Why don't Sabbath Day Commanders ever speak of the Inner Man?

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How adorable is that!!

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My Uncle Harrison would say "How adorable can you get?!!"

That's me and my baby sister, Denise, on my birthday (if it isn't already terribly obvious). I think it was my tenth and she was two. We were on the island of Guam ("Where America's Day Begins") at Naval Air Station Aga
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"Denise" was also the name of a centerfold model in the "Gallery" magazine I sneaked out of my dad's nightstand at about this time, a coincidence which was utterly horrifying to me. At the time I felt like I would be scarred for life. This little incident (which I didn't cover up very well, it seems) precipitated "the talk."

Talk about "off-topic." :eek:

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robert derrick

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..which you find inadequate because you're not aware of the many statements made by Sabbath-keepers about the inner man and the Spirit of worship—a strange qualification for whatever authority it is you're looking for. ¿ And here I thought the Bible was the Christian's rule of faith and practice. ¿

This is the first time to respond to the original observation.

Provide proof of these statements, that I have never seen, until after this thread was posted.


I just kinda like seeing people ask these trap questions over and over, trying to be clever and then, finally, answering them quite handily.

The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men? answer me.

Not trap questions, but only direct questions to stop all the dancing around, which the dishonest refuse to answer, and proceed to dance around the question itself.

It's the direct question I ask those commanding a sabbath to keep, especially when they start accusing others of not respecting them as Christians. It is entirely proper to do so.

Other such direct questions I ask are:

To those preaching unconditional salvation, Can anyone that is committing sin of the devil, such as fornicating, being dunk, stealing, bearing false witness, etc... be a born son of God in Christ Jesus, and not a child of the devil?

None of them have said, No.

To those preaching a created christ, I ask if they know God or Jesus Christ.

None have said, Yes.

(This one's actually a little different than before--as they usually are--as this one mentions the status of salvation, upon which I never presume to speculate--what I deem as a brother in fellowship has nothing to do with their standing with God, since I only have the outward appearance to judge.)

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This of course is the unscriptural answer of the unrighteous non-judgemental.

And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

The churches are commanded by Jesus and Paul to keep discipline in the faith, by not extending the right hand of fellowship to them not keeping the commandments of God, as well as teaching false doctrine:

If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

If I believed the Lord's Sabbath (not the pseudo exception-ridden modern one), were indeed commanded to the body of Christ, then I would not keep company with any such profaner of the sabbath, for which the soul would be cut off from Christ, even as in the law of Moses was cut off from Israel.

Nor would I even allow into my house anyone preaching otherwise.

And so, you prove your commandment is not a real commandment of the Lord, by not obeying Scripture and still keeping company with them that willfully profane the sabbath.
 

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My Uncle Harrison would say "How adorable can you get?!!"

That's me and my baby sister, Denise, on my birthday (if it isn't already terribly obvious). I think it was my tenth and she was two. We were on the island of Guam ("Where America's Day Begins") at Naval Air Station Aga
ña.




"Denise" was also the name of a centerfold model in the "Gallery" magazine I sneaked out of my dad's nightstand at about this time, a coincidence which was utterly horrifying to me. At the time I felt like I would be scarred for life. This little incident (which I didn't cover up very well, it seems) precipitated "the talk."

Talk about "off-topic." :eek:

How's that for adorable?m
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Life is a mixed bag!

But you sure were two very cute children!!

Much love!
 

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This is the first time to respond to the original observation.

Provide proof of these statements, that I have never seen, until after this thread was posted.




The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men? answer me.

Not trap questions, but only direct questions to stop all the dancing around, which the dishonest refuse to answer, and proceed to dance around the question itself.

It's the direct question I ask those commanding a sabbath to keep, especially when they start accusing others of not respecting them as Christians. It is entirely proper to do so.

Other such direct questions I ask are:

To those preaching unconditional salvation, Can anyone that is committing sin of the devil, such as fornicating, being dunk, stealing, bearing false witness, etc... be a born son of God in Christ Jesus, and not a child of the devil?

None of them have said, No.

To those preaching a created christ, I ask if they know God or Jesus Christ.

None have said, Yes.



This of course is the unscriptural answer of the unrighteous non-judgemental.

And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

The churches are commanded by Jesus and Paul to keep discipline in the faith, by not extending the right hand of fellowship to them not keeping the commandments of God, as well as teaching false doctrine:

If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

If I believed the Lord's Sabbath (not the pseudo exception-ridden modern one), were indeed commanded to the body of Christ, then I would not keep company with any such profaner of the sabbath, for which the soul would be cut off from Christ, even as in the law of Moses was cut off from Israel.

