Not at all--he is introducing a heteros Besuroh Tovoh--and don't want to stand corrected at all--despite the numerous warnings from other members.
J.
What does it mean to be born again?
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J.
I believe that is is our mission and duty as Christians to, for the rest of our lives, stomp out any selfish desires that remain within our carnal flesh, yes - and learn to become more and more like Christ as we travel the pilgrims road.
Who do you think??
I'm bringing attention to YOUR behaviour! ...it doesn't reflect who you claim to follow. What is in your heart?? love---hate....you need to consider that.
…I suddenly feel like at least one brother gets me…
I believe in God's mercy and love for humankind. I am against certain religious types who decide who is saved and who isn't. That is the province of the Pharisees...then as well as now.
People will fail the test of mercy and love...who look to justify themselves based on their beliefs. And those religious posturers HATE being exposed to the truth.
The Good News of Christ is not about condemning others who are not as indoctrinated into falsehoods as they are. It's an invitation into the eternal reality and eternal consciousness of resurrection life.
Oooh, no…it’s a comedic fail if no one understands and you have to explain the joke.
I think the fail is on more than one level here...
Waiting on him
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Maybe it’s just your arrogance and pious attitude that turns them off?
If I wasn't met with so much dishonesty, hatred and religious contempt...I would speak with more seriousness. But I can't take seriously what is obviously a carnal religious mind posing as something greater than it is. Children play acting invite play. Only a fool would try explaining in all seriousness things that are far beyond the grasp of the carnally minded.
My responses are more for others who visit the thread...to keep them from being distracted by the flesh....presented by the many pretenders who are magnetically attracted to the rebukes they so richly deserve.
You literally just came back into his thread with the SOLE purpose of tearing this man down. You had nothing valuable to say, nothing good, nothing lovely. Just your ugly heart motive on full display without even so much as a blush.
I am not chasing after them to torment them before their time...they come to get rebukes to their outer man from me (and you). Its driven by a desire to overcome their own flesh...but since they have no strength, courage or faith, to face up to their own flesh... they come to me to do it for them!
...call it a ministry.
Waiting on him
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Even so, the approach you use isn’t seen in any of the participants of the New Testament.
Maybe try a different approach?
Think you misunderstand me--there's no hatred in my heart toward anyone--
Correcting a BROTHER
Galatians 6:1 ESV / 3,124 helpful votes
Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted.
Matthew 18:15-17 ESV / 2,608 helpful votes
“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
Matthew 18:15 ESV / 1,878 helpful votes
“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother.
1 Corinthians 5:1-13 ESV / 1,481 helpful votes
It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans, for a man has his father's wife. And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you. For though absent in body, I am present in spirit; and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment on the one who did such a thing. When you are assembled in the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord. ...
James 5:19 ESV / 1,478 helpful votes
My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back,
2 Thessalonians 3:15 ESV / 1,468 helpful votes
Do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.
Titus 3:10-11 ESV / 1,467 helpful votes
As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.
1 Timothy 5:20 ESV / 1,464 helpful votes
As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.
Titus 3:10 ESV / 1,406 helpful votes
As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him,
Romans 16:17 ESV / 1,382 helpful votes
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them.
2 Timothy 4:2 ESV / 1,310 helpful votes
Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 ESV / 1,185 helpful votes
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
James 5:19-20 ESV / 1,184 helpful votes
My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.
Romans 14:1-23 ESV / 929 helpful votes
As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. ...
Ezekiel 33:7-12 ESV / 929 helpful votes
“So you, son of man, I have made a watchman for the house of Israel. Whenever you hear a word from my mouth, you shall give them warning from me. If I say to the wicked, O wicked one, you shall surely die, and you do not speak to warn the wicked to turn from his way, that wicked person shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand. But if you warn the wicked to turn from his way, and he does not turn from his way, that person shall die in his iniquity, but you will have delivered your soul. “And you, son of man, say to the house of Israel, Thus have you said: ‘Surely our transgressions and our sins are upon us, and we rot away because of them. How then can we live?’ Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel? ...
Luke 17:3-4 ESV / 913 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
Pay attention to yourselves! If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him, and if he sins against you seven times in the day, and turns to you seven times, saying, ‘I repent,’ you must forgive him.”
Matthew 7:1 ESV / 902 helpful votes
“Judge not, that you be not judged.
Acts 20:28 ESV / 897 helpful votes
Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.
2 Timothy 3:16 ESV / 828 helpful votes
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness...
Anyways, notice you are new here, welcome to the Forum and may you be edified in Yeshua HaMashiach, sealed with the Ruach HaKodesh, grounded and rooted in Him.
I am not your enemy, even if you might think so.
Read carefully the scriptures posted on how to correct an erring BROTHER in Christ
Johann.
Waiting on him
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See, here in this comment you make yourself Jesus and them/us legion. You have to admit that’s pretty arrogant?I am not chasing after them to torment them before their time...they come to get rebukes to their outer man from me (and you). Its driven by a desire to overcome their own flesh...but since they have no strength, courage or faith, to face up to their own flesh... they come to me to do it for them!
...call it a ministry.
Exactly. look at the approach of those who need to go to the cross. Consider their cry for help. Do my videos come across to you as arrogant and pious? or is it the responses to the truth I teach such?
I have a sense of humour. I don't get flustered easily...and I can play with the unserious.
My maxim is...preach the gospel always and if necessary use humour. :)
If you can be serious and honest with me...then I will be such back.
People who know me see me as a kind of mirror that reflects their own spiritual condition back onto them. In all seriousness, that's a discerning gift I have. It's easily seen by the reactions to what I post on this forum. And it works in real life too.
And this is a good thing. The Lord said...with the pure I am pure, with the upright I am upright, but with the froward I am froward. (Ps 18)
Eternally Grateful
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Calling someone out for doing what they do to others in love so they can hopefully see their own sin is what Jesus be Paul both did
We have a choice
We can aid and ignore what one person is doing. Or call them out when they call someone else out for doing what they do
I have no enemy. No one can touch me I am Christ”s and inspire if his false gospel. All we can do is let others know. I have known epi for many years in many chat rooms. He lays does the same
He walked into this with his eyes closed?--pretty arrogant indeed.
J.
I am speaking the truth. A religious spirit is tormented by the truth. Those who resist the truth will be rejected by the Lord...so it's better to get that sorted out now. I'm willing to be abused by carnal believers in order to help them see them past their own flesh.
This is no judgment on my part. I'm always extending a helping hand ONCE the truth is received.
Do you understand what's at play here? Do you realize your questioning me will fill the outer man with more impetus to resist the truth. Do you care for the souls of others...or do you just want to be molly-coddled like so many here.
The war is between the Spirit and the flesh...and the confusion to see one as the other.
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