Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

[dad]

No, the result of His rule is that the nations are dashed to pieces and broken to shivers.

Utter destruction.

That does not fit with us ruling nations. You dark thoughts have skewed reality and the result is some monstrous nonsense.

 

[dad]

He doesn't. He is correcting the errant hearsay that one antichrist is coming, with the reality that many antichrists had already come.

So now you openly deny that that wicked one will come one day. Bingo.

Great, so now that you have denied prophesy about that man of sin in the end let's move on. Time for you to be seen denying the millennium. Do you believe Jesus with His saints will rule the nations after He returns to earth, yes or no?

 

[covenantee]

So now you openly deny that that wicked one will come one day. Bingo.

Great, so now that you have denied prophesy about that man of sin in the end let's move on. Time for you to be seen denying the millennium. Do you believe Jesus with His saints will rule the nations after He returns to earth, yes or no?

So you openly deny that there are many antichrists, as John tells us in 1 John 2:18. Gong.

Since there is no Scripture which claims that "Jesus with His saints will rule the nations after He returns to earth", I don't believe what no Scripture claims.

 

[covenantee]

That does not fit with us ruling nations. You dark thoughts have skewed reality and the result is some monstrous nonsense.

Your denial of Scripture's explicit descriptions of the calamitous results of the rule of the nations is interpretation by hallucination at its worst.

 

[dad]

So you openly deny that there are many antichrists, as John tells us in 1 John 2:18. Gong.

Since there is no Scripture which claims that "Jesus with His saints will rule the nations after He returns to earth", I don't believe what no Scripture claims.

Try to be honest I said there are many antichrists, but only one AntiChrist. Verse do not need to be phrased exactly in the words you toss out to have meaning. The rule of Christ with His saints is well written about in the bible. So we can add that to your list, you apparently do not believe in the rule on earth of Jesus when He comes! Astounding. With all the thing you disbelieve we have nothing in common. I do not consider it is just a matter of opinion. I consider you not to be a bible believer. Let's hope you somehow believe in Jesus, though you do not know what He is like since you seem to think He is going to chop everyone one earth to pieces and burn the planet when He returns! Right?

 

[dad]

Your denial of Scripture's explicit descriptions of the calamitous results of the rule of the nations is interpretation by hallucination at its worst.

So you imagine no life on earth when Jesus returns, no nations, etc. I think we have heard your opinion on this enough. That opinion is a disgrace to the name of Jesus.

 

[covenantee]

Try to be honest I said there are many antichrists, but only one AntiChrist. Verse do not need to be phrased exactly in the words you toss out to have meaning. The rule of Christ with His saints is well written about in the bible. So we can add that to your list, you apparently do not believe in the rule on earth of Jesus when He comes! Astounding. With all the thing you disbelieve we have nothing in common. I do not consider it is just a matter of opinion. I consider you not to be a bible believer. Let's hope you somehow believe in Jesus, though you do not know what He is like since you seem to think He is going to chop everyone one earth to pieces and burn the planet when He returns! Right?

What you consider, and what is reality, are completely divorced from one another.

You are steeped in dispensational futurism (df), a modernist dogma characterized by denial of Scriptural tenets held by the historical orthodox Christian Church for 17 centuries. Church history is anathema to df, as df godfather John Nelson Darby scornfully affirmed. Intrinsic to df is a denial, and attempted futurization, of numerous historical Scriptural fulfillments.

I believe in a God of fulfillments, anchored in the reality of Scripture and history.

You don't, and have nothing but the psychoses of presumption, conjecture, hypothesis, imagination, and hallucination to attempt to substitute.

I'm anchored in reality.

You're unanchored in fantasy.

Simple as that.

 

[covenantee]

So you imagine no life on earth when Jesus returns, no nations, etc. I think we have heard your opinion on this enough. That opinion is a disgrace to the name of Jesus.

The actual disgrace is in your incessant attempts to impose your dispensational futurist fantasies and fallacies upon the clear plain Word of God.

Hallucinatory psychosis is a serious condition.

 

[dad]

What you consider, and what is reality, are completely divorced from one another.

You are steeped in dispensational futurism (df), a modernist dogma characterized by denial of Scriptural tenets held by the historical orthodox Christian Church for 17 centuries. Church history is anathema to df, as df godfather John Nelson Darby scornfully affirmed. Intrinsic to df is a denial, and attempted futurization, of numerous historical Scriptural fulfillments.

I believe in a God of fulfillments, anchored in the reality of Scripture and history.

You don't, and have nothing but the psychoses of presumption, conjecture, hypothesis, imagination, and hallucination to attempt to substitute.

