who is the false prophet in revelation
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Davy
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It will be Satan himself.
Per the end of Revelation 19, both the 'beast' and the 'false prophet' are cast into the "lake of fire".
Problem: no flesh man is judged and sentenced to perish in the "lake of fire" until God's Great White Throne Judgment at the end of Christ's future "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20.
This has to mean then, that the 'false prophet' and 'beast' are ROLES that the Antichrist-false-Messiah will play, like characters in a play.
Per the end of Revelation 19, both the 'beast' and the 'false prophet' are cast into the "lake of fire".
Problem: no flesh man is judged and sentenced to perish in the "lake of fire" until God's Great White Throne Judgment at the end of Christ's future "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20.
This has to mean then, that the 'false prophet' and 'beast' are ROLES that the Antichrist-false-Messiah will play, like characters in a play.
BARNEY BRIGHT
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The false prophet is a newcomer in name only. Previously, we were shown a wild beast with two horns like a lamb that performed great signs before the seven-headed wild beast. This deceptive creature acted like a prophet for that wild beast. It promoted worship of the wild beast, even causing an image to be built to it. (Revelation 13:11-14) This wild beast with two horns like a lamb must be the same as “the false prophet” mentioned here. Confirming this, we read later that the false prophet, like the symbolic wild beast with two horns, “performed in front of [the seven-headed wild beast] the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image.”(Revelation 19:20)
The wild beast that has two horns, indicates a partnership of two political powers. And it is described as coming out of the earth, not out of the sea. So, it comes out of Satan’s already established earthly system of things. It's a world power, already existing, that takes on a significant role during the Lord’s day.
This two horned beast is the Anglo-American World Power, which is two political powers working together, the united states and Great Britain. This is the false prophet. So the false prophet is the same as the seventh head of the first wild beast but in a special role! Isolating it in the vision as a separate wild beast helps us to see more clearly how it acts independently on the world stage. This figurative two-horned wild beast is made up of two coexisting, independent, but cooperating political powers. Its two horns “like a lamb” suggest that it makes itself out to be mild and inoffensive, with an enlightened form of government to which all the world should turn. But it speaks “as a dragon” in that it uses pressure and threats and even outright violence wherever its version of rulership is not accepted. It has not encouraged submission to God’s Kingdom under the rule of the Lamb of God but, rather, to the interests of Satan, the great dragon. It has promoted nationalistic divisions and hatreds that add up to worshipping the first wild beast.
This two-horned wild beast performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven. (Compare Matthew 7:21-23) This latter sign reminds us of Elijah, the ancient prophet of God who engaged in a contest with the prophets of Baal. When he successfully called down fire from heaven in the name of Jehovah, it proved beyond doubt that he was a true prophet and that the Baal prophets were false. (1 Kings 18:21-40) Like those Baal prophets, the two-horned wild beast feels that it has adequate credentials as a prophet. (Revelation 13:14, 15; 19:20) It claims to have vanquished the forces of evil in two world wars and was victorious over so-called godless Communism! Many, indeed, view the modern counterpart of the two-horned wild beast as a guardian of liberty and a font of material good things.
ScottA
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Davy
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Like I said, the "false prophet" is NOT ANY flesh born man, simply because NO flesh-born man is judged and sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire" yet today. ONLY... Satan and his angels so far have already been judged and sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire".
The casting into the future "lake of fire" at the end of Christ's future "thousand years" reign is called the "second death". There is NO SECOND DEATH during this present world.
Earburner
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You are very close in describing the two beasts and the image in Rev.. More so than I can say than most Christians.
The discerning factors to know, are the descriptions of all three of the characters that are on the world stage now.
1. Beast with 10 horns is Europe
2. Beast like a lamb with 2 horns is the US.
3. Image to the Beast with 10H is the UN.
1. Roman Empire dispersed into becoming Europe. It's military might today is NATO. Out from that, will be 10H appointed for it's defense, just before the Lord physically appears from Heaven in His Immortality.
