What does it mean to be born again?

[stunnedbygrace]

I got a chuckle because my mind went comedic…
What words did the worst plan ever begin with? Answer: Give me your earrings…

 

[Laurina]

Who is the enemy in focus here @Laurina ?

The enemy is anything that gets in the way with oneness with God and love for our fellow man.

 

[Waiting on him]

I got a chuckle because my mind went comedic…
What words did the worst plan ever begin with? Answer: Give me your earrings…

Acts 7:43 KJV
[43] Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

 

[Waiting on him]

The enemy is anything that gets in the way with oneness with God and love for our fellow man.

I am my greatest foe!

 

[Johann]

I am my greatest foe!

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/523191681726823841/

 

[Waiting on him]

So simple put to be born again is to be born of the Spirit of God….. which is love!

 

[Waiting on him]

I’m gonna go weep now, and plead for His help!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

So we HAVE started a “Hated for speaking the Truth” club! I’m disappointed I was not invited lol.

Now that was funny.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Just a reminder of Jesus' words....as you are a follower of Him. Hope this helps, Since you treat and see Episkopos as your enemy.

12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I am speaking the truth. A religious spirit is tormented by the truth. Those who resist the truth will be rejected by the Lord...so it's better to get that sorted out now. I'm willing to be abused by carnal believers in order to help them see them past their own flesh.

This is no judgment on my part. I'm always extending a helping hand ONCE the truth is received.

Do you understand what's at play here? Do you realize your questioning me will fill the outer man with more impetus to resist the truth. Do you care for the souls of others...or do you just want to be molly-coddled like so many here.

The war is between the Spirit and the flesh...and the confusion to see one as the other.

so its ok for you to abuse others

But it is not ok for them to do it to you.

The war is between you and them. not between the flesh and the spirit..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yes. You got it. I am a mirror. And I just point out what the person is seeing...why it is so...and how to escape it. I'm harmless....just trying to help my fellow believers the way I would want to be treated...with a little patience and humour...but speaking truthfully.

instead of being a mirror. it may help for you to look in the mirror at yourself.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

What you are saying is that you will not follow all my threads and hurl abuse and all manner of evil on me for simply speaking the truth?

Oh. OK! ;)

I think he’s saying even BETTER than that. He’s saying he won’t hurl abuse at you even if he thinks you might NOT be speaking what he sees as true. So he is doing righteousness and treating you the way he himself would like to be treated.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The enemy is anything that gets in the way with oneness with God and love for our fellow man.

so would it be @Episkopos who admittedly mocks people who do not agree with him

or would it be those of us who call him out for mocking people..

 

[Lizbeth]

You'd have to be able to correctly divide the word to see the difference between what gets somebody cut off from God for eternity and what is practical and avoids difficulties in this life. And you never admitted that Hebrews 3 and 4 are about unbelieving believers...and God's wrath being directed at God's own people. If you could TRY to be honest....


What it doesn't say is that believers who marry unbelievers are under God's wrath. Do you understand that, at least? It is not very practicable to be unequally yoked. Does that mean if a believer marries an unbeliever that he/she is under God's wrath? Not at all. We see Hosea being directed towards marrying a harlot. Is Hosea under God's wrath? I hope you can see that he is not.

So you need to learn how to divide the words of God in right manner.

Hope this helps!

You made the point that unbelievers in the bible is always referring to God's people. I showed (proved) with the example of 2 Cor 10 that this is not always the case. Will you be honest and acknowledge that?

Hebrews is speaking first to the Jews (then to the Gentiles). So yes in that case the unbelieving spoken of in those verses in Hebrews were God's people. But this is not always the case in scripture and that is the point I was making.

2 Corinthians 10 is not speaking specifically about marriage but about not being yoked with unbelievers in a general sense, which principle might be applied to marriage (though it's debatable to me whether it's necessarily a carved in stone rule). However, an unbelieving marriage partner is sanctified by the believing spouse IN THIS LIFE, but not for eternity unless they receive Christ. Marriage doesn't extend beyond this life into eternity, as Jesus taught.

 

[Waiting on him]

that was weird, He said it’s gonna be okay, that Goliath was David’s outer man.

 

[Episkopos]

You made the point that unbelievers in the bible is always referring to God's people. I showed (proved) with the example of 2 Cor 10 that this is not always the case. Will you be honest and acknowledge that?

After you acknowledge that I was talking about the wrath of God.

Hebrews is speaking first to the Jews (then to the Gentiles). So yes in that case the unbelieving spoken of in those verses in Hebrews were God's people. But this is not always the case in scripture and that is the point I was making.

But that's not our concern. You do realize that we are not to be concerned with the judgment of unbelievers?

2 Corinthians 10 is not speaking specifically about marriage but about not being yoked with unbelievers in a general sense, which principle might be applied to marriage (though it's debatable to me whether it's necessarily a carved in stone rule). However, an unbelieving marriage partner is sanctified by the believing spouse IN THIS LIFE, but not for eternity unless they receive Christ. Marriage doesn't extend beyond this life into eternity, as Jesus taught.

Exactly my point. But many Christians WILL experience the wrath of God. Are you interested?

 

[Episkopos]

so would it be @Episkopos who admittedly mocks people who do not agree with him

or would it be those of us who call him out for mocking people..

What I said was...I mock people that mock God. So if you mock God....then I will mock you.

Notice what God says..

"He that sits in the heavens shall laugh: The Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, And vex them in his sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion." Ps. 2

 

[Episkopos]

so its ok for you to abuse others

But it is not ok for them to do it to you.

The war is between you and them. not between the flesh and the spirit..

The truth is being abused. I speak the truth...and then I get attacked for it...because the flesh gets uncomfortable around the Spirit of truth.

It is between the Spirit and the flesh....and you are speaking by the power of the flesh..which you neither perceive nor care to understand.

 

[Lizbeth]

After you acknowledge that I was talking about the wrath of God.


I don't know if it was wrath or judgment that came upon the Israelites...but notice that the faithful few were spared.

I don't know if it was wrath or judgment/chastisement that came upon the Israelites...but notice that the faithful few were spared. There is another way of looking at that part of the story.....that flesh cannot enter the kingdom and so the Israelites had to die to their flesh nature before they could enter (depicted by their children entering)....becoming as a little child in order to enter.

But that's not our concern. You do realize that we are not to be concerned with the judgment of unbelievers?

Oh yes we certainly are to be concerned with it if we have any love and concern for those who are lost!

Exactly my point. But many Christians WILL experience the wrath of God. Are you interested?

Well many call themselves Christians. Strictly speaking it is Mystery Babylon and her followers that experiences the wrath, first the Jewish (70 AD) then the mostly Gentile manifestation of it in future when the beast turns on her. The faithful remnant of TRUE Christians will be spared (Jew & Gentile).

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Oh yes we certainly are to be concerned with it if we have any love and concern for those who are lost!

He meant we aren’t to judge them. Obviously we have concern for all men.
sorry to speak for you what you meant epi, but I did understand you. I understood you because I WASNT looking for something with which to accuse you. And also because I know you and what you teach.