Was Adam Imparted Free Will From The Beginning Of Creation?

[Titus]

Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will either.

If you are correct, then you are wasting my time, and everyone else.
If man plays no part in His sins and his faith, then its futility to teach me your beliefs.

In your religion everyone who is going to be elected has already been pre-selected.
Therefore, I dont need to learn anything.
No one needs to study the bible.
It's all determined already who is going to heaven and who is going to hell
No freewill means there is NOTHING we can do, to effect our salvation.

So, stop wasting everyone's time, you cannot influence anyone on where God has already determined who He chooses to burn in hell and who He has already elected to heaven.

 

[Kermos]

This is misrepresentation.
I dont believe men are all good, perfect spotless.
I believe babies are perfect, spotless without sin.

So, then God had me write to you:

David was not good because "No one is good except God alone" (Lord Jesus Christ, Mark 10:18),

In your heart, you are nullifying the need for the Savior by claiming man is good, in fact, you think the opposite of Christ's sayings are true resulting in your heart's treasure (Matthew 15:16-19) being "Everyone is good even God alone" (the word of @Titus), yet the Christ says "He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day" (John 12:48)
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then it is a true statement because every baby (everyone starts out as a baby nowadays) is good, according to you, at least initially.

The original post contains the Truth (John 14:6) which shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will either.

 

[Kermos]

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The Natural Is The First State Of Being For All Mere Mortals​

The Apostle Paul identifies every man starts out as a natural man with "the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual" (1 Corinthians 15:46).

The Apostle Paul states that man is accountable to God for man's own sin against God with "since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse" (Romans 1:20).

The Apostle Paul includes even the Gentiles in the Law "For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves" (Romans 2:14).

The Apostle Paul states that man is accountable to God for man's own crime against God with "we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law [comes] the knowledge of sin" (Romans 3:19-20).

The Apostle Paul explains that the commands of God are foolishness to man with a "natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised" (1 Corinthians 2:14)

The Apostle Paul declares that man's flesh opposes the Spirit of God with "the flesh desires against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh. For these are opposed to one another" (Galatians 5:17).

THE FIRST STATE OF MAN IS OPPOSITION TO GOD, AND THE ONLY WAY (JOHN 14:6) FOR MAN'S SALVATION IS FOR GOD TO BIRTH MAN ANEW (JOHN 3:3-8), NOT A WORK OF A CHOICE BY MAN, BUT STRICTLY THE WORK OF GOD IN MAN (JOHN 6:29).

The original post contains the Truth (John 14:6) which shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will either.

 

[Titus]

You lie about it being an assumption because David literally states "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity" (Psalm 51:5). David's literally reveals that he himself is evil for his entire life.

More assumptions and misrepresentation.
Psalms is poetic language.
Take it literal and you are showing a lack of understanding.

 

[Titus]

So, then God had me write to you

Since you are a determinist.
It can be possible God has chosen you to burn in hell.
Its possible that what you believe is God deceiving you.
God could be using you to deceive all of us if we are all predetermined to believe your lies.

There is no assurance in your religion that you are one of the elect.
You could also be under strong delusion since God may hate you.

All calvinist's think they are the chosen.
Except one of my calvanist friends who believes he is non-elect.
He used to be on this forum.
He called himself Lifelong sinner.
That was a honest calvanist.

 

[Hillsage]

NKJV Romans 11:32,
This passage very well refutes calvinism.
Calvinism teaches only a certain few were chosen by God to be saved, that God only predestined some to be saved. The rest God predestined for hell.
Paul says God wants ALL to be saved, therefore Hillsage contradicts Paul.

Romans 11:32,
- For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on  ALL.
Calvinism has God withholding mercy from many. Only mercy for some never ALL.

FYI I am not a Calvinist, nor am I an Armenian-ist....I am a Calminian-ist ;) And with that POV I disagree with you and Paul, not me and Paul. Let me share why;

You appear to believe the Nearly Inspired Version, without testing it.

NIV 1TI 2:4 who wants/thelo all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

Read in 'multiple' other translations.

RSV 1TI 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
YLT 1TI 2:4 who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth;
KJV 1TI 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

2309 thelo
to determine (as an act option from subj impulse; whereas 1014 prop denotes rather a pass. acquiescence in obj considerations), ie choose or prefer (lit or fig); by impl to wish, ie be inclined to (sometimes adv gladly); impers. for the fut tense, to be about to; by Heb. to delight in

Your NIV appears to come from more emphasis on the definition of 1014 which is not the majority understanding of the use of that word in this verse.