2. The the US is of youth and is THE FALSE PROPHET, having KNUBS for horns, as that of a young male lamb. Those knubs are the two forms of government that share authority within the 2H Beast.
3. The Image of/to the beast, is made by the people of the world. Since 1945 the 2HB has been calling to and persuading the people of the world to unify under the Image. The 2HB gives life to the Image, being that of political life for world governance.
By the military and economic power of the 2HB, it makes military fire come down from heaven/atmosphere, calling out economic sanctions against all who will not comply (worship the Image).
4. It is the Image, the UN that CAUSES all people to receive the mark of the 10H Beast.
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BARNEY BRIGHT
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BARNEY BRIGHT
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PART 2 of reply to Earburner
Does the number of toes of the image mean anything? In other visions, Daniel mentions specific numbers. For example, many of the beasts had a specific number of horns. Those numbers are important. But Daniel does not mention how many toes the image has. So it seems that the number of toes is not important, just as the number of arms, hands, fingers, legs, or feet the image had is not important. But Daniel specifically says that the toes are made of iron and clay. From what he says, we understand that the Anglo-American World Power will be the world power when the “stone,” which means God’s Kingdom, hits the feet of the image. (Daniel 2:45).
The visions that Jesus gave to John show that even though the Anglo-American World Power is made of iron mixed with clay, it was going to do something important during the last days. John saw a wild beast that had two horns and that spoke like a dragon. What does this strange beast mean? Because it has two horns, it means two governments that are partners. This beast also means the Anglo-American World Power, but now it does something special.(Revelation 13:11-15).
The beast with two horns “tells” people to make an image of the wild beast with seven heads. John said that this image of the wild beast would appear, then disappear, and then appear again. This is what happened to an organization that appeared after World War I. Britain and the United States urged other nations to join this organization. It was supposed to unite the nations and speak for them.This organization was called the League of Nations. The League of Nations disappeared when World War II started. During that war, God’s people said that according to the prophecy in Revelation, this organization would appear again. That is exactly what happened, and now the organization is called the United Nations. (Revelation 17:8)
John described the image of the wild beast with seven heads as “an eighth king.” Why did he call it a “king”? It does not appear as an eighth head on the wild beast. It is only an image of that beast. The power of this image comes from the nations that are members of the United Nations, especially from the Anglo-American World Power. (Revelation 17:10, 11) So John calls this image a “king” because it receives authority to do something that will affect the whole world.
John also described a harlot, or prostitute, who rides upon a scarlet-colored wild beast. This beast is the same as the image of the wild beast with seven heads. The harlot is called “Babylon the Great.” (Revelation 17:1-6) This harlot means all false religions. The religions of Christendom are surely part of Babylon the Great. False religions have publicly supported the image of the beast, that is, the League of Nations and the United Nations, and they have tried to direct these organizations.
Babylon the Great is described as sitting on “waters.” The waters mean the people who support her. But during the Lord’s day, people have not supported her as much as they did in the past. It is as if the waters have “dried up.” (Revelation 16:12; 17:15) For example, when the image of the beast first appeared, the religions of Christendom had a lot of power in most Western countries. But now, many people no longer respect these religions and their ministers. Many even believe that religion is the cause of the problems in the world. Others say publicly that the world should get rid of all religions.
False religion will not lose its power gradually and then disappear. The harlot will continue to be powerful and try to make kings do whatever she wants. But soon God will “put it into their hearts to carry out his thought.”
(Revelation 17:16, 17). YHWH God will cause the governments of Satan’s system, as represented by the United Nations, to attack false religion. The harlot will no longer be able to control these governments, and she will lose all her riches. Twenty or thirty years ago, most people thought religion would always be respected and powerful. Now this is starting to change. But the harlot will not lose her power gradually. She will be destroyed suddenly. (Revelation 18:7, 8, 15-19).
