attacking another denomination are included in this rule.

[Raccoon1010]

If you find a good church where you feel comfortable that'd be great, but personally I never found one, so I'm happy to go it alone because strictly speaking we don't need any denomination to tell us what to think as long as we stay focussed on Jesus..:)
Jesus said:-"You have one teacher, me" (Matthew 23:10),
"Thomas said to him, Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”
Jesus replied- 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me'" (John 14:5-6)
"And the common people heard him gladly" (Mark 12:37)

A church organization is spelled out in the bible. And it supports caring for people and tending to their needs. And this is a vital role of a Christian that is healthy and strong. Christ spelled out the sheep and goats as a Royal Law. And that Royal Law is spoken of for his Bishops and Deacons to follow for his church. So I know somewhat what to look for in a church.

 

[amigo de christo]

Honestly, I have my doubts. I think God guided me to this point in my life. And I have yet to determine which church is most correct. And I think it will take God's guidance to discover that. I'm still lost I think as far as a church. But my doctrine is good and becoming better.

IF GOD convicts us and then we turn around and try it again , WE PUT OURSELVES IN DEADLY and a DANGEOROUS POSITION .
We have all we need in Christ . Pray not to angels to mary or to saints . Pray ONLY TO GOD . You got convicted
now heed the conviction and dont dabble with it any more . GOD is looking out for you my friend , just like he does for the lambs .
BUT DONT GO DO IT AGAIN NOW . That is not safe .

 

[Raccoon1010]

You mentioned you didn't like Sola Scriptura ....

No I don't think sola scriptura follow a bible teaching. As I mentioned that Christ spelled out the sheep and goats Royal Law. And the bible spells out Deacons and Bishops to preside over his church to tend to the needs of the less fortunate to follow this Royal Law. Without a church I think that becomes less likely to be followed. It is an organization of caring people that love each other in a Godly way. And that I see is good and follows God's teachings from the bible.

 

[farouk]

No I don't think sola scriptura follow a bible teaching. As I mentioned that Christ spelled out the sheep and goats Royal Law. And the bible spells out Deacons and Bishops to preside over his church to tend to the needs of the less fortunate to follow this Royal Law. Without a church I think that becomes less likely to be followed. It is an organization of caring people that love each other in a Godly way. And that I see is good and follows God's teachings from the bible.

What I meant was, the Scriptures must be the final appeal in matters of faith and practice.

Otherwise it all descends rapidly into tradition and opinion....

 

[Raccoon1010]

IF GOD convicts us and then we turn around and try it again , WE PUT OURSELVES IN DEADLY and a DANGEOROUS POSITION .
We have all we need in Christ . Pray not to angels to mary or to saints . Pray ONLY TO GOD . You got convicted
now heed the conviction and dont dabble with it any more . GOD is looking out for you my friend , just like he does for the lambs .
BUT DONT GO DO IT AGAIN NOW . That is not safe .

I'll decide my relationship with God and how he is instructing me. You saying he convicted me is someone presumptuous as if you're speaking for God here. But amigo, I don't recognize your authority since you're posts are anti-denominational.

 

[Raccoon1010]

What I meant was, the Scriptures must be the final appeal in matters of faith and practice.

Otherwise it all descends rapidly into tradition and opinion....

I agree, thanks for clarifying. :)

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

@Blue Dragonfly's Romans 8.9 indeed says: 'If any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His...'

I don't think you understood what I wrote. The verse you cited actually comports with what I said.

 

[farouk]

I don't think you understood what I wrote. The verse you cited actually comports with what I said.

I agree that the Holy Spirit indwells every truly born again believer.........

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

I'll decide my relationship with God and how he is instructing me. You saying he convicted me is someone presumptuous as if you're speaking for God here. But amigo, I don't recognize your authority since you're posts are anti-denominational.

What denomination was Jesus?

Please post the passage where Christ ascribes a denomination as under his authority and grace.

 

[amigo de christo]

What denomination was Jesus?

Please post the passage where Christ ascribes a denomination as under his authority and grace.

what denomination was pual . Are you of paul , are you of cephas . Paul was fast to shut down denominations of men .
If for one second folks started calling themselves after my name i would SHUT IT DOWN TOO .
SO how come we got calvinists or this or that . WHY cant it just be CHRISTAIN meaning OF CHRIST .
Exactly my friend . exactly .

 

[amigo de christo]

I'll decide my relationship with God and how he is instructing me. You saying he convicted me is someone presumptuous as if you're speaking for God here. But amigo, I don't recognize your authority since you're posts are anti-denominational.

Well just remember i , out of great love , reminded you NOT to pray to saints to mary , to angels nor to make statues and burn incense to them .
Cause on the DAY of the LORD i bet he wont be saying well done to those who did so and did not repent of it .

