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Donald Trump says he will be a 'dictator'...
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8. He would have the Justice Department "investigate and prosecute General Milley for treason."
Trump didn’t use the word "treason" to refer to former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair Mark Milley in a Truth Social post, but he implied it.
Trump criticized Milley, a U.S. Army general, for calling his Chinese counterpart to reassure China after the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, saying it was "an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH." The comment was widely seen as an accusation of treason because it is a crime eligible for the death penalty.
However, treason is a crime only during wartime. "It’s pretty obvious Milley has not committed treason, and any such prosecution would be dismissed by a court, possibly even with sanctions" against the attorneys pursuing it, George Mason’s Somin said.
9. "He will end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours by threatening to withhold US aid to Ukraine if Zelenskyy doesn't agree to a deal with Russia."
Trump has repeatedly promised to end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. However his strategy for accomplishing it isn’t as clear as MeidasTouch suggests.
"If I were president, and I say this, I will end that war in one day, it will take 24 hours," Trump said in an interview with GBNews, the clip cited by MeidasTouch. "I know Zelenskyy well, I know Putin well."
Trump added, "a lot of it has to do with the money. I would get that deal done within 24 hours."
In an interview on Fox News, Trump more clearly hinted that part of his strategy would involve what the U.S. gives to Ukraine. Host Maria Bartiromo asked Trump, "You said you could end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. How would you do that?"
"I would tell Zelenskyy, ‘No more,’" Trump replied. "‘You got to make a deal.’ I would tell Putin, ‘If you don't make a deal, we're going to give him a lot. We're going to (give Ukraine) more than they ever got if we have to.’ I will have the deal done in one day. One day."
10. "Require that schools hold elections each year where principals will be elected by parents who will choose whoever they want to run the school each year.
This is close to what Trump said.
In a speech at an annual summit for Moms for Liberty — a conservative parents-rights group — Trump said he would fight for the "direct election" of school principals by parents. He didn’t say these elections would occur each year, and said parents could do this if they aren’t satisfied with their children’s current principal.
"If you have a bad principal who is not getting the job done, the parent will, under the Trump administration, be allowed to vote to fire that principal to select someone who will do a great job," he said.
Typically, public school principals are appointed by superintendents and approved by local school boards or selected by charter school boards. Because K-12 education is largely directed at the state and local level, it’s unclear how the federal government would enact this idea, and whether it could withstand legal scrutiny.
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Trump didn’t use the word "treason" to refer to former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair Mark Milley in a Truth Social post, but he implied it.
Trump criticized Milley, a U.S. Army general, for calling his Chinese counterpart to reassure China after the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, saying it was "an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH." The comment was widely seen as an accusation of treason because it is a crime eligible for the death penalty.
However, treason is a crime only during wartime. "It’s pretty obvious Milley has not committed treason, and any such prosecution would be dismissed by a court, possibly even with sanctions" against the attorneys pursuing it, George Mason’s Somin said.
9. "He will end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours by threatening to withhold US aid to Ukraine if Zelenskyy doesn't agree to a deal with Russia."
Trump has repeatedly promised to end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. However his strategy for accomplishing it isn’t as clear as MeidasTouch suggests.
"If I were president, and I say this, I will end that war in one day, it will take 24 hours," Trump said in an interview with GBNews, the clip cited by MeidasTouch. "I know Zelenskyy well, I know Putin well."
Trump added, "a lot of it has to do with the money. I would get that deal done within 24 hours."
In an interview on Fox News, Trump more clearly hinted that part of his strategy would involve what the U.S. gives to Ukraine. Host Maria Bartiromo asked Trump, "You said you could end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. How would you do that?"
"I would tell Zelenskyy, ‘No more,’" Trump replied. "‘You got to make a deal.’ I would tell Putin, ‘If you don't make a deal, we're going to give him a lot. We're going to (give Ukraine) more than they ever got if we have to.’ I will have the deal done in one day. One day."
10. "Require that schools hold elections each year where principals will be elected by parents who will choose whoever they want to run the school each year.
This is close to what Trump said.
In a speech at an annual summit for Moms for Liberty — a conservative parents-rights group — Trump said he would fight for the "direct election" of school principals by parents. He didn’t say these elections would occur each year, and said parents could do this if they aren’t satisfied with their children’s current principal.
"If you have a bad principal who is not getting the job done, the parent will, under the Trump administration, be allowed to vote to fire that principal to select someone who will do a great job," he said.
Typically, public school principals are appointed by superintendents and approved by local school boards or selected by charter school boards. Because K-12 education is largely directed at the state and local level, it’s unclear how the federal government would enact this idea, and whether it could withstand legal scrutiny.
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Chains Broken
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Ziggy
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11. He proposed that "any person convicted of selling drugs will get the death penalty."
That’s essentially what Trump said.
"We’re going to ask that everyone who sells drugs, gets caught selling drugs, to receive the death penalty for their heinous acts," Trump said.
This would be a huge expansion of crimes eligible for capital punishment. Currently, only such crimes as murder, treason, genocide or the killing or kidnapping of a member of Congress, the president, or a Supreme Court justice would qualify based on Supreme Court precedent.
In 2019, some 210,000 people were arrested for the sale or manufacture of drugs, according to Pew Research Center data. That compares with 34 state and federal death penalty convictions handed down that year, a number that has since fallen to 21 in 2022.
Another practical concern: Large, interstate operations can be prosecuted federally, but states and localities handle most drug cases. This would put the vast majority of drug cases beyond the purview of a Trump administration.