 

[forever]

Was Adam imparted free will from the beginning of Creation?

The Word of God indicates no based upon both scriptural text and context.

The following is carefully presented proof establishing Adam was formed with intent not endowed with free will.

1. God issued prophecy about man eating the fruit (Genesis 2:17)
   AT the time God commanded the man, Adam, not to eat of the tree
   AND the consequence of disobedience is declared - that is that death of the man would result in eating from the tree
   YET a command does not convey ability (see also God's Commands Distinguised From Man's Ability)
   BUT the language contains a prophetic construct indicating assurance of occurrence - "for in the day that you eat" - the "for" is promissory
   NOT a conditional logic construct such as "if in the day that you eat"
   IN fact, the English word "for" is translated from the Hebrew word כִּ֗י (ki)
   AND the Hebrew word כִּ֗י (ki) contains the meanings of these English words "that", "for", "when" (Strong's Hebrew: 3588. כִּ֗י (ki) -- that, for, when)
   THEREFORE the word "when" fits where the word "for" resides in Genesis 2:17
   THUS the phrase "when in the day that you eat" is an accurate translation for Genesis 2:17
   SO this confirms the promissory nature, the prophecy of man eating the fruit, with the word "for"/"when" in Genesis 2:17
   AND this imposes contextual certainty indicating God's foreknowledge over the matter described in Genesis 2:17
   SO there is no free will indicated for Adam
   AND the firm fact is established
   THAT God reigns in the affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)
2. Attributes/Characteristics Compared And Contrasted
   1. Examining attribute as relating to the purported facility of free will in Adam
      WITH a targeted result of logical deductive reasoning leveraging compare and contrast of attributes/facilities
      SINCE Adam was made in the image according to the likeness of God (Genesis 1:26)
      THEN some persons of the creation (creatures) argue that specific facility was given to Adam
      IN particular God willpowering purported free will into man during the creation of Adam
      THEN Adam could not have used free will to perform evil against God
      BECAUSE God will not use willpower in order to perform evil against God's self (Psalm 5:4, Psalm 92:15, Deuteronomy 32:4)
      THEREFORE it follows that Man could not use free will in order to perform evil against God
      1. The logical extension of free will on this basis results in man possessing expanded facilities beyond God's facilities
      2. God is Creator; on the other hand, man is creature
      3. Largely, I use free will to mean man choosing toward God, emphatically Lord Jesus Christ.
      4. Scripture does not include the mention of endowing Adam with free will
      5. Man's free will is a precept of man (Matthew 15:9)
   2. Adam as part of God's Plan of Redemption through the Christ for mankind before the foundation of the world
      SINCE God saw creation was very good on the 6th Day (Genesis 1:31)
      AND God's Plan of Redemption through the Christ for mankind is good (Ephesians 1:1-14,Ephesians 2:13)
      THEN a free will Adam could not have been roaming the Garden of Eden with the ability to choose to obey God's command not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (Genesis 2:17)
      SINCE the only command carrying a punishment was the prohibition upon Adam against eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
      THUS a free will Adam could have disrupted God's Plan of Redemption through the Christ for mankind
      SO God could not conclude with certainty by declaring everything was good on the sixth day with a free will Adam in control roaming the Garden of Eden
      THEREFORE it follows that Adam could not be endowed with the attribute of free will
   3. The timeline of Adam knowing good and evil
      BEFORE Adam and Eve ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
      THEN Adam and Eve knew not good and evil
      AFTER Adam and Eve ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
      THEN Adam and Eve knew good and evil
      FOR the delineation is clarified when God said "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil" (Genesis 3:22)
      YET based on the Word of God saying "has become" recorded in Genesis 3:22
      THEN Adam did not know good and evil before eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
      SO Adam did not know good and evil when God issued the command "from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die!" (Genesis 2:17)
      THEREFORE at the time of eating, Adam listened and followed the last that he heard about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
      WHICH Adam heard from Eve
      FOR God said "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it'" (Genesis 3:17)
      SO Adam listened to Eve and Adam ate from the tree prior to knowing good and evil
      AND a person does good by obeying God; on the other hand, a person does evil by disobeying God
      SO free will choosing of good or choosing of evil is not the context
      AND action is the context
      SINCE good and evil are not known to Adam prior to eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
      THEREFORE it follows that Adam was not endowed with the attribute of free will
   4. The attribute of "joining" - marriage
      1. Lord Jesus says a topically very profound statement of "from the beginning of creation, [God] made them male and female. For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother, and the two shall become one flesh; so they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together let no man separate." (Mark 10:6-9)
      2. "God has joined together" is a clear reference by Jesus to Christ and the Bride of Christ
      3. "God has joined together" is a clear reference by Jesus to marriage between "male and female" (creatures both)
      4. "God has joined together" is a clear reference by Jesus to Adam and Eve, the man and the woman
      5. God does the joining, while, on the other hand, man and woman are only the joyful recipients
      6. The facility of "joining" is not attributed to man and/or woman
      7. The facility of "joining" is attributed to God

