How to Walk in Righteousness

[stunnedbygrace]

I'm ready to answer the question of how to walk in righteousness. Die. Then one will walk in righteousness.

There are two kinds of righteousness. There is caring for your neighbor at least as much as you care for Yourself. And then there is the righteousness that comes to us through trust, which is to enter into Christs righteousness which is in holiness.

One is I in you, the other is you in Me, remain in Me.

 

[APAK]

Uhhh…he really isn’t looking for support from men. He’s just speaking what He’s been given to speak. I don’t see how he can help having men angry and perturbed at him. Every time God ever gave a man a message to speak, it angered men. It just did. That hasn’t changed any.

I'm sorry you believe he is a prophet of sorts. I do not! Just leave it at that for now, maybe it's the best advise.

 

[MatthewG]

I am 56 years of age and was raised Catholic and remained that way until I started reading the Bible and then renounced Catholicism 6 years ago.

I believe that I am a sinner and I am a "slave to sin" as Jesus discussed but that I am forgiven and saved because of my faith in Jesus and the sacrifice that he made for ALL people.

I enjoy "flawed" people like myself, perhaps because I can better relate to them. As Jesus said, he came for the sinners and not the righteous. :)

Relatable. Nice post.

 

[marks]

I pray that you two can come together in love as Jesus desires.

1 Corinthians 11:19 KJV
For there must be also heresies (division into sects) among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

We need to see the differences between what people teach, because some things aren't true, and that needs to be known.

Much love!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You need to go to the one Mediator...Jesus Christ...to take you to the Father. The Father will tolerate NO sin whatsoever...so you will need to repent of dead religion and enter INTO Christ by having your flesh CRUCIFIED....dead. So that you might be filled with His life.

Do it before its too late.

so I get this straight. This looks like one way. not many ways as you seemed to be saying?

And what is this dead religion your talking about? Are you claiming we are to be sinless?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

This is false. Unless Jesus be RAISED from the dead you are still dead in your sins...because you are still walking in your own power...religious as that might appear to be.

The salvation of Christ is to walk in His resurrection life...not claim a religion based on beliefs about what Jesus did.

Please let no one listen to this false gospel....

so our salvation is not based on the fact we are justified by faith in the work of Christ.

Its based on how we walk?

Jesus died for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD. No one can claim that for themselves. Jesus is the Lamb of God...not the Lamb of religious people Quite the contrary.

The apostle John said God so loved the WORLD he gave his only son...

Did Jesus not die for the sin of the world?

As you should. You need to repent from your dead religion onto the living God. Your hope lies in turning to the Lord in brokenness and humility.

No sense at all....unless through a religious scheme that justifies the flesh. You are polluting my thread with your propaganda.

What religion am I following? what am I trying to do to save myself?

 

[Episkopos]

Gibberish again Epi. You speak a double talk at least, and keep altering your remarks on the same subject matter. And either you purposely will not be clear and transparent on this/these subject(s) or you just do not know your subject that well and you keep winging it along the way.

You say that because you don't understand the plurality of the ways of God...which I am laying out for the spoiled ones here.

On another forum some would say...sometimes you look like a rightist and sometimes a leftist. When you are steering a straight course you need to adjust in both directions...otherwise you are going in a circle...which, Apak, you are doing.

There are no TWO levels of righteousness, one for you and the rest for the other misguided ones, on a lower plane.

I'm on the lower plane. I have been on the higher plane...that's why I know the distinction. You are reading your own fallen nature onto me.

And there is NO Godly righteousness of human origin or works outside of living in the Spirit and in Christ that is worth anything to God.

Untrue. God loves children...and all who are child-like. You could learn a lot from them.

He designed us for righteous works and how he decides to distribute it and accept it, not you.

I am a mirror here...exactly what I would tell you. :)

Your works of your own power and own will, as you have admitted ,many times, then must be all filthy rags.

Only if you claim to be righteous. A filthy person who admits they are filthy...is being honest...therefore able to speak rightly about his true condition. If that same person turns to God...then he can be forgiven and justified.

So you can be responsible all you want with your human righteousness and your maintenance of sin and salvation. Not for me, I have righteousness and its works because of the Spirit of God and the faith I have in it with the spirit of Christ growing within me everyday. All true believers have this as part of their precious given grace of God to salvation and with complete perfection in the 'next' life.

