How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

[BreadOfLife]

Myself and others have brought you many things which prove this . You just always wont heed it .
I aint gonna continously waste my time on folks who i KNOW keep refusing to hear the truth .
I aint GOD , you aint GOD , the protestant leaders aint GOD , the govts aint GOD .
ONLY HE can give the increase . If your heart has been hardend , who i am that can uharden it .
ITS ON you . No matter how many have tried to help you , you resist it all the time .
I cant wave a wand and change your mind . Anymore than anyone could have done it to me .
YOU need to sit down for yourself and pray TO GOD for the dire help you NEED .

That's a gargantuan LIE.

YOU have never given me a SINGLE example of how the Catholic Church "contradicts" Scripture.
You usually hide behind some would-be philosophical phrase or a giant meme.

Anybody who makes idiotic accusations without backing them up is a COWARD . . .

 

[Behold]

YOU have never given me a SINGLE example of how the Catholic Church "contradicts" Scripture.

Let us see you try to lie your way out of this one, BreadOfLife....

"Mary is blessed among women".....is the verse.

Not, "mary is blessed ABOVE all other women", says the "Cult of Mary"

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[BreadOfLife]

Let us see you try to lie your way out of this one, BreadOfLife....

"Mary is blessed among women".....is the verse.

Not, "mary is blessed ABOVE all other women", says the "Cult of Mary"

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Before I answer - let me remind you that I was addressing Anigo", who NEVER has given even ONE example.

As for your post - how does ANY of this "contradict" Scripture?

 

[Behold]

As for your post - how does ANY of this "contradict" Scripture?

Its because the "cult of Mary" has elevated Mary to a status that isn't true, except to the "cult of Mary".
Mary is not going to meet you at your death.
Mary is not a part of The Salvation of a Soul along with Jesus, working hand in hand as a "Mediatrix"

And........50 and 100 ft statues of Mary?

Endless Mary "days".

"Cult of mary" concepts that are just made up, like "VIRGIN" Mary and "The Ascension of Mary'.

This stuff came from the Cult itself. Not from a Bible.

Junk like this for example..

Pope Leo XIII said: "The recourse we have to Mary in prayer follows upon the office she continuously fills by the side of the throne of God as Mediatrix of Divine grace."

So, really if for no other reason........ its High Rez obvious that the "Cult of Mary" DEVOTION< that is worship, DENIED...... is not based on any New Testament, or Latin Text.

Its Religious sci-fi, of the darkest nature.

These readers, most of them, dont know that the Ancient Pagan Goddess Diana is known as the " perpetual Virgin" and "Queen of Heaven".

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Yes, though I believe that is talking about two different things. Provoking unto jealousy is not the same thing as provoking unto love and good works...just two different messages there.

“Provoking unto jealously is not the same thing.” Consider Paul who said he was Jealous over them, a Godly Jealousy, desiring to present them as a chaste virgin unto Christ.
To me there is that which provokes unto wrath…and genders corruption unto death. . As in OT telling fathers not to provoke their children to wrath.
And provoked unto Love. Provoked unto Godly jealously unto good works …sounds like …provoked to Life and not death.

It reminds me of
Sin unto death
Or obedience unto righteousness

Jealousy …a provoking unto wrath which brings about death.
Or Jealousy…a provoking unto love and good works in Him which brings about Life.

The word provoke just means to prod and goad, and can be used to talk about prodding and goading unto many different things.

Yes, see your point. Still thinking whether to prod or goad unto death.
Or unto Life.

Yes, the women that passed the testing were freed to return to their husbands and conceive children. I think since this testing was the Lord's command in those days under the Law (which was holy and righteous) we can be reassured that He wouldn't have allowed an innocent woman to have been found guilty. But we must not be too afraid to behold both the goodness and the severity of God....fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, it is for our spiritual good.

I still think the main point was Jerusalem whom he had stretched a hand out unto, to then the message going to the gentiles. Still think the point is He comes to free from the law of jealousies so that they be free by the body of Christ to bring forth life.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Its because the "cult of Mary" has elevated Mary to a status that isn't true, except to the "cult of Mary".
Mary is not going to meet you at your death.
Mary is not a part of The Salvation of a Soul along with Jesus, working hand in hand as a "Mediatrix"

And........50 and 100 ft statues of Mary?

Endless Mary "days".

"Cult of mary" concepts that are just made up, like "VIRGIN" Mary and "The Ascension of Mary'.

