Who is the AntiChrist? (Identifying Him)

[1stCenturyLady]

I'm curious, did anyone mention the Assyrian as the Antichrist? Micah 5:5-6?

 

[Jay Ross]

So then with you naming these 10 toes, are you thinking Daniel 7 is all in the past? If not, what are the names of the current 10 toes of iron and clay?

The countries of the Coalition of the Willing which invaded the land of Babylon in 2003. Apparently, they went into Babylon to heal the Land rather than to destroy it as is still required by God. (Jer 50-51)

 

[Brakelite]

I agree with you, but Jesus still picked out Jonah of all the prophets because there was none other to compare with his success in ministry. Jesus then said that He was greater. A great prophet. And that's the point. Not sure what you're point was.

Do you not agree that Jesus is a greater prophet than Jonah or the Pope? A greater Priest than all the Jewish or Catholic religious economy could produce? A greater King than Solomon in all his finery and glory, and greater even than the Pope in all his finery?
That's the point of my original post. There is none greater than Christ, as Priest , Prophet, and King, and the papacy has seen fit to counterfeit that ministry. Hence Antichrist.

 

[ewq1938]

Do you not agree that Jesus is a greater prophet than Jonah or the Pope? A greater Priest than all the Jewish or Catholic religious economy could produce? A greater King than Solomon in all his finery and glory, and greater even than the Pope in all his finery?
That's the point of my original post. There is none greater than Christ, as Priest , Prophet, and King, and the papacy has seen fit to counterfeit that ministry. Hence Antichrist.

That is a type/shadow of AC but not what the final fulfillment will be. Something so much more powerful and anti-christ is coming that will make the RCC and even old Rome look like children's toys.

 

[covenantee]

That is a type/shadow of AC but not what the final fulfillment will be. Something so much more powerful and anti-christ is coming that will make the RCC and even old Rome look like children's toys.

Imagination.

There is nothing more antichrist than that which usurps and arrogates the Person of Christ Himself.

Revealed long ago; recognized by wise and discerning defenders of the true faith past and present.

 

[The Light]

And I already showed The Bible does define where the Antichrist will come from. But apparently you would rather sink back in the false comfort of your doctrines of men.

The Daniel 11 chapter with the symbolic example of the "vile person" reveals the final Antichrist will come to power using peace and flatteries, with a "small people" in Jerusalem.

Dan 11:23-24
23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.

24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
KJV

That "small people" represents the crept in unaware strangers among the Jewish leadership, like the scribes (Kenites) and false Jew Pharisees (Canaanites). They will set him up as Israel's king.

Dan 11:28-31
28 Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land.

That "holy covenant" is in connection with "his own land", which that covenant is about the re-establishing of the old covenant worship against in Jerusalem by the Jews for the end of this world. That points to that "vile person" being presented as an orthodox JEW.

29 At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.
30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.

Who would want to forsake that holy covenant among the orthodox Jews, and why? The pseudo-Christ or Antichrist, i.e., the devil, and those who serve the devil, i.e., those false Jews Jesus called the "synagogue of Satan".

31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
KJV

Those 3 acts are about spiritual desolation of the new 3rd temple soon to be built by the Jews in today's Jerusalem. That last act is about Jesus' warning of the "abomination of desolation" IDOL being setup for the end of this world in Jerusalem by the Antichrist.

So that's not about a pope, nor a western leader in New York, or Brussels, or Rome, or Moscow, nor an Arab. It is about a FAKE Jewish Messiah/Antichrist.

Nah. The Antichrist is A king of the north. The small people are the few that really control the world. This will be a world government.

The Jews have worshiped Baal in the past. He was not Jewish.

The thing that hath been is that which shall be and that which is done is that which shall be done. And there is no new thing under the sun.

 

[The Light]

I've read it.

Exactly. And some see, some don't.

 

[Davy]

I'm curious, did anyone mention the Assyrian as the Antichrist? Micah 5:5-6?

God used the Assyrian sometimes to point to Satan, as in Isaiah 30...