For expanded topic coverage, please see this integral essay Almighty God's Awesome Creation In Amazing Splendor (not a ChristianityBoard.com link),

If anyone venture a reply to this thread, I encourage diligent care for it is written "do not add to His words or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar" (Proverbs 30:6).

May the Lord abound mercy and understanding and strength and grace in we His own for the Day approaches rapidly!

Adam became a Monster -- according to all prophets .

He went 'to the north' [=the north of eden] after the fall
and made a pact with the demon-nations
against us and against God.

this is the Isaiah 14 : that is not about 'Lucifer' but about ADAM .

 

[Kermos]

If you are correct, then you are wasting my time, and everyone else.
If man plays no part in His sins and his faith, then its futility to teach me your beliefs.

In your religion everyone who is going to be elected has already been pre-selected.
Therefore, I dont need to learn anything.
No one needs to study the bible.
It's all determined already who is going to heaven and who is going to hell
No freewill means there is NOTHING we can do, to effect our salvation.

So, stop wasting everyone's time, you cannot influence anyone on where God has already determined who He chooses to burn in hell and who He has already elected to heaven.

"I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes" (The Apostle Paul, Romans 1:16), so the Word of God is good unto salvation, and God has me here proclaiming the Word of God, such as:

• "you did not choose Me, but I chose you" (Lord Jesus Christ, John 15:16), so God chooses people to be friends (John 15:15 , the prior verse) and to believe (John 6:29) and to be born again (John 3:3-8) and for righteous works (John 3:21, John 15:5) and to repent (Matthew 11:25) and to love (John 13:34) and unto salvation (John 15:19 the same passage).
• "I chose you out of the world" (Lord Jesus Christ, John 15:19, includes salvation), so God chooses people unto salvation.
• "What I say to you I say to all" (Lord Jesus Christ, Mark 13:37 - Jesus had taken the Apostles Peter, Andrew, James, and John aside in private and said this), so all the blessings of God mentioned above are to all believers in all time.

Christians are in awe of the works of God and the Word of God. I am in awe of the works of God and the Word of God.

Christians do not tell other Christians to cease and desist proclaiming the Word of God.

You commanded me to stop proclaiming the Word of God, and I reject your command.

Lord Jesus Christ, the Power of God, opens the ears enabling a person to hear, and I believe this, but, apparently, based on your writing, you deny the Power of God.

The original post contains the Truth (John 14:6) which shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will either.

 

[Titus]

FYI I am not a Calvinist, nor am I an Armenian-ist....I am a Calminian-ist ;) And with that POV I disagree with you and Paul, not me and Paul. Let me share why;

You appear to believe the Nearly Inspired Version, without testing it.

NIV 1TI 2:4 who wants/thelo all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

Read in 'multiple' other translations.

RSV 1TI 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
YLT 1TI 2:4 who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth;
KJV 1TI 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

2309 thelo
to determine (as an act option from subj impulse; whereas 1014 prop denotes rather a pass. acquiescence in obj considerations), ie choose or prefer (lit or fig); by impl to wish, ie be inclined to (sometimes adv gladly); impers. for the fut tense, to be about to; by Heb. to delight in

Your NIV appears to come from more emphasis on the definition of 1014 which is not the majority understanding of the use of that word in this verse.

What?
I am totally against the NIV.
It is a calvinist slant towards calvinist theology.

God died for all,

1John 2:2,
- And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins(elect) and not for ours only(the already elected) but also for the whole world(those who choose to be elected).

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Adam became a Monster

made a pact with the demon-nations
against us and against God.

this is the Isaiah 14 : that is not about 'Lucifer' but about ADAM .

Say what???

