Abortion

[Jack]

As I said, I voted for other issues. Democrats tend to vote for social programs, consumer protection, workplace safety regulation, equal opportunity, and disability rights. I didn't see a single Republican talk about this in 2022.

So you ignored the murders of MILLIONS of babies for $$$.

 

[Naomanos]

So why aren't you speaking against abortions? Oh that's right, you voted for Biden the baby killer.

One more reply like this and I will put you on ignore as well.

I have spoken against abortions in this thread. I have said that I don't support abortions unless medically necessary. That is speaking out against them.

 

[Raccoon1010]

As I said, I voted for other issues. Democrats tend to vote for social programs, consumer protection, workplace safety regulation, equal opportunity, and disability rights. I didn't see a single Republican talk about this in 2022.

I voted Democrat once for that reason as I am suffer from a disability. But then they get in office and mess things up really bad and the anti-Christian workings get forced on everyone.

 

[Jack]

One more reply like this and I will put you on ignore as well.

I have spoken against abortions in this thread. I have said that I don't support abortions unless medically necessary. That is speaking out against them.

Really? Do you have links? Your right hand doesn't seem to know what your LEFT hand is doing.

 

[Naomanos]

Really? Do you have links?

Read through the thread. Countless times I have said that I do not support abortion unless medically necessary. I literally just said it in the reply that you just quoted.

 

[Jack]

Read through the thread. Countless times I have said that I do not support abortion unless medically necessary. I literally just said it in the reply that you just quoted.

So you vote for Dems who get RICH murdering babies!

 

[Naomanos]

But then they get in office and mess things up really bad

I am not sure that is true. They tend to have to fix the previous Republican's mess when they get into office.

anti-Christian workings get forced on everyone.

Not everyone in this country is a Christian. There are other religions or no religion at all. They shouldn't have Christianity forced on them and come to it by choice. That is what I see when Democrats do something that some Christians see having something anti-Christian pushed on them. This is of course my opinion on that, but I know others have their own opinions, whether right or wrong.

 

[Naomanos]

So you vote for Dems who get RICH murdering babies!

What does that have anything to do with what you quoted?

I vote for Democrats for the reasons I mentioned above.

 

[Raccoon1010]

I am not sure that is true. They tend to have to fix the previous Republican's mess when they get into office.



Not everyone in this country is a Christian. There are other religions or no religion at all. They shouldn't have Christianity forced on them and come to it by choice. That is what I see when Democrats do something that some Christians see having something anti-Christian pushed on them. This is of course my opinion on that, but I know others have their own opinions, whether right or wrong.

Did you know the Catholic church can't run adoption centers unless it allows GBLT to adopt?

 

[Jack]

What does that have anything to do with what you quoted?

I vote for Democrats for the reasons I mentioned above.

It's about YOU voting for baby murderers by the MILLIONS. That's why you're being EVASIVE!

 

[Naomanos]

It's about YOU voting for baby murderers by the MILLIONS. That's why you're being EVASIVE!

You didn't address what I said and went off on a tangent. It wasn't evasiveness, it was trying to get you back on track.

There is more than one issue to vote for. If I didn't care about the programs above, I would vote Republican, but since I do care about those programs, I will vote Democrat.

I also said one more reply like the one I quoted above and you were going on ignore. I am a man of my word.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Here's the thing. You don't get to say what I am complicit in. I give my approval to allow others what they will choose, that is not the same thing as approving abortion. I am not complicit in abortions. If I tell someone that I do not believe in abortions and you shouldn't have one, but it is your choice as I cannot force you not to have one, that is not being complicit. That is realizing that I cannot make choices for other people.

I notice that you completely ignored where I said you choose every day whether to sin or not. I realize that it puts you into a corner, and your lack of response to it is telling.

Also, if someone had a knife to any of my family member's throats, I would take them down. They made a choice to do that, and the consequence will be me taking them down and having them arrested. I still support their choice to do that, but as I have said all along, they will face the consequence of that choice. So, you do not get to say what kind of person I am, because you do not know me at all and all you do is misconstrue what I have said over and over again.

You will now join amigo de christo on ignore.

The difference between choosing to commit that affects ONLY me and choosing to murder a baby - is the fact that the latter forces your will on another to the point of DEATH. You don’t have ANY right to force your sinful will on ANYONE – let alone an innocent child.
This is just more of your rationalization . . .

I suggest you RE-THINK the abortion matter with a Christian world view – and NOT that of a moral relativist – or a flat-out denier and rejecter of God lime Stan and some others.

 

[Naomanos]

Did you know the Catholic church can't run adoption centers unless it allows GBLT to adopt?

This is not the subject of this thread. I will answer this only once. The Catholic church is a 501c organization and therefore subject to the rules of the government.

 

[Stan B]

Sounds like YOU’VE been reading too many Jack Chick comic books inspired by Alexander Hislop’s heavily-debunked scck classic, “The Two Babylons”.

I’m NOT surprised that a person as angry and ignorant as yourself would be sucked in by this nonsense. Perhaps you – and every other rube who bought into this should read “The Babylon Connection?” by Ralph Woodrow, as former student of Hislop’s work.