The afterlife...But do you realize that eternal life is right now? Those who believe INTO Christ HAVE eternal life...and walk as Jesus walked without sin. In Him is no sin. Don't settle for a dead religion...turn to God and surrender yourself to Him...OR..at least don't claim to be righteous...and definitely NOT as righteous as God.

And as for your obsession in your so-called 'higher walk,' this is an abomination to God, a prideful concept of yours.

I'm honoured that you think the higher walk is mine! But it is of Christ. Is Christ an abomination? Well, I leave that for others to figure out.

Have you no humility before God at all. You think you can play God and think you are on equal footing and have all his righteousness and goodness? No one can!

I'm not the one claiming to be as righteous as God.

The best you can do as I in the flesh is to continue to walk or live in Christ and become more Christlike and finish the race with an abundance of faith and love to share and spare; and become more mature in our holy character in Christ and of constant and consistent righteousness that shows how we have walked in the Spirit under this power of the Spirit of God through faith.

Being led by the Spirit is very good...as the Israelites did in the desert. But that is NOT the Promised Land.

..not by our own so-called 'free' will can we decide to go to the level of God and see his face, on his own highest plane.

It is a gift of grace through faith.

As as for more instruction of yours that you think I need from you, it all originates out of the depths of evil and wickedness.

Again, the upside down judgment...that shows your power comes from the flesh.

Who do you think you are fooling here Epi?. I've read your types of false doctrines before from other people. They do not change their stripes for anyone, as they continue to strut their stuff, all puffed up in arrogance and full of pride....

The truth is learned through humility. Anybody can learn your doctrines...as it doesn't upset your pride. God will judge. See, I have warned you.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You say that because you don't understand the plurality of the ways of God...which I am laying out for the spoiled ones here.

Here again, You seem to imply there is more than one way to God.

Can you explain all the ways to God?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Excellent except the reference to the Millenium. The nations ALL rebel against the Lord and His saints. The righteous don't come back to life until the GWT...the judgment of the nations. The 2nd resurrection.

The nations of them that are saved is in the next age.

Hmm…I’ve wondered about that at least a little. (Who are the ones in the millennium I mean.) It says that during that time, there will still be some death but that other men will outlive the work of their hands. Its description sounds pretty wonderful. But those who don’t obey and go to the feasts will be punished…

But…do you mean those who received a down payment of Gods Spirit but never walked in holiness are not in the first resurrection…?

 

[Episkopos]

Hmm…I’ve wondered about that at least a little. (Who are the ones in the millennium I mean.) It says that during that time, there will still be some death but that other men will outlive the work of their hands. Its description sounds pretty wonderful.

But…do you mean those who received a down payment of Gods Spirit but never walked in holiness are not in the first resurrection…?

I have no idea who the nations are in the Millenium. Is it the children that died too young...aborted fetuses? Is it new people born to women?

We are not told.

But the training is there for the saints to rule with Christ. Blessed is the one who has a part in the 1st resurrection.

 

[Episkopos]

Here again, You seem to imply there is more than one way to God.

Can you explain all the ways to God?

You don't understand spiritual things...so I would be casting my pearls at you so you can turn on me.

But for others who may be reading this...

There are 2 testaments in the bible....for those who have opened it. There is the Old Testament based on righteousness. And the New Testament based on holiness. There is the law and what we are to do...but without the power to fulfill it fully. And there is the POWER of God to help us be obedient to God and His laws....to do them perfectly...as Jesus did.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You don't understand spiritual things...so I would be casting my pearls at you so you can turn on me.

turn what on you? I just asked a simple question?

But for others who may be reading this...

There are 2 testaments in the bible....for those who have opened it. There is the Old Testament based on righteousness. And the New Testament based on holiness. There is the law and what we are to do...but without the power to fulfill it fully. And there is the POWER of God to help us be obedient to God and His laws....to do them perfectly...as Jesus did.

So your saying we are saved by the law and how good we are (holiness)? again, this appears to be one way Not many ways. so why would you say there is many ways??

 

[Episkopos]

turn what on you? I just asked a simple question?


So your saying we are saved by the law and how good we are (holiness)? again, this appears to be one way Not many ways. so why would you say there is many ways??

I wrote that part for those who are spiritual enough to understand it.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I have no idea who the nations are in the Millenium. Is it the children that died too young...aborted fetuses? Is it new people born to women?

We are not told.

But the training is there for the saints to rule with Christ. Blessed is the one who has a part in the 1st resurrection.