12. "Pardon convicted J6 inmates convicted of seditious conspiracy and assaulting police officers, with an apology from the U.S. government."
Trump has repeatedly said he would pardon defendants charged with the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.
In September 2022, two months before he announced his campaign, Trump told conservative radio show host Wendy Bell that he had met with some of the Jan. 6 defendants. "I will look very very favorably about full pardons" if he wins the campaign, Trump said. He added, "I mean full pardons, with an apology to many." Trump didn’t single out specific charges he would pardon.
This is one promise he could carry out: If Trump becomes president, he would have the power to pardon. However, those would be federal pardons, meaning some defendants might still be liable for state charges.
13. Have the Justice Department "investigate Comcast, NBC and MSNBC for treason and remove them from the public airwaves."
Trump did call for investigating those outlets, but his comments about any specific punishment were vague.
In a Truth Social post, Trump wrote "Comcast, with its one-side and vicious coverage by NBC NEWS, and in particular MSNBC, often and correctly referred to as MSDNC (Democrat National Committee!), should be investigated for its ‘Country Threatening Treason.’ Their endless coverage of the now fully debunked SCAM known as Russia, Russia, Russia, and much else, is one big Campaign Contribution to the Radical Left Democrat Party. I say up front, openly, and proudly, that when I WIN the Presidency of the United States, they and others of the LameStream Media will be thoroughly scrutinized for their knowingly dishonest and corrupt coverage of people, things, and events."
Trump did not clearly state that he would try to deplatform the outlets, but he appeared to challenge their existence, stating: "Why should NBC, or any other of the corrupt & dishonest media companies, be entitled to use the very valuable Airwaves of the USA, FREE? They are a true threat to Democracy and are, in fact, THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!"
That’s essentially what Trump said.
"We’re going to ask that everyone who sells drugs, gets caught selling drugs, to receive the death penalty for their heinous acts," Trump said.
This would be a huge expansion of crimes eligible for capital punishment. Currently, only such crimes as murder, treason, genocide or the killing or kidnapping of a member of Congress, the president, or a Supreme Court justice would qualify based on Supreme Court precedent.
In 2019, some 210,000 people were arrested for the sale or manufacture of drugs, according to Pew Research Center data. That compares with 34 state and federal death penalty convictions handed down that year, a number that has since fallen to 21 in 2022.
Another practical concern: Large, interstate operations can be prosecuted federally, but states and localities handle most drug cases. This would put the vast majority of drug cases beyond the purview of a Trump administration.
12. "Pardon convicted J6 inmates convicted of seditious conspiracy and assaulting police officers, with an apology from the U.S. government."
Trump has repeatedly said he would pardon defendants charged with the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.
In September 2022, two months before he announced his campaign, Trump told conservative radio show host Wendy Bell that he had met with some of the Jan. 6 defendants. "I will look very very favorably about full pardons" if he wins the campaign, Trump said. He added, "I mean full pardons, with an apology to many." Trump didn’t single out specific charges he would pardon.
This is one promise he could carry out: If Trump becomes president, he would have the power to pardon. However, those would be federal pardons, meaning some defendants might still be liable for state charges.
13. Have the Justice Department "investigate Comcast, NBC and MSNBC for treason and remove them from the public airwaves."
Trump did call for investigating those outlets, but his comments about any specific punishment were vague.
In a Truth Social post, Trump wrote "Comcast, with its one-side and vicious coverage by NBC NEWS, and in particular MSNBC, often and correctly referred to as MSDNC (Democrat National Committee!), should be investigated for its ‘Country Threatening Treason.’ Their endless coverage of the now fully debunked SCAM known as Russia, Russia, Russia, and much else, is one big Campaign Contribution to the Radical Left Democrat Party. I say up front, openly, and proudly, that when I WIN the Presidency of the United States, they and others of the LameStream Media will be thoroughly scrutinized for their knowingly dishonest and corrupt coverage of people, things, and events."
Trump did not clearly state that he would try to deplatform the outlets, but he appeared to challenge their existence, stating: "Why should NBC, or any other of the corrupt & dishonest media companies, be entitled to use the very valuable Airwaves of the USA, FREE? They are a true threat to Democracy and are, in fact, THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!"
Ziggy
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14. "Pardoned felon Michael Flynn will be appointed to a top position in his Administration."
This is not as clear as MeidasTouch suggested in the clip it cited from a January 2022 Republican Party event in Lee County, Florida. Trump introduced Flynn and said, "Stay in good health, Michael. Get ready. Only 18 more months!"
In July 2020, Trump said he would welcome Flynn back to the White House.
Flynn was appointed as Trump’s first national security adviser but left after less than a month in February 2017. Flynn resigned from his position, saying he’d given "incomplete information" to White House officials about contacts he’d had with senior Russian officials weeks before Trump took office that may have addressed lifting sanctions on Russia that had been imposed by then-President Barack Obama.
Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about conversations with a Russian ambassador, but he was pardoned by Trump and then a federal judge dismissed the case.
15. "He will end all DEI programs in government agencies by executive order, including the military."
This is something Trump promised in March.
Trump railed against "equity" initiatives under the Biden administration and said he would instruct the Justice Department to investigate organizations that practice and carry out such efforts. (DEI stands for diversity, equity and inclusion.)
This is something Trump tried to do in his first term as president when he issued a September 2020 executive order restricting the federal government and its contractors from offering diversity training that he labeled "divisive" and "un-American." A federal judge blocked the order, and then Biden reversed it in 2021. Trump pledges to reinstate it.
