Are the ANOINTED only among the Jehovah's Witnesses?

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Aunty Jane

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I'm trying to sort this out.If JWs believe Jehovah is God, and Jesus is mighty God, then isn't that a violation of the first Commandment.?That's two Gods
No, it’s not two “gods” but two “divine mighty ones” which is what the word “theos” means in Greek. The Greek language had no word for a god with no name. “Theos” is a word that includes any god or goddess, a deity or divinity, according to Strongs. So the word in English does not mean the same as in the Greek. Remember that the Greeks were not Christians, but pagans. They worshipped many god.
We don't violate it because we believe Jesus and God are God.
There is no statement from either Yahweh or his Christ that would make Jesus in any way equal to his supreme Father.
Jesus said “the Father is greater than I am”.
Jesus prayed to his Father whom he identified as his God….even in heaven. (Rev 3:12)
For Jews, there was only one God….Yahweh, (Deut 6:4) whom Jesus himself worshipped and served.
Jesus is called “God’s holy servant” (Acts 4:27) so how is it that God is his own servant?

Before the 4th century, there was no official doctrine of a trinity. It took over 300 years to finally make it official, whilst at the same time admitting that it was not scriptural.
 

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You're sure? lol He won't answer a question without twisting the Hell our of Scripture.

I do understand. Kingdom Hall twists nearly every verse in the Christian Bible. They don't even believe the NWT!

I'm attacking Kingdom Hall's Satanic doctrines. Stop playing the victim when YOU are the attacker.
Jw,s believe this truth=Luke 22:29-30--Partaking of the emblems of the Lords supper= Only those who will sit on thrones=the little flock( Luke 12:32)= the anointed bride of Christ, numbered at 144,000--Yet religions of darkness tell all to partake. They cant understand that simple bible truth because they are in darkness.
 

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No, it’s not two “gods” but two “divine mighty ones” which is what the word “theos” means in Greek. The Greek language had no word for a god with no name. “Theos” is a word that includes any god or goddess, a deity or divinity, according to Strongs. So the word in English does not mean the same as in the Greek. Remember that the Greeks were not Christians, but pagans. They worshipped many god.
Only Jesus and God are "Mighty God"! Haven't you read the JW bible???

Isaiah 9
6 For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Jeremiah 32
18 You show lovingkindness to thousands, and repay the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them--the Great, the Mighty God, whose name is the LORD of hosts.
 

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Jw,s believe this truth=Luke 22:29-30--Partaking of the emblems of the Lords supper= Only those who will sit on thrones=the little flock( Luke 12:32)= the anointed bride of Christ, numbered at 144,000--Yet religions of darkness tell all to partake. They cant understand that simple bible truth because they are in darkness.
You don't even know what your JW bible says!
 

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Are the ANOINTED only among the Jehovah's Witnesses?​

I witness to Jehovah! Did Jesus witness to Jehovah? .....now do those who take on the title/ name 'Jehovah's Witnesses' witness to Jehovah? Perhaps you could ask them first hand and see what they witness to?

I personally have asked 'Jehovah's Witnesses' to be true to their namesake; they are flummoxed. They will tell me all manner of things which ultimately leave me with no understanding of the character of Jehovah......pretty much like the majority of those who take on the name/ title 'Christian' leave me without an understanding of the character of Christ.

Peculiar, don't you think? like, if I asked a person to tell me about their favourite sport 'football' and they started to tell me about the players. I would say there's a disconnect between what they think they know/ believe and between what they actually know/ believe.
 

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Are the ANOINTED only among the Jehovah's Witnesses?​

I witness to Jehovah! Did Jesus witness to Jehovah? .....now do those who take on the title/ name 'Jehovah's Witnesses' witness to Jehovah? Perhaps you could ask them first hand and see what they witness to?

I personally have asked 'Jehovah's Witnesses' to be true to their namesake; they are flummoxed. They will tell me all manner of things which ultimately leave me with no understanding of the character of Jehovah......pretty much like the majority of those who take on the name/ title 'Christian' leave me without an understanding of the character of Christ.

