Is there a difference in " FALSE " teaching & error in teaching ?

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I asked once before, and I will ask again, and I would appreciate an answer this time, do you know of any English version that does not include the Divine name Jah in it?
I don't know, maybe, but that's not what we are talking about here, we are talking about how men added vowels from another word into God's Name, and from that forming the word "Jehovah", for the purpose of obscuring God's true Name, so know one would know how to say it.

This is easily verified to anyone who wants to know it.


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No, he said he could not would.
No, He said He would.

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John 2:19 KJV
Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.


So the question is . . . Did He? I say Yes, because He said He would, and I trust His Word is truth. You say No. Why? Why don't you believe Him?

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He never said he would raise himself from the dead, not one time. On the other hand there are about 30 some verses crediting God the Father as having raised his Son from the dead that most people totally ignore for an unscriptural belief. Nothing surprises me anymore.
There are also passages crediting the Spirit with raising Jesus. You gotta at some point ask yourself, why does the Bible point to Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in raising Jesus from the dead? God incarnated into flesh, and died for us, but death could not hold Him, and He came back. That's the simplicity of this. And why does the Bible speak the way it does? Maybe one reason is that we would see there is no division in God, even though He is Father, Son, and Spirit.

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I really have no input but was musing over how divided our Christian world is.

One states this is "what it says "while another states but this is "what it means".

I believe when we study we must do so with the Spirit, rightly dividing the word in context.

I do believe we all have some aspects of indoctrination in our thinking upon the word of God. However we should all be given to " swift to hear, slow to speak" in our addressing of others. I fail @ this many times.

To me,  false teaching goes against the words of God, written for our growth & perfecting. I am seeing much " error" in teachings that we have learned from many sources as we grow from childhood onwards.

Does anyone care to share your insights, battles against, or just what you've found to be  true in this questioning......
when i speak i try to get it as correct as i can if i error its does not mAKE me a false teacher. what makes a false teacher is purposely going against the Bible. some examples who is correct the Baptist or the Pentecostals? some Pentecostals believe to be saved one must Baptized in Jesus name only speak in tongues. other Pentecostals dont .

one group of baptist teach osas the other teaches you can walk away from salvation become lost again. this example is dealing with interpretation of scripture. its how many denoms get formed. few years back we had a church that had bible study at restaurant served beer. they called beer and a bible study drink beer while having Bible study... i don t think it lasted very long but still that is wrong imo .
 

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Find out if your Denomination teaches that ..."you can lose your Salvation".

Find this out reader....TODAY, not in a year.
If the answer is YES.. .they teach that.........then you've discovered a group, a person, a church, that does not understand the Cross of Jesus Christ.

That is a FACT
is there any thing you don't Know ?
 

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When the King James translators wrote "Jesus", the "J" was then pronounced like "Y", just like you said, which would be pronounced Yesus. This would be a close English transliteration of the Greek Iesous (Yay-soos). Then the pronounciation of "J" was changed to be more like a soft "G". So now we say Jesus.

But that's nothing like the origin of "Jehovah", which is neither translation nor transliteration of YHWH, rather, it is a transliteration of the modified Name of God, so that it no longer is His Name.

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Many men seek after what they think IS the NAME OF GOD . Yet i say , TO KNOW HIS NAME , ONE MUST ONLY KNOW CHRIST .
And on that i stand .
 

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It's easy enough to know. If you so desire. Since you put so much into the name "Jehovah", you should really understand what it is you are holding on to. Men modified YHWH into what we now say as Jehovah for the purpose of obscuring God's true Name, not revealing, not using, it, but exactly the opposite. Hiding it. Now many people use that modified name as if it were His Name. It's not.

We have One Name given under heaven by which men must be saved, and that name is not the made up "Jehovah", it is Jesus.

The one who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father.

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I have given them YOUR NAME . YES INDEED MY FRIEND . YES INDEED . POINT TO CHRIST TILL the last breath
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Yes.

I dont "Know" why people have to become personally insulting, who say they are a "pastor", just because someone is not agreeing with their dubious assessment of Randy Kluth's Legalism post, and their idea of sanctification.