This stuff came from the Cult itself. Not from a Bible.

Junk like this for example..

Pope Leo XIII said: "The recourse we have to Mary in prayer follows upon the office she continuously fills by the side of the throne of God as Mediatrix of Divine grace."

So, really if for no other reason........ its really obvious that the "Cult of Mary" DEVOTION< that is worship, DENIED...... is not based on any New Testament, or Latin Text.

Its Religious sci-fi, of the darkest nature.

She’s not only blessed above all women – she is blessed above all of the human race.

WHY? Because NOBODY else in history has ever or WILL ever be singled-out to conceive, carry and give birth to GOD Himself.
That doesn’t HAVE to be written in Scripture for it to be true.

Is the U.S. Constitution written down in Scripture? Then HOW do we know the First Amendment to be true?
That’s the problem with you Sola Scripturists. You invent a doctrine – then you can’t back it up . . .

As to your "Cult of Mary" idiocy - it just illustrates how incredibly ignorant you are – not only of all things Catholic, but of Englich as well
Allow me to educate you . . .

Your limited knowledge of the word, “Cult” is at the root of your confusion.
“Cult” can refer to an individual or group that psychologically and emotionally manipulates and controls other.

In Catholicism, however, “Cult” refers to any form of worship or devotion. If a Catholic wants to marry a non-Christian, he applies for a dispensation that is called “disparity of cult,” which means that they have different ways of worshipping.

Within Catholicism there are different “cults” or liturgical forms and devotions. Any liturgical or intercessory prayer devotion centered around a particular saint is referred to as a cult. So, the “cult of Mary” would refer simply to Marian devotion. Since NOT all Catholics have Marian devotions – NOT all Catholics participate in the cult of Mary.

Do your homework . . .

 

[Behold]

She’s not only blessed above all women – she is blessed above all of the human race.

That's a rant that only a Catholic would believe, or similar.
What is obvious is the brainwashing and the mental stronghold that is incredibly affectively used on the people who are owned by the "Cult of Mary".

As far as i can tell, only the JW's and Mormon's are as locked into the programming as people who are owned by the "cult of Mary".

Notice the Translations below denounce your Cult Worship of Mary.

They says she's blessed AMONG women...... and that is because..>>"God is no respecter of Persons".......because "all have sinned", including Jesus's Mother who had other children, and had to come to The Cross by Faith, to be saved, just like everyone who is saved.
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New International Version
In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you AMONG women, and blessed is the child you will bear!

English Standard Version
and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you AMONG women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb!

Berean Standard Bible
In a loud voice she exclaimed, “Blessed are you AMONG women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb!

Berean Literal Bible
and she cried out in a loud voice and said, "Blessed are you AMONG women, and blessed is the fruit your of womb.

King James Bible
And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou AMONG women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That's a rant that only a Catholic would believe, or similar.
What is obvious is the brainwashing and the mental stronghold that is incredibly affectively used on the people who are owned by the "Cult of Mary".

As far as i can tell, only the JW's and Mormon's are as locked into the programming as people who are owned by the "cult of Mary".

Notice the Translations below denounce your Cult Worship of Mary.

They says she's blessed AMONG women...... and that is because..>>"God is no respecter of Persons".......because "all have sinned", including Jesus's Mother who had other children, and had to come to The Cross by Faith, to be saved, just like everyone who is saved.
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New International Version
In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you AMONG women, and blessed is the child you will bear!

English Standard Version
and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you AMONG women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb!

Berean Standard Bible
In a loud voice she exclaimed, “Blessed are you AMONG women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb!

Berean Literal Bible
and she cried out in a loud voice and said, "Blessed are you AMONG women, and blessed is the fruit your of womb.

King James Bible
And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou AMONG women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.

your wasting your time with him. He sees that his church does no wrong, He has been showing numerous times since I have been here what he has asked for..Yet he keeps asking as if no one has given him anything.

It will just turn into a long drawn out he said she said debate..

 

[Lizbeth]

The true Church is a VISIBLE (Matt. 5:14) and UNIYED (John 17:20-21) entity - NOT a conglomeration of people invisibly-weaved together from different sects.

Matt. 5:14-15
“You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house.

John 17:20-21
“My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, THAT ALL OF THEM MAY BE ONE, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

Unfortunately the roofs and walls of that visible church you are speaking of, esp. the Vatican, ARE like big bowls or bushels that hide the light...both to to keep light from going out as well as keeping light from coming into it. You might want to ponder too, how the tares will be BUNDLED together in the last days.