After writing a follow-up book to Hislop’s original nonsense, called “Babylon Mystery Religion”, Woodrow did some ACTUAL RESEARCH for a follow—up book. What he discovered shook him to his very foundations:
Hislop had simply MADE UP and INVENTED most of this garbage and attributed it to the Catholic Church.

In other words – Hislop was just another ignorant anti-Catholic – like YOU . . .

Woodrow now runs a website APOLOGIZING for his earlier book and WARNS people about Hislop.
Apparently, YOU didn't get the meno . . .

“Who is the more foolish? The fool or the fool who follows him”
- Obi Wan Kenobi, Star Wars

I haven't read any of the books you mention. My conclusions are drawn from what the Bible tells us about the Pagan Queen of Heaven; and further confirmed in the news, showing a picture of an unnamed Satanic idolator kneeling before his god, the Queen of Heaven.

Then there is the Mary worshipping cult lead by 63,000 Marionist Priests, who preach that we should ignore Jesus, and dedicate our hearts to embracing Mary!!

"I [Mary] invite you all to consecrate themselves to my Immaculate Heart, and I am extending my request to the most extreme limits of the earth, through my Marion Movement of Priests. In this way I am offering you a safe refuge, which the most Holy Trinity has prepared for you . . . yap yap yap"

BTW, guess where the Bible says the great Whore is going to be located ??? Duh!!

 

[Naomanos]

I haven't read any of the books you mention. My conclusions are drawn from what the Bible tells us about the Pagan Queen of Heaven; and further confirmed in the news, showing a picture of an unnamed Satanic idolator kneeling before his god, the Queen of Heaven.

Then there is the Mary worshipping cult lead by 63,000 Marionist Priests, who preach that we should ignore Jesus, and dedicate our hearts to embracing Mary!!

"I [Mary] invite you all to consecrate themselves to my Immaculate Heart, and I am extending my request to the most extreme limits of the earth, through my Marion Movement of Priests. In this way I am offering you a safe refuge, which the most Holy Trinity has prepared for you . . . yap yap yap"

BTW, guess where the Bible says the great Whore is going to be located ??? Duh!!

I was a cradle Catholic. The more I read the Bible, the more I realized that the Catholic church didn't hold the truth that it said it did as I was growing up. I no longer consider myself Catholic and all the better for it.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Well @Naomanos, I support the Christian church and I don't support other religions in the USA. It was founded by Christians. I also don't support GBLT and only support marriage and thru procreation, family, in a marriage between man and woman. GBLT can't have children naturally, so it's not natural. Democrats don't care and do the opposite as what I believe is right. Including abortions.

 

[Naomanos]

Well @Naomanos, I support the Christian church and I don't support other religions in the USA.

I support the Christian church as well and I support other churches being here as this country, while founded by Christians, was also founded on the freedom of religion, which means that an individual has the right to practice his or her own religion or no religion at all. It also states that the government cannot promote or encourage any form of religion.

This is in our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Were you aware that not all of the founding fathers were of the same religion?

So you are not quite in line with what the founding fathers had in mind.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I haven't read any of the books you mention. My conclusions are drawn from what the Bible tells us about the Pagan Queen of Heaven; and further confirmed in the news, showing a picture of an unnamed Satanic idolator kneeling before his god, the Queen of Heaven.

Then there is the Mary worshipping cult lead by 63,000 Marionist Priests, who preach that we should ignore Jesus, and dedicate our hearts to embracing Mary!!

"I [Mary] invite you all to consecrate themselves to my Immaculate Heart, and I am extending my request to the most extreme limits of the earth, through my Marion Movement of Priests. In this way I am offering you a safe refuge, which the most Holy Trinity has prepared for you . . . yap yap yap"

BTW, guess where the Bible says the great Whore is going to be located ??? Duh!!

“Mary worship”??

Show me a SINGLE teaching in the Catechism – where you will find ALL of our doctrines – about “worshipping” Mary or anybody other than God.
Take ALL the time you need . . .

Anyway, it doesn’t matter if you’ve actually READ Hislop OR Chick. Their manure had polluted anti-Catholic minds for over a century now. It has become so engrained in your culture of hate for so long, it’s almost impossible to dissect anti-Catholicism from these fairy-tales.

By the way, Einstein – where IS the “Great Whore” located?
MY sources say apostate Jerusalem is the ONLY one that fits the puzzle . . .

 

[Taken]

So no, at no point in the would-be "forming" of the body or soul of mankind is there any time they are not fully them and rather prematurely not them.

No, no, is, not, not.....Huh? No clue what you are trying to say.

 

[Raccoon1010]

I support the Christian church as well and I support other churches being here as this country, while founded by Christians, was also founded on the freedom of religion, which means that an individual has the right to practice his or her own religion or no religion at all. It also states that the government cannot promote or encourage any form of religion.

This is in our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Were you aware that not all of the founding fathers were of the same religion?

So you are not quite in line with what the founding fathers had in mind.

But I still support the Lords prayer: Let it be done on earth as it is in heaven.

Will you find abortions, GBLT, other religions in heaven? So I support the Lords way for my country. Anything else and I would not be on God's side I suppose.