 

[Titus]

Christians are in awe of the works of God and the Word of God. I am in awe of the works of God and the Word of God

You being a calvinist cannot ever know if you are saved by God.
You could be deceived by your god.
Your god hates some.
You cannot know if you are hated or loved.
You can be deceived into believing false doctrines because that is what your god predestined for you.

Also, your religion has you being saved before you believe the gospel.
According to calvinism God has chosen the elect before we were created.
This verse is perverted by calvinist,
2Timothy 1:9,
- who has saved us(elect) and called us with a Holy calling not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began.

So, you don't believe anyone needs to hear the gospel.
Since God has already chosen His elect. Are men in the jungles of Africa that have never heard of Jesus Christ and died going to he lost if they never heard the gospel read or preached to them?
Since God does not allow mankind to play any part in our salvation our election.
Therefore who He saves has nothing to do with another man's preaching or teaching from the gospel, Romans 1:16.

 

[Kermos]

More assumptions and misrepresentation.
Psalms is poetic language.
Take it literal and you are showing a lack of understanding.

Your heart throws out the Truth (John 14:6) contained in "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity" (Psalm 51:5). David literally reveals that he himself is evil for his entire life.

You desperately try to subtract from scripture, and it is written "The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked" (Jeremiah 17:9).

In Hebrew, the grammatical inflection of a word can indicate the person (first person "I", "me"; second person "you"; third person "he", "she", "it"), the gender (masculine, feminine, common), and the number (singular, plural); additionally, noun and verb agreement is established grammatically by inflection of the noun and the verb.

In "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me" (Psalms 51:5), David's grammatical inflection defines David as the iniquitous person. "I was brought forth" comes from a single Hebrew word which is first person/common gender/singular; furthermore, "in iniquity" comes from another single Hebrew word which is common gender/singular. David applied the characteristic of "iniquity" to himself, and the common gender with first person makes this completely clear.

Your heart says that David said "I was brought into a world of iniquity" which is NOT what David wrote, truly David wrote "I was brought forth in iniquity".

The only sinless person of His own doings is the Lord Jesus Christ, "He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him" (2 Corinthians 5:21).

David was not good because "No one is good except God alone" (Lord Jesus Christ, Mark 10:18),

In your heart, you are nullifying the need for the Savior by claiming man is good, in fact, you think the opposite of Christ's sayings are true resulting in your heart's treasure (Matthew 15:16-19) being "Everyone is good even God alone" (the word of @Titus), yet the Christ says "He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day" (John 12:48)

The original post contains the Truth (John 14:6) which shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will either.

 

[Titus]

in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will either.

Then you are typing out things not of your own will but what God has programmed you to type.
Therefore if your god, hates you, he is using you as a servant of satan to spread false doctrine.

You have no control over what you believe or do.
2Thessalonians 2:11,
- and for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Since according to calvinism we have no freewill to choose God.
It is possible that Kermos has been given strong delusion to believe a lie.

He has no choice in the matter. No freewill.

 

[Kermos]

God died for all,

1John 2:2,
- And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins(elect) and not for ours only(the already elected) but also for the whole world(those who choose to be elected).

God died exclusively for all that are in or will be in the Assembly of God.

Relating 1 John 5:19 With 1 John 2:2 - And - Relating 1 John 2:2 with 1 John 2:1​

Look at John's preceding words to 1 John 5:19 about the born of God Christian "the evil one does not touch him" (1 John 5:18).

The "part of the whole world person" "lies in the evil one" (1 John 5:19) means the evil one touches the person (1 John 5:18).

1 John 5:18 and 1 John 5:19 refer to diametric polar opposite states of being for persons.

Born of God Christians "have overcome the evil one" (1 John 2:13), yet the "part of the whole world person" "lies in the evil one" (1 John 5:19) has not overcome by being beyond the evil one. "Overcome" and "beyond" are synonyms.

The phrase "lies in" is an intimate affair which involves "touch" with an intimate nature, so the group of people that are a part of "the whole world" are intimate, even servile, with "the evil one", and "No one can serve two masters" (Matthew 6:24).

We born of God Christians are not part of "the whole world" in "the whole world lies in the evil one" (1 John 5:19).

Anyone who claims to be part of "the whole world" in "the whole world lies in the evil one" (1 John 5:19) is not a born of God Christian by their own admission.

No Christian lies in the evil one; therefore, "the whole world" in 1 John 5:19 does not include Christians.