Peculiar, don't you think? like, if I asked a person to tell me about their favourite sport 'football' and they started to tell me about the players. I would say there's a disconnect between what they think they know/ believe and between what they actually know/ believe.
JW,s know exactly what we believe.
Jesus was the #1 witness-Rev 1:5)--The JW,s are Gods witnesses as well-Isaiah 43:10- Isaiah44:8
 

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JW,s know exactly what we believe.
Jesus was the #1 witness-Rev 1:5)--The JW,s are Gods witnesses as well-Isaiah 43:10- Isaiah44:8
Assenting to a theory is a different kettle of fish to having it practiced. It redefines the words 'to know', however, here is your opportunity Keiw, witness to us of Jehovah?
 

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Assenting to a theory is a different kettle of fish to having it practiced. It redefines the words 'to know', however, here is your opportunity Keiw, witness to us of Jehovah?
YHWH(Jehovah) is the only true God. A single being God, the Abrahamic God. He promised through his son his kingdom is established in heaven and will come to earth and is a cure all for mankind. We are near the end of these last days. Things are very bad in this system and will continue to get worse. They will not get better by Mens doings. Gods kingdom is the only remaining hope.
 
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YHWH(Jehovah) is the only true God. A single being God, the Abrahamic God. He promised through his son his kingdom is established in heaven and will come to earth and is a cure all for mankind. We are near the end of these last days. Things are very bad in this system and will continue to get worse. They will not get better by Mens doings. Gods kingdom is the only remaining hope.
If I tell you about the Prime Minister does that qualify me as knowing him or further, witnessing of/ to him?
If you tell me that God is one are you telling me anymore than a devout Jew? This information has no drawing power; it is information one can glean from any impersonal computer.

The Disciples commission was that of drawing people to Jesus and their power to do this came from knowing him. One cannot draw if one doesn't know. The information they shared as they interacted was of a certain quality....a quality born of personal experience with Jesus.....not one born of having a diploma and subscribing to an exclusive organisation.
 

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If I tell you about the Prime Minister does that qualify me as knowing him or further, witnessing of/ to him?
If you tell me that God is one are you telling me anymore than a devout Jew? This information has no drawing power; it is information one can glean from any impersonal computer.

The Disciples commission was that of drawing people to Jesus and their power to do this came from knowing him. One cannot draw if one doesn't know. The information they shared as they interacted was of a certain quality....a quality born of personal experience with Jesus.....not one born of having a diploma and subscribing to an exclusive organisation.
So are you saying-You don't know Jehovah? He gave you everything.
 

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JW,s know exactly what we believe.
Jesus was the #1 witness-Rev 1:5)--The JW,s are Gods witnesses as well-Isaiah 43:10- Isaiah44:8
JW's don't even know what's in their own JW bible!
 

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The concept of anointing relates to the ancient practice of anointing those who would be Priests or Kings (eg., Leviticus 8:12; 2 Samuel 2:4). But for the combined office of “kings and priests,” the Church and Bride of Christ is invited to share (Revelation 1:6; 5:10). Jesus as the Head was anointed first, but the oil of the holy Spirit has run down upon his body members.

“Behold, how good and how pleasant it is For brothers to dwell together in unity! “It is like the precious oil upon the head, Coming down upon the beard, Even Aaron’s beard, Coming down upon the edge of his robes.” - Psalm 133:1,2

The word in the Scriptures that says God has “anointed us” (chrio) “is the verb form of “Christ,” the anointed, the Messiah (Christos).

2 Corinthians 1:21“Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ [5548], and hath anointed [5547] us, is God”

Strong’s Concordance 5547 Christos (khris-tos’); from 5548; anointed, i.e. the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus:

Strong’s Concordance 5548 chrio (khree’-o); probably akin to 5530 through the idea of contact; to smear or rub with oil, i.e. (by implication) to consecrate to an office or religious service: - anoint.

The Bride of Christ—the faithful 144,000—constitutes of the glorified Anointed Body of Christ (Revelation 14:1).