Nor would I even allow into my house anyone preaching otherwise.

And so, you prove your commandment is not a real commandment of the Lord, by not obeying Scripture and still keeping company with them that willfully profane the sabbath.
I'd like to visit your planet someday. Hypocritia, isn't it?

Perhaps we should call fire down from heaven upon those who do not have the light on the Sabbath. On second thought, we better not. Jesus made it pretty plain of what spirit that is.


I'm supposed to heel and answer your opaque, dictatory questions while you ignore my plain refutations of your pompous ravings.

You are well-prepared to participate in the coming persecution of those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. I pray you are spared that ill fate.

And you are free to continue reading hearts you know not and arguing with yourself.


I tire.
 

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There is no choice in having an inner man. There is a choice to speak of the inner man or not.

The carnal minded do not do so.

Until now, neither did sabbath commanders, because their sabbath had nothing to do with the inner man, and everything to do with the outer man only, which is self evident by never speaking of the Spirit nor the inner man in worship.
Oh Robert, you are stuck on rail. Have you lost the ability to think laterally considering the various replies received?
 

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I'd like to visit your planet someday. Hypocritia, isn't it?

Perhaps we should call fire down from heaven upon those who do not have the light on the Sabbath. On second thought, we better not. Jesus made it pretty plain of what spirit that is.


I'm supposed to heel and answer your opaque, dictatory questions while you ignore my plain refutations of your pompous ravings.

You are well-prepared to participate in the coming persecution of those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. I pray you are spared that ill fate.

And you are free to continue reading hearts you know not and arguing with yourself.


I tire.
And so, it is confirmed sabbath commanders have never even spoken of the inner man and worship of Spirit, until this thread.

Last I heard, you were going to make a search for them. Keep it up, because I wouldn't be surprised if you find at least one or two out of thousands.

The only time I know of, is when I rebuked a commanded physical day of worship, as being carnally contrary to daily worshipping God in the Spirit.

And, your evasion of answering direct questions, making claims you cannot prove, as well as ignoring Scriptural reproof, shows why sabbath commanders have had no teaching for the inner man.

For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
 
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And so, it is confirmed sabbath commanders have never even spoken of the inner man and worship of Spirit, until this thread.
Like Barney, I'm still wondering who these Sabbath commanders are? Like Barney, I am simply one to point out some relevant scriptural truths, which you are quite free to ignore, debate, refute, or even study for yourself, as your mind leads you. Which is precisely why I call myself brakelite. Travelling along the spiritual highway to wherever, I can only shine a 'brake' lite in front of other travelers as a warning of hazards, detours, sharp corners, road-blocks, sink-holes, radar cameras, traffic controls, etc ahead. What you do with that warning is entirely your prerogative, seeing you are clearly willing to accept whatever consequences to your own decisions. You have stated you no longer debate concerning the Sabbath itself. In other words, you have shut yourself off from seeing any further light on the subject. That also is your decision. Just one thing I will add, relevant to your "Sabbath commander" epithet. The Sabbath is the Lord's day. It always has been, and even in the new earth, will continue to be. It isn't anyone else's to command. It's God's commandment. You claim it doesn't apply to you. I truly hope you have some good sound honest Biblical reasons for making that decision. By the way. Do you, by your example and teaching 'command' other Christians to abstain from obeying the 4th commandment? You know what the angels in heaven think of people who not only disobey God's commamdments, but teach others to do the same right? You see, the Sabbath was holy from the second week after creation, and every 7th day since then, for 6000 years, it has remained so. It seems you have decided, and forgive me if I'm wrong, that such a holy day only interests you in as much as you may use it as a weapon to disparage those who recognise it as such. I see this tunnel vision of yours as most unchristlike but predictable, and I will let you in on a little not so well kept secret, that for 160 years the Seventh Day Adventist church has been saying this precise attitude of bigotry would be levelled at Sabbath keepers at the time of the end. Welcome to the world of fulfilled prophecy.
 
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I just did a little searching and found out that Mr. @robert derrick has started no less than -5- of these Deluxe Sabbath-keeper-trolling threads in the last 10 days. We've been punk'd!! (and none of your contemptuous, magniloquent gasconade is "confirmed")

Bye, now!!

