How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

[Eternally Grateful]

Could it be what’s cast off is Judaism?

did Abraham Cast off Judaism? Did the gentiles who believed in the beginning of the church cast off Judaism??

Its casting off self.. No one will come to Christ if they have not cast off self..because they will fail to see their need for him

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What I meant was…they can’t claim Judaism made me do it.

there flesh made them do it. There are selfish.. it is part of the lost soul.. It is part of their nature.. Thats why they must be made new. Created in Christ for good works..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

All things have been put under His feet, but we do not yet "see" all things put under Him. We have faith and do see miracles, but don't see miracles happening every minute of every day. Paul even had to tell Timothy to take wine for his stomach and ailments....why wasn't he healed, even though the early church had "great grace" upon them. And did Peter ever walk on water again? Jesus only did what He saw the Father doing. And we walk by faith, not by sight....many use the fact that there is suffering in the world (not cured by miracles) as an excuse to reject God.

something interesting was brought up in Church last thursday. The fact that Jesus never healed the same way.. When he made different blind men see, He did it different.

God is a personal God. He relates to us as individuals. He knows our needs. He also says he may not heal our physical ailments or remove us from tribulation. But in all things, it is for his purpose

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You are not Jesus.


Great grace does not cause stomach ailments. You are conflating things to avoid obvious truth about how the bible is written.


He did better than that. He stood in the faith OF Christ never wavering. Ding miraculous things and speaking with God's own mouth.

For all your selective bible reading...you need to be thorough...and less pandering to your flesh.


But do you realize that was an actual seeing...not a WWFD (What would Father do). We can also do likewise when we are seated with Him in Zion. You confuse faith with beliefs and hope.

On a religious scale...yes. I'm not speaking on a religious scale...look much higher.

Can you tell us how to be born again?

 

[Waiting on him]

did Abraham Cast off Judaism? Did the gentiles who believed in the beginning of the church cast off Judaism??

I would hope the gentiles rejected Judaizers as Paul encouraged them too do in his epistles too them.

Its casting off self.. No one will come to Christ if they have not cast off self..because they will fail to see their need for him

Then cast yourself.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I would hope the gentiles rejected Judaizers as Paul encouraged them too do in his epistles too them.

but that will not save them

Then cast yourself.

I casted myself over 40 years ago thank you

Have you? When were you born again?

 

[amigo de christo]

but that will not save them

I casted myself over 40 years ago thank you

Have you? When were you born again?

I would not be suprised if by the casting off of self they probably mean casting off religoius dogma .
You know things like saying ONE must BELIEVE IN JESUS . They think thats all OLD fundamental religoin
that needs to die . As they follow the so called new and improved social all inclusive lie .
Watch their words and actions . Epi has more than once spoke of muslims and buddists and etc
To many their call is DIE to the BIBLE and FOLLOW THE NEW REVELATION . AND ITS FALSE my friend .
WE are gonna stick to CHRIST , HIS GOSPEL and the bible .

 

[amigo de christo]

but that will not save them

I casted myself over 40 years ago thank you

Have you? When were you born again?

In other words its cast off biblical traditions and learn the new revelations of men like epi and the all inclusive .
I would not marvel at all my dear friend .
Many believe they had some kind of great awakening , but when we test that awakening by the doctrine they now teach
ITS EASY to see IT was NO AWAKENING , but rather twisted knowledge to turn folks away from original truth
of the one true faith that was once delivered long ago to the apostels .
They big on SELF REVELATION and consider those who remain under the original truth
as fanatics , extremists , and even some words i wont dare repeat in the presence of the living .
To them its now all about a new utopian empire and the old ways have GOT TO GO as they prepare
the new ways . Its known as the falling away , but they call it the awakening .

 

[amigo de christo]

but that will not save them

I casted myself over 40 years ago thank you

Have you? When were you born again?

To many being born again is when they recieved their awakening , their hidden knowledge , their great mystery .
And to them it dont matter what one calls it or what religion they sat under .
THEY BELIEVE in the universal religion that joins all together as one to do common good for the planet and humanity .
OH its a mystery all right . THE MYSTERY OF INQUITY to lead them astray from the ONE TRUE GOSPLE OF CHRIST
from the ONLY ONE WHO COULD and DOES SAVE .
But to them it simply is the will of GOD for all to unite under a common mindset .
And that mindset , though it preaches tolerance unity and love and calls for the common good of mankind ,
ITS nothing more than a ruse from the dragon to lead all right to a lie by leading them away
from the DIRE NECESSITY OF CHRIST and into the dire necessity for world peace and unity and to be as one .
IT IS A delusion and its a STRONG ONE TOO . ITS UNIFYING secular , political realms , its taken hold
on education , and on all religions . To bring them to what they think is love .
and what the religoins will see as the love god . LOVE that cometh NOT OF GOD , BUT OF THE WORLD and of the dragon
who unifies the many to now be as one . The delusion itself cannot be stopped .
BUT we can warn against the falsehoods , expose the lies and POINT ONLY TO CHRIST in hopes some will hear .