Since "the whole world" in 1 John 5:19 does not mean everyone everywhere in all time, then other occurrences of the word "world" in the New Testament can be constrained by context.

"The whole world" in 1 John 2:2 does not mean everyone everywhere in all time similar to the fact that the whole world" in 1 John 5:19 does not mean everyone everywhere in all time.

The Apostle John wrote "He Himself is the propitiation for our sins and not for ours only, but also for the whole world" (1 John 2:2), and this "the whole world" mentioned by John refers only to the chosen persons of God (John 15:16, John 15:19) who are yet to be imparted the work of God which is faith/belief in Lord Jesus Christ whom the Father has sent (John 6:29).

In the preceding verse John wrote "I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" (1 John 2:1).

The free-willian philosophy that the phrase "the whole world" in 1 John 2:2 results in propitiation for everyone everywhere in all time culminates in universalism because the sins of unbelievers would be covered by Jesus Christ the Advocate at the unbelievers death because in the preceding verse John wrote "if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father" (1 John 2:1) - the word "anyone" is the pivotal point resulting in universalism for free-willian philosophy because "anyone" includes "the whole world".

Universalism is deception because the Word of God says "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 7:21) thus Jesus indicates that some people do not enter heaven which means those people go to hell (Matthew 25:41).

The Advocate succeeds every single time that He advocates for the forgiveness of a person's sins with the Father.

Free-willian philosophers think that the Advocate fails in some of His advocacies with the Father because there are person's sins which are not forgiven by God among the "anyone" in "if anyone sins", so free-willian philosophers think that Christ the Advocate is faulty, error-prone, false, and untrue.

John's letter is to Christian believers; therefore, John's letter is constrained by the context of persons believing in Christ. In 1 John 2:2, the verse's first third establishes that Christ is the propitiation, the verse's second third establishes for the sins of current believers, and the verse's third third establishes for the sins of future believers. There is no extant beyond Christian believers in 1 John 2:2.

This is Apostolic doctrine because the Apostle John is among the writers of these quoted passages.

The original post contains the Truth (John 14:6) which shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will either.

 

[Titus]

God taught that He died for everyone. That is not universalism.
Universalism is when you believe everyone is going to heaven despite what an individual believes.

God died exclusively for all that are in or will be in the Assembly of God

By your teaching it must also be true that God exclusively chose the many to burn in hell before they were born.

You cannot know that you are among the loved or the hated.
You will only know if you are elected when you face God in judgement.

Also your wife and children may be hated by your god.
They have no freewill ability to be saved.
This is the god you serve.
You should not correct your children to do right.
They are totally depraved wicked sinners that cannot do right no matter how much you try and make them.
If they do anything that is right it must be for the wrong reasons.
How do you love a god that is going to burn your wife and children in hell, and save you.
Knowing that He foreordained it, without anyone's freewill choice to change what God has decreed?
You are no more deserving heaven as your children are deserving hell.
You teach we are all equally wicked with no good in us.

 

[Titus]

The phrase "lies in" is an intimate affair which involves "touch" with an intimate nature, so the group of people that are a part of "the whole world" are intimate, even servile, with "the evil one", and "No one can serve two masters" (Matthew 6:24).

And according to your religion
GOD CREATED THEM TO BE EVIL.
Therefore who can blame anyone who is evil in your religion?
You cannot.
Therefore only God is accountable for the wicked and those who go to hell.
Man is not accountable for his sinful wickedness for he has no freewill to choose as you teach.

 

[Kermos]

You being a calvinist cannot ever know if you are saved by God.
You could be deceived by your god.
Your god hates some.
You cannot know if you are hated or loved.
You can be deceived into believing false doctrines because that is what your god predestined for you.

Also, your religion has you being saved before you believe the gospel.
According to calvinism God has chosen the elect before we were created.
This verse is perverted by calvinist,
2Timothy 1:9,
- who has saved us(elect) and called us with a Holy calling not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began.

So, you don't believe anyone needs to hear the gospel.
Since God has already chosen His elect. Are men in the jungles of Africa that have never heard of Jesus Christ and died going to he lost if they never heard the gospel read or preached to them?
Since God does not allow mankind to play any part in our salvation our election.
Therefore who He saves has nothing to do with another man's preaching or teaching from the gospel, Romans 1:16.

You keep referring to some unscriptural thing to which I have no part, so I'll just mosey on past this post of yours.

