Catholic Preist Sings Song About Lucifer

[Robert Pate]

That's laughable!
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That's what satan wants people to believe!

In fact, that was satan's message to Adam and Eve... is that one can disobey God and not die spiritually (be separated from Him due to walking in darkness having departed from the Lord to do sin.)

You must have cut these verses out of your bible:

1 John 3:6
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not

1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1 John 1:6
if we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

1 John 2:1
I write these things unto you, that ye sin not

We should not be willingly or knowingly doing sinful things... it should be a very rare occasion for a Christians to sin and IF they did it would NOT be a situation where it's something they knew it was sinful and they decided to do it anyway.

Galatians 6:7-8 (see Gen 8:22)
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
God gave man free will... if man chooses to turn and walk away from the Lord, God will let them do so.

Romans 1:28
they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do what ought not to be done

The gifts and callings of God are without repentance which means God cannot violate our free will and save us anyway IF we choose to go back to our sin which is living in darkness. In God there is NO darkness. (1 John 1:5)

This is a major biblical truth the OSAS crowd always explains away or denies is simply this... God is NOT mocked, what we sow is what we reap - if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap corruption. (Gal 6:7,8)

In Gal 6:8, the word corruption is...

G5356
fthora from G5351; decay, i.e. ruin -- corruption, destroy, perish.

G5351
strengthened from phthio (to pine or waste); properly, to shrivel or wither, i.e. to spoil or to ruin, by moral influences, to deprave): -- corrupt (self), defile, destroy.

If one claims we DO reap corruption when we sin, then they are admitting they do not believe OSAS / Eternal security doctrine (and sadly many of their friends will forsake them!).... and if one claims we DO NOT reap what we sow, then according to Gal 6:7, that would be mocking God!

Adam and Eve were given eternal life by the Lord when He created them... but when they sinned against God they became corrupt and died spiritually and became separated from God. So Gal 6:7,8 is quite the quandary, quite the state of uncertainty and perplexity for the adherents of OSAS doctrine.

Question is... will you continue being a mocker of God??? View attachment 37710

My salvation is not based upon my attainment. It is based upon his atonement.

 

[Philip James]

Baptized? There is only one baptism that saves and that is when we were baptized into Christ, Romans 6:3-4.

Indeed.

The Spirit and the bride say, "Come." Let the hearer say, "Come." Let the one who thirsts come forward, and the one who wants it receive the gift of life-giving water.

Pax et Bonum

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

My salvation is not based upon my attainment. It is based upon his atonement.

Yes, and if you don't abide IN CHRIST then His work on the Cross is no longer applicable to you.... unless you repent and turn away from your sin and get back in right standing with the Lord once again.

When one turns away from the Lord and sins, they must forsake their sin and confess their sin to the Lord in order to be in right standing with the Lord once again according to His Word.

Proverbs 28:13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

 

[Philip James]

Yes, and if you don't abide IN CHRIST then His work on the Cross is no longer applicable to you.... unless you repent and turn away from your sin and get back in right standing with the Lord once again.

When one turns away from the Lord and sins, they must forsake their sin and confess their sin to the Lord in order to be in right standing with the Lord once again according to His Word.

Proverbs 28:13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

When a virtuous man turns away from virtue to commit iniquity, and dies, it is because of the iniquity he committed that he must die.

But if a wicked man, turning from the wickedness he has committed, does what is right and just, he shall preserve his life;

since he has turned away from all the sins which he committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

Pax et Bonum

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

When a virtuous man turns away from virtue to commit iniquity, and dies, it is because of the iniquity he committed that he must die.

But if a wicked man, turning from the wickedness he has committed, does what is right and just, he shall preserve his life;

since he has turned away from all the sins which he committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

How come there is no scripture reference included with this so others can read this in their own Bible???

Caput tuum in ano est

 

[Philip James]

How come there is no scripture reference included with this so others can read this in their own Bible???

Caput tuum in ano est

hello Big Boy,

Anyone can read this in their own bible. A simple search on google will provide the verse.. Ez 18:26 just for you because you asked so nicely..