Isa 30:31-33
31 For through the voice of the LORD shall the Assyrian be beaten down, which smote with a rod.

32 And in every place where the grounded staff shall pass, which the LORD shall lay upon him, it shall be with tabrets and harps: and in battles of shaking will he fight with it.

33 For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.
KJV

The flesh kings of Assyria have not been judged and sentenced yet to Tophet (put for the future "lake of fire" destruction of Rev.20). Only Satan and his angels so far have already been judged and sentenced to perish in that future "lake of fire".

Many make the mistake of missing this, because though they think such evil men deserve to burn in hell, they forget that God's Great White Throne Judgment that sends them to perish in the future "lake of fire" is 'when'... those in the flesh are judged and sentenced.

Tophet was a place outside Jerusalem in the valley of Hinnom, the place that Jesus used as a symbol to represent the future "lake of fire" destruction.

 

[Davy]

Do you not agree that Jesus is a greater prophet than Jonah or the Pope? A greater Priest than all the Jewish or Catholic religious economy could produce? A greater King than Solomon in all his finery and glory, and greater even than the Pope in all his finery?
That's the point of my original post. There is none greater than Christ, as Priest , Prophet, and King, and the papacy has seen fit to counterfeit that ministry. Hence Antichrist.

Yet there is still a greater Antichrist than the papacy. A pope is just a flesh man, and can only be one of the "many antichrists" workers for the real Antichrist.

 

[Davy]

That is a type/shadow of AC but not what the final fulfillment will be. Something so much more powerful and anti-christ is coming that will make the RCC and even old Rome look like children's toys.

Maybe you are... starting to see.

 

[The Light]

I'm curious, did anyone mention the Assyrian as the Antichrist? Micah 5:5-6?

The Antichrist is the beast of the earth. He has two horns. He is the rider on the white horse that is given a crown, which is the Stephanos crown. the crown of the United Nations.

The first beast, that was and is not and yet is, is the beast of the sea. He is the eighth king that is of the seven. The beast of the sea is the Assyrian.

The Assyrian is an Antichrist that was killed with the sword and will live again. Here is the warning to Israel about the Assyrian.

Matthew 24
25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

There has been many, many, many movies regarding the mummy that will live again. That's what's going on here.

So, who is the Assyrian, that was a king of Babylon? That person is the beast of the sea.

 

[Davy]

The Antichrist will be Satan himself, the real "man of sin", since Satan was the very first to commit sin by coveting God's Throne and wanting to be God. This is why Rev.13:4-8 shows that the whole world (except Christ's elect) will worship "the dragon" (another title for Satan per Rev.12:9).

Satan has the image of 'man' also, as all the angels do. It's because the image of man originated from GOD's Own Image. God looks like us, we look like Him. So Satan does not have to transform like some green glob possessing some poor slob with the image of man just to appear here on earth.

The 1st beast that comes out of the 'sea' is a KINGDOM BEAST, not the Antichrist. I am so surprised that many don't simply read that Rev.13:1 Scripture as written, and instead fall for the jokesters of men's make-believe doctrines. The reason why that 1st beast is a 'kingdom' is because it is shown having 'ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns'. The ten horns represent ten kings, the seven heads represent seven mountains (geographic areas on the earth), and the ten crowns represent ten powers over the earth. And the 'sea' represents peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. All this is explained by Christ in Rev.17.

The 2nd beast of Rev.13 that comes up out of the 'earth' is ... ? Well, just who do you think it is that ascends out of the bottomless pit, Elmer Fudd? How hard can this be? The 2nd beast has 2 horns LIKE A LAMB? Who is our symbolic LAMB that died on the cross for us? And the 2nd beast speaks as a DRAGON? Who are we told the "dragon" of Rev.12:9 and Rev.20:2 is?? Again, just how difficult can this be to understand??

 

[ewq1938]

The Assyrian is an Antichrist that was killed with the sword and will live again.

None of that comes from the bible. A mountain symbolically wounded by a sword (war) and healing from it is not a death and resurrection.