16. "He will bring back the architect of the child separation policy at the border" and "Tom Homan (will) run ICE."
Tom Homan was a former police officer who served as Trump’s acting director of ICE starting in January 2017 and part of 2018. He oversaw the early stages of the child separation policy for migrants, which became controversial and which Trump later reversed.
Homan said Trump will bring him back, but we did not find that Trump said that in the video Meidas cited.
Homan said at an event in 2022 that Trump told him, "You and I will fix this in 2024." Homan said, "I will make you this promise if he comes back, I come back and it's not going to be nice." He added, I shook his hand at Mar-a-Lago two weeks ago. If he comes back, I come back. And we will fix this sh–."
At a recent rally in New Hampshire, Trump said "Tom Homan was incredible, right?"
We sent a message to Homan through his consulting website to ask about his remarks, and we also asked the Trump campaign in an email if Trump plans to bring Homan back. We did not get a reply.
17. "He would terminate the Constitution if he determined that fraud occurred during an election."
Trump did say this, although he later sought to walk it back.
In a Dec. 3, 2022, Truth Social post, Trump alleged election fraud in 2020 and wrote that "massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!"
Two days after his post, Trump sought to walk back his words about the Constitution, writing in a new post, "The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to ‘terminate’ the Constitution" and called it "disinformation and lies."
Despite Trump’s follow-up post, he said plainly in his initial statement the alleged fraud "allows for the termination" of constitutional rules. We rated Trump’s notion that he could terminate the Constitution Pants on Fire.
This is in our Constitution:
This is not as clear as MeidasTouch suggested in the clip it cited from a January 2022 Republican Party event in Lee County, Florida. Trump introduced Flynn and said, "Stay in good health, Michael. Get ready. Only 18 more months!"
In July 2020, Trump said he would welcome Flynn back to the White House.
Flynn was appointed as Trump’s first national security adviser but left after less than a month in February 2017. Flynn resigned from his position, saying he’d given "incomplete information" to White House officials about contacts he’d had with senior Russian officials weeks before Trump took office that may have addressed lifting sanctions on Russia that had been imposed by then-President Barack Obama.
Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about conversations with a Russian ambassador, but he was pardoned by Trump and then a federal judge dismissed the case.
15. "He will end all DEI programs in government agencies by executive order, including the military."
This is something Trump promised in March.
Trump railed against "equity" initiatives under the Biden administration and said he would instruct the Justice Department to investigate organizations that practice and carry out such efforts. (DEI stands for diversity, equity and inclusion.)
This is something Trump tried to do in his first term as president when he issued a September 2020 executive order restricting the federal government and its contractors from offering diversity training that he labeled "divisive" and "un-American." A federal judge blocked the order, and then Biden reversed it in 2021. Trump pledges to reinstate it.
16. "He will bring back the architect of the child separation policy at the border" and "Tom Homan (will) run ICE."
Tom Homan was a former police officer who served as Trump’s acting director of ICE starting in January 2017 and part of 2018. He oversaw the early stages of the child separation policy for migrants, which became controversial and which Trump later reversed.
Homan said Trump will bring him back, but we did not find that Trump said that in the video Meidas cited.
Homan said at an event in 2022 that Trump told him, "You and I will fix this in 2024." Homan said, "I will make you this promise if he comes back, I come back and it's not going to be nice." He added, I shook his hand at Mar-a-Lago two weeks ago. If he comes back, I come back. And we will fix this sh–."
At a recent rally in New Hampshire, Trump said "Tom Homan was incredible, right?"
We sent a message to Homan through his consulting website to ask about his remarks, and we also asked the Trump campaign in an email if Trump plans to bring Homan back. We did not get a reply.
17. "He would terminate the Constitution if he determined that fraud occurred during an election."
Trump did say this, although he later sought to walk it back.
In a Dec. 3, 2022, Truth Social post, Trump alleged election fraud in 2020 and wrote that "massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!"
Two days after his post, Trump sought to walk back his words about the Constitution, writing in a new post, "The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to ‘terminate’ the Constitution" and called it "disinformation and lies."
Despite Trump’s follow-up post, he said plainly in his initial statement the alleged fraud "allows for the termination" of constitutional rules. We rated Trump’s notion that he could terminate the Constitution Pants on Fire.
This is in our Constitution:
Ziggy
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In Congress, July 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
www.archives.gov
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
Declaration of Independence: A Transcription
[get-content name="print-page-left" include-tag="false" /] Note: The following text is a transcription of the Stone Engraving of the parchment Declaration of Independence (the document on display in the Rotunda at the National Archives Museum.) The spelling and punctuation reflects the original.
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Bob
Well-Known Member
For the record, kindly describe which of President Trump’s polices—economic, national security, rule of law, separation of powers, states’ rights—you found maniacal.
Ziggy
Well-Known Member
18. "Eliminate all early and absentee voting in America."
Trump has been inconsistent about whether he wants to allow early voting or mail ballots.
Trump told Real America’s Voice radio show, "We should have one-day voting, we should have paper ballots, and we should have voter ID." But two days earlier, Trump recorded a message for the Republican National Committee’s 2024 early voting campaign called "Bank Your vote."
"Go to bankyourvote.com to sign up and commit to voting early. … We’re going to win, and we’re going to make America great again," Trump said.
Legally, the idea that a president could shut down early voting is dubious; those are decisions generally set by state legislators.
19. "Create a commission to investigate his long-standing theory that vaccines cause autism."