 

[Behold]

your wasting your time with him. He sees that his church does no wrong, He has been showing numerous times since I have been here what he has asked for..Yet he keeps asking as if no one has given him anything.

It will just turn into a long drawn out he said she said debate..

No worries....
I never stay with Him long.

I find is amusing this one posts the name '""""EINSTEIN""" over and over and over like a broken Catholic Parrot.

So, i just post the "cult of Mary" teaching, and the Photos, for the benefit of the other readers who are new to His nonsense.


-Blessings

 

[BreadOfLife]

That's a rant that only a Catholic would believe, or similar.
What is obvious is the brainwashing and the mental stronghold that is incredibly affectively used on the people who are owned by the "Cult of Mary".

REALLY?

Ummmmm, the guy whose Canon of Scripture that YOU follow (Luther) and whose theology YOU base YOURS on, had THIS to say . . .

“Every disciple will share Jesus’ royal dignity. But Mary is the first and holiest disciple, “full of grace” and first to believe in him (Luke 1:28,45). She is even–unimaginable dignity!–the very Mother of her Lord (1:43). This translates to Queen, if human language and divine revelation have any meaning at all. [Queen of Heaven} ”is a true enough name and yet does not make her a goddess.”(Luther’s Works, 21:327.) In a sermon

“She, the Lady above heaven and earth, must…have a heart so humble that she might have no shame in washing the swaddling clothes or preparing a bath for St. John the Baptist, like a servant girl. What humility! It would surely have been more just to have arranged for her a golden coach, pulled by 4,000 horses, and to cry and proclaim as the carriage proceeded: ‘Here passes the woman who is raised far above all women, indeed above the whole human race.'”

“She was not filled with pride by this praise…this immense praise: ‘No woman is like unto thee! Thou art more than an empress or a queen…blessed above all nobility, wisdom, or saintliness!'”(Ibid., 36:208, 45:107.)

As far as i can tell, only the JW's and Mormon's are as locked into the programming as people who are owned by the "cult of Mary".

Again with the “Cult of Mary” idiocy.

I see that stupidity dies HARD . . .

 

[amigo de christo]

Let us see you try to lie your way out of this one, BreadOfLife....

"Mary is blessed among women".....is the verse.

Not, "mary is blessed ABOVE all other women", says the "Cult of Mary"

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social incluisve fables . The man is kneeling before an idol made by hands .
I guess for todays all inclusive folks she had better be BLACK too .
Last time i checked wasnt mary jewish . not white , not black . Not to mention
When did GOD say build images to saints or anything and kneel before them .
HE said ye shall do no such thing . build no image to kneel before it . That place is a den of thieves .
Its a piece of wood pope francis , kneeling before objects . They think the image is HOLY or something .
NOPE its made of wood or iron , steel or plastic or concrete . All the inventions of men . and yet folks will kneel to it .
What an abomination . Would not suprise me a bit if they have images of the saints or angels too .
And any time you correct the man he just makes excuse and excuse and excuse and then when he gets tired of making excuses
HE STARTS all over again with more excuses .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Unfortunately the roofs and walls of that visible church you are speaking of, esp. the Vatican, ARE like big bowls or bushels that hide the light...both to to keep light from going out as well as keeping light from coming into it. You might want to ponder too, how the tares will be BUNDLED together in the last days.

And that is YOUR opinion.
On the other hand, what I cave YOU was from the Word of God . . .

 

[Behold]

REALLY?

Ummmmm, the guy whose Canon of Scripture that YOU follow (Luther) and whose theology YOU base YOURS on, had THIS to say . . .

“Every disciple will share Jesus’ royal dignity. But Mary is the first and holiest disciple, “full of grace”

Here is another shock for you , for today., BreadOfLife

I dont care what Luther said about that issue he had that you have.

Im not a disciple of M. Luther., ........and, he had a lot of Cult of Mary "mental baggage" after he left that situation.

Here is what i can tell you about Mary from Paul......He was silent, yet, He wrote all the Church Doctrine, and over half of the NT Epistles.

So, if Mary was so very important, then Paul would have pointed this out, at least once.
He never did., as there was no reason to do it.

Mary is blessed among women. Not above them.......according to Scripture.
So we'll let the Scriptures speak, and we'll let you continue to rant.
We're use to it.