Iesus Christus Rex

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Anyone can read this in their own bible. A simple search on google will provide the verse

Yes, I'm aware of the scripture verse.

Just wondering why one would post a scripture and then not include the reference too.

That's like forgetting to put on yer pants before going to work and everyone laughs at you!

 

[Robert Pate]

That's laughable!
View attachment 37709
That's what satan wants people to believe!

In fact, that was satan's message to Adam and Eve... is that one can disobey God and not die spiritually (be separated from Him due to walking in darkness having departed from the Lord to do sin.)

You must have cut these verses out of your bible:

1 John 3:6
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not

1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1 John 1:6
if we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

1 John 2:1
I write these things unto you, that ye sin not

We should not be willingly or knowingly doing sinful things... it should be a very rare occasion for a Christians to sin and IF they did it would NOT be a situation where it's something they knew it was sinful and they decided to do it anyway.

Galatians 6:7-8 (see Gen 8:22)
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
God gave man free will... if man chooses to turn and walk away from the Lord, God will let them do so.

Romans 1:28
they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do what ought not to be done

The gifts and callings of God are without repentance which means God cannot violate our free will and save us anyway IF we choose to go back to our sin which is living in darkness. In God there is NO darkness. (1 John 1:5)

This is a major biblical truth the OSAS crowd always explains away or denies is simply this... God is NOT mocked, what we sow is what we reap - if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap corruption. (Gal 6:7,8)

In Gal 6:8, the word corruption is...

G5356
fthora from G5351; decay, i.e. ruin -- corruption, destroy, perish.

G5351
strengthened from phthio (to pine or waste); properly, to shrivel or wither, i.e. to spoil or to ruin, by moral influences, to deprave): -- corrupt (self), defile, destroy.

If one claims we DO reap corruption when we sin, then they are admitting they do not believe OSAS / Eternal security doctrine (and sadly many of their friends will forsake them!).... and if one claims we DO NOT reap what we sow, then according to Gal 6:7, that would be mocking God!

Adam and Eve were given eternal life by the Lord when He created them... but when they sinned against God they became corrupt and died spiritually and became separated from God. So Gal 6:7,8 is quite the quandary, quite the state of uncertainty and perplexity for the adherents of OSAS doctrine.

Question is... will you continue being a mocker of God??? View attachment 37710

That's laughable!
View attachment 37709
That's what satan wants people to believe!

In fact, that was satan's message to Adam and Eve... is that one can disobey God and not die spiritually (be separated from Him due to walking in darkness having departed from the Lord to do sin.)

You must have cut these verses out of your bible:

1 John 3:6
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not

1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1 John 1:6
if we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

1 John 2:1
I write these things unto you, that ye sin not

We should not be willingly or knowingly doing sinful things... it should be a very rare occasion for a Christians to sin and IF they did it would NOT be a situation where it's something they knew it was sinful and they decided to do it anyway.

Galatians 6:7-8 (see Gen 8:22)
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
God gave man free will... if man chooses to turn and walk away from the Lord, God will let them do so.

Romans 1:28
they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do what ought not to be done

The gifts and callings of God are without repentance which means God cannot violate our free will and save us anyway IF we choose to go back to our sin which is living in darkness. In God there is NO darkness. (1 John 1:5)

This is a major biblical truth the OSAS crowd always explains away or denies is simply this... God is NOT mocked, what we sow is what we reap - if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap corruption. (Gal 6:7,8)

In Gal 6:8, the word corruption is...

G5356
fthora from G5351; decay, i.e. ruin -- corruption, destroy, perish.

G5351
strengthened from phthio (to pine or waste); properly, to shrivel or wither, i.e. to spoil or to ruin, by moral influences, to deprave): -- corrupt (self), defile, destroy.

If one claims we DO reap corruption when we sin, then they are admitting they do not believe OSAS / Eternal security doctrine (and sadly many of their friends will forsake them!).... and if one claims we DO NOT reap what we sow, then according to Gal 6:7, that would be mocking God!

