How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

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that man sees me as the enemy of his god

How he actually sees anyone is unknown, all we have are his words, not his thoughts, nor his intents.

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

How he actually sees anyone is unknown, all we have are his words, not his thoughts, nor his intents.

Much love!

he made his thoughts and intents quite clear my friend . Very clear . so clear a child could have seen it .
You showed up late in this thread my friend . had you been there , You would have seen it very clearly .

 

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he made his thoughts and intents quite clear my friend . Very clear . so clear a child could have seen it .
You showed up late in this thread my friend . had you been there , You would have seen it very clearly .

I've been following along. I see what we all see, still, we are not the judges of another man's thoughts, and intents of the heart. We know how things appear to us, but in reality, what do we have except our opinions based on our perceptions? Unless God gives a discernment. It's enough to compare other's words with Scripture, and to hold to what is good, and reject what is false, or so it seems to me.

Much love!

 

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Titus 2:7-8 KJV
7) In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,
8) Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.

Much love!

 

[Episkopos]

This might help . Do you remember in the bible how peter wrote to the church
and told them he was writing to them not because they didnt know the truth ,
but rather he was reminding them of the truth .
Well in case you forgot something , EPI dont preach BELIEVE YE IN CHRIST JESUS .
HE calls that religious dogma . You are trying to feed meat , not to a babe but to one who even rejects
the one true gospel . DO keep in that mind . that man sees me as the enemy of his god
And try and understand why its not capitalized . cause any god or any love that wont bend the KNEE to CHRIST
IS FALSE AS HECK . PEROID . please hold not thy breath waiting for me to say otherwise .
We POINT TO CHRIST and if one believes there is no need to believe on Him . THEN TELL ME
HOW IS THE SPIRIT IN SUCH A MAN . exactly .

Reducing the truth to a dogma that can be accepted by an unconverted soul is the province of religion. You have fallen for a religious representation of Christianity...to the point where you deny the power of the cross and the resurrection life of Christ.

To you, Jesus is still on the cross you keep pointing to. You are acting out of a guilty conscience...always posting religious sounding self-righteous claims...that other self-righteous people admire. But all the virtue-signalling in the world can't overcome your sin nature.

So you will continue to spew dogmas thinking you are made less sinful than you really are.

On the other hand, you could actually GO to the cross...and be healed of your religious obsessions...that you think covers all your other obsessions.

 

[amigo de christo]

I think I'm more messed up than you, so--might come back later, not now sister.

What I read in my Bible is refuted as trash by many members-my apology for the edit.
J.

It truly is impossible to please GOD without faith .
Abraham actually BELIEVED GOD . thus he obeyed GOD .
But with many others GOD was not well pleased .
For they didnt even BELIEVE GOD , i mean IF WE TRULY BELIEVED IN GOD
would we not BELIEVE THE VERY TESTIMONY that HE GAVE US OF HIS SON .
Ponder on the beauty of that .
WHY Do we think JESUS Told them , YE say YOU BELIEVE IN MOSES
and yet MOSES SPOKE OF ME .
YE SAY GOD IS YOUR FATHER ........................and yet they would not COME TO HE WHOM THE FATHER SENT .
TORAH , the law , the prophets , POINTED TO THE PROMISE OF GOD , THE VERY SON whom GOD WOULD SEND .
and some , the lambs , KNEW IT . SOME even died in faith , BELIEVING IN this COMING MESSIAH
they waited . JESUS makes mention of that . MANY kings and prophets have desired to see what YOU SEE
and to hear what you hear . THE SHEEP KNOW THE KING my friend . HIS VOICE they do follow .
David was one of those sheep . HE KNEW the promise of GOD quite well . HE spoke of this promise , MORE THAN ONCE
as did other prophets . I tell us all that if a man denies THE CHRIST Of GOD , they have DENIED GOD .
There is but ONE NAME the lambs will point too . IT IS THE ONLY NAME that can lead us to the FATHER .
THE ONLY NAME whereby one can be reconciled to GOD . THE ONLY name whereby a man may have PEACE with GOD .
And that name is , CHRIST JESUS the GLORIOUS KING , the RISEN SAVOIR , the redeemer of our souls
the great bishop and high priest , the only INTERCESSOR between GOD and mankind . That name
IS The only name this man gonna POINT TOO . FOR i know IN HE ALONE is salvation .
Now lift those hands johann , ITS LORD PRAISING and thanking TIME in the building .
There simply is no JOY , like the JOY OF THE LORD , and pointing to CHRIST ALONE has always JOYED MY SOUL up to the FULL .