Still, no free will written in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24), with Paul in accord for he conveyed that Adam “not willingly” subjected creation to futility by eating of the tree forbidden for eating since Paul included all time prior to Paul’s birth by his writing “until now” (Romans 8:20-22).

“YHWH is righteous in all his ways and holy in all his works” (Psalm 145:17).

THE ALL KNOWING GOD (JOHN 16:30) GETS EXCLUSIVE CREDIT AND GLORY FOR MAN’S SALVATION (JOHN 3:3-8), AND MAN DOES NOTHING - NOT EVEN A CHOICE (JOHN 15:16).

The Redemption of Mankind through the Christ is certain, even before the foundation of the world (Ephesians 1:1-14).

"What I have said, that I will bring about; what I have planned, that I will do" (Isaiah 46:11).

No purpose of God's can be thwarted (Job 42:2), so free-willian philosophy is proven to be deception.

The original post contains the Truth (John 14:6) which shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will either.

 

[Titus]

Typical calvinist to ignore where his doctrinal teachings lead them.

You keep referring to some unscriptural thing to which I have no part, so I'll just mosey on past this post of yours.

All of what you are teaching is unscriptual.

THE ALL KNOWING GOD (JOHN 16:30) GETS EXCLUSIVE CREDIT AND GLORY FOR MAN’S SALVATION (JOHN 3:3-8), AND MAN DOES NOTHING - NOT EVEN A CHOICE (JOHN 15:16)

This proves your religion makes God gulity for all who go to hell.
Man is not accountable for what he does.
Man cannot choose God or satan. God chooses for him.

Therefore God is made gulity for all who go to hell.

 

[Kermos]

Then you are typing out things not of your own will but what God has programmed you to type.
Therefore if your god, hates you, he is using you as a servant of satan to spread false doctrine.

You have no control over what you believe or do.
2Thessalonians 2:11,
- and for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Since according to calvinism we have no freewill to choose God.
It is possible that Kermos has been given strong delusion to believe a lie.

He has no choice in the matter. No freewill.

I love Lord Jesus Christ, and my Savior loves me so much that He died for my sin that I be with Him forever! Praise the Lord Jesus Christ! He promises, and He fulfills! Lord Jesus is my God forever! All glory and honor and praise to the Living God!

Now, you wrote "your god, hates you, he is using you as a servant of satan to spread false doctrine", so you convey that you think Beelezebul controls the speaker of all the red text below:

• "you did not choose Me, but I chose you" (Lord Jesus Christ, John 15:16), so God chooses people to be friends (John 15:15 , the prior verse) and to believe (John 6:29) and to be born again (John 3:3-8) and for righteous works (John 3:21, John 15:5) and to repent (Matthew 11:25) and to love (John 13:34) and unto salvation (John 15:19 the same passage).
• "I chose you out of the world" (Lord Jesus Christ, John 15:19, includes salvation), so God chooses people unto salvation.
• "What I say to you I say to all" (Lord Jesus Christ, Mark 13:37 - Jesus had taken the Apostles Peter, Andrew, James, and John aside in private and said this), so all the blessings of God mentioned above are to all believers in all time.

Christians are in awe of the works of God and the Word of God. I am in awe of the works of God and the Word of God.

No Christian calls God by the name of Beelezebul as others did "And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? On account of this, they will be your judges" (Matthew 12:27).

Lord Jesus Christ, the Power of God, opens the ears enabling a person to hear, and I believe this, but, apparently, based on your writing, you deny the Power of God.

The original post contains the Truth (John 14:6) which shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will either.

 

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I love Lord Jesus Christ, and my Savior loves me so much that He died for my sin that I be with Him forever! Praise the Lord Jesus Christ! He promises, and He fulfills! Lord Jesus is my God forever! All glory and honor and praise to the Living God

Saying you love God in your religion does not prove you are elected.
Later in life God can cause you to become an unbeliever.
Whether you believe this or not it is possible because you have no freewill to think you love God.
God determined you to think you love God.
Its possible God has deceived you into believing you are saved.

I know of calvinist pastors who have preached for churches in Virginia for decades leave over adultry with women in the church.
Those men were teaching exactly what you are teaching.
They claimed to love God just as you claim it.
How can I know you are not just another person who proclaims the calvinist gospel today.
But in the future will be back in willful sin.
There is no freewill for you to know where God is going to lead you.
You have no choice what you will say, believe and practise tomorrow.