After false religion is destroyed, the wild beast, Satan’s governments on earth, will attack God’s Kingdom. The kings of the earth will not be able to attack God’s Kingdom in heaven, so they will try to fight against those on earth who support it. This results in a final battle with God. (Revelation 16:13-16; 17:12-14) Daniel told us something about that final battle. (Daniel 2:44) The wild beast mentioned at Revelation 13:1, its image, and the wild beast with two horns will be destroyed.
We are living during the time of the seventh head of the beast of Revelation chapter 13. There will be no new heads on this beast before it is destroyed. The Anglo-American World Power will be the world power when false religion is destroyed. The prophecies of Daniel and John have come true exactly as they were written. We can be sure that soon false religion will be destroyed and that the battle of Armageddon will come. God has told us exactly what will happen. But will we obey the warnings in these prophecies? (2 Peter 1:19) We need to obey YHWH God right now and support his Kingdom. (Revelation 14:6, 7)
Does the number of toes of the image mean anything? In other visions, Daniel mentions specific numbers. For example, many of the beasts had a specific number of horns. Those numbers are important. But Daniel does not mention how many toes the image has. So it seems that the number of toes is not important, just as the number of arms, hands, fingers, legs, or feet the image had is not important. But Daniel specifically says that the toes are made of iron and clay. From what he says, we understand that the Anglo-American World Power will be the world power when the “stone,” which means God’s Kingdom, hits the feet of the image. (Daniel 2:45).
The visions that Jesus gave to John show that even though the Anglo-American World Power is made of iron mixed with clay, it was going to do something important during the last days. John saw a wild beast that had two horns and that spoke like a dragon. What does this strange beast mean? Because it has two horns, it means two governments that are partners. This beast also means the Anglo-American World Power, but now it does something special.(Revelation 13:11-15).
The beast with two horns “tells” people to make an image of the wild beast with seven heads. John said that this image of the wild beast would appear, then disappear, and then appear again. This is what happened to an organization that appeared after World War I. Britain and the United States urged other nations to join this organization. It was supposed to unite the nations and speak for them.This organization was called the League of Nations. The League of Nations disappeared when World War II started. During that war, God’s people said that according to the prophecy in Revelation, this organization would appear again. That is exactly what happened, and now the organization is called the United Nations. (Revelation 17:8)
John described the image of the wild beast with seven heads as “an eighth king.” Why did he call it a “king”? It does not appear as an eighth head on the wild beast. It is only an image of that beast. The power of this image comes from the nations that are members of the United Nations, especially from the Anglo-American World Power. (Revelation 17:10, 11) So John calls this image a “king” because it receives authority to do something that will affect the whole world.
John also described a harlot, or prostitute, who rides upon a scarlet-colored wild beast. This beast is the same as the image of the wild beast with seven heads. The harlot is called “Babylon the Great.” (Revelation 17:1-6) This harlot means all false religions. The religions of Christendom are surely part of Babylon the Great. False religions have publicly supported the image of the beast, that is, the League of Nations and the United Nations, and they have tried to direct these organizations.
Babylon the Great is described as sitting on “waters.” The waters mean the people who support her. But during the Lord’s day, people have not supported her as much as they did in the past. It is as if the waters have “dried up.” (Revelation 16:12; 17:15) For example, when the image of the beast first appeared, the religions of Christendom had a lot of power in most Western countries. But now, many people no longer respect these religions and their ministers. Many even believe that religion is the cause of the problems in the world. Others say publicly that the world should get rid of all religions.
False religion will not lose its power gradually and then disappear. The harlot will continue to be powerful and try to make kings do whatever she wants. But soon God will “put it into their hearts to carry out his thought.”
