Denying the Cross: How to do it

[GTW27]

Just look for the CROSS in their "how im saved" and "what keeps me saved".

Its MISSING.

THE CROSS OF CHRIST = is not works, its not obedience, its not water baptism.

Here is how the Heretic always sounds....

""""""Yes i know that Jesus saved me.....but now i have to keep this and do that.....so that i keep myself saved""""

And that "keep myself saved". is a LIST... Its a SELF SAVING list of do's and don't do's, and if they do all that, then they believe they go to heaven..., they hope.

Listen for this LIST in their...,"how i am saved and stay saved".... comments.

1.)Law
2.) Commandments
3.) Water bap
4.) Holding onto faith
5.) works , works, and more works
6.) enduring to the end
7.) confessing sin.

Most believers are trusting in that list to get them to heaven.

Notice WHO is not on their Self Saving List?

JESUS.

What they do, is say... "oh sure, He's my Savior, but now let me show you what you have to do to go to heaven, to stay saved"


SEE THE LIST.
They always have a LIST.

That is how you spot a : HERETIC

Blessings BeholdI I do not have a list.

 

[Behold]

Blessings BeholdI I do not have a list.

Shalom,


Neither do i have a list.

God didnt save me with a list im supposed to do.....He saved me with the Blood of His SON, who took my sin, so that God could give me "the GIFT of Righteousness", that is : The Gift of Salvation".

 

[setst777]

Yes, when we enter into spiritual relationship with God, through the Cross of Christ, our "old man of sin is crucified with Christ'.

Jesus has become our sin, .. and our old man of sin is dead, and we are "raised in newness of Life" as Born again, as a "new Creation, in Christ".

Lord Jesus became sin on the Cross so that all those believing in him would be saved. The work of Christ is for those who remain in the faith to the end evidenced by living in that sanctified life that they committed to when they first believed.

1 Thessalonians 4:1-8 (WEB) Finally then, brothers, we beg and exhort you in the Lord Jesus, that as you received from us how you ought to walk and to please God, that you abound more and more. 2 For you know what instructions we gave you through the Lord Jesus. 3 For this is the will of God: your sanctification, that you abstain from sexual immorality, 4 that each one of you know how to control his own body in sanctification and honor, 5 not in the passion of lust, even as the Gentiles who don’t know God, 6 that no one should take advantage of and wrong a brother or sister in this matter; because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as also we forewarned you and testified. 7 For God called us not for uncleanness, but in sanctification. 8 Therefore he who rejects this doesn’t reject man, but God, who has also given his Holy Spirit to you.

God’s work of sanctification is through the Spirit, but only as we (believers) are faithful to walk by the Spirit in righteousness. If we do this, then we show that our faith is genuine, and continues to be genuine. That is the faith by which the Spirit (who indwells the believer) guarantees the believer eternal life.

Galatians 6:7-9 (WEB) 7 Do not be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will {{{from the Spirit}}} reap eternal life. 9 Let {{{us}}} not be weary in doing good, for {{{we}}} will reap in due season, {{{if we}}} do not give up.

 

[GTW27]

Shalom,


Neither do i have a list.

God didnt save me with a list im supposed to do.....He saved me with the Blood of His SON, who took my sin, so that God could give me "the GIFT of Righteousness", that is : The Gift of Salvation".

So do you walk in The Spirit yet?

 

[Behold]

So do you walk in The Spirit yet?

That is the renewed mind.

All that have this..... exist here, as Paul Teaches.

"as many as be Perfect".

 

[GTW27]

That is the renewed mind.

All that have this..... exist here, as Paul Teaches.

"as many as be Perfect".

And I ask again do you walk in The Spirit?

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Lord Jesus became sin on the Cross so that all those believing in him would be saved.

Precious friend, A Very Warm Welcome to the Board.

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided! (+ I and II!) * ← PG rated "Approved" *

Grace, Peace, And JOY!…

* PG = Perfect God / Parental Guidance:

 

[Keturah]

"And God knows who will but DOES NOT CHOOSE WHO WON'T., as****** if God was choosing some to go to heaven and some were chosen to God to Hell,*****(((( then how can God hold them accountable for rejecting Christ, if they were NOT ALLOWED to believe?")))/Behold # 105

****Some nee to READ WITH COMPREHENSION what you have said here!

 

[Behold]

And I ask again do you walk in The Spirit?

If you dont understand my answer, then you dont understand your own question.