How are the anointed to be identified? Those who have this anointing have no need that anyone teach them that fact, for they have the evidence of it—the proof of it in their own hearts and experience.

“And as for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.” - 1 John 2:27

This passage does not mean “no need” to be taught instruction about the Scriptures in righteousness or God’s plan of salvation. John does not contradict other Scriptures which show that God had appointed teachers in the Church. Teachers are needed and to be recognized (eg., Galatians 6:6; Titus 1:9; 2 Timothy 2:2). John himself was a teacher and in this very epistle was teaching what both he and we appreciate as sound doctrine—necessary to be taught. What John is saying is that you don’t “need for anyone to teach you” that “Jesus is Christ” (vs 22). Notice how he says in vs 27 that what the anointing teaches “is true and is not a lie.” The “lie” was from the antichrist influence (vs 18) denying that Jesus was Christ (vs 21, 22). Also, those anointed with the Holy Spirit did not need anyone to tell them that they should not deny the Father and Son (vs 22); they knew this. The meaning is further understood by a correct translation of verse 20, “Ye have the anointing of the Holy One and ye all know it.” (Message Bible) In other words, the one receiving the anointing should know they have the Holy Spirit, whether others know it or not.

How does one personally evaluate whether they are of the Anointed? While others may observe and appreciate one as being led and used of the LORD, it is a personal judgment to perceive that one is a candidate for becoming part of the Christ, the Anointed. One has to ask himself whether he or she has come into the Anointed by the scriptural guidelines:
  • Recognizing oneself is a sinner (Luke 18:13);
  • Personally recognizing Jesus as one’s Savior (1 John 4:14);
  • Recognizing the privilege of giving ALL in consecration to follow Christ (Matthew 16:24);
  • Recognizing some fruits of the spirit in oneself (peace, faith, gentleness, self-control, etc.) and understanding Scriptures by the holy Spirit (Philippians 1:11; Ephesians 1:18; 5:17,18).
Members of the Anointed are NOT self-appointed for life. But in order to be of the completed Anointed Body of Christ, one must be “faithful until death” (Revelation 2:10) Only “if” one faithfully progresses in bearing the ”fruits” of the spirit to full maturation will one receive an abundant entrance into a heavenly reward—and Anointed Body of Christ.

“Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.” - 2 Peter 1:4-11

In the meantime, those who are prospective members of the Anointed Body of Christ are not appointed to a virtual apostleship—ruling with authority to control every aspect of worship with authority to decide what is Truth. The Papacy throughout the Christian Age ruled with authority to dictate what is “truth” and rule in all worship.

The Risen Anointed Body in Heaven. Many hope or claim to be of the Anointed company—whether Bible Students, Jehovah’s Witnesses or others. Actually prospective members of the Anointed Body of Christ begotten of the holy Spirit reside in various congregations around the world—from America to Siberia, across Europe to India, etc. As members of congregations, these individuals who have come under the anointing may simply promote what they understand to be Truth based on the Scriptures and make judgments by voting in decisions of the whole congregation.

When fully developed as New Creatures, they will be “born again” in the spirit (John 3:3-8). Not a self-appointed “Governing Body” now in the flesh—those faithful will then compose the risen Anointed Body of Christ in heaven.
Sorry but the false connecting by the Watchtower of the anointed, born again and 144,000 is a man made and not God declared doctrine.

There are no "anointed" in teh Watchtower organization. Reason? By denying the physical resurrection of Jesus, they have excluded all from teh kingdom of God who they convince to believe that heretical doctrine.
 

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JW's don't even know what's in their own JW bible!
And they don't seem to care that "Jehovah" is a word made up by the Masoretic scribes to actually prevent anyone from saying God's revealed Name.

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And they don't seem to care that "Jehovah" is a word made up by the Masoretic scribes to actually prevent anyone from saying God's revealed Name.

Much love!
Amen! They don't care. I've heard it said, Kingom Hall is a hallway to Hell. I believe it.
 
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