(Revelation 17:16, 17). YHWH God will cause the governments of Satan’s system, as represented by the United Nations, to attack false religion. The harlot will no longer be able to control these governments, and she will lose all her riches. Twenty or thirty years ago, most people thought religion would always be respected and powerful. Now this is starting to change. But the harlot will not lose her power gradually. She will be destroyed suddenly. (Revelation 18:7, 8, 15-19).
After false religion is destroyed, the wild beast, Satan’s governments on earth, will attack God’s Kingdom. The kings of the earth will not be able to attack God’s Kingdom in heaven, so they will try to fight against those on earth who support it. This results in a final battle with God. (Revelation 16:13-16; 17:12-14) Daniel told us something about that final battle. (Daniel 2:44) The wild beast mentioned at Revelation 13:1, its image, and the wild beast with two horns will be destroyed.
We are living during the time of the seventh head of the beast of Revelation chapter 13. There will be no new heads on this beast before it is destroyed. The Anglo-American World Power will be the world power when false religion is destroyed. The prophecies of Daniel and John have come true exactly as they were written. We can be sure that soon false religion will be destroyed and that the battle of Armageddon will come. God has told us exactly what will happen. But will we obey the warnings in these prophecies? (2 Peter 1:19) We need to obey YHWH God right now and support his Kingdom. (Revelation 14:6, 7)
Earburner
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KJV Rev. 13
[11] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[12] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
The first beast with 10H was in existence long before the 2H lamb beast rose to power. Today we know it as Europe, which is where the Roman Empire (iron) dispersed to.
The two horns of a lamb are not the two full grown horns of a sheep! Lambs have "horn buds", which denotes youth.
John saw a nation of youth, in comparison to the mature age of Europe.
"Lambs can have horns
Lambs can have horns as long as it got the horned gene from both parents. The horns will start to grow after the lamb is born, starting from slightly raised bumps on the skull called “horn buds”.Horns on female lambs will be smaller than the horns on a ram lamb of the same age."
In Daniel, we have a similarity of the 2nd Beast shown as a Ram having two mature horns, whereby one horn was higher than the other, in which one came later than the other. Ultimately, together they were two separate governments, working together as one, being that of the Medes and the Persians, aka the Persian Empire. Dan 8:3-4.
However, in the 2HB of Rev., both youthful horns appear equal in size and in power, having the same authority. Usually balanced out in the different branches of it's governing power. We know of them as being the Republican and Democratic parties.
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BARNEY BRIGHT
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The Beast with 10 horns began with the Empire of Egypt, then Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece. The sixth world power was Rome, which was still ruling when John received the revelation. Afterwards in our time the seventh head began which is the Anglo-American Empire. The Anglo American Empire is two polital governments working together, the U.S. and Great Britain. The scriptures in Revelation shows that this Beast, the one with the seven heads and ten horns came out of the sea. The sea represents wicked people of earth. We know this because Isaiah likened the wicked people of earth, to the masses alienated from God, to “the sea that is being tossed, when it is unable to calm down, the waters of which keep tossing up seaweed and mire.” (Isaiah 57:20) So Satan who is the original serpent (Revelation 12:9) started bringing this seven headed Beast into existence thousands if years ago starting with the nation of Egypt, then Satan used Assyria, Babylon, the media Persia Empire, Greece, then Rome and last the Anglo-American Empire. All these Empires had some negative dealings with God's true servants. This Anglo- American Empire is the Empire Satan uses to bring the image of the Beast into existence.
So Satan concerning this wild beast with the seven heads and ten horns, began to caused the emergence of this wild Beast out of the sea of turbulent humanity away back in the days of Nimrod (about the 21st century B.C.E.), when a post-Flood system of things, opposed to YHWH God, first manifested itself. (Genesis 10:8-12; 11:1-9)
The Anglo-American world power being described as a lamb with 2 horns is a good description of democracy. This Beast, the lamb with 2 horns “performs great signs, even making fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.” That is exactly what happened during World War II. The two atomic bombs that played a decisive role in ending that war in the Pacific were the results of a joint effort by British and American scientists. The Anglo-American World Power, the Beast like a lamb with 2 horns, in effect, made “fire come down out of heaven to the earth.”
