How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

[amigo de christo]

What I see in this individual is an inner man basically on life-support. His outer man is like a drunken hillbilly of sorts that lashes out at any and all perceived threats to that inner "lamb". There is no focus at all in his outer man...it just thrashes about willy-nilly like a drunken man...who is convinced that by slashing about he is indeed protecting his inner "lamb."

There is no discernment here. Just a vain repetition of slogans for fear that the poor inner lamb will be lost. And with its loss..so he too will be lost.

What this person doesn't realize is that the outer man is already condemned. All the "lamb" protection is just a mere self-preservation. The lamb doesn't need protecting...not by the flesh anyway...the lamb needs to grow up and push aside the hillbilly...by faith in an act of the will.

The "lamb" needs to get off life-support...and start standing up against the wild drunken hillbilly of an outer man.

Your just agitated cause folks aint falling for your ruse . Lambs would never preach that other religion you do epi .
You point to self non stop . As for the true saints , WE point to CHRIST .

 

[Waiting on him]

More self-righteous virtue-signalling. Always drawing attention to yourself . I call you Ego de Crispo.

That’s hilarious!

 

[Lizbeth]

Have you ever laughed at a joke...ever? Is your face made of stone? Do you ever smile? Or does your religious veneer make you scowl...as I imagine you are doing right now? Do you think only children tell jokes. I joke with my grand-children all the time.

To me the lack of grown-ups here is the very reason I resort to jokes.

I have said it before ...I can't take very many of you seriously. Too rapt up in self-righteous posturing to be taken seriously.

Highly inappropriate and most definitely not holy.

 

[Waiting on him]

More faux outrage. Are you afraid that your outer man will be found out?

Look how easily you get outraged and offended. Now look at the parable of the sower and see what that corresponds to in depth of soil. Learn of your true condition.

One honest man in a room of pretenders sure causes a lot of panic.

Mark 4:17 KJV
[17] And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.

 

[ChristisGod]

Unbelievable. This kind of low-blow nastiness and insult is pure flesh...it is not of God. And you call yourself a Christian.....and holy at that. Your other accusation against this brother is also not of God, it's just obvious lashing out, out of vitriol.....it isn't even how the Lord would lead someone to deal with a problem like that in a brother, accusing them in public like that.

Well we can see that a good tree cannot bear bad fruit and the fruit tree has produced rotten fruit. You will know them by their fruits.

Matthew 7:15-20
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

hope this helps !!!

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Test the spirits because you know there is a way we can be led astray into digging TOO deep, where we end up on the wrong side of the globe in another country altogether, lol. That is vanity, in both senses of the word....pride as well as unfruitful. It leads us to be distracted from and led away from the messages that God wanted to bring across in the scriptures being looked at. What spirit wants to do that i wonder....not the Spirit of God.

From where I am sitting. It wasn’t the nicest thing in the world to mock as digging to deep and ending up on the other side of the world. But you thought that was funny. So you do have a sense of humor.

Highly inappropriate and most definitely not holy.

I don’t get it though. You can say something that I guess you think needs to be heard, and laugh to lighten the mood. But your also the decider of when something is holy and when it is not.

 

[Episkopos]

Your just agitated cause folks aint falling for your ruse . Lambs would never preach that other religion you do epi .
You point to self non stop . As for the true saints , WE point to CHRIST .

In your imagination...what other religion do I preach, pray tell? Are you going to make one up for me...so you can posture yourself in a virtue-signaling way...as per usual? Or are you going to quote me?

 

[Lizbeth]

More faux outrage. Are you afraid that your outer man will be found out?

Look how easily you get outraged and offended. Now look at the parable of the sower and see what that corresponds to in depth of soil. Learn of your true condition.

One honest man in a room of pretenders sure causes a lot of panic.

What does you accusing a brother falsely have to do with my outer man? There is nothing faux about how your comments and accusations are affecting me. The only thing that is faux is you trying to re-characterize these deplorable and false things you have said as a joke.

 

[ChristisGod]

From where I am sitting. It wasn’t the nicest thing in the world to mock as digging to deep and ending up on the other side of the world. But you thought that was funny. So you do have a sense of humor.

I don’t get it though. You can say something that I guess you think needs to be heard, and laugh to lighten the mood. But your also the decider of when something is holy and when it is not.

Nothing funny about tearing others down habitually.

Ephesians 4:29
New International Version
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.

New Living Translation
Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them.


Romans 14:19
So then, let us pursue what leads to peace and to mutual edification.

Romans 15:2
Each of us should please his neighbor for his good, to build him up.

Ephesians 5:4
Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk, or crude joking, which are out of character, but rather thanksgiving.