 

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1 Timothy 5:24-25 KJV
24) Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.
25) Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

Reducing the truth to a dogma that can be accepted by an unconverted soul is the province of religion. You have fallen for a religious representation of Christianity...to the point where you deny the power of the cross and the resurrection life of Christ.

To you, Jesus is still on the cross you keep pointing to. You are acting out of a guilty conscience...always posting religious sounding self-righteous claims...that other self-righteous people admire. But all the virtue-signalling in the world can't overcome your sin nature.

So you will continue to spew dogmas thinking you are made less sinful than you really are.

On the other hand, you could actually GO to the cross...and be healed of your religious obsessions...that you think covers all your other obsessions.

No , there is no power of the CROSS to those who DENY HE WHO WAS CRUCIFIED ON THAT CROSS .
Its all in vain epi . you preach about the cross and believe you know the power of it
and yet YOU DONT EVEN BELIEVE ONE HAS TO BELIEVE ON HE WHO WAS CRUCFIED on it .
EPI , that means all your preaching is vain . No matter if it has some truths its still all in vain .
I stick to what JESUS taught , You know THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY was crucified ON SAID CROSS .
YOU dont do that . You teach n preach , and prophesy of a power YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT .

 

[Johann]

How he actually sees anyone is unknown, all we have are his words, not his thoughts, nor his intent

How he actually sees anyone is unknown, all we have are his words, not his thoughts, nor his intents.

Much love!

His intents is clearly manifested--
INTENT', a. [L. intentus, from intendo. See Intend.]
Literally, having the mind strained or bent on an object; hence, fixed closely; sedulously applied; eager in pursuit of an object; anxiously diligent; formerly with to, but now with on; as intent on business or pleasure; intent on the acquisition of science.
Be intent and solicitous to take up the meaning of the speaker--
INTENT', n. Literally, the stretching of the mind towards an object; hence, a design; a purpose; intention; meaning; drift; aim; applied to persons or things.
The principal intent of Scripture is to deliver the laws of duties supernatural.
I ask therefore, for what intent ye have sent for me? Acts 10.
To all intents, in all senses; whatever may be designed.
He was miserable to all intents and purposes.
Webster.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

ἔννοια, ἐννοίας, ἡ (νοῦς);
1. the act of thinking, consideration, meditation; (Xenophon, Plato, others).
2. a thought, notion, conception; (Plato, Phaedo, p. 73 c., etc.; especially in philosophical writings, as Cicero, Tusc. 1, 24, 57; Acad. 2, 7 and 10; Epictetus diss. 2, 11, 2f, etc.; Plutarch, plac. philos. 4, 11, 1; (Diogenes Laërtius 3, 79).
3. mind, understanding, will; manner of thinking and feeling; German Gesinnung (Euripides, Hel. 1026; Diodorus 2, 30 variant; τοιαύτην ἔννοιαν ἐμποίειν τίνι, Isocrates, p. 112 d.; τήρησον τήν ἐμήν βουλήν καί ἔννοιαν, Pro_3:21; φυλάσσειν ἔννοιαν ἀγαθήν, Pro_5:2): so 1Pe_4:1; plural with καρδίας added (as in Pro_23:19), Heb_4:12 (A. V. intents of the heart), cf. Wis_2:14.
Thayer Unabridged.

--and he is making his intentions
ennoia [plural] known--how he perceive what stands written, there for all to see.


ennoia
2x: notion, idea; thought, purpose, intention, Heb_4:12; 1Pe_4:1.

 

[Lizbeth]

I won’t elude to knowing all of the history, but in 70 ad it was religion that God was fed up with. The warnings were there to come out of Judaism, but weren’t heeded by many. I’m not so certain that history will not repeat itself.

Corrupt religion turns to sin, it is given over to sin.......it becomes Mystery Babylon...given over to the plagues of being a cage full of demons. (The Roman Catholic church is a case in point.) The Jewish priesthood had become so grossly sinful and corrupt by 70 AD, (as well as murdering and mercilessly persecuting followers of the Way on top of that).....worse than the pagans....transgression come to the full....so that God had to fully judge it. And yes, I believe the mostly Gentile Christian church needs to likewise take warning. Israel being our ensample....to the Jew first, then the Gentile.

 

[Episkopos]

he made his thoughts and intents quite clear my friend . Very clear . so clear a child could have seen it .
You showed up late in this thread my friend . had you been there , You would have seen it very clearly .