All this shows that today we're living in the last days the time of the mark of the beast and have been living during that time for over a hundred years now. People are looking for that mark not knowing we're living in that time, where people are already accepting that mark. Its not a computer chip or tattoo. It's what the image of the beast, the United Nations represents. Human governments have put their trust in this human organization, the United Nations to eliminate desease, homelessness, war, hunger, etc something that only God's Kingdom can do. So the Anglo-American Empire the lamb with two horns has put the UNITED NATIONS in a holy place where it does not belong. The protestant and Catholic Churches have given this United Nations their blessing and have said if the United Nations doesn't accomplish it's goals then humanity is lost. The protestant and Catholic Churches have put their faith in a human organization, not in God's Kingdom.
Earburner
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I have a far different understanding of the seven "heads".
According to the vision given to Daniel, of the four beasts outlined, the first head is Babylon-1, then Persia-1, Greece- 4. Roman-1, totalling 7
Dan. 7:1-8.
In Rev. 13:1-3 we see the make up of the 10H Beast (Roman) in it's conglomorate form, having seven heads. The six heads are the defeated previous empires before it, but then became absorbed within it. The seventh head was the Roman empire itself.
Babylon-1
Persia- 1
Grecian- 4
Roman- 1
As for the counting of the "heads", many neglect to factor in the four heads of the Grecian empire, being in "the latter time of the their kingdom" (Grecian). Dan. 7:6, Dan. 8:22-23.
I will stop there for now, being the beginning of the Roman Empire. What all follows after that is it's split into the eastern and western empires, and the dispersing of it into Europe. Out of Europe there will be appointed 10 horns (still future), just before the Lord returns in all His Immortal Glory.
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BARNEY BRIGHT
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I understand people will choose to believe what they choose to believe. So you and I will just have to agree to disagree.
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Earburner
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Though we have a few things at odds between us, I believe that we have more in common than we do with most Christians.
Most do not see the UN for what it really is.
I think that by the dream of the "metallic statue" given to Nebuchadnezzar, whereby God reveals it through Daniel, and then the angel provides much for interpretation throughout the book of Daniel, it is of primal importance to guide us through the overall prophetic understanding of God's words by His foreknowledge.
Of course, none of us have it perfect, because we can only "know in part".
1 Cor. 13
[9] For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
[12] For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
Thanks for the discussion:)
Earburner
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Ronald Nolette
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Well it may be you, or it may not. You really need to learn how to write in intelligent english.
But the false prophet will bed a religious leader who acts as the counterfeit holy spirit and leads the world in worship of the false messiah who is commonly called the antichrist.
Ziggy
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Sometimes I see the book of Revelation in reverse or upside down.
If you were living in Jerusalem during this time of writing you would be repeating the same thing the Pharisees accused Jesus of.
The two horns would be Judaism and Christianity rising up against the worldly establishment.
Of course they accused Jesus of being a false prophet. A man no different than a beast. They even called him the Devil himself.
He could do signs and wonders and even make fire fall from the sky. Like manna. A rebuke.
The violence he spoke was repentence and humility. To them it was blasphemy. They were already perfect in their own eyes.
That book in my opinion has dual meanings determined by how one hears it.
Even today both Jews and Christians are beginning to rise above the darkness a little. It is still weak. Pray for faith and strength.
But with the rising of the light the darkness pushes back against it still, trying to extinguish the light it can bring to hungry souls.
But if you are a Jew of a Christian you are persecuted for your faith in many countries around the world. Not nearly so much here in the US because Zion is here in the midst of it all.
Today's so-called "science" considers us false prophets. Could be that we are the scorpions that are sent to sting to wake people up.
You look at today and who is destroying the earth.. it's not God. It's man. But they don't want to take responsibility, just blame something else.
