's clear ! sure they have gods ? They are all about Mans works ! not Gods works at all that's a fact !

How rude for a Judge to say to a former President No ! you can not go to your wife's mothers funeral. That's clearly malice ! and outright disrespectful !

 

[Ziggy]

You know the saying what goes around, comes around...

Or, be careful what you wish for?
or, BOOMERANG!?


Hugs

These people won't stop until they bury themselves 6 feet under.
Just sayin