Trump has repeatedly made comments that could leave voters with the impression that he is tying vaccines to autism — and he has said he would create a commission to investigate what is causing autism. However, in our review of Trump’s speeches, we found Trump was not as blunt as MeidasTouch asserts.
Even before he ran for president a decade ago, Trump linked autism to vaccines — a claim that has been debunked.
During a 2023 speech at the conservative Turning Point Action conference, Trump said he would not give "one penny" to any school that has a "vaccine mandate."
Immediately following that comment, Trump said, "I will also continue my long record of standing up to Big Pharma by creating a special presidential commission to investigate what is causing the decades-long increase in childhood diseases, autoimmune disorders, autism, obesity, infertility and other chronic health problems."
Although the comment about vaccines was followed by a comment about investigating what causes autism, Trump stopped short of directly linking vaccines and autism; he urged further investigation.
20. "End birthright citizenship by executive order."
Trump did make this promise.
Birthright citizenship is the automatic granting of citizen status to anyone born on United States soil. In a video, Trump said that "as part of my plan to secure the border on day one of my new term in office, I will sign an executive order making clear to federal agencies that under the correct interpretation of the law, going forward, the future children of illegal aliens will not receive automatic U.S. citizenship. It’s things like this that bring millions of people to our country."
However, legal experts say that anything short of a constitutional amendment seeking to end birthright citizenship would prompt a major court battle.
Trump broke his 2016 campaign promise to end birthright citizenship.
only 7 more.
Trump has been inconsistent about whether he wants to allow early voting or mail ballots.
Trump told Real America’s Voice radio show, "We should have one-day voting, we should have paper ballots, and we should have voter ID." But two days earlier, Trump recorded a message for the Republican National Committee’s 2024 early voting campaign called "Bank Your vote."
"Go to bankyourvote.com to sign up and commit to voting early. … We’re going to win, and we’re going to make America great again," Trump said.
Legally, the idea that a president could shut down early voting is dubious; those are decisions generally set by state legislators.
19. "Create a commission to investigate his long-standing theory that vaccines cause autism."
Trump has repeatedly made comments that could leave voters with the impression that he is tying vaccines to autism — and he has said he would create a commission to investigate what is causing autism. However, in our review of Trump’s speeches, we found Trump was not as blunt as MeidasTouch asserts.
Even before he ran for president a decade ago, Trump linked autism to vaccines — a claim that has been debunked.
During a 2023 speech at the conservative Turning Point Action conference, Trump said he would not give "one penny" to any school that has a "vaccine mandate."
Immediately following that comment, Trump said, "I will also continue my long record of standing up to Big Pharma by creating a special presidential commission to investigate what is causing the decades-long increase in childhood diseases, autoimmune disorders, autism, obesity, infertility and other chronic health problems."
Although the comment about vaccines was followed by a comment about investigating what causes autism, Trump stopped short of directly linking vaccines and autism; he urged further investigation.
20. "End birthright citizenship by executive order."
Trump did make this promise.
Birthright citizenship is the automatic granting of citizen status to anyone born on United States soil. In a video, Trump said that "as part of my plan to secure the border on day one of my new term in office, I will sign an executive order making clear to federal agencies that under the correct interpretation of the law, going forward, the future children of illegal aliens will not receive automatic U.S. citizenship. It’s things like this that bring millions of people to our country."
However, legal experts say that anything short of a constitutional amendment seeking to end birthright citizenship would prompt a major court battle.
Trump broke his 2016 campaign promise to end birthright citizenship.
only 7 more.
Bob
Well-Known Member
You might want to read about the Roman Cincinnatus and President George Washington. Cincinnatus and George Washington - Roman Roads PressI almost dropped out of my chair with the morning news when George Stephanopoulos came up with this as I was settling in, as I am sure most people would. So I switched to the other news stations and found nothing on this so checked other sources and finally found some context. It was said in jest or mocking what some people have said about the former President, but without context it can be taken a long wait into much confusion...
Trump says he will be a dictator only on ‘day one’ if elected president
Trump says he will be a dictator only on ‘day one’ if elected president
At town hall event in Iowa with Fox News host Sean Hannity, the former president was asked to deny that he would use ‘power as retribution’www.theguardian.com
Donald Trump says he will be a 'dictator' only on 'day one.' Then he'll focus on drilling.
Donald Trump says he will be a 'dictator' only on 'day one.' Then he'll focus on drilling.
Former president and current Republican frontrunner Donald Trump mocks concern that he wants to be a dictator.www.yahoo.com
Trump: I won’t be a dictator ‘except for day one’
Trump: I won’t be a dictator ‘except for day one’
It's not clear if he meant that statement to be a promise, a quip or a threat.www.politico.com
And video proclaiming much the same...
Trump says he would be a dictator only on 'day one' of second term
During a Fox News town hall Tuesday, former President Trump responded to a question from host Sean Hannity if he would abuse his power if elected to a second term. Trump said he would be a dictator only on day one.www.msnbc.com
Actually, we currently have a dictatorial administration in the White House now: rule of law disregarded when it is expedient.
Ziggy
Well-Known Member
21. He would "fire 40,000 career civil servants on day one and replace them with ‘patriots’ loyal to him."
This aligns with Trump’s past actions and reporting by the online news outlet Axios.
Shortly before the 2020 election, Trump signed an executive order called "Creating Schedule F in the Excepted Service." It established a new employment category for federal employees. Biden rescinded it when he took office.
