Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

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Ronald Nolette

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Too much pagan and Satan's mythology for me, and you call my post fiction. No wonder, you buy into human understanding instead of God's Word.


did you go to some school of legalistic christinaity? for you sure are extremely judgmental of those who disagree with you. Lies are based on seeds of truth. That is why satan is known as the great counterfeiter.

Of course Satan has a counterfeit explanation behind all the religions of men. Now you want to include Satan's rebel angels as the source for this propaganda from Satan?

And this response shows you do not read a post before you leap off the cliffs of false assumptions. I never said this. But pagan mythologies are loaded with seeds of biblical truths that are twisted for evil. If you bothered to study you would see and know that.

The sons of God were created on the 6th Day. They were giants compared to us. Sounds like they and the angels got together, but not for procreation. They sang songs and shouted for joy. Sounds like a musical competition get together. Wonder how the special effects looked like with lightning and thunder.

Thats right I forgot! The bible says Eve is the mother of all living, but the Book of Timtofly says no, God's Word is not correct here!
 

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Human life in a world like that would naturally manifest males that grow larger and more powerful since social status is determined by the physical dominance of males over other males.

Yet no such thing happens in the human or animal kingdom. There are no giant humans in any polygamy society nor in any animal society.

Giants were abnormal and came from the mixing of angels and human women.
 

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did you go to some school of legalistic christinaity? for you sure are extremely judgmental of those who disagree with you. Lies are based on seeds of truth. That is why satan is known as the great counterfeiter.
And this response shows you do not read a post before you leap off the cliffs of false assumptions. I never said this. But pagan mythologies are loaded with seeds of biblical truths that are twisted for evil. If you bothered to study you would see and know that.
Thats right I forgot! The bible says Eve is the mother of all living, but the Book of Timtofly says no, God's Word is not correct here!
Eve is the mother of all of Adam's dead flesh.

The sons of God were created on the 6th day. Adam was a son of God, and after the Sabbath was placed in the Garden of Eden/Paradise. Later Eve was taken out of Adam. Adam disobeyed God. He physically stopped being a son of God and was physically and spiritually in a dead corruptible physical body. He needed the Holy Spirit and a new incorruptible body, just like Eve and all who came after them in dead corruptible flesh.

Adam boasted that Eve was the mother of all dead flesh. Adam's boast which is a lie, is found in God's Word. God did not make that claim nor gave Eve her name. That was Adam's lie in his newly acquired sinful nature.
 

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No, it doesn't say that. Adam said that and it was his own personal statement.


You really want to say that? It is the inspired word of God and there is not one verse that contradicts saying eve is the mother of all living.

20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

This is Moses commentary. He was the editor of Genesis. Now prove that this part of the bible is a lie!
 

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You really want to say that? It is the inspired word of God and there is not one verse that contradicts saying eve is the mother of all living.


Doesn't make Adam's opinion true. Satan is quoted in the bible too. Do you think everything he said is true?
 

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Eve is the mother of all of Adam's dead flesh.

The sons of God were created on the 6th day. Adam was a son of God, and after the Sabbath was placed in the Garden of Eden/Paradise. Later Eve was taken out of Adam. Adam disobeyed God. He physically stopped being a son of God and was physically and spiritually in a dead corruptible physical body. He needed the Holy Spirit and a new incorruptible body, just like Eve and all who came after them in dead corruptible flesh.

Adam boasted that Eve was the mother of all dead flesh. Adam's boast which is a lie, is found in God's Word. God did not make that claim nor gave Eve her name. That was Adam's lie in his newly acquired sinful nature.


So now you are saying that these "sons of God" were humans who lived with Adam for 1,000 years before the garden was planted. You seem to imply they did not sin with Adam and were their own lineage apart from Adam. Is this correct?

BTW the Bible does not say Eve was the mother of all dead flesh. thast is your own personal interpretation. The bible does say Eve is the mother of all living. "koi hay" everything human alive! The bible as written disagrees with you.
 