I'm anchored in reality.

You're unanchored in fantasy.

Simple as that.

So you like to dress unbelief in the bible as all that. Whatever.

 

[dad]

The actual disgrace is in your incessant attempts to impose your dispensational futurist fantasies and fallacies upon the clear plain Word of God.

Hallucinatory psychosis is a serious condition.

So the truth is so foreign in your mind that it seems like a mental disease to you. Whatever. Let's review, you don't believe in an evil world leader just before Jesus returns that is called several things, the most common being AntiChrist. You do not believe in the rule of Jesus with His saints on earth after He returns, because you think all people are in little pieces you call 'shivers'. You do not believe in a Great Tribulation before Jesus returns. Is that right so far?

 

[covenantee]

So the truth is so foreign in your mind that it seems like a mental disease to you. Whatever. Let's review, you don't believe in an evil world leader just before Jesus returns that is called several things, the most common being AntiChrist. You do not believe in the rule of Jesus with His saints on earth after He returns, because you think all people are in little pieces you call 'shivers'. You do not believe in a Great Tribulation before Jesus returns. Is that right so far?

Post the Scriptures for your claims, otherwise there are no bases for discussion.

Let's start earlier. You deny that Christ completely fulfilled Daniel 9:24 at Calvary. You believe that Christ in Daniel 9:27 is Antichrist. You deny that Christ confirmed His Covenant, prophesied in Daniel 9:27, in Matthew 26:28. Is that right so far?

 

[covenantee]

So you like to dress unbelief in the bible as all that. Whatever.

Reality is no dress.

 

[dad]

Post the Scriptures for your claims, otherwise there are no bases for discussion.

Let's start earlier. You deny that Christ completely fulfilled Daniel 9:24 at Calvary. You believe that Christ in Daniel 9:27 is Antichrist. You deny that Christ confirmed His Covenant, prophesied in Daniel 9:27, in Matthew 26:28. Is that right so far?

I guess we can take that as yes since you once again dishonestly avoided a simple answer.

The covenant on Dan 9 was not what you claim and you have no support for it. As for you spamming matthew 26, that has no relation to the last week of Dan 9.

There were some posters that claimed the Great Tribulation happened thousands of years ago. Shall we add you to that list, since you admitted no believing in it, if I read you right? Be clear.

 

[covenantee]

The covenant on Dan 9 was not what you claim and you have no support for it.

I have support from the historical orthodox Christian Church. Wanna see it?

 

[dad]

I have support from the historical orthodox Christian Church. Wanna see it?

That amounts to used toilet paper. So answer the last question. Maybe add one more as well,
Do you believe in a real 6 day creation including that Eve was taken from the created man one day? Yes or no? Ha

 

[covenantee]

The covenant on Dan 9 was not what you claim and you have no support for it.

That amounts to used toilet paper.

So similarly, nothing that you claim is what you claim, and you have no support for it.

Thus we're at an impasse, and this conversation is concluded.

 

[jeffweeder]

So similarly, nothing that you claim is what you claim, and you have no support for it.

Thus we're at an impasse, and this conversation is concluded.

Good idea

 

[The Light]

Wrong week.
Want to know exactly what the scripture proclaims in regard to Jesus starting his work as Messiah?

25 So you are to know and understand that from the issuance of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until [the coming of] the Messiah (the Anointed One), the Prince, there will be seven weeks [of years] and sixty-two weeks [of years];

69 weeks pass and then Messiah starts his work.

Jesus knew exactly what He was doing by coming on a donkey at the end of the 69th week Now, when we continue reading we see....

Daniel 9
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Notice that the Word does not say....And after three score and two and a half weeks shall Messiah be cut off. Messiah is cut off after three score and two weeks. It cut and dried.

 

[dad]

So similarly, nothing that you claim is what you claim, and you have no support for it.

Thus we're at an impasse, and this conversation is concluded.

Tired of admitting all the bible you don't believe? Too bad I was hoping you would admit your 'belief' about God creating the world. If you had admitted that before running, the last question would have been about Sodom.
Toodaloo

 

[jeffweeder]

Jesus knew exactly what He was doing by coming on a donkey

Yes he did and it was the exact opposite to what the crowd thought. Instead of taking his place as King he went to the cross to atone for the sins of the whole world.

[ Quote Light] Now, when we continue reading we see....
Daniel 9
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Notice that the Word does not say....And after three score and two and a half weeks shall Messiah be cut off. Messiah is cut off after three score and two weeks. [End]



Lol.
Messiah has to arrive first before he is cut off. You really need to digest v25 as to when he arrives ..., in order to rightly understand v26. Common sense should prevail Bro'