Under the order, tens of thousands of civil servants who have an influence over policy would become "Schedule F" employees without civil service protections. An initial estimate by the Trump administration estimated that it could apply to as many as 50,000 federal workers out of more than 2 million total. That would be more than 10 times larger than the current number of politically appointed federal positions, which is more than 4,000.
We already covered this above. See posts #113 and #114.
22. "Set up a commission to study whether genetically engineered marijuana is the cause of mass shootings."
Trump didn’t directly say that genetically engineered marijuana caused mass shootings, nor did he specify that a commission should study it. But he did suggest a possible link when he spoke at the National Rifle Association-Institute for Legislative Action’s leadership forum in April.
While discussing school safety and arming teachers, Trump said, "We need to drastically change our approach to mental health" and vowed to ask the Food and Drug Administration to convene an independent outside panel to investigate whether "transgender hormone treatments and ideology increase the risk of extreme depression, aggression and even violence." Then he moved on to marijuana: "Furthermore, we have to look at whether common psychiatric drugs as well as genetically engineered cannabis and other narcotics are causing psychotic breaks."
23. "Abolish the Department of Education."
He did make this promise, and it’s similar to pledges made by other Republican presidential candidates, including Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy.
In a policy video, Trump promised to close the department and "to send all education work and needs back to the states."
However, eliminating the department would have to go through Congress, so Trump couldn’t do it on his own.
24. "Reinstitute a ban on transgender people serving in the military."
During his July 15 Turning Point Action speech, Trump vowed to reinstate his transgender military ban. "I will restore the Trump ban on transgender in the military. I had it stopped, totally stopped, and then they approved it," he said.
Biden reversed the ban in January 2021, days after he took office.
This aligns with Trump’s past actions and reporting by the online news outlet Axios.
Shortly before the 2020 election, Trump signed an executive order called "Creating Schedule F in the Excepted Service." It established a new employment category for federal employees. Biden rescinded it when he took office.
Under the order, tens of thousands of civil servants who have an influence over policy would become "Schedule F" employees without civil service protections. An initial estimate by the Trump administration estimated that it could apply to as many as 50,000 federal workers out of more than 2 million total. That would be more than 10 times larger than the current number of politically appointed federal positions, which is more than 4,000.
We already covered this above. See posts #113 and #114.
22. "Set up a commission to study whether genetically engineered marijuana is the cause of mass shootings."
Trump didn’t directly say that genetically engineered marijuana caused mass shootings, nor did he specify that a commission should study it. But he did suggest a possible link when he spoke at the National Rifle Association-Institute for Legislative Action’s leadership forum in April.
While discussing school safety and arming teachers, Trump said, "We need to drastically change our approach to mental health" and vowed to ask the Food and Drug Administration to convene an independent outside panel to investigate whether "transgender hormone treatments and ideology increase the risk of extreme depression, aggression and even violence." Then he moved on to marijuana: "Furthermore, we have to look at whether common psychiatric drugs as well as genetically engineered cannabis and other narcotics are causing psychotic breaks."
23. "Abolish the Department of Education."
He did make this promise, and it’s similar to pledges made by other Republican presidential candidates, including Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy.
In a policy video, Trump promised to close the department and "to send all education work and needs back to the states."
However, eliminating the department would have to go through Congress, so Trump couldn’t do it on his own.
24. "Reinstitute a ban on transgender people serving in the military."
During his July 15 Turning Point Action speech, Trump vowed to reinstate his transgender military ban. "I will restore the Trump ban on transgender in the military. I had it stopped, totally stopped, and then they approved it," he said.
Biden reversed the ban in January 2021, days after he took office.
Ziggy
Well-Known Member
25. "He will ‘bring back God’ into the public school system."
He said this.
In a recorded message played at Iowa’s annual Faith and Freedom Coalition conference, Trump said he would "bring back God to our schools and our public squares."
"On Day 1," he continued, "we will begin to find the radical zealots and Marxists who have infiltrated the federal Department of Education and we will have them escorted from the building."
26. "Impose a new 10% tariff (tax) on all goods imported into the U.S."
This is basically what Trump said in an interview with Fox Business News.
Trump suggested an "automatic" 10% tariff on goods imported from all countries. The only wiggle room might be that Trump said it would be imposed "when companies come in and dump their products in the United States." "Dumping" has a specific definition in international trade, referring to instances in which a foreign company sells a product in the U.S. below its home-country price or lower than its cost of production.
However, a later comment by Trump in the interview — that "I do like the 10% for everybody" — would support a more informal definition of the word.
Biden’s White House said the 10% levy would amount to a "sweeping tariff tax on the middle class," increasing inflation to spike and hamper economic growth, Bloomberg News reported.
And finally:
27. "Reinstitute a travel ban on people from Muslim countries."
Trump has repeatedly made this promise.
"When I return to office, the travel ban is coming back even bigger than before and much stronger than before," Trump said at an Iowa campaign event in July. "We don't want people blowing up our shopping centers. We don't want people blowing up our cities, and we don't want people stealing our farms. So it's not gonna happen."
In the statements we analyzed, Trump didn’t specify "Muslim." But he said he is renewing his 2016 promise, which was a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States." The Supreme Court upheld the third version of Trump’s ban, but it was not a "total" ban on Muslims entering the U.S., so we rated this a Promise Broken.
He said this.
In a recorded message played at Iowa’s annual Faith and Freedom Coalition conference, Trump said he would "bring back God to our schools and our public squares."
"On Day 1," he continued, "we will begin to find the radical zealots and Marxists who have infiltrated the federal Department of Education and we will have them escorted from the building."
26. "Impose a new 10% tariff (tax) on all goods imported into the U.S."