Listen, you dont walk in the Spirit with your FEET.
You dont walk in the Spirit, by speaking in a prayer language, while you shave.

"walking in the Spirit" is to be IN The Spirit, as revelation Knowledge.
Its to have the Mind of Christ, the Knowledge of God, as Real faith, that is revelation knowledge of who you have. become, as a "new Creation in Christ".

So, you now want to post a long "cut and paste" from some website that is your idea?
Or, do you have some "cut and paste" ready to paste....just waiting to go?
Which is it, GTW27

 

[GTW27]

If you dont understand my answer, then you dont understand your own question.

Listen, you dont walk in the Spirit with your FEET.
You dont walk in the Spirit, by speaking in a prayer language, while you shave.

"walking in the Spirit" is to be IN The Spirit, as revelation Knowledge.
Its to have the Mind of Christ, the Knowledge of God, as Real faith, that is revelation knowledge of who you have. become, as a "new Creation in Christ".

So, you now want to post a long "cut and paste" from some website that is your idea?
Or, do you have some "cut and paste" ready to paste....just waiting to go?
Which is it, GTW27

So would that be a yes or a no. Do you walk in The Spirit? Do you preach in The Spirit? I have no cut and paste. I just have My Fathers words.

 

[Lizbeth]

No wonder a lot of this teaching on here is foreign to me....I have to ignore it now.

Before the Cross, when Jesus was talking to those Jews, He was explaining that when you "walk in the world" you get dirty.
That is symbolic, so, HE washes the part that get's dirty.
That's symbolic.

So, He's showing us that He is the Washer, He is the Cleanser, He is the Word, He is the WAY to be made clean.

Ephesians 5:26

to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,

New Living Translation
to make her holy and clean, washed by the cleansing of God’s word.

English Standard Version
that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,

Berean Standard Bible
to sanctify her, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,

Berean Literal Bible
so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water by the word,

King James Bible
That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

New King James Version
that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,

That's the Cross of Christ.
That's the Blood of Jesus.


Notice that Jesus said............."You must be born again"... and that is not about washing your body. That is about the Blood of Jesus making your sin, as white as snow.

Washing your feet wont get you into heaven.
But being washed in the Blood of The Lamb will remove the SIN, that is stopping you from being joined to God.

Yes I agree absolutely, it's symbolic. And it's the blood that washes us clean whether the whole bath or washing our "feet" afterwards. But you still haven't addressed why Jesus said we still need to wash our feet after having the bath and are every whit clean otherwise.

(You know, it's interesting how the word of God divides between soul and spirit......and how we are supposed to rightly divide the word....maybe there's a connection there. Could it be that the word of God sometimes is talking about the soul and sometimes talking about the spirit....? I'm not entirely sure of the answer, whether that is quite right or not...will have to meditate on that and ask God for insight.)

 

[Behold]

Yes I agree absolutely, it's symbolic. And it's the blood that washes us clean whether the whole bath or washing our "feet" afterwards. But you still haven't addressed why Jesus said we still need to wash our feet after having the bath and are every whit clean otherwise.

I did.

i can teach it this way... if you prefer

"esteem each as better then ourselves" "exist in a mind of humility", understanding that each of us, in the body of Christ is called to serve the other as we take the Cross of Christ into a world of darkness. So that minds that are trapped by Satanic "mind blindness" might be enlightened by the glorious Gospel of Christ that is The Light that is able to shine into them which is "the power of God unto Salvation".

 

[Behold]

So would that be a yes or a no. Do you walk in The Spirit? Do you preach in The Spirit? I have no cut and paste. I just have My Fathers words.

Im doing it now.

 

[Ritajanice]

"walking in the Spirit" is to be IN The Spirit, as revelation Knowledge.
Its to have the Mind of Christ, the Knowledge of God, as Real faith, that is revelation knowledge of who you have. become, as a "new Creation in Christ".

Amen!!

 

[Behold]

"And God knows who will but DOES NOT CHOOSE WHO WON'T., as****** if God was choosing some to go to heaven and some were chosen to God to Hell,*****(((( then how can God hold them accountable for rejecting Christ, if they were NOT ALLOWED to believe?")))/Behold # 105

****Some nee to READ WITH COMPREHENSION what you have said here!

Yes.

John Calvinism, ...when he tries to explain "the Cross" as "pre-determined" for only those who God didn't cause/choose/pre-determine to burn in the Lake of Fire...... just proves the theological insanity of it.

