CadyandZoe
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Not all of them.
If not a preference then a bodily urge? Like a sneeze? Like the urge to pee?
People are involuntarily drawn together? Do they lack free will?
Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?
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People are involuntarily drawn together? Do they lack free will?
TinMan
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"You want to pretend the sin against the 8 year old was unprovoked by the evil of the 8 year old. This is untrue."He did not deserve the sin that was done to him but that does not excuse his sin.
He did not deserve the sin that was done to him but that does not excuse his sin!
He did not deserve the sin that was done to him but that does not excuse his sin!!
He did not deserve the sin that was done to him but that does not excuse his sin!!!!
He did not deserve the sin that was done to him but that does not excuse his sin!!!
He did not deserve the sin that was done to him but that does not excuse his sin!!!!
and one for good luck
He did not deserve the sin that was done to him but that does not excuse his sin!!!!!!
Hope we have succesfully and finally communicated now.
And here you are saying that he provoked his abuse and death...because he was evil. Here you are saying that yes he did deserve it.
What exactly was this 8 year old doing that was evil?
TinMan
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That would make them transexual not gay
Your marriage is like the urge to pee?
CadyandZoe
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Wrangler
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I’ve answered this question half a dozen times already. You do know that homosexuality is a sin according to the Bible, right?
Yup, that is what I am saying. For some reason, you cannot grasp how both can be true.
- He provoked his abuser.
- He did not deserve the abuse.
LGBT's and LGBT supporters are rejected by God and will burn in Hell, unless they give up being LGBT's and believe the Christian Bible.
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TinMan
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no. Some will lie about it if you abuse them long enough and hard enough but no one changes their orientation
TinMan
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He was breathing
Playing with Lego's
Trying to learn math
What was he doing that was evil?
How did he provoke?
CadyandZoe
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This has nothing to do with the subject. The oughtness of homosexuality has nothing to do with how homosexuals are treated. These are two different questions. This is a fallacious appeal to emotion.
Behold
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Tell that nonsense to "bisexuals".....
@TinMan , one of the issues you have is that you confuse sexual perversion with "orientation".
Here is what we know about "homosexuality"...
= its immoral behavior, its sexually perverted behavior, and its not accepted by God.
We also know that "Gay's can't reproduce via homosexual sex, and we know that Gay's recruit.
So, acknowledging that perverse Human behavior framework, a Christian tries to be compassionate, yet not tolerant of "Gay" immorality.
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CadyandZoe
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If homosexuals were under minority stress, what makes you think they wouldn't lie to a scientist?
Since homosexuality orientation is one of sin and demonic and of the flesh, it is of course an example of someone walking according to the flesh, and not the Spirit of God.
They do not have eternal life abiding in them.
James shows an example while not about homosexuality exposes the demonic earthly sensual is not of God. Since it's not of God and other scriptures show that, it means it is earthly, sensual and demonic in origin.
13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom. 14 But if you have bitter envy and [h]self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth. 15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic. 16 For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there. 17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. 18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.
They do not have eternal life abiding in them.
James shows an example while not about homosexuality exposes the demonic earthly sensual is not of God. Since it's not of God and other scriptures show that, it means it is earthly, sensual and demonic in origin.
13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom. 14 But if you have bitter envy and [h]self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth. 15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic. 16 For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there. 17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. 18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.
1 Timothy 1:9-11
New International Version
9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine 11 that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.I already spoke to that, and I think you know very well that is not the attitude or actions of those who are truly children of God. What those parents did was criminal and abhorrent, and not reflective of Christ and true Christianity, or true Christians.
St. SteVen
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How do those who marginalize LGBT fare in this list? See bold above. (my emphasis added)
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Sorry but you can't get around the fact that homosexuals orient their whole lives around their sexual identity, while for those in Christ there is no male or female. We are new creatures in Christ when we get saved, the old divisions are gone, your spirit is neither male or female. Seems to me you lose the identity of your flesh with it's lusts, desires, passions, that is become crucified.
Galatians 5:24
Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
KJ21
And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its affections and lusts.
Galatians 3:27-29
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Romans 7:5
For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death.
Colossians 3:5
5 Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. 6 Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, 7 in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them.
Galatians 5:24
Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
KJ21
And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its affections and lusts.
Galatians 3:27-29
King James Version
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Romans 7:5
For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death.
Colossians 3:5
5 Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. 6 Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, 7 in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them.
RLT63
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I don’t know if I marginalize anyone. I treat everyone the same and don’t support discrimination but at the same time I recognize that homosexuality is a sin and is condemned by the Bible.
St. SteVen
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Since that is true, why make such a HUGE deal out of gender identity?
It shouldn't matter, right? No male or female.
Make the church restrooms gender neutral. - LOL
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St. SteVen
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I think the real problem I am having with the "Christian" response is that we make LGBT a singular thing.
Take a moment to consider what each of those letters stands for.
- Is it a sin to be born with same-sex attraction? (if not acted on)
- Is it a sin for a girl to be a Tomboy? (that's a gender identity issue)
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