This is basically what Trump said in an interview with Fox Business News.
Trump suggested an "automatic" 10% tariff on goods imported from all countries. The only wiggle room might be that Trump said it would be imposed "when companies come in and dump their products in the United States." "Dumping" has a specific definition in international trade, referring to instances in which a foreign company sells a product in the U.S. below its home-country price or lower than its cost of production.
However, a later comment by Trump in the interview — that "I do like the 10% for everybody" — would support a more informal definition of the word.
Biden’s White House said the 10% levy would amount to a "sweeping tariff tax on the middle class," increasing inflation to spike and hamper economic growth, Bloomberg News reported.
And finally:
27. "Reinstitute a travel ban on people from Muslim countries."
Trump has repeatedly made this promise.
"When I return to office, the travel ban is coming back even bigger than before and much stronger than before," Trump said at an Iowa campaign event in July. "We don't want people blowing up our shopping centers. We don't want people blowing up our cities, and we don't want people stealing our farms. So it's not gonna happen."
In the statements we analyzed, Trump didn’t specify "Muslim." But he said he is renewing his 2016 promise, which was a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States." The Supreme Court upheld the third version of Trump’s ban, but it was not a "total" ban on Muslims entering the U.S., so we rated this a Promise Broken.
Ziggy
Well-Known Member
27 subjects to discuss.
But were there any lies? I didn't hear any or read any. I did find some things he proposed to do had to go theough the courts as it should be.
Please list your list of lies so we can fact check them together.
I've done a lot of work putting this together... now it's your turn.
Do some homework.
The media is afraid of Q and the anons because we research, we verify, and we report.
They don't like it when people question their narrative.
That's why they call us a "conspiracy theory"
Listen.
Hugs
But were there any lies? I didn't hear any or read any. I did find some things he proposed to do had to go theough the courts as it should be.
Please list your list of lies so we can fact check them together.
I've done a lot of work putting this together... now it's your turn.
Do some homework.
The media is afraid of Q and the anons because we research, we verify, and we report.
They don't like it when people question their narrative.
That's why they call us a "conspiracy theory"
Listen.
Hugs
Ziggy
Well-Known Member
Save the Children
Over 85,000 illegal immigrant children are missing and no one knows where they are.
THINK ABOUT THAT....
Over 85,000 illegal immigrant children are missing and no one knows where they are.
THINK ABOUT THAT....
Ziggy
Well-Known Member
4908Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: a95dd3 No.11192505
Oct 21 2020 13:41:31 (EST)The_Great_Awakening_Crowd_Meme_570x350.jpg
Sometimes you can't TELL the public the truth.
YOU MUST SHOW THEM.
ONLY THEN WILL PEOPLE FIND THE WILL TO CHANGE.
Crimes against children unite all humanity [cross party lines]?
Difficult truths.
Q
4742Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 2ef5e9 No.10756500
Sep 23 2020 12:25:35 (EST)
Political leader(s) [+family (follow)] w: possible ties to sex trafficking?
Attacks [barrage] by media signify what?
'Sex trafficking' [safeguarding women & children] topic(s) that unite all political factions against a common enemy [faith in Humanity]?
Those you are taught to trust the most.
Q
There are 3 posts I have posted here before which were taken down with all the names of politicians who have been either accused or convicted for crimes against children.
I won't post them, but I will tell you where to find them if your curious:
Oct 21 2020 13:41:31 (EST)The_Great_Awakening_Crowd_Meme_570x350.jpg
Sometimes you can't TELL the public the truth.
YOU MUST SHOW THEM.
ONLY THEN WILL PEOPLE FIND THE WILL TO CHANGE.
Crimes against children unite all humanity [cross party lines]?
Difficult truths.
Q
4742Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 2ef5e9 No.10756500
Sep 23 2020 12:25:35 (EST)
Political leader(s) [+family (follow)] w: possible ties to sex trafficking?
Attacks [barrage] by media signify what?
'Sex trafficking' [safeguarding women & children] topic(s) that unite all political factions against a common enemy [faith in Humanity]?
Those you are taught to trust the most.
Q
There are 3 posts I have posted here before which were taken down with all the names of politicians who have been either accused or convicted for crimes against children.
I won't post them, but I will tell you where to find them if your curious:
Ziggy
Well-Known Member
4541Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 8e51b7 No.9791774
Jun 29 2020 17:31:32 (EST)
[1]
June 7, 2020
Holy Trinity Sunday
Mr. President,
In recent months we have been witnessing the formation of two opposing sides that I would call Biblical: the children of light and the children of darkness. The children of light constitute the most conspicuous part of humanity, while the children of darkness represent an absolute minority. And yet the former are the object of a sort of discrimination which places them in a situation of moral inferiority with respect to their adversaries, who often hold strategic positions in government, in politics, in the economy and in the media. In an apparently inexplicable way, the good are held hostage by the wicked and by those who help them either out of self-interest or fearfulness.
These two sides, which have a Biblical nature, follow the clear separation between the offspring of the Woman and the offspring of the Serpent. On the one hand, there are those who, although they have a thousand defects and weaknesses, are motivated by the desire to do good, to be honest, to raise a family, to engage in work, to give prosperity to their homeland, to help the needy, and, in obedience to the Law of God, to merit the Kingdom of Heaven. On the other hand, there are those who serve themselves, who do not hold any moral principles, who want to demolish the family and the nation, exploit workers to make themselves unduly wealthy, foment internal divisions and wars, and accumulate power and money: for them the fallacious illusion of temporal well-being will one day – if they do not repent – yield to the terrible fate that awaits them, far from God, in eternal damnation.