The system of the world is already in place. It's not something that is coming. Call it a Beast or a False prophet... could be the book of Revelation is how the darkness sees through it's eyes. How daarkness interpets the coming of the Lord.
It sounds frightening when you read it. So much anger and fear.
I agree it is a warning but to who?
To me it seems that half way through the story flips back right side up. Where things become "normal" or the way they were purposed to.
Could be where John turns his head and sees the New City Jerusalem coming down from heaven.
This would be when the Messiah returns. His Kingdom is coming.
In a spiritual sense the Kingdom of heaven is already here on earth in the hearts and minds of those who are here.
And we are being prosecuted and called all kinds of names. They will try to snuff us out like a lamp waiting at the gate.
They say if we take the name of the Lord as our own then we are "marked" . Even though we say we are "sealed" .
Not mush difference between a mark and a seal. Both identify the signature.
Dark to Light. That's how I read the book of Revelation saometimes.
It begins with those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. This book has many sounds.
Begins with warnings, We need to do better.
Then is shows us the point of view from the adversary. And that we are the opposition.
Then it turns and all is in God's hands.
As it has always been and always will be.
I am not saying how you see it is wrong. I can see it that way too.
It's just sometimes I hear it differently.
HUGS
Earburner
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In the KJV Bible and the Textus Receptus Greek Text, there are no words, such as "The Antichrist" found written in them.
Ronald Nolette
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Yes there is!
1Jo 2:18
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Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
"antichristos" nominative SINGULAR masculine.
Ziggy
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I am having trouble reconciling this:
Luk 6:35
But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
And Ezekiel chapter 9.
Eze 9:3
And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side;
Eze 9:4
And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
Eze 9:5
And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
Eze 9:6
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
Eze 9:7
And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.
Eze 9:8
And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?
Eze 9:9
Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not.
Eze 9:10
And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.
Eze 9:11
And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me.
And:
Luk 18:16
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
And:
Mat 9:13
But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Little children, it is the last time... 1John 2:18
Ecc 3:1
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
Ecc 3:2
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
Ecc 3:3
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
Ecc 3:4
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
Ecc 3:5
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
Ecc 3:6
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
Ecc 3:7
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
Ecc 3:8
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
Again:
Rev 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Eze 9:4
And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
Eze 9:6
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
Reconcile?
Jas 3:12
Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
Jhn 14:30 — Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
Jhn 12:31
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Jhn 16:11
Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
Luk 22:53
When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.
2Co 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Mal 3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
I think there is a lot we still do not understand. The OT is hard as stone. The NT is soft and easy to bare.
Men bring wars upon themselves through their greed and lust for power.
In one place, men are marked and spared. In another place men are marked and slaughtered.
Which one is false?
Reconcile?
Hugs
Luk 6:35
But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
And Ezekiel chapter 9.
Eze 9:3
And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side;
Eze 9:4
And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
Eze 9:5
And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
Eze 9:6
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
Eze 9:7
And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.
Eze 9:8
And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?
Eze 9:9
Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not.
Eze 9:10
And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.
Eze 9:11
And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me.
And:
Luk 18:16
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
And:
Mat 9:13
But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Little children, it is the last time... 1John 2:18
Ecc 3:1
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
Ecc 3:2
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
Ecc 3:3
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
Ecc 3:4
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
Ecc 3:5
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
Ecc 3:6
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
Ecc 3:7
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
Ecc 3:8
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
Again:
Rev 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Eze 9:4
And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
Eze 9:6
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
Reconcile?
Jas 3:12
Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
Jhn 14:30 — Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
Jhn 12:31
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Jhn 16:11
Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
Luk 22:53
When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.
2Co 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Mal 3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
I think there is a lot we still do not understand. The OT is hard as stone. The NT is soft and easy to bare.
Men bring wars upon themselves through their greed and lust for power.
In one place, men are marked and spared. In another place men are marked and slaughtered.
Which one is false?
Reconcile?
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