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Doesn't make Adam's opinion true. Satan is quoted in the bible too. Do you think everything he said is true?

then prove it is a lie! Then Moses is also complcit in promoting this lie, for He was the one who made sure (under the Inpsiration of God) to write this down.

Gods Word tells us Satan is the Father of lies- so god warns us. Now find me a verse where we should take all things Adam said with a grain of salt.

For that matter seeing all teh writers of Scripture are sons of Adam and sinners- maybe according to your logic we should question all sCripture! this kind of insanity is how cults form and the seeds of false doctrine are sown.
 

Ronald Nolette

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Doesn't make Adam's opinion true. Satan is quoted in the bible too. Do you think everything he said is true?

Almost every time Satan opens His mouth He is rebukes or a comment is made about His evilness. Not true of Adam or Moses. C'mon man why don't you just accept this commentary as it is written? Do you really think God needs to correct His inspired Word for Him? If the statement was false, why is there not one word of rebuke ro correction.
 

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Almost every time Satan opens His mouth He is rebukes or a comment is made about His evilness. Not true of Adam or Moses. C'mon man why don't you just accept this commentary as it is written? Do you really think God needs to correct His inspired Word for Him? If the statement was false, why is there not one word of rebuke ro correction.


How can Eve be the mother of all living when Adam was alive before she was? Obviously his statement isn't accurate. A rebuke isn't even needed.

20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
 

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Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men
I know, this might be a stretch but take a good look at me; see all that radiance that those girls over there don't have? Does that answer the question? :cool:
 

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You really want to say that? It is the inspired word of God and there is not one verse that contradicts saying eve is the mother of all living.

20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

This is Moses commentary. He was the editor of Genesis. Now prove that this part of the bible is a lie!
Thus Eve gave birth to every plant, tree, animal, insect, bird, and fish in the sea?

Surely even Eve gave birth to even Adam himself?

Where do you draw the line on this boast of the disobedient Adam?

So now you are saying that these "sons of God" were humans who lived with Adam for 1,000 years before the garden was planted. You seem to imply they did not sin with Adam and were their own lineage apart from Adam. Is this correct?

BTW the Bible does not say Eve was the mother of all dead flesh. thast is your own personal interpretation. The bible does say Eve is the mother of all living. "koi hay" everything human alive! The bible as written disagrees with you.
So you don't think Adam is dead corruptible flesh? Adam is a perfect sinless being, just like you claim for yourself? Paul declares throughout his writings that Adam's offspring are dead in their sins and corruptible flesh. That is what the living are: dead corruptible flesh.
 
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How can Eve be the mother of all living when Adam was alive before she was? Obviously his statement isn't accurate. A rebuke isn't even needed.

20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
That's been debated rather it is was or become a few bibles has it as would be or become niv below the Berean and few others.

20 Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.
 

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How can Eve be the mother of all living when Adam was alive before she was? Obviously his statement isn't accurate. A rebuke isn't even needed.

20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

Are you really that uneducated that you do not understand what is said there? Or are you intentionally being obtuse? But let us assume you do not understand basic grammar structure.

God made Adam and Eve and eve was the mother of all living from that point on. Now that wasn't hard to understands was it? over 99% of humanity gets that easy, why you don't is beyond me.

Also as Adam had no mother she was not involved in HIm. But any human that had a mother- Eve is the original mother of them all.

but people with normal thinknig processes understand that Eve was the mother of all living and Adam was the Father of all living. They were teh first couple directly formed by gfpod and then all humans afterwards sprang from them.

Just likethe first animals ahad no parents but they became the parents.

C'mon man you really are grasping at straws here.
 
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Ronald Nolette

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Thus Eve gave birth to every plant, tree, animal, insect, bird, and fish in the sea?

Surely even Eve gave birth to even Adam himself?