We will also discover that the riots in these days were provoked by those who, seeing that the virus is inevitably fading and that the social alarm of the pandemic is waning, necessarily have had to provoke civil disturbances, because they would be followed by repression which, although legitimate, could be condemned as an unjustified aggression against the population. The same thing is also happening in Europe, in perfect synchrony. It is quite clear that the use of street protests is instrumental to the purposes of those who would like to see someone elected in the upcoming presidential elections who embodies the goals of the deep state and who expresses those goals faithfully and with conviction. It will not be surprising if, in a few months, we learn once again that hidden behind these acts of vandalism and violence there are those who hope to profit from the dissolution of the social order so as to build a world without freedom: Solve et Coagula, as the Masonic adage teaches.
Although it may seem disconcerting, the opposing alignments I have described are also found in religious circles. There are faithful Shepherds who care for the flock of Christ, but there are also mercenary infidels who seek to scatter the flock and hand the sheep over to be devoured by ravenous wolves. It is not surprising that these mercenaries are allies of the children of darkness and hate the children of light: just as there is a deep state, there is also a deep church that betrays its duties and forswears its proper commitments before God. Thus the Invisible Enemy, whom good rulers fight against in public affairs, is also fought against by good shepherds in the ecclesiastical sphere. It is a spiritual battle, which I spoke about in my recent Appeal which was published on May 8.In society, Mr. President, these two opposing realities co-exist as eternal enemies, just as God and Satan are eternal enemies. And it appears that the children of darkness – whom we may easily identify with the deep state which you wisely oppose and which is fiercely waging war against you in these days – have decided to show their cards, so to speak, by now revealing their plans. They seem to be so certain of already having everything under control that they have laid aside that circumspection that until now had at least partially concealed their true intentions. The investigations already under way will reveal the true responsibility of those who managed the COVID emergency not only in the area of health care but also in politics, the economy, and the media. We will probably find that in this colossal operation of social engineering there are people who have decided the fate of humanity, arrogating to themselves the right to act against the will of citizens and their representatives in the governments of nations.
__
4542Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 8e51b7 No.9791782
Jun 29 2020 17:32:10 (EST)
[2]
For the first time, the United States has in you a President who courageously defends the right to life, who is not ashamed to denounce the persecution of Christians throughout the world, who speaks of Jesus Christ and the right of citizens to freedom of worship. Your participation in the March for Life, and more recently your proclamation of the month of April as National Child Abuse Prevention Month, are actions that confirm which side you wish to fight on. And I dare to believe that both of us are on the same side in this battle, albeit with different weapons.
For this reason, I believe that the attack to which you were subjected after your visit to the National Shrine of Saint John Paul II is part of the orchestrated media narrative which seeks not to fight racism and bring social order, but to aggravate dispositions; not to bring justice, but to legitimize violence and crime; not to serve the truth, but to favor one political faction. And it is disconcerting that there are Bishops – such as those whom I recently denounced – who, by their words, prove that they are aligned on the opposing side. They are subservient to the deep state, to globalism, to aligned thought, to the New World Order which they invoke ever more frequently in the name of a universal brotherhood which has nothing Christian about it, but which evokes the Masonic ideals of those who want to dominate the world by driving God out of the courts, out of schools, out of families, and perhaps even out of churches.
The American people are mature and have now understood how much the mainstream media does not want to spread the truth but seeks to silence and distort it, spreading the lie that is useful for the purposes of their masters. However, it is important that the good – who are the majority – wake up from their sluggishness and do not accept being deceived by a minority of dishonest people with unavowable purposes. It is necessary that the good, the children of light, come together and make their voices heard. What more effective way is there to do this, Mr. President, than by prayer, asking the Lord to protect you, the United States, and all of humanity from this enormous attack of the Enemy? Before the power of prayer, the deceptions of the children of darkness will collapse, their plots will be revealed, their betrayal will be shown, their frightening power will end in nothing, brought to light and exposed for what it is: an infernal deception.
Mr. President, my prayer is constantly turned to the beloved American nation, where I had the privilege and honor of being sent by Pope Benedict XVI as Apostolic Nuncio. In this dramatic and decisive hour for all of humanity, I am praying for you and also for all those who are at your side in the government of the United States. I trust that the American people are united with me and you in prayer to Almighty God.
United against the Invisible Enemy of all humanity, I bless you and the First Lady, the beloved American nation, and all men and women of good will.
+ Carlo Maria Viganò
Titular Archbishop of Ulpiana
Former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States of America
Jun 29 2020 17:31:32 (EST)
[1]
June 7, 2020
Holy Trinity Sunday
Mr. President,
In recent months we have been witnessing the formation of two opposing sides that I would call Biblical: the children of light and the children of darkness. The children of light constitute the most conspicuous part of humanity, while the children of darkness represent an absolute minority. And yet the former are the object of a sort of discrimination which places them in a situation of moral inferiority with respect to their adversaries, who often hold strategic positions in government, in politics, in the economy and in the media. In an apparently inexplicable way, the good are held hostage by the wicked and by those who help them either out of self-interest or fearfulness.