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

what denomination was pual . Are you of paul , are you of cephas . Paul was fast to shut down denominations of men .
If for one second folks started calling themselves after my name i would SHUT IT DOWN TOO .
SO how come we got calvinists or this or that . WHY cant it just be CHRISTAIN meaning OF CHRIST .
Exactly my friend . exactly .

Men. The faults of men. They live on for teachings they promulgated using the gospel.
Luther, Calvin, etc....

 

[Raccoon1010]

What denomination was Jesus?

Please post the passage where Christ ascribes a denomination as under his authority and grace.

Well I think @amigo de christo was trying to counsel me as if he were my Bishop in my church and telling me God was convicting me, and I didn't see it that way. But I think he would do well to re-read my recent posts that clearly spell out a church and leadership as discussed in the bible. For instance:

1 Timothy 3:2-13

John 20:23

And these verses spell out the church organization lead by the 12 apostles whom Christ gave authority to forgive and retain the sins of any.

So it would appear this original church had authority from Christ.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Well just remember i , out of great love , reminded you NOT to pray to saints to mary , to angels nor to make statues and burn incense to them .
Cause on the DAY of the LORD i bet he wont be saying well done to those who did so and did not repent of it .

Interesting amigo. As this concept of yours does not appear biblical either. We are counseled in the bible to try the spirits to see if they are from God. And I would believe this includes spirit angels from God. 1 John 4:1-5

 

[amigo de christo]

Well I think @amigo de christo was trying to counsel me as if he were my Bishop in my church and telling me God was convicting me, and I didn't see it that way. But I think he would do well to re-read my recent posts that clearly spell out a church and leadership as discussed in the bible. For instance:

1 Timothy 3:2-13

John 20:23

And these verses spell out the church organization lead by the 12 apostles whom Christ gave authority to forgive and retain the sins of any.

So it would appear this original church had authority from Christ.

I fully agree with the LEADERSHIP mentioned in said bible . Its when those bishops , deacons , elders and etc PREACH Falsehoods
THAT i dont agree with them . And shall correct them and if they wont heed then they are left to their own demise and then i warn
all agaisnt those who teach such falsehoods . OL amigo has Zero problem with anything in that bible , BUT WHEN folks
leaders and whoever contradicts what is written , THEN CORRECTION COMETH in LOVE .

 

[Raccoon1010]

Interesting amigo. As this concept of yours does not appear biblical either. We are counseled in the bible to try the spirits to see if they are from God. And I would believe this includes spirit angels from God. 1 John 4:1-5

And I think praying is similar to holding a discussion with a spirit angel from God. So I think your post may be confusing and condemning the matter.

 

[amigo de christo]

Interesting amigo. As this concept of yours does not appear biblical either. We are counseled in the bible to try the spirits to see if they are from God. And I would believe this includes spirit angels from God. 1 John 4:1-5

We test all spirits . BUT WE PRAY TO NONE , BUT GOD .
Now if you can show me in the bible where any true jew ever prayed to anyone other than GOD then feel free to do so .
PS , i can save you the problem , IT AINT THERE .
IF you can see where JESUS ever prayed to an angel or elijah or moses or anyone , OTHER THAN THE FATHER
please feel free to show me . PS you aint gonna find that either .
I suggest we keep the biblical pattern and not be led astray into a voluntary and humility act of worship to angels or to any man .
LET NO MAN BEGUILE YOU OF YOUR Reward . NOW THAT IS IN THE BIBLE , wrote by paul .
OH this is too , the angel told JOHN to get up and to WORSHIP GOD . OH yeah that is there too .
WE DONT pray to angels , we dont pray to mary or to saints or to men . PRAY TO GOD .

 

[amigo de christo]

And I think praying is similar to holding a discussion with a spirit angel from God. So I think your post may be confusing and condemning the matter.

THEY were praying to GOD . Then an angel appeared . NOT the other way around . THEY were not praying to angels
THEN an angel appeared . exactly . Now pray to GOD and not to angels or men .

 

[Philip James]

Honestly, I have my doubts. I think God guided me to this point in my life. And I have yet to determine which church is most correct. And I think it will take God's guidance to discover that. I'm still lost I think as far as a church. But my doctrine is good and becoming better.

Doubts are normal.

I don't believe anyone who with a humble and contrite heart seeks to follow Jesus will be put to shame.

May He continue to guide you brother!

Pax et Bonum

 

[Raccoon1010]

Doubts are normal.

I don't believe anyone who with a humble and contrite heart seeks to follow Jesus will be put to shame.

May He continue to guide you brother!

Pax et Bonum

Thanks that is encouraging :)