Adam and Eve were given eternal life by the Lord when He created them... but when they sinned against God they became corrupt and died spiritually and became separated from God. So Gal 6:7,8 is quite the quandary, quite the state of uncertainty and perplexity for the adherents of OSAS doctrine.

Question is... will you continue being a mocker of God??? View attachment 37710

 

[Robert Pate]

Your problem is that you fail to recognize the New Covenant, the Gospel and justification by faith.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Your problem mis that you fail to recognize the New Covenant, the Gospel and justification by faith.

Your problem is you fail to understand once we are born again by grace... THRU FAITH.... (no faith, no grace!) that we are called to obedience.

Being DISobedient (walking after the flesh) causes what Jesus did at the Cross to no longer be applicable to them because they are no longer abiding IN Christ being led by the Holy Spirit, based on ALL the Lord says in His Word, but have turned their back on the Lord to go live in sin.

All the OSAS peoples have been deceived to believe the same lie satan told Adam and Eve which is... one can disobey the Lord and not die spiritually.

But, hang in their buddy... you'll get the truth someday if you quit listening to the false teachers and start accepting the whole counsel of God and let the Lord heal you from acute Cherry Pickers Syndrome that you are suffering from now.

 

[Robert Pate]

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Your problem is you fail to understand once we are born again by grace... THRU FAITH.... (no faith, no grace!) that we are called to obedience.

Being DISobedient (walking after the flesh) causes what Jesus did at the Cross to no longer be applicable to them because they are no longer abiding IN Christ being led by the Holy Spirit, based on ALL the Lord says in His Word, but have turned their back on the Lord to go live in sin.

All the OSAS peoples have been deceived to believe the same lie satan told Adam and Eve which is... one can disobey the Lord and not die spiritually.

But, hang in their buddy... you'll get the truth someday if you quit listening to the false teachers and start accepting the whole counsel of God and let the Lord heal you from acute Cherry Pickers Syndrome that you are suffering from now.
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How obedient do we have to be? How many hail Mary's do we have to do? What is the standard for acceptance? How often should we take the sacrament? Once a week? twice a week? Once a month? What is acceptable? How often should we do good works? every day? Once a week? Once a month? What is acceptable that will insure our salvation?

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

How many hail Mary's do we have to do?

God does not accept hail marys, or catholic teaching at all

 

[Robert Pate]

God does not accept hail marys, or catholic teaching at all

Then what must we do to be saved?

 

[Mink57]

Then what must we do to be saved?

How about doing what Christ taught us to do?

 

[Robert Pate]

How about doing what Christ taught us to do?

All that Jesus said that we were to do was to believe on him, John 3:16.

 

[Mink57]

All that Jesus said that we were to do was to believe on him, John 3:16.

And THAT'S where you're wrong. He never said that's "ALL" we had to do. You seem to think that "believing" is more academic than action. That all you gotta do is SAY you "believe" and "THINK" you believe. But as for practicing that belief, well...you...along with some others...seem to fall by the wayside.

Belief requires action. Didn't Jesus say (I'm paraphrasing) that if we don't forgive others, WE won't be forgiven? If you believe in Jesus, you will forgive others! Do you?

Didn't Jesus teach us about the Good Samaritan? Have YOU been a Good Samaritan lately? Or, at ALL?

How about Matthew 25: 34-46? Or 1 Corinthians 6:9-11?

If none of that matters, then the Gospels are for naught. One can't read the Bible and think, "That's IT! That's ALL I have to do is to believe! NOW I can do whatever I want, because since I "believe", I'm SAVED!" If ALL we had to do was to academically 'believe', then the rest of the Gospels...and the ENTIRE New Testament...are null. Why even MENTION the Good Samaritan, if all we had to do is academically 'believe'?

Yeah. It don't quite work that way.

 

[Robert Pate]

And THAT'S where you're wrong. He never said that's "ALL" we had to do. You seem to think that "believing" is more academic than action. That all you gotta do is SAY you "believe" and "THINK" you believe. But as for practicing that belief, well...you...along with some others...seem to fall by the wayside.

Belief requires action. Didn't Jesus say (I'm paraphrasing) that if we don't forgive others, WE won't be forgiven? If you believe in Jesus, you will forgive others! Do you?