 

[The Light]

God used the Assyrian sometimes to point to Satan, as in Isaiah 30...

Isa 30:31-33
31 For through the voice of the LORD shall the Assyrian be beaten down, which smote with a rod.

32 And in every place where the grounded staff shall pass, which the LORD shall lay upon him, it shall be with tabrets and harps: and in battles of shaking will he fight with it.

33 For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.
KJV

The flesh kings of Assyria have not been judged and sentenced yet to Tophet (put for the future "lake of fire" destruction of Rev.20). Only Satan and his angels so far have already been judged and sentenced to perish in that future "lake of fire".

Many make the mistake of missing this, because though they think such evil men deserve to burn in hell, they forget that God's Great White Throne Judgment that sends them to perish in the future "lake of fire" is 'when'... those in the flesh are judged and sentenced.

Tophet was a place outside Jerusalem in the valley of Hinnom, the place that Jesus used as a symbol to represent the future "lake of fire" destruction.

This is not talking about Satan. This is talking about the Assyrian. The beast of the sea. He will be cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 19
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Satan is not the Assyrian. The Assyrian was and is not and yet is. He is the eighth and is of the seven.

 

[ewq1938]

This is not talking about Satan. This is talking about the Assyrian. The beast of the sea.

The beast of the sea is an empire not a man. Rev 17 explains what this beast is and it does not say anything about it being a man. No ten horned beast is a man, not in Rev or Daniel.

 

[The Light]

None of that comes from the bible. A mountain symbolically wounded by a sword (war) and healing from it is not a death and resurrection.

Oh, that old symbolic mountain..........that's in the Bible?

Revelation 13
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

That's not the symbolic mountain that people are worshiping.

 

[The Light]

The beast of the sea is an empire not a man. Rev 17 explains what this beast is and it does not say anything about it being a man. No ten horned beast is a man, not in Rev or Daniel.

Rev 13
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

 

[ewq1938]

Rev 13
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Not a person but an empire/kingdom just like in Daniel:

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

The king of that kingdom is the little horn. There isn't another person involved. Paul spoke of the man of sin but also did not speak of a second person. John also did not describe two persons in Rev 13 as two beasts. He spoke of a ten horned kingdom beast like Daniel, and like Daniel he spoke of ONE INDIVIDUAL who rules the kingdom beast.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

God used the Assyrian sometimes to point to Satan, as in Isaiah 30...

Isa 30:31-33
31 For through the voice of the LORD shall the Assyrian be beaten down, which smote with a rod.

32 And in every place where the grounded staff shall pass, which the LORD shall lay upon him, it shall be with tabrets and harps: and in battles of shaking will he fight with it.

33 For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.
KJV

The flesh kings of Assyria have not been judged and sentenced yet to Tophet (put for the future "lake of fire" destruction of Rev.20). Only Satan and his angels so far have already been judged and sentenced to perish in that future "lake of fire".

Many make the mistake of missing this, because though they think such evil men deserve to burn in hell, they forget that God's Great White Throne Judgment that sends them to perish in the future "lake of fire" is 'when'... those in the flesh are judged and sentenced.

Tophet was a place outside Jerusalem in the valley of Hinnom, the place that Jesus used as a symbol to represent the future "lake of fire" destruction.

That's interesting. Thank you for the verse in Isaiah.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

The Antichrist is the beast of the earth. He has two horns. He is the rider on the white horse that is given a crown, which is the Stephanos crown. the crown of the United Nations.

The first beast, that was and is not and yet is, is the beast of the sea. He is the eighth king that is of the seven. The beast of the sea is the Assyrian.

The Assyrian is an Antichrist that was killed with the sword and will live again. Here is the warning to Israel about the Assyrian.

Matthew 24
25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

There has been many, many, many movies regarding the mummy that will live again. That's what's going on here.

So, who is the Assyrian, that was a king of Babylon? That person is the beast of the sea.

Can you remind me where it describes the Antichrist as having two horns itself, rather than being a "little horn" in Daniel 7 (not 8)?