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One of the most popular of Ellen White's books, reprinted countless times, translated into over 70 languages, and distributed to millions, is a small book called "Steps to Christ". It is a detailed explanation of the gospel and how one may be saved. Clearly, the writer of the original post on this forum has little idea of what Seventh Day Adventists actually believe, nor how they think. He, and quite possibly few others, despises Ellen White, and have dismissed her out of hand without any personal investigation or even reading of any of her books and articles. In any other paradigm other than Adventism, she would be regarded as a miracle. With only 3 years education she is the most translated female author of non-fiction in literature. How is that done without the Spirit of God? Anyway, I suggest you read "Steps to Christ". Fault it if you can. You won't even find one mention of the Sabbath.
Here's a few randomly selected quotes from that book...
It was to redeem us that Jesus lived and suffered and died. He became “a Man of Sorrows,” that we might be made partakers of everlasting joy. God permitted His beloved Son, full of grace and truth, to come from a world of indescribable glory, to a world marred and blighted with sin, darkened with the shadow of death and the curse. He permitted Him to leave the bosom of His love, the adoration of the angels, to suffer shame, insult, humiliation, hatred, and death. “The chastisement of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed.” Isaiah 53:5. Behold Him in the wilderness, in Gethsemane, upon the cross! The spotless Son of God took upon Himself the burden of sin. He who had been one with God, felt in His soul the awful separation that sin makes between God and man. This wrung from His lips the anguished cry, “My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?” Matthew 27:46. It was the burden of sin, the sense of its terrible enormity, of its separation of the soul from God—it was this that broke the heart of the Son of God.

It is impossible for us, of ourselves, to escape from the pit of sin in which we are sunken. Our hearts are evil, and we cannot change them. “Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one.” “The carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.” Job 14:4; Romans 8:7. Education, culture, the exercise of the will, human effort, all have their proper sphere, but here they are powerless. They may produce an outward correctness of behavior, but they cannot change the heart; they cannot purify the springs of life. There must be a power working from within, a new life from above, before men can be changed from sin to holiness. That power is Christ. His grace alone can quicken the lifeless faculties of the soul, and attract it to God, to holiness.

Christ is the source of every right impulse. He is the only one that can implant in the heart enmity against sin. Every desire for truth and purity, every conviction of our own sinfulness, is an evidence that His Spirit is moving upon our hearts.

The warfare against self is the greatest battle that was ever fought. The yielding of self, surrendering all to the will of God, requires a struggle; but the soul must submit to God before it can be renewed in holiness.

It is peace that you need—Heaven's forgiveness and peace and love in the soul. Money cannot buy it, intellect cannot procure it, wisdom cannot attain to it; you can never hope, by your own efforts, to secure it. But God offers it to you as a gift, “without money and without price.” Isaiah 55:1. It is yours if you will but reach out your hand and grasp it. The Lord says, “Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.” Isaiah 1:18. “A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you.” Ezekiel 36:26.

A person may not be able to tell the exact time or place, or trace all the chain of circumstances in the process of conversion; but this does not prove him to be unconverted. Christ said to Nicodemus, “The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is everyone that is born of the Spirit.” John 3:8. Like the wind, which is invisible, yet the effects of which are plainly seen and felt, is the Spirit of God in its work upon the human heart. That regenerating power, which no human eye can see, begets a new life in the soul; it creates a new being in the image of God. While the work of the Spirit is silent and imperceptible, its effects are manifest. If the heart has been renewed by the Spirit of God, the life will bear witness to the fact. While we cannot do anything to change our hearts or to bring ourselves into harmony with God; while we must not trust at all to ourselves or our good works, our lives will reveal whether the grace of God is dwelling within us. A change will be seen in the character, the habits, the pursuits. The contrast will be clear and decided between what they have been and what they are. The character is revealed, not by occasional good deeds and occasional misdeeds, but by the tendency of the habitual words and acts.

Do you ask, “How am I to abide in Christ?” In the same way as you received Him at first. “As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in Him.” “The just shall live by faith.” Colossians 2:6; Hebrews 10:38. You gave yourself to God, to be His wholly, to serve and obey Him, and you took Christ as your Saviour. You could not yourself atone for your sins or change your heart; but having given yourself to God, you believe that He for Christ's sake did all this for you. By faith you became Christ's, and by faith you are to grow up in Him—by giving and taking. You are to give all,—your heart, your will, your service,—give yourself to Him to obey all His requirements; and you must take all,—Christ, the fullness of all blessing, to abide in your heart, to be your strength, your righteousness, your everlasting helper,—to give you power to obey.