We can expect this type of unbelievable theology being penned by someone who would consent to your murder for disagreeing with Him.
He did that to at least one person.

Reader, Imagine a Cosmic Psychopath who decided that your mother was "pre-determined" to burn in the Lake of Fire, but you are not.
Imagine a Maliciously evil "deity" who wont let your mother trust in Christ and be saved, because this heavenly monster decided, before she was born, that your mother...was born to BURN in Eternity. :"pre-destined" to not be chosen to go to Heaven, and she has no choice, no option, nothing.

"born to burn"
"born to burn"

See that? That is "pre-destined" elect "doctrines of Devils".

Now, Can you say that "God is LOVE, and He be such a sky-tyrant who choose you to burn in the lake of fire, and wont allow you to be saved?

"God pre-destined you to BURN in the lake of Fire" is the same twisted theology as "Pre-destined elect"...Its the false teaching that God only chooses some for Heaven.
That means the rest ...God CHOSE for HELL and the Lake of Fire, and they have no choice,.... They are not allowed to trust in Christ..!!

See that?

That is "the Cross is not for everyone".... which denies the one verse everyone knows.... John 3:16

Now ask yourself... "If God condemns a person to Hell, because they died a Christ Rejector, and God is the Reason they were not CHOSEN to believe....Then How can God be JUST, FAIR, or GOOD"?

See it?

 

[Ritajanice]

Do you walk in The Spirit? Do you preach in The Spirit?

He preaches all over this site in the Spirit......He ministers the word of God to me....in other words, the Holy Spirit speaks to me through him and very powerfully at that.

My opinion and belief.

 

[GTW27]

He preaches all over this site in the Spirit......He ministers the word of God to me....in other words, the Holy Spirit speaks to me through him and very powerfully at that.

My opinion and belief.

And you say you have no sin and that you have no need to confess. And you went back to a closed thread and put a haha on the words I brought. That intent comes from sin. And when sin is fully conceived it leads to death. But we(you too) have an advocate with The Father Jesus, who is just to forgive us.

 

[Ritajanice]

And you say you have no sin and that you have no need to confess. And you went back to a closed thread and put a haha on the words I brought. That intent comes from sin. And when sin is fully conceived it leads to death. But we(you too) have an advocate with The Father Jesus, who is just to forgive us.

Read very carefully... these are Gods Word to “ HIS” Born Again Children....

We are in the righteousness of Christ, the Holy Spirit can NEVER indwell a sinner...impossible.

​

◄ 1 John 3:9 ►

​

Context Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. New Living Translation Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. English Standard Version No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Standard Bible Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.

I have no need to confess my sin daily as I have been birthed in the Spirit, my sins are forgiven past ,present and future...

If you have to work to stay saved..I would be rather concerned..it’s my mind that is being renewed....some days my humour takes me over. ...hahalol...God Bless and have a great day.

Also your post reminds me of religious talk....head knowledge,with respect.

 

[Behold]

Read very carefully... these are Gods Word to “ HIS” Born Again Children....

We are in the righteousness of Christ, the Holy Spirit can NEVER indwell a sinner...impossible.

​

That is very profound, what you posted.

Most dont understand that being SAVED is a 2 part process, that you have just described.

First, God has to make you CLEAN (sinless) with The Blood of Jesus, as God is not going to Live in us, otherwise..

And after He has cleansed all our sin for eternity by the blood of Jesus, He THEN Spiritually births us, into Himself.
He would not do this, if we had SIN<..... as God is not going to join Himself to SIN.

He has to make us RIGHTEOUS<FIRST....Sinless..... so that We can become "one with God"... as you are showing them.

 

[Ritajanice]

That is very profound, what you posted.

Most dont understand that being SAVED is a 2 part process, that you have just described.

First, God has to make you CLEAN (sinless) with The Blood of Jesus, as God is not going to Live in us, otherwise..

And after He has cleansed all our sin for eternity by the blood of Jesus, He THEN Spiritually births us, into Himself.
He would not do this, if we had SIN<..... as God is not going to join Himself to SIN.

He has to make us RIGHTEOUS<FIRST..... so that We can become "one with God"... as you are showing them.

I ain’t doing to bad for a babe am I?..lol....seriously, I have just started to grow in spiritual knowledge...through the Holy Spirit, ministering to me through you.....it’s amazing....I have so much peace and joy.......

God’s word is Alive and Active....Praise Jesus day and night.