Well…during the tribulation, it says God cuts it short or else NO flesh would be alive…those living ones could go into the millennium if they didn’t receive the mark
. I have had it in my head for so long that all those who have received Gods Spirit would be in the millennium that I will have to try to see if I can find in scripture what you’ve said here.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I wrote that part for those who are spiritual enough to understand it. NOT for religious ideologues.

lol. Here we go again.. and you wonder why so many are against you.

You make statement, then when asked what you mean, you do this.

You can;t just come out and make a statement so everyone can understand, then you claim if they were spiritual they would

let me help you

You said there is multiple ways to God

so what are the ways?

1. we can be saved this way?
2. We can be saved this way?
3 We can be saved this way?

There I did most of the work ofr you. all you have to do is put your answer on each way to heaven

 

[Episkopos]

lol. Here we go again.. and you wonder why so many are against you.

You make statement, then when asked what you mean, you do this.

You can;t just come out and make a statement so everyone can understand, then you claim if they were spiritual they would

let me help you

You said there is multiple ways to God

so what are the ways?

1. we can be saved this way?
2. We can be saved this way?
3 We can be saved this way?

There I did most of the work ofr you. all you have to do is put your answer on each way to heaven

LOL You don't think I see through your ploy? You won't understand even if I wrote it 100 different ways.

That's the shame of it. But the shame is that you have read literally hundreds of my posts...and have no idea that what I'm saying is exactly true. You can only parody it by getting everything I say in a twist...the way you twist the bible.

Listen to the podcast...then comment on specifics...otherwise my time is too valuable to waste.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Well…during the tribulation, it says God cuts it short or else NO flesh would be alive…those living ones could go into the millennium if they didn’t receive the mark
. I have had it in my head for so long that all those who have received Gods Spirit would be in the millennium that I will have to try to see if I can find in scripture what you’ve said here.

I’m finding it hard to believe that the millennium will be such a wonderful and greatly improved place to be and where there will be no war but Jesus will settle any disputes that arise and where the feasts will be celebrated and where men will go to hear and learn from Jesus and then after a thousand years of rebuilding the population on earth, every single person there will turn against Jesus…

 

[APAK]

You say that because you don't understand the plurality of the ways of God...which I am laying out for the spoiled ones here.

On another forum some would say...sometimes you look like a rightist and sometimes a leftist. When you are steering a straight course you need to adjust in both directions...otherwise you are going in a circle...which, Apak, you are doing.


I'm on the lower plane. I have been on the higher plane...that's why I know the distinction. You are reading your own fallen nature onto me.


Untrue. God loves children...and all who are child-like. You could learn a lot from them.


I am a mirror here...exactly what I would tell you. :)


Only if you claim to be righteous. A filthy person who admits they are filthy...is being honest...therefore able to speak rightly about his true condition. If that same person turns to God...then he can be forgiven and justified.


The afterlife...But do you realize that eternal life is right now? Those who believe INTO Christ HAVE eternal life...and walk as Jesus walked without sin. In Him is no sin. Don't settle for a dead religion...turn to God and surrender yourself to Him...OR..at least don't claim to be righteous...and definitely NOT as righteous as God.


I'm honoured that you think the higher walk is mine! But it is of Christ. Is Christ an abomination? Well, I leave that for others to figure out.


I'm not the one claiming to be as righteous as God.




Being led by the Spirit is very good...as the Israelites did in the desert. But that is NOT the Promised Land.


It is a gift of grace through faith.


Again, the upside down judgment...that shows your power comes from the flesh.

The truth is learned through humility. Anybody can learn your doctrines...as it doesn't upset your pride. God will judge. See, I have warned you.

I do not believe what you say anymore, having listened to you for several years now when you advertised as your headliner 'walking in/into Christ.' That we must go into Christ. And even after asking you about it, and is this self-works, as it was strange to me, you still could not give me a clear, decisive and understandable answer, and that supported scripture where I could confirm and then grasp. You have not changed at all.

And I do know we are saved and have eternal life today as a believer, eventhough I said we are perfected in the next life, meaning shedding the flesh and into immortal bodies. Although coming from you with your definition of eternal life today, the devil is definitely in your details. And you will keep it that way. Who knows what you really mean by being saved today and possessing eternal life.

This is just another example as to why I at least cannot trust your words. I was concerned a few years back that you were being deliberately vague and now my suspicions are coming true. You cannot or will not communicate clearly your position on critical matters concerning salvation and the rest, and as if you must keep it hazy and cryptic.