Love to Jesus will be manifested in a desire to work as He worked for the blessing and uplifting of humanity. It will lead to love, tenderness, and sympathy toward all the creatures of our heavenly Father's care.
The Saviour's life on earth was not a life of ease and devotion to Himself, but He toiled with persistent, earnest, untiring effort for the salvation of lost mankind. From the manger to Calvary He followed the path of self-denial and sought not to be released from arduous tasks, painful travels and exhausting care and labor. He said, “The Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give His life a ransom for many.” Matthew 20:28. This was the one great object of His life. Everything else was secondary and subservient. It was His meat and drink to do the will of God and to finish His work. Self and self-interest had no part in His labor.

Prayer is the opening of the heart to God as to a friend. Not that it is necessary in order to make known to God what we are, but in order to enable us to receive Him. Prayer does not bring God down to us, but brings us up to Him.

If we do represent Christ, we shall make His service appear attractive, as it really is. Christians who gather up gloom and sadness to their souls, and murmur and complain, are giving to others a false representation of God and the Christian life. They give the impression that God is not pleased to have His children happy, and in this they bear false witness against our heavenly Father.

We cannot but look forward to new perplexities in the coming conflict, but we may look on what is past as well as on what is to come, and say, “Hitherto hath the Lord helped us.” “As thy days, so shall thy strength be.” Deuteronomy 33:25. The trial will not exceed the strength that shall be given us to bear it. Then let us take up our work just where we find it, believing that whatever may come, strength proportionate to the trial will be given.
And by and by the gates of heaven will be thrown open to admit God's children, and from the lips of the King of glory the benediction will fall on their ears like richest music, “Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.” Matthew 25:34
 
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You have stated you no longer debate concerning the Sabbath itself. In other words, you have shut yourself off from seeing any further light on the subject.
I no longer bother arguing with you people, even as I no longer bother arguing with those preaching a created christ. I've seen enough of your light to know it is utterly false, and I have wearied of correcting all the myriad ways you corrupt Scripture to shine it.

You keep and command a sabbath of your own, not even that of the Lord.

The Pharisees of old would rise up to condemn your modern playtime sabbath.

The Sabbath is the Lord's day. It always has been, and even in the new earth, will continue to be. It isn't anyone else's to command. It's God's commandment.

Your sabbath is not the Lord's.

If I were to keep a Sabbath unto the Lord, I would keep His, not yours.

In Ezekiel, we see the Lord's Sabbath will once again be commanded to the natural seed of Abraham, in the land promised to Abraham from Euphrates to the Red Sea.

There will be no sabbath nor days and nights in the New Jerusalem, where God and the Lamb are the light thereof.

Do you, by your example and teaching 'command' other Christians to abstain from obeying the 4th commandment?

Right. I also 'command' others not to have their children circumcised.

You know what the angels in heaven think of people who not only disobey God's commamdments, but teach others to do the same right?

Neither your sabbath, nor your angels judging by your sabbath, are the Lord's nor mine.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

It seems you have decided, and forgive me if I'm wrong, that such a holy day only interests you in as much as you may use it as a weapon to disparage those who recognise it as such.

The weapons of disparagement have been your own, in showing that your sabbath is bogus, and not the Lord's at all.

Stop commanding your carnal pseudo-sabbath, and begin preaching the Lord's rest from our own works today, and you'll do just fine.

and I will let you in on a little not so well kept secret, that for 160 years the Seventh Day Adventist church has been saying this precise attitude of bigotry would be levelled at Sabbath keepers at the time of the end.

And the homosexuals have begun calling rejection of homosexuality, bigotry.

I am a bigot against all sinning and false doctrine of man.

Welcome to the world of fulfilled prophecy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears.

The time of the end has been going on since the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The only thing new about your commanded sabbath, is that those commanding one of old probably didn't keep it with built in exceptions for working on their sabbath. Other than that, it's the same old, same old:

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days.

that such a holy day only interests you

I utterly reject your self-made holyday, along with your judgment by it.

Now, if you were to drop commanding your bogus sabbath, and suggest a holiday of physical rest for Christian fellowship, then I would be glad to join in.
 

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I no longer bother arguing with you people, even as I no longer bother arguing with those preaching a created christ. I've seen enough of your light to know it is utterly false, and I have wearied of correcting all the myriad ways you corrupt Scripture to shine it.

You keep and command a sabbath of your own, not even that of the Lord.

The Pharisees of old would rise up to condemn your modern playtime sabbath.



Your sabbath is not the Lord's.

If I were to keep a Sabbath unto the Lord, I would keep His, not yours.

In Ezekiel, we see the Lord's Sabbath will once again be commanded to the natural seed of Abraham, in the land promised to Abraham from Euphrates to the Red Sea.

There will be no sabbath nor days and nights in the New Jerusalem, where God and the Lamb are the light thereof.



