Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

[dad]

the abomination of desolation, as the prophecy before us says, appeared in its place.

That is so non Scriptural it is ridiculous. Look at what Daniel says

Daniel 12:11

And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

And in case you are unaware of the time context here look at the last verse in the chapter.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

There was no 1290 days till the end of days around the time of the death and resurrection of Jesus!

 

[covenantee]

Highlight where Jesus breaks a covenant? The bible tells us that the AntiChrist will break one in the middle of seven years. That is news?

Dispensational fallacy tells us that the AntiChrist will break one in the middle of seven years.

The Bible doesn't.

Waiting for you to show us those magical words "Antichrist" and "break".

The ones that don't appear in any Bible.

 

[covenantee]

Appeal to popularity (at least in your mind you seem to think the so called church leaders were anyone to look up to or listen to. I suggest they were people to protect your kids against)

Yes, they were so popular that they were martyred by the multitude.

Just like today's armchair dispensational deluded deniers.

 

[dad]

Dispensational fallacy tells us that the AntiChrist will break one in the middle of seven years.

The Bible doesn't.

Waiting for you to show us those magical words "Antichrist" and "break".

The ones that don't appear in any Bible.

The words antichrist and break are of course in the bible. There are many names for him. The man of sin, the beast, etc etc. It is in the middle of that seven final years that the countdown for the tribulation begins. Not in 3 AD or whatever! Let's listen to Jesus spell it out.

Matthew 24:15

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)


Matthew 24:21

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

He that has ears to hear will know about the abomination of desolation Daniel spoke of. You do not.

Those reading this should know that only when that abomination is set up does that GREAT TRIBULATION start. period. Even suggesting this could have been thousands of years ago show us that you truly do not have ears to hear as Jesus said was needed.

 

[covenantee]

That is so non Scriptural it is ridiculous. Look at what Daniel says

Daniel 12:11

And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

And in case you are unaware of the time context here look at the last verse in the chapter.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

There was no 1290 days till the end of days around the time of the death and resurrection of Jesus!

What are you doing in Daniel 12? There is no covenant confirmed in that chapter.

You could help yourself by focusing on the relevant Scripture in Daniel 9.

 

[dad]

Yes, they were so popular that they were martyred by the multitude.

Just like today's armchair dispensational deluded deniers.

I frankly don't care what they did. If they were that wrong on a basic and important issue, why would I trust anything they said?

 

[covenantee]

The words antichrist and break are of course in the bible. There are many names for him. The man of sin, the beast, etc etc. It is in the middle of that seven final years that the countdown for the tribulation begins. Not in 3 AD or whatever! Let's listen to Jesus spell it out.

Matthew 24:15

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)


Matthew 24:21

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

He that has ears to hear will know about the abomination of desolation Daniel spoke of. You do not.

There is no word for "antichrist" in ancient Hebrew, so there is nothing that a nonexistent antichrist can break.

Just dispensational folly and fallacy.

 

[dad]

What are you doing in Daniel 12? There is no covenant confirmed in that chapter.

You could help yourself by focusing on the relevant Scripture in Daniel 9.

The sacrifice and abomination and final time are spoken of in more than one chapter or verse. Sorry that is news.

 

[dad]

There is no word for "antichrist" in ancient Hebrew, so there is nothing that a nonexistent antichrist can break.

Just dispensational folly and fallacy.

Tomato, tomatoe. The guy has many names. Either you are feigning ignorance or you are extremely ignorant.

1 John 2:18

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Who asked if this was known to ancient Hebrews by that name??

 

[Davy]

Yes, they were so popular that they were martyred by the multitude.

Just like today's armchair dispensational deluded deniers.

You are pushing Jewish PROPAGANDA. It's the FALSE Jews who push the idea that Daniel's final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 was about Christ's Ministry. That is a COMPLETE LIE by Judaizers against Christ Jesus!

So one does NOT have to be a Dispensationalist to understand that the final 'week' of Daniel 9:27 is about the "great tribulation" time for the end of this world that Jesus forewarned His servants about. And it is DIRECTLY RELATED to what the "vile person" of Daniel 11 does, fulfilling the role of the coming pseudo-Christ, "antichrist" of John, and "man of sin" of Paul, and "another beast" also mentioned by John in Revelation 13.