 

[Episkopos]

I do not believe what you say anymore, having listened to you for several years now when you advertised as your headliner 'walking in/into Christ.' That we must go into Christ. And even after asking you about it, and is this self-works, as it was strange to me, you still could not give me a clear, decisive and understandable answer, and that supported scripture where I could confirm and then grasp. You have not changed at all.

You have not been transformed at all. I have explained the higher walk countless times. But it has to be spiritually discerned. The bible speaks of this over and over again...AND it is prophesied MANY times in the OT. It's the real deal. Am I the only one that can show you? Do you not have a bible? Do you not have access to the Lord? Let Him show you. Go ask Him...to show you what Jesus walked in...and the early believers. Ask Him. You have not because you ask not.

And I do know we are saved and have eternal life today as a believer, eventhough I said we are perfected in the next life,

This is wrong...we are perfected in THIS life or not at all. You may be being influenced by the religious concept of "purgatory"

if people knew what the gospel is..they would be beating down the door to the kingdom...just like Jesus said. Taking it by storm.

meaning shedding the flesh and into immortal bodies.

That is the inheritance...not the perfection. The perfection is to be in Christ....He is our perfection. You can enter INTO Christ right now! Put on Christ. Put on the New Man. Put on the armour of light. All of these are in the higher walk in the Spirit...in Zion...the kingdom realm. Seek that life and walk.

Although coming from you with your definition of eternal life today, the devil is definitely in your details. And you will keep it that way. Who knows what you really mean by being saved today and possessing eternal life.

Eternal life is already present...otherwise it isn't eternal. Jesus said...ALL who believe into Me HAVE eternal life AND I will raise them up on the last day (inheritance).

This is just another example as to why I at least cannot trust your words. I was concerned a few years back that you were being deliberately vague and now my suspicions are coming true. You cannot or will not communicate clearly your position on critical matters concerning salvation and the rest, and as if you must keep it hazy and cryptic.

I am being as clear as I can be. I can't speak too much about what I have seen and know. First, no one would believe me. And the details are intimate...so that no man can express them.
But the bible is clear enough. And I am saying the same thing..because I have experienced the same thing we read about in the bible.

 

[APAK]

You have not been transformed at all. I have explained the higher walk countless times. But it has to be spiritually discerned. The bible speaks of this over and over again...AND it is prophesied MANY times in the OT. It's the real deal. Am I the only one that can show you? Do you not have a bible? Do you not have access to the Lord? Let Him show you. Go ask Him...to show you what Jesus walked in...and the early believers. Ask Him. You have not because you ask not.


This is wrong...we are perfected in THIS life or not at all. You may be being influenced by the religious concept of "purgatory"

if people knew what the gospel is..they would be beating down the door to the kingdom...just like Jesus said. Taking it by storm.


That is the inheritance...not the perfection. The perfection is to be in Christ....He is our perfection. You can enter INTO Christ right now! Put on Christ. Put on the New Man. Put on the armour of light. All of these are in the higher walk in the Spirit...in Zion...the kingdom realm. Seek that life and walk.


Eternal life is already present...otherwise it isn't eternal. Jesus said...ALL who believe into Me HAVE eternal life AND I will raise them up on the last day (inheritance).

I am being as clear as I can be. I can't speak too much about what I have seen and know. First, no one would believe me. And the details are intimate...so that no man can express them.
But the bible is clear enough. And I am saying the same thing..because I have experienced the same thing we read about in the bible.

Scripture says you are in err Epi, concerning one of your main premises concerning your righteousness of self and its perfection today.

You know there are two types of righteousness for a genuine believer? The imputed type, given to us automatically when we are justified in Christ, and its perfect in faith in him. And then there is the imparted type also by faith that we progressively work on in this life, as Paul speaks of this one in this scripture; and as I've been saying to you in some many varied words and expressions. Why won't you listen to even scripture, is beyond me?

(Php 3:8) Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ
(Php 3:9) and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—
(Php 3:10) that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death,
(Php 3:11) that by any means possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead.
(Php 3:12) Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own.

And the reason you gave why I support this scripture of Paul, that you believe is in err concerning your immediate perfection, is what you just said about me ...'You may be being influenced by the religious concept of "purgatory"'. What a shame you have resort to such degrading and arrogant language as you think of yourself with much pride and arrogance.

You are in over your head on these matter of scripture and the heart and you need to admit it now, sooner that later.