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I would not be suprised if by the casting off of self they probably mean casting off religoius dogma .
You know things like saying ONE must BELIEVE IN JESUS . They think thats all OLD fundamental religoin
that needs to die . As they follow the so called new and improved social all inclusive lie .
Watch their words and actions . Epi has more than once spoke of muslims and buddists and etc
To many their call is DIE to the BIBLE and FOLLOW THE NEW REVELATION . AND ITS FALSE my friend .
WE are gonna stick to CHRIST , HIS GOSPEL and the bible .

casting off self is casting off self.. But I can see this is what Epi thinks. thats what he says all the time

 

[Eternally Grateful]

To many being born again is when they recieved their awakening , their hidden knowledge , their great mystery .
And to them it dont matter what one calls it or what religion they sat under .
THEY BELIEVE in the universal religion that joins all together as one to do common good for the planet and humanity .
OH its a mystery all right . THE MYSTERY OF INQUITY to lead them astray from the ONE TRUE GOSPLE OF CHRIST
from the ONLY ONE WHO COULD and DOES SAVE .
But to them it simply is the will of GOD for all to unite under a common mindset .
And that mindset , though it preaches tolerance unity and love and calls for the common good of mankind ,
ITS nothing more than a ruse from the dragon to lead all right to a lie by leading them away
from the DIRE NECESSITY OF CHRIST and into the dire necessity for world peace and unity and to be as one .
IT IS A delusion and its a STRONG ONE TOO . ITS UNIFYING secular , political realms , its taken hold
on education , and on all religions . To bring them to what they think is love .
and what the religoins will see as the love god . LOVE that cometh NOT OF GOD , BUT OF THE WORLD and of the dragon
who unifies the many to now be as one . The delusion itself cannot be stopped .
BUT we can warn against the falsehoods , expose the lies and POINT ONLY TO CHRIST in hopes some will hear .

John 3 Jesus tells us how to be born again and the result.

Thats why I ask them what born again means..

 

[amigo de christo]

John 3 Jesus tells us how to be born again and the result.

Thats why I ask them what born again means..

Oh i know my friend . I know exactly why YOU ask them . I was just explaining what the mystery of inquity teaches .

 

[Episkopos]

In other words its cast off biblical traditions

Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

and learn the new revelations of men like epi and the all inclusive .
I would not marvel at all my dear friend .

2 Corinthians 4:16 - For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.

Many believe they had some kind of great awakening ,

Eph. 1:18 “The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,”

but when we test that awakening by the doctrine they now teach
ITS EASY to see IT was NO AWAKENING , but rather twisted knowledge to turn folks away from original truth

2 Cor. 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter kills, but the spirit gives life.

of the one true faith that was once delivered long ago to the apostels .
They big on SELF REVELATION and consider those who remain under the original truth
as fanatics , extremists , and even some words i wont dare repeat in the presence of the living .

There are many spiritually dead people here...so it's safe to repeat dead statements.

To them its now all about a new utopian empire

The kingdom of God. Seek it first.

and the old ways have GOT TO GO as they prepare
the new ways .

2 Cor. 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Its known as the falling away , but they call it the awakening .

The falling away began long ago. You are perpetuating it without understanding who you are and what you are doing...merely paying lip service to the deadness of the letter as you rail against the Spirit of truth.

 

[amigo de christo]

The mystery of GOD is the GOSPEL of CHRIST .
The prophecy of GOD is the testimony of JESUS CHRIST .
The mystery of inquity is what i explained above , and it wont point to the DIRE NECESSITY TO BELIEVE ON CHRIST
the prophecy of anti christ , leads alll to be as one under a lie , and it points to SELF salvation , self , self , self .
Be on gaurd .

 

[amigo de christo]

I rest my case , epi exposes himself .

 

[amigo de christo]

casting off self is casting off self.. But I can see this is what Epi thinks. thats what he says all the time

casting off self is indeed casting off self .
And yet as you clearly see , EPI has cast on SELF and points to mans ability by them SELF, to attain to righteousness
to by self carry their cross , to by self save themselves . EASY to see it is .
And yet we point to CHRIST for RIGHTEOUSNESS , CHRIST . TO CHRIST . HUGE DIFFERENCE .
either we point to CHRIST , or we point to SELF . and EPI knows not what i speak of .

 

[Eternally Grateful]

There are many spiritually dead people here...so it's safe to repeat dead statements.

So how are the spiritually dead made alive (born again)

Can you answer.

Jesus said he who believes is not condemned, He who does not believe is condemned already

How is this condemnation removed?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

casting off self is indeed casting off self .
And yet as you clearly see , EPI has cast on SELF and points to mans ability by them SELF, to attain to righteousness
to by self carry their cross , to by self save themselves . EASY to see it is .
And yet we point to CHRIST for RIGHTEOUSNESS , CHRIST . TO CHRIST . HUGE DIFFERENCE .
either we point to CHRIST , or we point to SELF . and EPI knows not what i speak of .

he will not even answer how condemnation is removed, how a person who is dead because of sin is made alive in Christ.''

its worrysome that someone who claims to be a christian leader does not understand the basic gospel.

 

[ChristisGod]

It appears that it is you who misunderstands!!!

No Paul is not misunderstood, epi misunderstands Paul . Believers understand Paul.

 

[ChristisGod]

There are many spiritually dead people here...so it's safe to repeat dead statements.


The kingdom of God. Seek it first.


2 Cor. 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

The falling away began long ago. You are perpetuating it without understanding who you are and what you are doing...merely paying lip service to the deadness of the letter as you rail against the Spirit of truth.

Agreed since you are not born again you are dead spiritually.