Didn't Jesus teach us about the Good Samaritan? Have YOU been a Good Samaritan lately? Or, at ALL?

How about Matthew 25: 34-46? Or 1 Corinthians 6:9-11?

If none of that matters, then the Gospels are for naught. One can't read the Bible and think, "That's IT! That's ALL I have to do is to believe! NOW I can do whatever I want, because since I "believe", I'm SAVED!" If ALL we had to do was to academically 'believe', then the rest of the Gospels...and the ENTIRE New Testament...are null. Why even MENTION the Good Samaritan, if all we had to do is academically 'believe'?

Yeah. It don't quite work that way.

Jesus has done it all and he did it perfectly. You are not able to trust in him, so you turned to religion in an effort to save yourself.

You have not entered into his rest, Hebrews 4:10. You are not able to rest in Christ because you don't have faith in him. The scriptures says that those who do not enter into his rest are under his wrath, Hebrews 4:1-5.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

All that Jesus said that we were to do was to believe on him, John 3:16.

That's the starting point... what else does God's Word teach concerting walk with Him? Abiding In Him? Walking after the Spirit and not the flesh?

What makes us children of God is IF we answer the Father's call to abide in Christ having turned away from our old life of sin and walk with Him in newness of life

Ephesians 5:1
Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

Ephesians 4:22-24
put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Romans 13:14
put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Colossians 3:10
And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of Him that created Him:

2 Corinthians 6:17
come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

This is what baptism is supposed to be about... making a covenant with the Lord, a public declaration of faith, a commitment to put off the old man and put on the new man and to walk in newness of life

Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

We are called to cooperate with the Lord, to be co-laboroers with Him. He made us in His Image, so we have free will... the Lord desires for us to willingly choose to turn away from our old life of sin and come abide In Christ and not turn away, ever!

1 Corinthians 3:9
We are laborers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

It's God's work, His power, His ability... but WE have to choose to accept His offer to be His children and turn from darkness to walk with Him in the Light.

John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Getting born again is the introduction and the starting point and if one truly believes and dies moments after getting born again, yes they would go to Heaven.

But few die immediately after getting born again so it remains to be seen... will WE to choose to accept His offer to be His children and turn from darkness to walk with Him abiding In Him until the end of our lives so that we might be saved???

Matthew 24:13
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Endure to the end as in... DON'T fall away!

 

[Phoneman777]

You mean, the same Jesus who ALSO told Solomon, "then your barns will be filled to overflowing, and your vats will brim over with new wine"?

And the Solomon who said, "She has prepared her meat and mixed her wine; she has also set her table."?

And, "“Come, eat my food and drink the wine I have mixed."

You mean THAT Solomon?

If Jesus was SO AGAINST drinking wine, why did he convert water in wine at the wedding at Cana? And...please don't say it was 'grape juice'. 1 Timothy 5:23 says, "Have a little wine for the sake of your stomach..."

Drinking wine doesn't 'violate' Jesus' word. Getting habitually drunk violates his word.

catholics don't realize "wine" can refer to "unfermented grape juice"...... ESPECIALLY THE PHRASE "NEW WINE".

You'd think a religion that has to build "treatment centers" for pedo priests and "recovery centers" for alcohol addicted nuns and priests would rethink their position.

We Protestants just say no to substance abused, and almost always have sex offenders thrown in jail rather than have lawyers turn settlement in lieu of prosecution into a cottage industry.

 

[Phoneman777]

Jesus absolutely drank wine (Matt. 11:19) - and He MADE it, too (John 2:7-10).
The fact that He condemned drunkenness does NOT negate these facts - anymore than the sin of gluttony forbids us to eat FOOD.

Learn how to rightly divide Scripture . . .

DB, if you'd stop allowing the demonic word of the pope to interpret God's Word, you'd understand that "wine" in the Bible refers to both fermented and unfermented grape juice.

The same Jesus who inspired Solomon to counsel us to not even look at booze would not come to Earth 1,500 years later and contradict His own word - he made fresh grape juice.