Where do you draw the line on this boast of the disobedient Adam?

Now you are just being contentious and foolish. too bad you toss aside common sense when you look at Gods Word.

And tell me- what information did you draw on that made you draw the conclusion that this is a boast of Adam and included by Inspiration of God with Moses when He edited Genesis?
 

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Are you really that uneducated that you do not understand what is said there? Or are you intentionally being obtuse? But let us assume you do not understand basic grammar structure.


Stop being rude.
 

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God made Adam and Eve and eve was the mother of all living from that point on. Now that wasn't hard to understands was it? over 99% of humanity gets that easy, why you don't is beyond me.
No verse states that. That is your opinion, contrary to the verse that states Eve was taken out of Adam. Noah was a direct grandson of Eve, but his wife did not have to be. His son's wives did not have to be. Are you saying Cain married his sister? You have Scripture to state that fact? Do you just make stuff up to prove your point? You do realize that Adam and Eve had no children for at least 90 years after Cain and Abel? Are you saying Cain waited at least 120 years before he married a sister old enough? Where is the common sense that states there were many sons of God created on the 6th day, and they all had offspring just like Adam and Eve? After Noah, Eve was the mother of all sinners that lived on the earth. Moses was describing life after Noah, if you claim His edited reasoning about the sin condition.

Now you are just being contentious and foolish. too bad you toss aside common sense when you look at Gods Word.

And tell me- what information did you draw on that made you draw the conclusion that this is a boast of Adam and included by Inspiration of God with Moses when He edited Genesis?
Because they (all the rest of the living) were living as God created them. Adam and Eve on the other hand were just made corruptible dead flesh humans in a sin nature body. That is not living. You claim all living, so where do you draw the line that they made all creation just as dead in sin as they were?
 
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Stop being rude.

Then pleaqse stop acting like you are bereft of how to speak common english. You complaints make you sound like you never had a normal conversation with people.

You knew exactly what Gen. means when it says Eve is the mother of all living. You put that foolish comment for some silly reason.
 

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Then pleaqse stop acting like you are bereft of how to speak common english. You complaints make you sound like you never had a normal conversation with people.


You are still being rude. Try talking to people WITHOUT INSULTING THEM.
 

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No verse states that. That is your opinion, contrary to the verse that states Eve was taken out of Adam. Noah was a direct grandson of Eve, but his wife did not have to be. His son's wives did not have to be. Are you saying Cain married his sister? You have Scripture to state that fact? Do you just make stuff up to prove your point? You do realize that Adam and Eve had no children for at least 90 years after Cain and Abel? Are you saying Cain waited at least 120 years before he married a sister old enough? Where is the common sense that states there were many sons of God created on the 6th day, and they all had offspring just like Adam and Eve? After Noah, Eve was the mother of all sinners that lived on the earth. Moses was describing life after Noah, if you claim His edited reasoning about the sin condition.


Prove NOahs wife did not have to be related to Eve.

Prove that God created a whole host of men on day six. Whio didn't have any women for 1,000 years.

Prove the 1,000 years.\

The bible simply says Eve is the mother of all living. I will take god at His Word. what reason should I take you at your word?

YOU have no clue when Adam and Eve had children- you are simply taking human guesses and inserting them as biblical fact!

YOu are talking in all these silly circles of sin flesh and non sin flesh.

I do not need scripture that says explicitly that Cain married His sister or a niece. According to your time line The sons of God would now be 1090 years old when Adam and eve had a daughter.

Or did you get secret special revelation that when you say sons of God it also means daughters of God also when the bible says the Sons of Goid are males for they married daughters of mankind!

Which briungs me to another question. If the sons of God are simply oither humans who did not go through the trial of the garden as adam and eve did, had they sinned yet?

Why does the bible write distinctly that the sons of God married the daughters og mankind if the sons of God are actually sons of mankind as well?

YOu are taking you rinitnial mud and making it muddier by the response.