Right. I also 'command' others not to have their children circumcised.



Neither your sabbath, nor your angels judging by your sabbath, are the Lord's nor mine.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.



The weapons of disparagement have been your own, in showing that your sabbath is bogus, and not the Lord's at all.

Stop commanding your carnal pseudo-sabbath, and begin preaching the Lord's rest from our own works today, and you'll do just fine.



And the homosexuals have begun calling rejection of homosexuality, bigotry.

I am a bigot against all sinning and false doctrine of man.



For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears.

The time of the end has been going on since the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The only thing new about your commanded sabbath, is that those commanding one of old probably didn't keep it with built in exceptions for working on their sabbath. Other than that, it's the same old, same old:

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days.



I utterly reject your self-made holyday, along with your judgment by it.

Now, if you were to drop commanding your bogus sabbath, and suggest a holiday of physical rest for Christian fellowship, then I would be glad to join in.
I have no idea what you are talking about. It's like someone telling an Eskimo to stop growing tropical fruit. Your accusations and counsel is rubbish.
 
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Personal faith and practice is one thing. Doing so as by law, and commanding it to others is the error.
According to you, Paul was in error when he wrote Heb. 4:10 where he says "For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.". That certainly doesn't read like Paul suggesting that people observe the Sabbath.

On a side note, you're pretty much arguing that Moses, Nehemiah, or Jeremiah were in error when they told other people to observe the Sabbath as well.

When it comes to God's commandments, the only thing question to ask is whether you will obey it or ignore it, not whether or not it applies as an obligation. Would you argue that the speed limit signs and laws against driving drunk are just suggestions?
 

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Except that you do.Why create 5 threads in 10 days, otherwise?

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To rebuke, not to argue.

You people are the ones separating yourselves from me. I am not one of you. I do not keep your sabbath, much less keep it with you.

According to you, Paul was in error when he wrote Heb. 4:10 where he says "For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.". That certainly doesn't read like Paul suggesting that people observe the Sabbath.

On a side note, you're pretty much arguing that Moses, Nehemiah, or Jeremiah were in error when they told other people to observe the Sabbath as well.

When it comes to God's commandments, the only thing question to ask is whether you will obey it or ignore it, not whether or not it applies as an obligation. Would you argue that the speed limit signs and laws against driving drunk are just suggestions?

As I said, I don't argue with people who know nothing about the difference between OT law of Moses and NT law of Christ.

You want to keep a sabbath, go ahead, but the one you are keeping is corrupt with exceptions and indulgence pay offs.

There is also no Spirit of worship therein, which is why you people never speak of such things.

Just rebukes, no arguing.

This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith.
 

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To rebuke, not to argue.


Distinction without a difference


You people are the ones separating yourselves from me. I am not one of you. I do not keep your sabbath, much less keep it with you.


"You people.." The last cry of the persecutor


As I said, I don't argue with people who know nothing about the difference between OT law of Moses and NT law of Christ.


"They are they which testify of ME."



There is also no Spirit of worship therein


Still looking for some expression of worship in the Spirit (besides trumpeting) from the one accusing other brethren of having none...

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Still looking for some expression of worship in the Spirit (besides trumpeting) from the one accusing other brethren of having none...

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The thread is about the absence of the inner man spoken of by those commanding a carnal sabbath.

No examples have been given from the thousands of posts in the past.

1. There are those who teach it is acceptable to work on a sabbath day, if it is required as part of their career, such as in the military, police, or emergency response.

When they do so, their pay for that day goes to the offering plate.

Do you agree with this teaching, or not?

2. Are you calling me brother, or not?
 

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You people are the ones separating yourselves from me. I am not one of you.
You say that "we people" are separating ourselves from you (something we've never even hinted at) and, in the very next utterance, make a distinctly declarative statement of separating yourself from us!!!

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And then, from out of nowhere, comes this:

I do not keep your sabbath, much less keep it with you.


To what is this in reference or response, Robert?

Because it just sounds like more separation talk—calling the kettle black, Pot?



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You say that "we people" are separating ourselves from you (something we've never even hinted at) and, in the very next utterance, make a distinctly declarative statement of separating yourself from us!!!

¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿

And then, from out of nowhere, comes this:




To what is this in reference or response, Robert?


Because it just sounds like more separation talk—calling the kettle black, Pot?


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1. There are those who teach it is acceptable to work on a sabbath day, if it is required as part of their career, such as in the military, police, or emergency response.

When they do so, their pay for that day goes to the offering plate.

Do you agree with this teaching, or not?

2. Are you calling me brother, or not?