 

[amigo de christo]

The vatican and the popes are not the WORD of GOD . nor do they teach or preach it .
They teach only some truths and the lie is in the middle of them all . The liar knoweth how to decieve bread of life .
And so do his ministirs . They aint gonna come preaching all lies . They will always bring in some truths .
I mean how else can they ever appear as men of righteousness , yet in truth are what paul called satans ministirs .
My advice , time to flee all such places and let us learn CHRIST for ourselves .

 

[Lizbeth]

Jealousy …a provoking unto wrath which brings about death.
Or Jealousy…a provoking unto love and good works in Him which brings about Life.

Yes, different ways it can be used. Unfortunately there are always those who provoke the Lord unto wrath (lots of scripts about that), as well as those who provoke in a good way (exhort and encourage etc).

I still think the main point was Jerusalem whom he had stretched a hand out unto, to then the message going to the gentiles. Still think the point is He comes to free from the law of jealousies so that they be free by the body of Christ to bring forth life.

Yes, those who accepted His outstretched hand. ( If I'm understanding you.) But sadly we know that not all did or do. Thus they unfortunately reap the wages of that. I think that Law as a parable of the gospel, shows both sides.

 

[Jim B]

Like wycliff and others knew . THEY interpeted greek and hebrew . Exactly sister . IF the greek dont line up
with the simple truth , REST ASSURED it is because an agenda is going on . an agenda that cometh NOT OF GOD either
but rather of the dragon and of men who desire the occasion . Have you ever sat and pondered on the simplicity
of this truth . Rather odd that the scholars of late try and teach us
that the men who copied out the truth in said scriptures of english , seemed to fall short .
YET , heed this , ALL OF A SUDDEN near the end of it all , WE HAVE SAVOIRS WHO HAVE FINALLY ARRIVED
to save christainty from the errors of the original bibles . As though somehow GOD
was unable to get a right bible into english , TILL FINALLY NOW . WHAT A JOKE . what a laugh it would be
if it were not so serious . For hundreds and hundreds of years
those poor english speaking people had no true accurate bible , BUT ALAS , NOW THEY FINALLY GOT MEN WHO
can lead us into what the greek really meant and means . YOU DO realize what this really is .
ITS NOTHING MORE than the time has come WHEN THEY , THEY NO LONGER ENDURE sound doctrine
and have heaped to themselves ever so wise sounding greek scholars who teach nothing but fairy tales and fables .
THE NERVE of these wise greek scholars . THEY may as well say MOVE OVER GOD
you couldnt get a right bible into english , LET US DO IT . what a PRIDE FILLED HEART these wicked beings of belial have .

I have read many of your absurd posts, but this one is right at the top. It's clear that you know nothing about Bible translation, including its history.

The King James Bible was a satisfactory translation for its time, even though it was created specifically to justify a secular king's version of Protestantism. It was based on a limited number of source documents and a few earlier translations.

Modern translations are far superior, because they are based on a more extensive set of source documents, a better knowledge of the source languages, and are overseen by committees of scholars to insure that they are as free of bias as possible. Additionally, they created to be read and understood in the language that almost all of us use today in the English-speaking world, you being the obvious exception. (As I have said before, your English is atrocious!)

And don't forget to eliminate the added verses, such as Romans 8:1 and the long ending of Mark (16:9 and following), neither of which have supporting evidence in the earliest and best sources.

Make sure to feed your unicorn! "Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?" Job 39:10 (and elsewhere)

 

[Lizbeth]

And that is YOUR opinion.
On the other hand, what I cave YOU was from the Word of God . . .

We need to first have the Holy Spirit before we can hope to rightly divide the word of God.

 

[BreadOfLife]

The vatican and the popes are not the WORD of GOD . nor do they teach or preach it .
They teach only some truths and the lie is in the middle of them all . The liar knoweth how to decieve bread of life .
And so do his ministirs . They aint gonna come preaching all lies . They will always bring in some truths .
I mean how else can they ever appear as men of righteousness , yet in truth are what paul called satans ministirs .
My advice , time to flee all such places and let us learn CHRIST for ourselves .

And yet you STILL can't point to a SINGLE example of how the Catholic Church "contradicts" Scripture.

Remember what God commanded:
Exod. 20:16
“You shall NOT bear false witness against your neighbor.

Good luck with that . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

We need to first have the Holy Spirit before we can hope to rightly divide the word of God.

Yes, yes we do . . .