Can you explain yourself? this puts it a little bit different than i did but all the same know then you show me where i insulated you? i simply asked if there was any thing you didnt know. . you miss quoted my post twice at least. i took the time to show you where your error was in your quote., since your a evangelist and teacher you should be able to withstand correction of a quote . when i said it was part of as in a ingredient
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So VERY FEW understand God or his word!
Indeed . There is only a couple of words i want to change .
So VERY FEW understand GOD or HIS WORD . And i bet you know why i captilized that .
Now lift those hands and praise the KING . If a man claims that he loves GOD , even says he loves Christ
but hateth TRUTH , the sound and pure holy words of our LORD , then i tell us all he has decieved himself .
Now lift those hands its LORD praising time in the building . Clap those hands with joy unto the LORD .
 

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For what GOD has inspired that man has despised .
He who claims To love GOD , to love even HIS CHRIST
and yet despises that which GOD inspired , which CHRIST HIMSELF SPOKE
and later was recorded in the bible . And twists and omits even what the apostles taught , WHO WERE INSPIRED BY THE SPIRIT ,
then i tell us all THEY have DECIEVED THEMSELVES . JESUS IS THE TRUTH , but if a man loveth lies
HOW THEN DOES HE LOVE TRUTH .
 

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And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”

21In that hour Jesus rejoiced in the Spirit and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes.
Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight.
(this passage causes me to cry because i know how unworthy i am)

22All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, and who the Father is except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

23Then He turned to His disciples and said privately, “Blessed are the eyes which see the things you see; 24for I tell you that many prophets and kings have desired to see what you see, and have not seen it, and to hear what you hear, and have not heard it.
 

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I too am so very blessed, for w/o the prescious love & sacrifice of our great creator, I would still be in the darkness of the world.

This is only why I can walk in light & victory of faith; Jesus overcame all that would separate our hearts from the Father, so we too could overcome & have a relationship to the Father.
"20Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, .but rather REJOICE that your names are written in heaven.” David NJ
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Does this mean that Jesus was wrong when He said that He would raise His body from the dead? Is that what you are saying?


I'm saying he never said that. I've already stated that multiple times.

Jesus said that He had life in Himself, that the Father had given the command that He both lay down His life, and take it up again. Jesus told the Pharisees that if they destroyed the temple (of His body) that in three days He - Jesus - would raise it up again.


Neither states he would raise his dead body from the dead. Both of these stop short of that, and just leave it at the basic concept of getting up after being in a laying position.

However, we have MANY scriptures that say clearly that the father of Jesus raised him from the dead. Zero saying Jesus did, MANY saying his Father did.




When they killed Him, three days later, just as Jesus has said, He rose again. You deny that Jesus raised His body from the dead. Why? What is your specific reason to not accept what these Scriptures say?


They don't say what you think they say. Why do you deny the multiple and MANY scriptures that identify the Father as having done it?


Act 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Act 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

Act 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

Act 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

Act_5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

Act 13:29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.
Act 13:30 But God raised him from the dead:


Act 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
Act 13:34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.
Act 13:35 Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Act 13:36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:
Act 13:37 But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.


Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Act 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Rom 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1co 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
1Co 15:13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
1Co 15:14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
1Co 15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

2Co 4:14 Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you.

Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
Eph 1:18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
Eph 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
Eph 1:20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,


Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.


1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

Heb 11:19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.

Heb 13:20 Now [U]the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus[/U], that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

1Pe 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God

Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead)

Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him who made Jesus come again from the dead is in you, he who made Christ Jesus come again from the dead will in the same way, through his Spirit which is in you, give life to your bodies which now are under the power of death.


Mat 17:22 And while they abode in Galilee, Jesus said unto them, The Son of man shall be betrayed into the hands of men:
Mat 17:23 And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry.
 

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There are also passages crediting the Spirit with raising Jesus. You gotta at some point ask yourself, why does the Bible point to Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in raising Jesus from the dead?


The bible never credits Jesus as having raised himself. All the verses that address who raised him from the dead credit his Father, not himself. You gotta at some point ask yourself, why deny all those verses?
 

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He would raise the destroyed temple. Not just, "get up in the morning".


Wrong. His father caused his body to come back to life, then Jesus raised that body up. The same thing happened to Lazarus who was told to come forth, whom stood on his own and walked.