Colossians 3:8
But now you must put aside all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.

Colossians 4:6
Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone.

 

[Episkopos]

From where I am sitting. It wasn’t the nicest thing in the world to mock as digging to deep and ending up on the other side of the world. But you thought that was funny. So you do have a sense of humor.

I don’t get it though. You can say something that I guess you think needs to be heard, and laugh to lighten the mood. But your also the decider of when something is holy and when it is not.

That's how self-righteousness works...

 

[ChristisGod]

That's how self-righteousness works...

 

[Waiting on him]

From where I am sitting. It wasn’t the nicest thing in the world to mock as digging to deep and ending up on the other side of the world. But you thought that was funny. So you do have a sense of humor.

I don’t get it though. You can say something that I guess you think needs to be heard, and laugh to lighten the mood. But your also the decider of when something is holy and when it is not.

I get it.

 

[Waiting on him]

From where I am sitting. It wasn’t the nicest thing in the world to mock as digging to deep and ending up on the other side of the world. But you thought that was funny. So you do have a sense of humor.

I don’t get it though. You can say something that I guess you think needs to be heard, and laugh to lighten the mood. But you’re also the decider of when something is holy and when it is not.

They have too stay walled in within the confines of their dead faith other wise they’ll lose their place they’ve worked so hard to secure.

Look at ego le crispy, he stands at the foot of the hill saying look guys. It’s Jesus hanging on a tree, but don’t go beyond where I am.

Stand here with me and point!

I remember very clearly how it was being white walled in too specific indoctrinations and so do you. These guys are only white walls. Until they separate themselves as did the first century Christian’s they’ll only be able to regurgitate what men have told them they can legally speak!

 

[Waiting on him]

Lol!

 

[Waiting on him]

Your just agitated cause folks aint falling for your ruse . Lambs would never preach that other religion you do epi .
You point to self non stop . As for the true saints , WE point to CHRIST .

Saint? Where in the world did you read in scripture that you or anyone else here is a saint?

 

[Waiting on him]

You guys are on one serious ego TRIP!

 

[Johann]

If we want to learn of that “made without hands”
Is it wrong to learn of that “made with mens hands”…?…To see the stark difference? How can one be seen “made without hands” never acknowledging the other “made with the works of mens hands”?

Dan_2:45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

Mar_14:58 We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.

Col_2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Not made with hands (acheiropoiētōi). This late and rare negative compound verbal occurs only in the N.T. (Mar_14:58; 2Co_5:1; Col_2:11) by merely adding a privative to the old verbal cheiropoiētos (Act_7:48; Eph_2:11), possibly first in Mar_14:58 where both words occur concerning the temple. In 2Co_5:1 the reference is to the resurrection body. The feminine form of this compound adjective is the same as the masculine.

2) "With the circumcision made without hands" (peritome acheiropoleto) "with a circumcision not hand-wrought;" it is with the heart man believeth unto righteousness and is cleansed from sin, referred to as circumcision of the heart. Php_3:3; Rom_2:29.

In whom also ye are circumcised — Ye have received the spiritual blessings signified of old by circumcision; with the circumcision made without hands — Namely, an internal, spiritual circumcision; in putting off — Not a little skin, but the whole body of the sins of the flesh — All the sins proceeding from your corrupt nature; by the circumcision of Christ — The circumcision of the heart, which Christ requires and effects.

Act 7:47 But Solomon built him an house.
Act 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
Act 7:49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
Act 7:50 Hath not my hand made all these things?


Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Act 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

2Co 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.


Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;--you should understand this by the scriptures given @VictoryinJesus
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctified to the purifying of the flesh:
Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

Hopefully you will understand what is-made with hands-made without hands, by meditating upon these scriptures-rightly cutting straight the word of truth.

Shalom
Johann

 

[Johann]

I’ve seen it too. What he witnessed about the inner man in you.

OK, now I see the picture--you are firmly entrenched in Epi's non-sensical rubbish-not using scriptures and in denial of the necessity of the new birth-what are you doing-scouting?

 

[Johann]

I don't think Jane would appreciate you running behind her skirt to point your little finger at me. You need to have your milk and take a nap now.

You don't have to speak in her behalf--you are in a class of your own--looks like you want to indoctrinate the damsels and woo them over to your cult?

@marks is still very polite with you, your thread should have been closed a long time ago--and as he rightly said-a tree is known by it's fruit-yours is putrid-with no need to be born from above-and living in your "experiences" foreign to Scriptures which you are not using.

 

[Johann]

.until I get a solid confirmation (s) from God.

--direct access to the throne-no need for rebirth, and the Scriptures-the beginning of a cult.