Which commandments? The Law of Moses or the NT? I don't know of anyone who obeys the Law. Galatians is clearly explaining that we are not under the Law, period. We have the New Covenant that Jesus shed His Blood for.
Galatians 5:1-4 (NKJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
So now we are talking about circumcision? You really think we are advocating for circumcision in order to be justified?
Christ died to set us free from the tyranny of the OT law.
Yet Paul called the law holy, just, and good.
Paul would "criticize" you for picking the parts of the Law you like and ignoring the rest.
I keep those parts of the law that are applicable to NT Christians, and humanity in general. I don't live under a theocracy that requires me to inflict death upon sinners. And even Jim actually agrees with me that we ought to be obeying those commandments that reflect love for neighbor etc, as he detailed above. (Rom 8:4; 13:10) Surely you don't disagree with that.
Although I disagree with him that I am twisting the conversation. The topic is, the "Ten Commandments are forever". Jim seems to think they are, in fact he says it is the holy Spirit that prompts and changes our hearts and minds to obey, by changing our very nature from
A. darkness to light, Eph 5:8
B. from disobedience to obedience Rom. 6:15-22
C. From being under the authority of the prince of this world to the authority of Christ.
But we all knew that didn't we. I know that you have no real problem with 9 of the Commandments. The only one you have any issue with is the 4th, and in a pique of emotional hip shooting, find it necessary to throw all the commandments out as being a tyranny and a bondage. Sad that you fellas think it a tyranny and a bondage to be faithful to your wife and refrain from stealing your neighbors car. I'm kidding, I actually
don't think you really believe that...
Why are you still talking about my wife and my marriage? You know ZERO about us.
Notwithstanding.
but nor do I think you have really thought through all your arguments.
It's actually all about C above. It's about authority. Who is your Lord? Do you seek to obey your Lord in all things applicable to loving Him with all your heart, soul, mind, and heart, and you neighbor as yourself, or are you on the throne dictating to yourself what is expedient with regards commandment number 4? Which gets back to what one of said about obeying the laws you like, and ignoring the ones you don't like.
There are 3 authorities vying for attention here. Satan, who uses earthly powers to enforce false doctrine through legislation and deception... Your own heart that doesn't like to obey in those areas that prove difficult, awkward, embarrassing, or costly... And Jesus, who was the Lawgiver on Sinai and who is the same yesterday, today, and forever. It's that 4th commandment that is a stumbling block isn't it. But in order to defend your rejection of the 4th, you have to justify throwing out everything, calling it "the law of Moses" and a tyranny and a bondage...which my friends includes the 7th commandment.