So why don't you go back to your hole and quit pushing anti-Christian doctrine NOT WRITTEN ANYWHERE IN GOD'S WORD.

 

[covenantee]

I frankly don't care what they did. If they were that wrong on a basic and important issue, why would I trust anything they said?

Of course you don't care.

Scriptural historical fulfillment is anathema to dispensational fallacy, for it exposes its deceptions and delusions.

 

[covenantee]

Tomato, tomatoe. The guy has many names. Either you are feigning ignorance or you are extremely ignorant.

1 John 2:18

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Who asked if this was known to ancient Hebrews by that name??

Awaiting those two magical words of hallucinatory dispensational psychosis.

"Antichrist" and "break".

Are you aware that 1 John was not written in ancient Hebrew?

 

[covenantee]

You are pushing Jewish PROPAGANDA. It's the FALSE Jews who push the idea that Daniel's final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 was about Christ's Ministry. That is a COMPLETE LIE by Judaizers against Christ Jesus!

So one does NOT have to be a Dispensationalist to understand that the final 'week' of Daniel 9:27 is about the "great tribulation" time for the end of this world that Jesus forewarned His servants about. And it is DIRECTLY RELATED to what the "vile person" of Daniel 11 does, fulfilling the role of the coming pseudo-Christ, "antichrist" of John, and "man of sin" of Paul, and "another beast" also mentioned by John in Revelation 13.

So why don't you go back to your hole and quit pushing anti-Christian doctrine NOT WRITTEN ANYWHERE IN GOD'S WORD.

More psychotic raving. I was wondering when you would be emerging.

Were the historical defenders of Christian orthodoxy all false Jews?

Scripture for that?

 

[dad]

Of course you don't care.

Scriptural historical fulfillment is anathema to dispensational fallacy, for it exposes its deceptions and delusions.

You can keep the popes and bishops etc etc. The result today is a pedo infested outfit in apostasy

 

[covenantee]

You can keep the popes and bishops etc etc. The result today is a pedo infested outfit in apostasy

The same outfit that fabricated the counterfeit futurized antichrist embraced by dispensational delusionism.

 

[dad]

Awaiting those two magical words of hallucinatory dispensational psychosis.

"Antichrist" and "break".

Are you aware that 1 John was not written in ancient Hebrew?

1 John 2:18

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Now you may not perceive the sudden change in the middle of the seven years as 'breaking' the agreement, but we do know his heart is against it. He moves against it in the middle of the seven years.
Daniel 11:31

And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

So when they take away the daily sacrifice and place the abomination that is in the middle of the seven year agreement. Whatever word for this you might choose to use the result is the same. There are seven years and in the middle of this the abomination of desolation Daniel spoke of in a few places is set up. The Great Tribulation Jesus says then starts. There is no possibility that happened thousands of years ago.

 

[dad]

The same outfit that fabricated the counterfeit futurized antichrist embraced by dispensational delusionism.

You can keep all your outfits. The bible speaks for itself.

 

[Enoch111]

Scriptural historical fulfillment is anathema to dispensational fallacy, for it exposes its deceptions and delusions.

The only one who is thoroughly deluded here is covenantee. But since you resist the truth, you will remain in the dark.

 

[The Light]

I have no idea and couldn't care less about that. I don't believe what I do because of what any denomination believes. Many people believe that Daniel 9:27 is referring to Jesus confirming the new covenant.

I understand. It just that the teaching is in error. Not sure why anyone could conclude that Jesus would make a covenant for one week as God's covenants are forever. Then God would break His covenant? Doesn't make sense.

It's like people concluding that the rider on the white horse at the 1st seal is Jesus and then the other three horses are evil. It just error and lack of understanding.

 

[ScottA]

The covenant is not just with Israel. He will confirm that with many. Then break his word, There is no possible fit to this being Jesus.

Yes, "to the Jew first and also to the Greek." I Know it offends most Christians, but it is not me claiming it, but Jesus:

Matthew 23:38
See! Your house is left to you desolate.​