These two sides, which have a Biblical nature, follow the clear separation between the offspring of the Woman and the offspring of the Serpent. On the one hand, there are those who, although they have a thousand defects and weaknesses, are motivated by the desire to do good, to be honest, to raise a family, to engage in work, to give prosperity to their homeland, to help the needy, and, in obedience to the Law of God, to merit the Kingdom of Heaven. On the other hand, there are those who serve themselves, who do not hold any moral principles, who want to demolish the family and the nation, exploit workers to make themselves unduly wealthy, foment internal divisions and wars, and accumulate power and money: for them the fallacious illusion of temporal well-being will one day – if they do not repent – yield to the terrible fate that awaits them, far from God, in eternal damnation.
We will also discover that the riots in these days were provoked by those who, seeing that the virus is inevitably fading and that the social alarm of the pandemic is waning, necessarily have had to provoke civil disturbances, because they would be followed by repression which, although legitimate, could be condemned as an unjustified aggression against the population. The same thing is also happening in Europe, in perfect synchrony. It is quite clear that the use of street protests is instrumental to the purposes of those who would like to see someone elected in the upcoming presidential elections who embodies the goals of the deep state and who expresses those goals faithfully and with conviction. It will not be surprising if, in a few months, we learn once again that hidden behind these acts of vandalism and violence there are those who hope to profit from the dissolution of the social order so as to build a world without freedom: Solve et Coagula, as the Masonic adage teaches.
Although it may seem disconcerting, the opposing alignments I have described are also found in religious circles. There are faithful Shepherds who care for the flock of Christ, but there are also mercenary infidels who seek to scatter the flock and hand the sheep over to be devoured by ravenous wolves. It is not surprising that these mercenaries are allies of the children of darkness and hate the children of light: just as there is a deep state, there is also a deep church that betrays its duties and forswears its proper commitments before God. Thus the Invisible Enemy, whom good rulers fight against in public affairs, is also fought against by good shepherds in the ecclesiastical sphere. It is a spiritual battle, which I spoke about in my recent Appeal which was published on May 8.In society, Mr. President, these two opposing realities co-exist as eternal enemies, just as God and Satan are eternal enemies. And it appears that the children of darkness – whom we may easily identify with the deep state which you wisely oppose and which is fiercely waging war against you in these days – have decided to show their cards, so to speak, by now revealing their plans. They seem to be so certain of already having everything under control that they have laid aside that circumspection that until now had at least partially concealed their true intentions. The investigations already under way will reveal the true responsibility of those who managed the COVID emergency not only in the area of health care but also in politics, the economy, and the media. We will probably find that in this colossal operation of social engineering there are people who have decided the fate of humanity, arrogating to themselves the right to act against the will of citizens and their representatives in the governments of nations.
__
4542Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 8e51b7 No.9791782
Jun 29 2020 17:32:10 (EST)
[2]
For the first time, the United States has in you a President who courageously defends the right to life, who is not ashamed to denounce the persecution of Christians throughout the world, who speaks of Jesus Christ and the right of citizens to freedom of worship. Your participation in the March for Life, and more recently your proclamation of the month of April as National Child Abuse Prevention Month, are actions that confirm which side you wish to fight on. And I dare to believe that both of us are on the same side in this battle, albeit with different weapons.
For this reason, I believe that the attack to which you were subjected after your visit to the National Shrine of Saint John Paul II is part of the orchestrated media narrative which seeks not to fight racism and bring social order, but to aggravate dispositions; not to bring justice, but to legitimize violence and crime; not to serve the truth, but to favor one political faction. And it is disconcerting that there are Bishops – such as those whom I recently denounced – who, by their words, prove that they are aligned on the opposing side. They are subservient to the deep state, to globalism, to aligned thought, to the New World Order which they invoke ever more frequently in the name of a universal brotherhood which has nothing Christian about it, but which evokes the Masonic ideals of those who want to dominate the world by driving God out of the courts, out of schools, out of families, and perhaps even out of churches.
The American people are mature and have now understood how much the mainstream media does not want to spread the truth but seeks to silence and distort it, spreading the lie that is useful for the purposes of their masters. However, it is important that the good – who are the majority – wake up from their sluggishness and do not accept being deceived by a minority of dishonest people with unavowable purposes. It is necessary that the good, the children of light, come together and make their voices heard. What more effective way is there to do this, Mr. President, than by prayer, asking the Lord to protect you, the United States, and all of humanity from this enormous attack of the Enemy? Before the power of prayer, the deceptions of the children of darkness will collapse, their plots will be revealed, their betrayal will be shown, their frightening power will end in nothing, brought to light and exposed for what it is: an infernal deception.
Mr. President, my prayer is constantly turned to the beloved American nation, where I had the privilege and honor of being sent by Pope Benedict XVI as Apostolic Nuncio. In this dramatic and decisive hour for all of humanity, I am praying for you and also for all those who are at your side in the government of the United States. I trust that the American people are united with me and you in prayer to Almighty God.
United against the Invisible Enemy of all humanity, I bless you and the First Lady, the beloved American nation, and all men and women of good will.
+ Carlo Maria Viganò
Titular Archbishop of Ulpiana
Former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States of America
Ziggy
Well-Known Member
BarneyFife
Well-Known Member
Ziggy
Well-Known Member
Listen again...
Invisible enemy, attacking the 144....
these are what we call "comms" or communications to the anons.
And not only to us, but also those who know the word of God and keep it in their heart.
Consider the 144.... and look at today as to whom is under attack.
Future proves Past... meaning somethings spoken yesterday may come true tomorrow.
CAN YOU SEE IT?
Do I need to show you the refernce of the 144.... in the bible. Who does it refer to?
You have to learn to listen.
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Ziggy
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Ziggy
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Now bring your allegations that Trump wants to be a dictator, and SHOW me the PROOF.
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