Obviously, but she still conceived you with someone, and thus is your biological mom yes?
False Teaching: Mary died a virgin. Biblical Proof Mary had children.
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Obviously, but she still conceived you with someone, and thus is your biological mom yes?
David in NJ
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Psalm 51:5 King David said this:
"Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
And in sin my mother conceived me."
Mary was conceived in sin = Yes or No?
Rella ~ I am a woman
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Rella ~ I am a woman
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Cut to the chase. If Mary was not Jesus' biological mom why what her lineage so important to God?
David in NJ
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Biological mother of = Hebrews 10:5 = "a body You have prepared for Me"
To fulfill God's Promise from Genesis
God preserved Mary's soul from orignal sin, and thus She was born unto Her parents with a pure soul, and by Her will and God's Grace She lived a sinless life. A woman of sin wouldn't have been able to conceive and carry within Her womb Jesus, the Pure Holy One: God Incarnate. Now, answer my question like you should've the first time: Your mom still conceived you with someone, and thus is your biological mom yes?
David in NJ
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REALLY???
Where did God say this in His word?
God never lies.
So please bring forth from His Holy Word, the Scriptures, where He said "Mary's soul was preserved from original sin".
Rella ~ I am a woman
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Whatever... that body had to have Mary's Lineage.... AND couple that by the back door way Joseph's lineage
carried back to David..... just on a different path.
There could be no other....
In Luke’s narrative of the birth of Jesus, we are given Mary’s genealogy (Luke 3:23–38). Probably the best way to interpret verse 23 is like this: Jesus “was thought to be the son of Joseph, the son-in-law of Heli.” Then the genealogy continues all the way back to David, Abraham, and Adam. This establishes Mary as the physical descendant of David, so it can be stated that Jesus truly was “the Son of David” through the lineage of David’s son Nathan.
Matthew’s genealogy of Jesus (Matt. 1:1–16), from Joseph’s perspective, is also important because it clearly demonstrates Jesus’ legal right to the throne of David. According to Judaism, Jesus, as the adopted son of Joseph, would have all the legal rights of a biological heir. Joseph descended from David through Solomon, and that was the chosen line of David for someone to be considered king. Hence, the Lord Jesus was the son of David by biological descent through Mary and the king of Israel by legal right through Joseph.
David in NJ
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Never say "whatever" to God's word.
Official Declaration of the Word becoming flesh was FIRST prophesied by God directly to satan = Genesis chapter 3
And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden.
Then the Lord God called to Adam and said to him, “Where are you?”
So he said, “I heard Your voice in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; and I hid myself.”
And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?”
Then the man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.”
And the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”
The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
So the Lord God said to the serpent:
“Because you have done this,
You are cursed more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field;
On your belly you shall go,
And you shall eat dust
All the days of your life.
And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel.”
God knew of Mary thousands of years before the Jewish people ever came into existence(who also was birthed by God).
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Yes, really. Jesus said Mary's soul was preserved from original sin and His words are in the The Poem of the Man-God, another scriptural book. Whether you reject or accept that Scripture doesn't change He said it. Now, answer my question like you should've the first time: Your mom still conceived you with someone, and thus is your biological mom yes?
David in NJ
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You follow pagan practices, you bow before statues and pray to them, you reject Holy scripture so that you can remain in your idolatry and you accept un-holy writings of mystics who were never spoken to by the LORD Jesus Christ.
The LORD Jesus Christ completed His commandments to us when He instructed the Apostle John to record Revelation.
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Your time has come - 2 Timothy 4:3-4
"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables."
According to you. Those words are the words of a poor misguided and ignorant soul. It's not entirely your fault.
Jesus never said He's never going to speak to anyone about anything ever again.
David in NJ
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i am definitely 'poor' but i have the Kingdom of God
“Blessed are the poor in spirit,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
Misguided i am not for i have the Holy Spirit because i keep His commandments.
“If you love Me, keep My commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
Ignorance is the reward for those who worship idols such as Mary statues, rosary beads, and praying for the dead.
"Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”
Unless you repent from idolatry and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ you will die in your sins.
Not about everything, but many things.
You're just misguided about many things regarding Catholicism, which is why you speak that way. It's not entirely your fault.
David in NJ
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JESUS continues to speak to us thru His Word = the Holy Scriptures which were completed with Revelation.
Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.
Jesus is alive and speaks audibly. He could appear before you and speak audibly about whatever at any moment. You need to treat Jesus as if He's alive, not dead where only writings of some words He's spoken live on, because He is alive.
David in NJ
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The only Way to know Jesus is thru the Truth of His Word.
You do not love the Lord Jesus Christ for if you did you would not be practicing idolatry.
Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
You're just telling me I practice idolatry, but it doesn't make it so. That's your ignorance speaking.
Jesus is the Word and He speaks whenever He chooses. He could appear before you and speak audibly about whatever at any moment. How can you not know that?
David in NJ
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Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
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