A child IS seeing it. You are reading it the way you want to. I see you as a child of sorts. No one has PM'ed me as to your psychological condition...so I have to assume you have some kind of functioning faculties.

What I see in you is a stunted growth. You behave like a new believer who doesn't know one spirit from the other....always afraid of losing his salvation. Always afraid of anything that doesn't sound like baby Christian talk. You are obsessed with what makes you feel saved. A person who virtue-signals as you do does so to reassure himself that by pointing to what is right...that somehow rubs off on you. A classic virtue-signalling obsession....inspired by a dogmatic understanding of a religious scheme peddled by the system...that is there to make more money by getting more people like you in the pews.

The truth has been so watered down that your simplistic notions are seen as deep by others who are likewise infused with religious dogmatism. You can splash about in your religious puddles...but there is no depth in it to float your boat.

 

[ChristisGod]

When you are so uncareful in your reading...and are so quick to jump to conclusions...how are you going to be able to weigh the mysteries of God (for those who have not experienced resurrection life)?

Would someone as passive-aggressive as yourself understand what being born again even means? And about abiding in Christ?...whoever abides in Him walks as Jesus walked. In Him is no sin.

You are speaking on a dogmatic level....and reasoning what you read from the bible on that level.

We are born anew into the race of faith. Many are called...but few are chosen. You need to spend a year or so investigating the parallel between the book of Exodus and the Christian walk. The same goes for the 4 destinies. A superficial look will not overcome many years of dogmatic indoctrination and certainty.

Why concern yourself with mysteries when the plain truth you deny is self evident? No love it’s nothing but a noisy gong even if you actually knew a single mystery let alone all mysteries . See 1 Cor 13

hope this helps !!!

 

[ChristisGod]

I see you as a child of sorts. No one has PM'ed me as to your psychological condition...so I have to assume you have some kind of functioning faculties.

What I see in you is a stunted growth. You behave like a new believer who doesn't know one spirit from the other....always afraid of losing his salvation. Always afraid of anything that doesn't sound like baby Christian talk. You are obsessed with what makes you feel saved. A person who virtue-signals as you do does so to reassure himself that by...pointing to what is right...that somehow rubs off on you. A classic virtue-signalling obsession....inspired by a dogmatic understanding of a religious scheme peddled by the system...to make more money by getting more people in the pews.

The truth has been so watered down that your simplistic notions are seen as deep. You can splash about in your religious puddles...but there is no depth in it to float your boat.

We see you as carnal not spiritual tossed around by every wave of false doctrine

 

[ChristisGod]

I've been following along. I see what we all see, still, we are not the judges of another man's thoughts, and intents of the heart. We know how things appear to us, but in reality, what do we have except our opinions based on our perceptions? Unless God gives a discernment. It's enough to compare other's words with Scripture, and to hold to what is good, and reject what is false, or so it seems to me.

Much love!

Out of the heart speaketh a man

 

[amigo de christo]

I see you as a child of sorts. No one has PM'ed me as to your psychological condition...so I have to assume you have some kind of functioning faculties.

What I see in you is a stunted growth. You behave like a new believer who doesn't know one spirit from the other....always afraid of losing his salvation. Always afraid of anything that doesn't sound like baby Christian talk. You are obsessed with what makes you feel saved. A person who virtue-signals as you do does so to reassure himself that by...pointing to what is right...that somehow rubs off on you. A classic virtue-signalling obsession....inspired by a dogmatic understanding of a religious scheme peddled by the system...to make more money by getting more people in the pews.

The truth has been so watered down that your simplistic notions are seen as deep. But a puddle can splash about...but there is no depth in it to float your boat.

You first line alone sent joy into my heart . Though you meant it in another way .
I simply remembered what JESUS once said . LEST YE BECOME as CHILDREN you shall in no wise enter into the KINGDOM of GOD .
Ps , no one will PM you about my physcological condition , cause i aint got one EPI .
I dont see no shrinks , i dont take no meds . I follow the KING , the great shepard of the sheep .
And i have no problem saying or admitting i am but a child . BUT , and this is a big ol butt too .
I KNOW HE WHO KNOWS ALL , and HE has always let me know as i need to know .
I can do nothing without HIM but fail . IN HE ALONE and HIS CHRIST ALONE shall I BOAST .
For far too many men boast in themselves and their wisdom and i tell us all that is a grievious error in indeed .
LEt he who boasts , boast in the LORD , let he who glories , GLORY in the LORD .
And as far as feel saved . YOU the one doing that . I know i am . CAUSE MY TRUST , MY FAITH
MY HOPE is in THE CHRIST WHO SAVED . HE already done all that was required for my or anyones salvation .
JUST BELIEVE YE IN CHRIST JESUS WHOM GOD DID SEND and you shall have all you NEED to walk pleasing
unto GOD WHO SENT HIM . Now go and learn that EPI . hurry before its too late . FOR I desire
only good for you and thus I POINT TO CHRIST ALONE in hopes you will repent and BELIEVE .

 

[amigo de christo]

Corrupt religion turns to sin, it is given over to sin.......it becomes Mystery Babylon...given over to the plagues of being a cage full of demons. (The Roman Catholic church is a case in point.) The Jewish priesthood had become so grossly sinful and corrupt by 70 AD, (as well as murdering and mercilessly persecuting followers of the Way on top of that).....worse than the pagans....transgression come to the full....so that God had to fully judge it. And yes, I believe the mostly Gentile Christian church needs to likewise take warning. Israel being our ensample....to the Jew first, then the Gentile.

So lets examine something my dear and loved sister .
Corrupt religoin DOES turn to sin . It sure is given over to sin .
And now a word from CHRIST . And i will send the SPIRIT
and he will convict the world OF SIN , because they BELIEVE NOT ON ME .
ANY RELIGOIN that preaches there is no need to BELIEVE ON JESUS , IS SIN . Now hit the trenches sister
its truly all out war for the souls of men and we must point to HE ALONE who can save . THAT IS JESUS CHRIST .

 

[Johann]

I see you as a child of sorts. No one has PM'ed me as to your psychological condition...so I have to assume you have some kind of functioning faculties.

I'm glad you have mentioned this-as I notice a pattern with you-

Anxiety Disorders. ...
Depression. ...
Bipolar Disorder. ...
Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) ...
Schizophrenia. ...
Eating Disorders. ...
Disruptive behaviour and dissocial disorders. ...
Neurodevelopmental disorders.

--or maybe worse?

 

[amigo de christo]

Why concern yourself with mysteries when the plain truth you deny is self evident? No love it’s nothing but a noisy gong even if you actually knew a single mystery let alone all mysteries . See 1 Cor 13

hope this helps !!!

When i read this the very defintion of charity came back as a reminder .
Charity REJOICES IN THE TRUTH . IN THE TRUTH . epi dont .
So if give even my body to burned or all my goods to the poor yet i have not charity , THAT REJOICES IN THE TRUTH ,
it profits me nothing . JESUS IS THE TRUTH , the way and the LIFE and no man comes unto the FATHER but by the SON .
SEE , we lambs REJOICE IN JESUS WORDS . CHARITY REJOICES IN TRUTH and not in inquity .
exactly .

 

[amigo de christo]

I'm glad you have mentioned this-as I notice a pattern with you-

Anxiety Disorders. ...
Depression. ...
Bipolar Disorder. ...
Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) ...
Schizophrenia. ...
Eating Disorders. ...
Disruptive behaviour and dissocial disorders. ...
Neurodevelopmental disorders.

--or maybe worse?

All i know for sure and for certain is the man is in dire grave danger and does not know the TRUTH .
My simple diagnosis of that man is this . HE does not KNOW CHRIST but rather only some things about him
and preaches only of a cross , and a power HE DOES NOT KNOW .
FOR if one believes not that one must BELIEVE in CHRIST , they know neither the TRUTH nor the POWER OF GOD
or the cross . they only know part truths but not THE TRUTH . That man is in dire grave danger
lest he repent and fast .

 

[Johann]

A child IS seeing it. You are reading it the way you want to. I see you as a child of sorts. No one has PM'ed me as to your psychological condition...so I have to assume you have some kind of functioning faculties.

What I see in you is a stunted growth. You behave like a new believer who doesn't know one spirit from the other....always afraid of losing his salvation. Always afraid of anything that doesn't sound like baby Christian talk. You are obsessed with what makes you feel saved. A person who virtue-signals as you do does so to reassure himself that by pointing to what is right...that somehow rubs off on you. A classic virtue-signalling obsession....inspired by a dogmatic understanding of a religious scheme peddled by the system...that is there to make more money by getting more people like you in the pews.

The truth has been so watered down that your simplistic notions are seen as deep by others who are likewise infused with religious dogmatism. You can splash about in your religious puddles...but there is no depth in it to float your boat.

So where are you "diving in" since you don't use Scriptures?